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Post by linearblade on Dec 10, 2019 4:14:54 GMT -5
Pixonic looked at test server data, and said. Uh 「whiskey tango foxtrot」
Knows; The current meta bots are overpowered (see that pixonic video floating around harping about selling power) Knows robots without god button cannot compete. At all (stealth, purple shield, leech tether, etc) Fury firepower or greater + god button breaks stuff. Titan without fury strength or higher would be a joke Titan with fury power and god button would probably be equally bad for meta and legacy bots. Possibly worse for meta since they donât have health bars.
Decides: Letâs just release under powered titans live and see what happens. See if we can get good metrics to balance them later. Charge a ton of money, since titans will inevitably be buffed. Gamble now on future prospects of the bot / gear you buy (it will be buffed, question is how much)
In other words: pulling 「dookied」 out of their 「bum-bum」 like a monkey throwing poo
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 10, 2019 6:32:28 GMT -5
Pixonic looked at test server data, and said. Uh ?whiskey tango foxtrot? Knows; The current meta bots are overpowered (see that pixonic video floating around harping about selling power) Knows robots without god button cannot compete. At all (stealth, purple shield, leech tether, etc) Fury firepower or greater + god button breaks stuff. Titan without fury strength or higher would be a joke Titan with fury power and god button would probably be equally bad for meta and legacy bots. Possibly worse for meta since they donâ??t have health bars. Decides: Letâ??s just release under powered titans live and see what happens. See if we can get good metrics to balance them later. Charge a ton of money, since titans will inevitably be buffed. Gamble now on future prospects of the bot / gear you buy (it will be buffed, question is how much) In other words: pulling ?dookied? out of their ?bum-bum? like a monkey throwing poo Yup, it’s a been a real problem since they jumped from power creep to CheatBots w. Godmode. Now, unless they roll back the Cheats, I don’t think this game can be fun again. How do you power creep Godmode? Double Godmode? New Godmode that ONLY penetrates old Godmode?
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Post by milty72 on Dec 10, 2019 6:37:14 GMT -5
It's only unplayable when there is an abundance of god bots. Three or four and it's ok.
Problem is Champions League is from what I understand overflowing with them.
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Post by linearblade on Dec 10, 2019 7:16:42 GMT -5
It's only unplayable when there is an abundance of god bots. Three or four and it's ok. Problem is Champions League is from what I understand overflowing with them. Yes, the real titans should be the god bots. Would be a much better fix. Problem is nobody wants to play with slower bots. That’s easy to fix by making the min speed 50, Then you can put whatever you want into the god bot slot, and power creep be mostly damned
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Post by linearblade on Dec 10, 2019 7:18:35 GMT -5
Pixonic looked at test server data, and said. Uh ?whiskey tango foxtrot? Knows; The current meta bots are overpowered (see that pixonic video floating around harping about selling power) Knows robots without god button cannot compete. At all (stealth, purple shield, leech tether, etc) Fury firepower or greater + god button breaks stuff. Titan without fury strength or higher would be a joke Titan with fury power and god button would probably be equally bad for meta and legacy bots. Possibly worse for meta since they donâ??t have health bars. Decides: Letâ??s just release under powered titans live and see what happens. See if we can get good metrics to balance them later. Charge a ton of money, since titans will inevitably be buffed. Gamble now on future prospects of the bot / gear you buy (it will be buffed, question is how much) In other words: pulling ?dookied? out of their ?bum-bum? like a monkey throwing poo Yup, it’s a been a real problem since they jumped from power creep to CheatBots w. Godmode. Now, unless they roll back the Cheats, I don’t think this game can be fun again. How do you power creep Godmode? Double Godmode? New Godmode that ONLY penetrates old Godmode? Well, I’m sort of surprised they don’t do what typical older video games do, and give titans immunity to most status effects and ignores shields etc. Of course, then we’d all love titans and spawn them ASAP to murder the god bots and then players would cry foul because the cheat bot they are knowingly running dies too fast
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Post by integeritis on Dec 10, 2019 7:56:19 GMT -5
It's only unplayable when there is an abundance of god bots. Three or four and it's ok. Problem is Champions League is from what I understand overflowing with them. Yes, the real titans should be the god bots. Would be a much better fix. Problem is nobody wants to play with slower bots. That’s easy to fix by making the min speed 50, Then you can put whatever you want into the god bot slot, and power creep be mostly damned Maybe that is what they want after a huge rebalance and economy change. The suggestion of limiting 1 bot of a kind / hangar comes up as a suggestion regularly. Valid counter argument is always that don’t punish the weak hangars that has repeats of weak bots. Making Titans OP while balancing back the rest to fit in line could make this request a reality without drawbacks. I’d like to see them moving away from restricting silver and gold to restricting gold and platinum income. The upgrade cost of a Titan curiously fits in the ballpark of a whole hangar, from what I understood reading some posts about the topic.
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Post by linearblade on Dec 10, 2019 8:17:18 GMT -5
Yes, the real titans should be the god bots. Would be a much better fix. Problem is nobody wants to play with slower bots. That’s easy to fix by making the min speed 50, Then you can put whatever you want into the god bot slot, and power creep be mostly damned Maybe that is what they want after a huge rebalance and economy change. The suggestion of limiting 1 bot of a kind / hangar comes up as a suggestion regularly. Valid counter argument is always that don’t punish the weak hangars that has repeats of weak bots. Making Titans OP while balancing back the rest to fit in line could make this request a reality without drawbacks. I’d like to see them moving away from restricting silver and gold to restricting gold and platinum income. The upgrade cost of a Titan curiously fits in the ballpark of a whole hangar, from what I understood reading some posts about the topic. I think only 1 type of bot needs to be limited to one slot. It’s meaningless theory crafting anyhow. Pixonic doesn’t care about competition anyhow
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 9:10:06 GMT -5
If the U.S. military has a mission requiring 5 military units to deploy, and if it suits a positive mission outcome, then seeing 6 M1A1 tanks, or 6 F-22 Raptors would be just dandy.
I get complaining about dummies spending to have a 5 Ares/Ao Jun/Leech/Phantom hangar, but that person has the right to do so.....for those of us with more than half a brain and much smaller wallets, we just need to get gud.
Either that, or quit 「female dog」ing and buy some damn meta..........
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Post by shivaswrath on Dec 10, 2019 9:27:21 GMT -5
Technically Titans have God bot abilities.
Problem is will take a F2p years. And p2w $4500. They screwed themselves.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 10, 2019 9:37:04 GMT -5
After seeing a video of maxed titans and weapons... I hope they DON'T buff them any. Once they are even close to Max it will take more than one high powered enemy to kill them... the Ao Ming for sure. Side note: I finally got to play a few games this weekend and over Monday (finally had some days off) and several times there were moments that all I saw were titans. It made me put my Kid in my currently played hangar. Playing it went better than I thought the few times I did it... but by the time I decided to I had completed this season's qualifying and wasn't facing all Champs anymore. Still saw Champs in the top 3 or 4 spots but not the Leech + Ares + Ao Jun fest that qualifying was.
Anyway, I am considering upgrading its parts (Core I believe, and weapons) that bypass DR... just for Leech and Phantom control. I don't care about saving hundreds of Pt to get an Arthur or AM, yet, since it takes so damned long to build up that currency... so why not?
Anyway the point of this was that at my level. M3 - M2, they aren't too weak even when first out of the box. I imagine that in lower leagues they are even more relevant. I think that once the highly leveled ones start appearing more and more up top (I know that some have already... but not like other new META that uses currency that many people already have hoarded) then it will be clear that they aren't that weak. It's an eternal grind for someone like me that plays so casually... but for others... I can see a month, or maybe 2, making the difference as far as the perception of how they will impact the game. Or not... lol. IMO, YMMV
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 9:51:28 GMT -5
I’m M2 iOS, and I eat Titans up....too ez
However I have not seen one in double digit level, yet
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Post by #1 worst pilot on Dec 10, 2019 10:03:48 GMT -5
How i imagine whales going into battle
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Post by Koko Bop on Dec 10, 2019 10:13:10 GMT -5
It's only unplayable when there is an abundance of god bots. Three or four and it's ok. Problem is Champions League is from what I understand overflowing with them. In E1 I’m still running into red teams with two or three Ao Jun in play *at any given moment* - the whole match. That’s not okay.
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Post by linearblade on Dec 10, 2019 10:19:24 GMT -5
Technically Titans have God bot abilities. Problem is will take a F2p years. And p2w $4500. They screwed themselves. I took out an Ao Ming level 100 today, with maxed guns. Wasn’t even close. Whatever it’s godliness is, it can’t kill a raijin with vipers and death mark. It’s smaller child the Ao Jun would have made short work of me tho
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 10:24:00 GMT -5
... Decides: Letâ??s just release under powered titans live and see what happens. See if we can get good metrics to balance them later. Charge a ton of money, since titans will inevitably be buffed. Gamble now on future prospects of the bot / gear you buy (it will be buffed, question is how much) In other words: pulling ?dookied? out of their ?bum-bum? like a monkey throwing poo I think that's reasonable conclusion, they are throwing crap to see how much of it sticks. Since we are not seeing trusted revenue numbers I agree with something @balasus wrote in another thread, that we will see how it's going by upcoming operations. If they decide to be generous again we'll know it's not going too well for them.
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Post by cheap on Dec 10, 2019 10:37:40 GMT -5
Raven with Aidrian Pilot, DeathMark, Booster, (2) lvl1 Thermonuclear Reactor's will Take out a high lvl Ao Ming quick. ran into 3 [Kor] pilots who droped their Titans (2)Arthurs an a Ao Ming after 1min an a Half and pretty much Solo'd the Ao Ming, halved the 1 Arthur, but died when the Ao Ming Pilot Droped his Mk2 Leech/Rona.
then i killed the [Kor] Leech and Arthur with my Rayker, Good Times, Good Times.
my Rayker "Charlotte" is just killing it these days.
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Post by linearblade on Dec 10, 2019 11:10:30 GMT -5
Raven with Aidrian Pilot, DeathMark, Booster, (2) lvl1 Thermonuclear Reactor's will Take out a high lvl Ao Ming quick. ran into 3 [Kor] pilots who droped their Titans (2)Arthurs an a Ao Ming after 1min an a Half and pretty much Solo'd the Ao Ming, halved the 1 Arthur, but died when the Ao Ming Pilot Droped his Mk2 Leech/Rona. then i killed the [Kor] Leech and Arthur with my Rayker, Good Times, Good Times. my Rayker "Charlotte" is just killing it these days. Yea. Ao Ming might be dangerous with dragoons , not sure. But I took apart a near maxed one today. It just sort of floated there didn’t even break shields. Harder to take a Leech with vipers than an Ao Ming. I’ve also taken 2 kids numerous times.
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Post by teraflx on Dec 10, 2019 11:17:57 GMT -5
How do you power creep Godmode? Double Godmode? New Godmode that ONLY penetrates old Godmode? LOL
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 11:21:12 GMT -5
Raven with Aidrian Pilot, DeathMark, Booster, (2) lvl1 Thermonuclear Reactor's will Take out a high lvl Ao Ming quick. ran into 3 [Kor] pilots who droped their Titans (2)Arthurs an a Ao Ming after 1min an a Half and pretty much Solo'd the Ao Ming, halved the 1 Arthur, but died when the Ao Ming Pilot Droped his Mk2 Leech/Rona. then i killed the [Kor] Leech and Arthur with my Rayker, Good Times, Good Times. my Rayker "Charlotte" is just killing it these days. Does your Rayker reside in a web?
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 10, 2019 11:21:55 GMT -5
Raven with Aidrian Pilot, DeathMark, Booster, (2) lvl1 Thermonuclear Reactor's will Take out a high lvl Ao Ming quick. ran into 3 [Kor] pilots who droped their Titans (2)Arthurs an a Ao Ming after 1min an a Half and pretty much Solo'd the Ao Ming, halved the 1 Arthur, but died when the Ao Ming Pilot Droped his Mk2 Leech/Rona. then i killed the [Kor] Leech and Arthur with my Rayker, Good Times, Good Times. my Rayker "Charlotte" is just killing it these days. Yea. Ao Ming might be dangerous with dragoons , not sure. But I took apart a near maxed one today. It just sort of floated there didn’t even break shields. Harder to take a Leech with vipers than an Ao Ming. I’ve also taken 2 kids numerous times. What was the load out for the ones you have encountered? Obv not the Dragoon variant... just curious if you have faced the max rockets yet?
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Post by linearblade on Dec 10, 2019 11:30:56 GMT -5
Yea. Ao Ming might be dangerous with dragoons , not sure. But I took apart a near maxed one today. It just sort of floated there didn’t even break shields. Harder to take a Leech with vipers than an Ao Ming. I’ve also taken 2 kids numerous times. What was the load out for the ones you have encountered? Obv not the Dragoon variant... just curious if you have faced the max rockets yet? Just machine guns.
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Post by linearblade on Dec 10, 2019 11:33:57 GMT -5
Yea. Ao Ming might be dangerous with dragoons , not sure. But I took apart a near maxed one today. It just sort of floated there didn’t even break shields. Harder to take a Leech with vipers than an Ao Ming. I’ve also taken 2 kids numerous times. What was the load out for the ones you have encountered? Obv not the Dragoon variant... just curious if you have faced the max rockets yet? I think titans are very powerful if accompanied by defenders If you’ve ever played star craft, you’ll remember that Thor’s or ultralisks etc on their own are weak, but when accompanied by little derived etc, they are devastating Problem is that in War Robots, zerglings do the most damage AND are the hardest to kill
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 11:39:25 GMT -5
All I know is I can drop Kids ez, took down 3 twice....and, a few days after promoting to M2, I’m closing in on M1. I am close to 1M damage per battle, which is just wrong for a L9 hangar, and I have moved my Titan to Hangar2 with the placeholders. As a PSA, this is a Titan killer..... Titans do not like being frozen, not even a little! lol
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 10, 2019 12:05:03 GMT -5
What was the load out for the ones you have encountered? Obv not the Dragoon variant... just curious if you have faced the max rockets yet? I think titans are very powerful if accompanied by defenders If youâve ever played star craft, youâll remember that Thorâs or ultralisks etc on their own are weak, but when accompanied by little derived etc, they are devastating Problem is that in War Robots, zerglings do the most damage AND are the hardest to kill Very good point.
Just to be clear, my first post is not claiming that they are not in need of either good teamplay or proper leveling to work well... frankly I hope that that IS the case as they should NOT be the end-all-be-all goal of the game. A well played normal mech should hold the edge, all things being equal, if the player is using that bot's strengths over the Titan's. For example... a Phantom that knows how to use the beacon and has weapons well suited for it should be fast enough, and tough enough, to outplay a Titan at the Phantom's ideal range in a cover filled environment. Provided the close range defense abilities of the Titan don't take it out... which goes back to using that damned Cheese Beacon ability like it was meant to be used.
Hell I took out at least two Kids with a med-high leveled Lance with Calamity and Scourge from 400-ish meters on one Castle game... so I know they are just big bullseyes if you aren't being careful.
All I was saying is that once all the extra defense and damage resistance mitigation that the max Titan updates give, are in play, they are not going to be as easy as they seem... AS LONG AS THEY ARE WELL PLAYED. For example... if that Dragoon version stays at the right range and uses his ground defense and healing properly, it'll be a 「female dog」 to kill. But if it just stays in the air all the time... it will die. On short maps this will be harder for them to do since so many bots are fast now and can get to supposedly safe places to land, easier... but I want it that way. Again, IMO, Titans should absolutely be able to be stopped by normal mechs... but a well played, maxed Titan left unchecked should absolutely be a threat. I just think that it'll take a bit before we see whether the playerbase can make that a thing.
Sorta wish I had a Battle Rec account for 「dookie」 like this... but that means being a youtuber... 「fluffernutter」 that noise.
IMO, YMMV
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Post by Wife is Pissed on Dec 10, 2019 12:11:49 GMT -5
I am horribly neglecting anything Titan related. It's always the very last bot I drop, and it's only if I use that hangar versus the other two. I'm pretty sure that damage inflicted by your own Titan doesn't generate silver either, so there is a strong disincentive for me to use it.
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Post by Koko Bop on Dec 10, 2019 12:34:58 GMT -5
I ether don’t drop it, and wait the game out - or I just don’t play. Mostly, I just don’t play now. Seems no point.
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Post by Wife is Pissed on Dec 10, 2019 12:39:42 GMT -5
I ether don’t drop it, and wait the game out - or I just don’t play. Mostly, I just don’t play now. Seems no point. I'm sorry you're to that point. Titans aside, I still find this game enjoyable.
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Post by raidenii on Dec 10, 2019 12:45:43 GMT -5
Just to state again as in other posts, I am dumping my Titan into the ravine or into the sea. OR, free shoot for the reds. No time for this BS slow "Titan" bot.
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Post by Koko Bop on Dec 10, 2019 12:53:39 GMT -5
I ether don’t drop it, and wait the game out - or I just don’t play. Mostly, I just don’t play now. Seems no point. I'm sorry you're to that point. Titans aside, I still find this game enjoyable. Me, too, honestly: the already brutal field action has been spun up a notch by those who’re trying to get their Kids on the field ASAP, so it’s a short furious game and then the Titans come out. I’m not really into that as a dominant game characteristic. Add the silver suppression to the split focus between the two forced game modes in each match (no Titan/Titan), and I get the annoyance of a spoiled game experience without any compensation. Yeah, I’m retired, but I ain’t got time for that. I’m not bailing quite yet, I have a ton or reasons to want to keep playing. I hope something will change. I hope next Op doesn’t suck as badly as whatever they called the last one. I think a Titan-free option is essential. Prove me wrong.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 10, 2019 12:54:45 GMT -5
All I know is I can drop Kids ez, took down 3 twice....and, a few days after promoting to M2, I’m closing in on M1. I am close to 1M damage per battle, which is just wrong for a L9 hangar, and I have moved my Titan to Hangar2 with the placeholders. As a PSA, this is a Titan killer..... Titans do not like being frozen, not even a little! lol Yup, my 2 classic Falcons have a field day with them. Glory/Glacier and 3Avenger...talons come out and Titan goes down.
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