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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Nov 9, 2019 16:52:23 GMT -5
If you are really close to 5000 league points, please lmk what Champions League league tier you are in.
If a few other want to chime in on the other Champions League levels, that works too. Just report your Champions League level and the starting Points for that level.
E.g. Legend League (Champions League 1) starts at 8661 points.
Who’s got the highest 5000 score page?
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Post by pewpewninja on Nov 9, 2019 17:18:31 GMT -5
Im at 7006 android tho not ios
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Post by orionpax on Nov 9, 2019 17:37:55 GMT -5
5700/12,357. Champ 32 iOS
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Post by mystic spastic on Nov 10, 2019 8:53:18 GMT -5
5036/Champs 110 Looks like I'm weening!
Oh, and this league is composed solely of 5035 and 5036 league point players.
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Post by zombiecyborg on Nov 10, 2019 9:09:21 GMT -5
5056 points, Champions League #100 all 100commanders between 5055 and 5058
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Post by wrampager1 on Nov 10, 2019 9:25:06 GMT -5
5501 tier 43
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Nov 10, 2019 10:02:12 GMT -5
5036/Champs 110 Looks like I'm weening!
Oh, and this league is composed solely of 5035 and 5036 league point players.
WOW, close race. Champions League number must climb fast as points approach 5000.
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Post by mechtout on Nov 10, 2019 10:11:16 GMT -5
Just dropped from Android Champions League 159 to Champions League 165. I had about 5200 cups, now 5188. Champions League 165 ranges from 5188 to 5191, only 3pts talk about log jam lol
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Post by hi5 on Nov 10, 2019 10:39:36 GMT -5
5527 / 12,658 the range here is 5512 - 5534
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Post by hizzie on Nov 10, 2019 15:55:34 GMT -5
As I sit this afternoon.
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Post by mystic spastic on Nov 10, 2019 19:07:53 GMT -5
5036/Champs 110 Looks like I'm weening!
Oh, and this league is composed solely of 5035 and 5036 league point players.
WOW, close race. Champions League number must climb fast as points approach 5000. I must be doing something wrong. Now down to 5030, but not as low as I was a few battles ago at 5022. Champion league 114, all 5030-5031 players. Win percentage has gone from 34% to 44% as well. I don't know how, as it seems like I'm losing more than I'm winning.
I think you had asked me to keep you apprised on how things worked out once I busted into Champs a couple months ago. It's been a constant back and forth between very high Masters I and Champs. I get knocked down to Masters and then just kick major 「bum-bum」 for about 10 games, then I'm back in Champs and slowly drop down again over the course of a week or so. I think this is my fourth time as a low Champ. The introduction of Phantoms and Leeches has really dropped my effectiveness. I went from just about 600K average damage, to 480k not that long ago. With my win percentage going up, I'm back to 540K per battle. I am jiggling weapons a little bit. Two Halos are coming off the Blitz and onto the Mender. My Blitz will then be a Spark Shredder. Not sure how well it will work, but a couple more meta light weapons nowadays isn't a problem.
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Post by aaronc on Nov 10, 2019 19:22:20 GMT -5
I'm on 4986. Masters 1. Was in champs previous two months at around 5100.
Now sitting on 5028. Champ league 119! Everyone is either 5028 or 5029
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Post by RightOn on Nov 11, 2019 12:43:59 GMT -5
Every reset the MM will be tougher. We're not even half way past reset.
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Post by shivaswrath on Nov 11, 2019 14:52:29 GMT -5
I'm 5400
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Post by [WÎČK] Cap’nAHAB on Nov 11, 2019 16:48:54 GMT -5
6207. Range is 6199-6246. Champs 22.
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Post by Racerx7394 on Nov 11, 2019 17:09:49 GMT -5
5,977. Champions League #28
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Nov 11, 2019 18:18:22 GMT -5
137 - 5001-13334, but all players are on 5000 or 5001. My champ life is so precarious! Hey linearblade, looks like around 14,000 iOS Champions League players, but it’s only the 11th if that matters. How many were in Champions League last time we checked, and what time of the month was it? No not THAT time of the month, lol.
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Post by linearblade on Nov 11, 2019 23:19:01 GMT -5
WOW, close race. Champions League number must climb fast as points approach 5000. I must be doing something wrong. Now down to 5030, but not as low as I was a few battles ago at 5022. Champion league 114, all 5030-5031 players. Win percentage has gone from 34% to 44% as well. I don't know how, as it seems like I'm losing more than I'm winning.
I think you had asked me to keep you apprised on how things worked out once I busted into Champs a couple months ago. It's been a constant back and forth between very high Masters I and Champs. I get knocked down to Masters and then just kick major ?bum-bum? for about 10 games, then I'm back in Champs and slowly drop down again over the course of a week or so. I think this is my fourth time as a low Champ. The introduction of Phantoms and Leeches has really dropped my effectiveness. I went from just about 600K average damage, to 480k not that long ago. With my win percentage going up, I'm back to 540K per battle. I am jiggling weapons a little bit. Two Halos are coming off the Blitz and onto the Mender. My Blitz will then be a Spark Shredder. Not sure how well it will work, but a couple more meta light weapons nowadays isn't a problem.
This is very normal. Contrary to accepted belief, there is both a gear barrier AND skill barrier to champ. It will change after a month or 2. Champ ladder is meaningful til 7-8k. At which point it becomes a drag race
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Post by linearblade on Nov 11, 2019 23:20:24 GMT -5
137 - 5001-13334, but all players are on 5000 or 5001. My champ life is so precarious! Hey linearblade, looks like around 14,000 iOS Champions League players, but it’s only the 11th if that matters. How many were in Champions League last time we checked, and what time of the month was it? No not THAT time of the month, lol. Yea that’s about right. We are far along enough into the season to seethe bottom. 14k players is about what I would expect. I think that’s what we counted last time right? We should be tracking this monthly
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Post by linearblade on Nov 11, 2019 23:22:26 GMT -5
Champ 7: 7564
18 days in season
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Nov 12, 2019 7:22:03 GMT -5
Hey linearblade , looks like around 14,000 iOS Champions League players, but it’s only the 11th if that matters. How many were in Champions League last time we checked, and what time of the month was it? No not THAT time of the month, lol. Yea that’s about right. We are far along enough into the season to seethe bottom. 14k players is about what I would expect. I think that’s what we counted last time right? We should be tracking this monthly Interesting that I’m seeing so many more legitimate Masters League and occasional EL players on both sides this month. I also seems like I’m seeing a lot more Masters League/Champions League fringe tankers, but I have no supporting data and not that interested to bother getting any, lol. I can’t remember what the count was last time. In any case no way they have 800k active users or whatever they are claiming.
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Post by linearblade on Nov 12, 2019 10:02:38 GMT -5
Yea that’s about right. We are far along enough into the season to seethe bottom. 14k players is about what I would expect. I think that’s what we counted last time right? We should be tracking this monthly Interesting that I’m seeing so many more legitimate Masters League and occasional EL players on both sides this month. I also seems like I’m seeing a lot more Masters League/Champions League fringe tankers, but I have no supporting data and not that interested to bother getting any, lol. I can’t remember what the count was last time. In any case no way they have 800k active users or whatever they are claiming. Yes. Not a chance. 800k active if we say number of unique logins this year? Yea maybe that. Active subscribers at any given time within a 1 month period? Clearly much much less
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Post by RightOn on Nov 12, 2019 19:13:10 GMT -5
This is for Android, I've been floating between M1 and C, group 316@5003
The problem is, I get penalized for being #1 and get grouped with 7000+ mk2
Then when we still pull a win, I'll get -22 just for winning with tactic alone
But it's so easy to gain back points I really don't know. Anyway, the system is dumb.
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Post by T34 on Nov 13, 2019 0:51:23 GMT -5
Interesting that I’m seeing so many more legitimate Masters League and occasional EL players on both sides this month. I also seems like I’m seeing a lot more Masters League/Champions League fringe tankers, but I have no supporting data and not that interested to bother getting any, lol. I can’t remember what the count was last time. In any case no way they have 800k active users or whatever they are claiming. Yes. Not a chance. 800k active if we say number of unique logins this year? Yea maybe that. Active subscribers at any given time within a 1 month period? Clearly much much less Their best claim in this respect in relation to Champions League, i reckon is as follows: “One thing we’re exceptionally proud of is that 350,000 of our MAUs are the players who have been with us for more than two years. Thanks to good long-time retention metrics and constant work of our marketing team, our core audience is still growing.” ( note: it excludes MAUs under 2 years with Pix) While these 350K are across all platforms, most of these guys are probably in Champions League. Bit less than half on iOS. Steamcharts independently backs up the “growing” related statement if figures from January 19 onward are considered.
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Post by linearblade on Nov 13, 2019 1:45:43 GMT -5
Yes. Not a chance. 800k active if we say number of unique logins this year? Yea maybe that. Active subscribers at any given time within a 1 month period? Clearly much much less Their best claim in this respect in relation to Champions League, i reckon is as follows: “One thing we’re exceptionally proud of is that 350,000 of our MAUs are the players who have been with us for more than two years. Thanks to good long-time retention metrics and constant work of our marketing team, our core audience is still growing.” ( note: it excludes MAUs under 2 years with Pix) While these 350K are across all platforms, most of these guys are probably in Champions League. Bit less than half on iOS. Steamcharts independently backs up the “growing” related statement if figures from January 19 onward are considered. 350k is impossible given the champ league ranges. MAX 20k champ , per platform and certainly less than 1k once you hit 8k. I’m very confident there are at least 30k champs. Probably more towards 50k but not a cold day in hells chance of 350k. Re: steam charts... it was high for a while then flat line, then low. I have concerns with that data. I suspect it can be gamed easily. And the flat line was oddly specific to war robots only. One thing I DO agree with, is their retention rate. It IS high. And that tracks with what I saw when recording games. Most champ and even masters pilots had around 5k victories (even masters in this range, wow) . It was very very high
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Post by RightOn on Nov 13, 2019 6:18:08 GMT -5
Well if there is 100 in a group and there's at least 300 groups (for Android) it's around 30-35k
Keep in mind these are players that logged in this month and did the 5 games at least. Maybe they don't even play much.
You'll have significantly more in masters and experts... So 350k active veteran players sounds reasonable for 2 ecosystems all told.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Nov 13, 2019 7:12:35 GMT -5
Well if there is 100 in a group and there's at least 300 groups (for Android) it's around 30-35k Keep in mind these are players that logged in this month and did the 5 games at least. Maybe they don't even play much. You'll have significantly more in masters and experts... So 350k active veteran players sounds reasonable for 2 ecosystems all told. Based solely on the anecdotal evidence of player diversity in my matches, iOS seems to be in a pretty rapid decline. At least wrt to Champions League player activity levels. OR, MM has changed a lot, matching lower and lower league players in my matches. And not just on my side, but on both sides I’m seeing more mid-tier Masters League players and the occasional EL player. 2 months ago, it was rare that I would see more than a couple legitimate Masters League players.
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Post by RightOn on Nov 13, 2019 7:18:10 GMT -5
Well if there is 100 in a group and there's at least 300 groups (for Android) it's around 30-35k Keep in mind these are players that logged in this month and did the 5 games at least. Maybe they don't even play much. You'll have significantly more in masters and experts... So 350k active veteran players sounds reasonable for 2 ecosystems all told. Based solely on the anecdotal evidence of player diversity in my matches, iOS seems to be in a pretty rapid decline. At least wrt to Champions League player activity levels. OR, MM has changed a lot, matching lower and lower league players in my matches. And not just on my side, but on both sides Iâm seeing more mid-tier Masters League players and the occasional EL player. 2 months ago, it was rare that I would see more than a couple legitimate Masters League players. Well the gear release is a natural pathway to sliding old players behind and whales forward. That's why I insist on understanding how simple the economy is in this game (my chart). You can still take new equipment that's underleveled and utterly demolish mk2 legacy, and vice versa. But certain things like Last Stand just screw it all up. Compound that with -50-70% numerical advantages (besides speed, cover, and tactics...) And yeah... And that's the other thing. Somebody has to be the plankton. It makes 「fluffernutter」 all sense but you'll get that odd clan vs rando blowout and it just sucks the moment right out. Yeah, you stop spawning and move on, or take a couple swings, but it's not the player's fault for MM, it's the player's fault for being a pawn.
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Post by T34 on Nov 13, 2019 20:29:04 GMT -5
Their best claim in this respect in relation to Champions League, i reckon is as follows: “One thing we’re exceptionally proud of is that 350,000 of our MAUs are the players who have been with us for more than two years. Thanks to good long-time retention metrics and constant work of our marketing team, our core audience is still growing.” ( note: it excludes MAUs under 2 years with Pix) While these 350K are across all platforms, most of these guys are probably in Champions League. Bit less than half on iOS. Steamcharts independently backs up the “growing” related statement if figures from January 19 onward are considered. 350k is impossible given the champ league ranges. MAX 20k champ , per platform and certainly less than 1k once you hit 8k. I’m very confident there are at least 30k champs. Probably more towards 50k but not a cold day in hells chance of 350k. Re: steam charts... it was high for a while then flat line, then low. I have concerns with that data. I suspect it can be gamed easily. And the flat line was oddly specific to war robots only. One thing I DO agree with, is their retention rate. It IS high. And that tracks with what I saw when recording games. Most champ and even masters pilots had around 5k victories (even masters in this range, wow) . It was very very high Thats across all platforms tho which would make iOS about 140K. I’d say counting leagues and stuff in this game could be like counting tadpoles in a pond while they are frantically swimming around. Pix could have partitioned the leagues just like they do with lower leagues. Many moons ago during the time when clan rankings were based on activity, I’ve counted the number of clans in existence. There were a bit over 40K clans. About 20K were completely inactive. Cup scores sort of appeared to take the shape of a log curve. Playing with large numbers here, but say 20K active clans. Ignore 10K due to lack of activity and say we have 10K clans with all active players. This sort of attempts to cater for the people not in clans (lots down low in the leagues). 10Kx36 = 360K which more or less aligns with the 800K claimed figure. Pix has been rather consistent with their figures over the years.
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Post by linearblade on Nov 13, 2019 20:58:26 GMT -5
350k is impossible given the champ league ranges. MAX 20k champ , per platform and certainly less than 1k once you hit 8k. I’m very confident there are at least 30k champs. Probably more towards 50k but not a cold day in hells chance of 350k. Re: steam charts... it was high for a while then flat line, then low. I have concerns with that data. I suspect it can be gamed easily. And the flat line was oddly specific to war robots only. One thing I DO agree with, is their retention rate. It IS high. And that tracks with what I saw when recording games. Most champ and even masters pilots had around 5k victories (even masters in this range, wow) . It was very very high Thats across all platforms tho which would make iOS about 140K. I’d say counting leagues and stuff in this game could be like counting tadpoles in a pond while they are frantically swimming around. Pix could have partitioned the leagues just like they do with lower leagues. Many moons ago during the time when clan rankings were based on activity, I’ve counted the number of clans in existence. There were a bit over 40K clans. About 20K were completely inactive. Cup scores sort of appeared to take the shape of a log curve. Playing with large numbers here, but say 20K active clans. Ignore 10K due to lack of activity and say we have 10K clans with all active players. This sort of attempts to cater for the people not in clans (lots down low in the leagues). 10Kx36 = 360K which more or less aligns with the 800K claimed figure. Pix has been rather consistent with their figures over the years. Yea, but now that I think about it, I remember that we did napkin math in the Ao Jun event and that I was able to calculate the profit based upon the number of Ao juns acquired. And it jived with what I just calculated. Confirmation bias maybe. But it further jives with that video we just saw. About the spending patterns. I could see 140k active players in iOS. But there’s no more than 20k champs (and masters for that matter) per platform. And I think it’s pfetty clear the bulk of the money comes from the paying champ base.
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