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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2019 10:33:06 GMT -5
Spending incentive? Don't you mean lack of patience? In a world full of instant gratification that is all it takes for most and they know it.  Exactly. I don't even think monetization was the main goal, it might have came out as unintended consequence. I think their data showed people will not wait too long for a game, so bad game is better than long wait time. |
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Post by Loganspawn on Nov 13, 2019 10:36:57 GMT -5
From my gameplay experience, adding meta gear doesn't affect the win/lose ratio which is fixed, but does affect your leugue points, which are irrelevant in themselves (assuming you're on high Champs in any case). No need for meta gear. I'm going to make an experiment - I have a one year old meta account which I abandoned (Spectrain, Scourgasari etc.). I'll run it and see what happens with no meta gear. My guess - I'll have roughly the same leugue rating as my current account. Tell that to this guy he is top of the ladder in legends league. I looked at his stats a couple of days ago he was at 90% win ratio. Can you spell whale? Win rate means nothing as do most stats. I can stay in the very high 90's just by running Duo or playing FFA allot and also of course full squad. As soon as I go solo PIx matchmaker will beat me down like a noob and I can be at 60% in no time. My damage stats also swing wildly depending on game play mode and how or if I squad I can go from around 2 million to 1 million in a day easy. Dont read into stats they are kinda poo poo. |
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Post by Phycoshot on Nov 13, 2019 10:42:23 GMT -5
So am I ripe for a beating if I just passed to 80% winrate mark?
Also I set my device to pop open a notification if I try to purchase anything saying "By purchasing this you are hereby agreeing to help a greedy corporation and kill a liter of kittens to receive 1's and 0's" Makes me think twice
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Nov 13, 2019 10:43:53 GMT -5
I think sometimes they set up the "spending incentive" for people like me. I am in Champs and I usually hover around 5500-6000 by the end of the month. I hold my own just fine but against the high ranked guys I get smashed and they want me to think "If only I had that Leech" but it doesn't work for me and I do not spend outside of the occasional 99 cent gold, killer deal on premium (only twice) and the first operation. Here is a perfect example and it was with you Rollo Tomasi and The VVatcher . My score of 1.2mil is decent along with 4 bots killed and 4 beacons capped but we still lost and I was still in a low enough spot on the losing team to get negative points. The silver payout was also garbage with no gold and 1 key. The top 2 on the other team were monsters and would wipe my bots out in a second. That will not make me want to spend money though but rather just the opposite. Good game to both of you guys, it was a fun match! I will continue to be a mostly free player and do what I can and enjoy the game for as long as I can.  Yup, just the opposite is my response as well. It was a good game, but Viper and Joebot are equipped beasts. And VVatcher is a beast as well - 1.7MM and 5th, crazy. |
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Post by teraflx on Nov 13, 2019 10:54:17 GMT -5
Yup, just the opposite is my response as well. It was a good game, but Viper and Joebot are equipped beasts. And VVatcher is a beast as well - 1.7MM and 5th, crazy. It was quite the battle for sure! If Pix thinks pairing me up against MK2 Lv12 Leeches with maxed weapons that eat a level 9 Fenrir in DR mode in seconds and putting me in 4th place on the losing team with about $120,000 silver payout will get me to spend real money then they are nuts! But then they give me rounds like this which keep me around and it was a fair one too, paired up against equal level players so I hang around.  |
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Post by Phycoshot on Nov 13, 2019 11:01:43 GMT -5
Yup, just the opposite is my response as well. It was a good game, but Viper and Joebot are equipped beasts. And VVatcher is a beast as well - 1.7MM and 5th, crazy. It was quite the battle for sure! If Pix thinks pairing me up against MK2 Lv12 Leeches with maxed weapons that eat a level 9 Fenrir in DR mode in seconds and putting me in 4th place on the losing team with about $120,000 silver payout will get me to spend real money then they are nuts! But then they give me rounds like this which keep me around and it was a fair one too, paired up against equal level players so I hang around. Wait how did you get 45,405,405,405 silver from one battle! lol |
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Post by teraflx on Nov 13, 2019 11:38:12 GMT -5
Wait how did you get 45,405,405,405 silver from one battle! lol lol what?  |
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Post by Phycoshot on Nov 13, 2019 11:45:33 GMT -5
Wait how did you get 45,405,405,405 silver from one battle! lol lol what? You $120,000 worth of silver, which works out to about that much |
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Post by teraflx on Nov 13, 2019 12:08:43 GMT -5
lol what? You $120,000 worth of silver, which works out to about that much HAHA! I wish Pix was that generous, might be able to take 1 bot to MK2 LV12. |
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Post by Desc440 on Nov 13, 2019 12:23:55 GMT -5
In a world full of instant gratification that is all it takes for most and they know it. Exactly. I don't even think monetization was the main goal, it might have came out as unintended consequence. I think their data showed people will not wait too long for a game, so bad game is better than long wait time. I wish Pixo would allow us a bit of control there- like, be able to set a wait time limit that’s longer to allow for a greater chance of getting a fair match |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2019 13:16:29 GMT -5
Exactly. I don't even think monetization was the main goal, it might have came out as unintended consequence. I think their data showed people will not wait too long for a game, so bad game is better than long wait time. I wish Pixo would allow us a bit of control there- like, be able to set a wait time limit that’s longer to allow for a greater chance of getting a fair match Not bad idea, but Pixonic won't do it, especially on our platform steam, because that would further divide already small player group. I was really hoping they'd have cross- platform this year but we can see how that went - leech, operations and pretty much anything else was a higher priority. |
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Post by gh05t on Nov 13, 2019 22:07:48 GMT -5
How about giving them ideas for other revenue alternatives to incentivize them to work on player satisfaction, then? New skins are easy enough. Add a ridiculous amount of new paint schemes that players would spend money on. Can even have similar themes across bots/particular bots to make your team look cohesive. Extra variety without actually adding more complexity to the game should be a pure win for them, no? Personally I like the animal themed exclusive weapons. I spend trying to get those, though I would appreciate it if there were bots that could equip them with appropriately themed colors. The Doc's red, white, and blue unexpectedly don't match the freedom hussar or igniter. The Anarchy Rogatka seems the best for the medium cryo rockets.
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Post by runamok on Nov 14, 2019 2:32:32 GMT -5
Yeah. The only way to avoid that is by playing in squads constantly. Except most of my clan mates are not that good. My experience if I squad I just ended up facing full death squad more. Itâ??s almost like Pix discourage squad play and push for ?dookie?ty experience in solo... what kind of ?fluffernutter? up company is that. Which is the way Pix wants it. The game was overhauled to cater for the paying player, the ones at the top of the tree. Pix likely doesn't give a crap about the minnows or dolphins, sure a little bit of extra cash generated from people who think spending a bit here and there will help them out, but mostly, the league system was redesigned to sell power. Then the solo players get into the game, feel like squadding will improve the experience, only to find out they're just there for target practice for the whales.
The whole league system needs a major rethink, but sadly, it's working the way Pix wants it to.
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Post by The VVatcher on Nov 17, 2019 22:31:48 GMT -5
I think sometimes they set up the "spending incentive" for people like me. I am in Champs and I usually hover around 5500-6000 by the end of the month. I hold my own just fine but against the high ranked guys I get smashed and they want me to think "If only I had that Leech" but it doesn't work for me and I do not spend outside of the occasional 99 cent gold, killer deal on premium (only twice) and the first operation. Here is a perfect example and it was with you Rollo Tomasi and The VVatcher . My score of 1.2mil is decent along with 4 bots killed and 4 beacons capped but we still lost and I was still in a low enough spot on the losing team to get negative points. The silver payout was also garbage with no gold and 1 key. The top 2 on the other team were monsters and would wipe my bots out in a second. That will not make me want to spend money though but rather just the opposite. Good game to both of you guys, it was a fun match! I will continue to be a mostly free player and do what I can and enjoy the game for as long as I can. Yup, just the opposite is my response as well. It was a good game, but Viper and Joebot are equipped beasts. And VVatcher is a beast as well - 1.7MM and 5th, crazy. Thanks Rollo. That’s been happening a lot lately. Sometimes I’d score 2nd highest overall and come out 5th. Phantom and Leech are too good at taking all the kills and beacons. I can’t compete with that. Btw I see you often enough that I neglect to give a shout out to our games. So here’s long overdue shoutout to our GGs! And great job for consistently scoring high and placing high with your particular line up |
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