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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Nov 9, 2019 9:37:15 GMT -5
Many players complain that MM is broken; I am in the minority opinion that it is working exactly the way Pix wants it to. I believe many games are predetermined as to which side will win and, in general, the entire system is designed to encourage spending. Whether it’s pushing heavy green crack use or telling me that I would have won that battle if I only had two Leeches and Phantom in my hanger. However, I fail to see how these kind of battles incentivize me to spend ANYTHING. No Leech, no Ares, no PS and no Phantom (yet), But I still finish top spot in solo 90% of the time, often by a wide margin. Spending won’t significantly change the win% or HP placement. Any idea what Pix is thinking on this?
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Post by mechtout on Nov 9, 2019 9:55:25 GMT -5
Pix: We gotta nerf his 「dookie」
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Post by awwarrobots on Nov 9, 2019 10:02:20 GMT -5
From my gameplay experience, adding meta gear doesn't affect the win/lose ratio which is fixed, but does affect your leugue points, which are irrelevant in themselves (assuming you're on high Champs in any case).
No need for meta gear.
I'm going to make an experiment - I have a one year old meta account which I abandoned (Spectrain, Scourgasari etc.). I'll run it and see what happens with no meta gear.
My guess - I'll have roughly the same leugue rating as my current account.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 10:16:22 GMT -5
What is Pix thinking about you?
That you suck balls, cheapskate!
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Post by Desc440 on Nov 9, 2019 10:17:52 GMT -5
MM is 「fluffernutter」ing me up the 「bum-bum」 something solid today. Went from 62% victories to 36. 「fluffernutter」 Pix and their manipulative bull「dookie」.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 10:35:08 GMT -5
MM is ?fluffernutter?ing me up the ?bum-bum? something solid today. Went from 62% victories to 36. ?fluffernutter? Pix and their manipulative bull?dookie?. 62% is the red alert light of beat down time..... After playing, paying and upgrading for a year and a half, I’m still a 50%er..... Hard to believe, right?
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Post by Desc440 on Nov 9, 2019 10:42:32 GMT -5
MM is ?fluffernutter?ing me up the ?bum-bum? something solid today. Went from 62% victories to 36. ?fluffernutter? Pix and their manipulative bull?dookie?. 62% is the red alert light of beat down time..... After playing, paying and upgrading for a year and a half, I’m still a 50%er..... Hard to believe, right? Yeah. The only way to avoid that is by playing in squads constantly.
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Post by zombiewolf907 on Nov 9, 2019 10:52:48 GMT -5
I am not a psychologist but perhaps part of it is just that you get tired of the crazy beat downs so you want some of the ability yourself. I do not have a Leech but do run a Phantom which is a blast. I find myself in the same circumstances as you mention. Win rate hangs around 50% and normally in the top 2 or 3. I do spend a small amounts on Au but have no ever spent on Ag or bots. Hate PCs and did note use them for a long time but do use them now against Leech when possible (phase shift.) There is just no way I would spend big $$$ on this or any game but I can understand why some do and I have no problem with it (except when I am steam rolled.) It comes down, I think, to what you want to spend your entertainment dollars on. My wife and I go out to dinner and a movie every Friday night and we spend about $60. Kind of crazy, I know, in this era of Netflix, Hulu, etc but we enjoy it. Some pay $5 a day on foo-foo coffee (I roast my own at home.) let’s not even begin to think how much one alcoholic drink costs at a bar. Bottom line is a person spends there entertainment $$$ on what they enjoy and as long as it doesn’t hurt others then that is what freedom is all about. The manipulative aspect of the game does bother me a bit but I also kind of get a kick out of it. Well enough pontificating - time to get back to a pre- determined 50% win rate game where I get to blow up some bots and have some fun while spend the occasional dollar or two.
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Post by BB on Nov 9, 2019 12:22:19 GMT -5
IMO- experienced diehards like us (>20K victories] that are NOT whale spenders and/or do NOT follow the pix script, but still play and kick ?bum-bum? OFTEN ENOUGH to influence match outcomes, get rewarded for our efforts by being personally selected by the MM to head up Team Noobcake for the majority of matches that we play.
We are considered non compliant anomalies and thus sacrificed to the almighty MISmatchmaker.
We are powerless, so acknowledge your role as a sacrificial script filler in this game and embrace it I say.
...end of transmission
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Post by mechtout on Nov 9, 2019 12:44:44 GMT -5
MM is ?fluffernutter?ing me up the ?bum-bum? something solid today. Went from 62% victories to 36. ?fluffernutter? Pix and their manipulative bull?dookie?. 62% is the red alert light of beat down time..... After playing, paying and upgrading for a year and a half, I’m still a 50%er..... Hard to believe, right? I feel it coming......
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Post by orionpax on Nov 9, 2019 16:18:12 GMT -5
IMO- experienced diehards like us (>20K victories] that are NOT whale spenders and/or do NOT follow the pix script, but still play and kick ?bum-bum? OFTEN ENOUGH to influence match outcomes, get rewarded for our efforts by being personally selected by the MM to head up Team Noobcake for the majority of matches that we play. We are considered non compliant anomalies and thus sacrificed to the almighty MISmatchmaker. We are powerless, so acknowledge your role as a sacrificial script filler in this game and embrace it I say. ...end of transmission . This 1000%. We get put on the weak team every time. I’ll post some pics of my earlier games as proof. Us scags against that one mk2 all green everything that does 3 million damage and kills 15 guys. 0 caps brut gets the win. I get 2 mill 10 kills and 9 caps #1 spot and a loss.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 16:22:17 GMT -5
IMO- experienced diehards like us (>20K victories] that are NOT whale spenders and/or do NOT follow the pix script, but still play and kick ?bum-bum? OFTEN ENOUGH to influence match outcomes, get rewarded for our efforts by being personally selected by the MM to head up Team Noobcake for the majority of matches that we play. We are considered non compliant anomalies and thus sacrificed to the almighty MISmatchmaker. We are powerless, so acknowledge your role as a sacrificial script filler in this game and embrace it I say. ...end of transmission . This 1000%. We get put on the weak team every time. I’ll post some pics of my earlier games as proof. Us scags against that one mk2 all green everything that does 3 million damage and kills 15 guys. 0 caps brut gets the win. I get 2 mill 10 kills and 9 caps #1 spot and a loss. Yes....half of the time.....
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Post by leecher123 on Nov 9, 2019 17:12:42 GMT -5
62% is the red alert light of beat down time..... After playing, paying and upgrading for a year and a half, Iâm still a 50%er..... Hard to believe, right? Yeah. The only way to avoid that is by playing in squads constantly. Except most of my clan mates are not that good. My experience if I squad I just ended up facing full death squad more. Itâs almost like Pix discourage squad play and push for 「dookie」ty experience in solo... what kind of 「fluffernutter」 up company is that.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Nov 9, 2019 17:51:24 GMT -5
No doubt works on a lot of people and gets them spending but not on me. Makes me want to spend even lesserer.
Ever since the frustrating days of the Lancelot, to the Spectre and to the Ares, I have never owned any of those bots but I would throw Pix a few bucks here and there if the game was not modeled the way it is. I am not their target market though it seems.
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Post by #1 worst pilot on Nov 9, 2019 18:09:13 GMT -5
I believe pix has it rigged. I thoroughly believe bots run on both teams at times (I mean ai). I've seen some dumb stuff. Bots on red shooting at walls, walking then stopping in the middle of nowhere. Odd builds, etc. Some sketchy stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 18:16:48 GMT -5
The funny thing is they don't 「fluffernutter」ing care about you. Or me or anyone else on this forum. That's where you made the mistake.
As long as it works for someone, some schmuck who buys this bloated crap, they will continue down this path.
Yea i see this too. After getting pounded in the back door repeatedly, they expect some to cave in and be the one doing the p;ounding. As guys like to pound, they will spend money for a good pounding. I get the offers and i just laugh and say 「fluffernutter」 you, nice try. But maybe that itsn't your kink.
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Post by milty72 on Nov 9, 2019 18:50:49 GMT -5
From my gameplay experience, adding meta gear doesn't affect the win/lose ratio which is fixed, but does affect your leugue points, which are irrelevant in themselves (assuming you're on high Champs in any case). No need for meta gear. I'm going to make an experiment - I have a one year old meta account which I abandoned (Spectrain, Scourgasari etc.). I'll run it and see what happens with no meta gear. My guess - I'll have roughly the same leugue rating as my current account. I've kinda started that experiment with my monthly hangar change out. I played a weaker hangar dropped one league place high masters down to mid masters and then stabilized as my hangar levelled up a little and I got better with those bots. Win rate hovers around 50%. Damage around 500,000. Bot kill around 2. Nothing really changed except for honour points because on average I couldn't keep up with my team. This month i started with newer bots( blitz, AG, Rayker)but low level L1 ish plus a Raijin and Golem and I'm starting to rise again slowly. I can feel how much better just those lower tier meta bots are. I don't care about league ratings or the meta and yes there's no need to spend to enjoy. I don't pay and I win every time my non meta defeats a meta sorcery bot. The thrill i got when my Golem took out a Leech yesterday was real nice.
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Post by shivaswrath on Nov 9, 2019 18:56:43 GMT -5
I'm top 3 unless I am leveling a weapon or bot.
2 bots usually have level 9 weapons 3 bots usually have OE weapons between 10-12.
However I do spend on average $50 per event and get gear. This is the last event I'll be doing that tho...
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Post by reckless1 on Nov 9, 2019 19:25:10 GMT -5
Many players complain that MM is broken; I am in the minority opinion that it is working exactly the way Pix wants it to. I believe many games are predetermined as to which side will win and, in general, the entire system is designed to encourage spending No,I think most of us realized this a long time ago. I won a phantom a couple days ago. They proceeded to put me in total beat downs. Need to incentivize me to rush upgrade it right? Nothing new under the sun....
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Post by maverick on Nov 9, 2019 20:38:06 GMT -5
From my gameplay experience, adding meta gear doesn't affect the win/lose ratio which is fixed, but does affect your leugue points, which are irrelevant in themselves (assuming you're on high Champs in any case). No need for meta gear. I'm going to make an experiment - I have a one year old meta account which I abandoned (Spectrain, Scourgasari etc.). I'll run it and see what happens with no meta gear. My guess - I'll have roughly the same leugue rating as my current account. Tell that to this guy he is top of the ladder in legends league. I looked at his stats a couple of days ago he was at 90% win ratio. Can you spell whale?
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Post by hyderier on Nov 10, 2019 15:09:24 GMT -5
Many players complain that MM is broken; I am in the minority opinion that it is working exactly the way Pix wants it to. Umm... I thought everybody knew the MM works pretty much the way Pix wants it to work. Which means, it is broken for those wanting fair game.
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Post by Ember on Nov 10, 2019 21:09:34 GMT -5
I believe pix has it rigged. I thoroughly believe bots run on both teams at times (I mean ai). I've seen some dumb stuff. Bots on red shooting at walls, walking then stopping in the middle of nowhere. Odd builds, etc. Some sketchy stuff. You must have been running into me a lot! LOL.
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Post by linearblade on Nov 11, 2019 1:17:54 GMT -5
IMO- experienced diehards like us (>20K victories] that are NOT whale spenders and/or do NOT follow the pix script, but still play and kick ?bum-bum? OFTEN ENOUGH to influence match outcomes, get rewarded for our efforts by being personally selected by the MM to head up Team Noobcake for the majority of matches that we play. We are considered non compliant anomalies and thus sacrificed to the almighty MISmatchmaker. We are powerless, so acknowledge your role as a sacrificial script filler in this game and embrace it I say. ...end of transmission You notice that too eh? The endless tide of meta gear on the opposing team, and on your side it’s team booger. Where you wonder if your allies are actually robots or perhaps some wage slave instructed to play the game for 50 cents an hour?
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Post by linearblade on Nov 11, 2019 1:32:34 GMT -5
Many players complain that MM is broken; I am in the minority opinion that it is working exactly the way Pix wants it to. I believe many games are predetermined as to which side will win and, in general, the entire system is designed to encourage spending. Whether itâs pushing heavy Unpopular opinion I suspect: I believe the match maker works properly. As you rise in ladder score, you extract points from the player pool. The higher you go, the harder it is to extract points from the system. The match maker is broken only because it lumps team games into the same league score. The league system would work better if points accrued for squad vs random games were valued at 1 for a win and -22 for a loss. Or whatever the handicap is. (If 5% of squad vs random games results in loss, then -+1/-22 is good. If 1%, then +1/-100) Solo games become a 「dookie」 pile because you are in the top player base of the entire system. Every step forward should be agony.
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Post by mechtout on Nov 13, 2019 9:55:32 GMT -5
62% is the red alert light of beat down time..... After playing, paying and upgrading for a year and a half, I’m still a 50%er..... Hard to believe, right? I feel it coming......
should be on my way back up soon XD
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Post by teraflx on Nov 13, 2019 10:09:42 GMT -5
I think sometimes they set up the "spending incentive" for people like me. I am in Champs and I usually hover around 5500-6000 by the end of the month. I hold my own just fine but against the high ranked guys I get smashed and they want me to think "If only I had that Leech" but it doesn't work for me and I do not spend outside of the occasional 99 cent gold, killer deal on premium (only twice) and the first operation. Here is a perfect example and it was with you Rollo Tomasi and The VVatcher. My score of 1.2mil is decent along with 4 bots killed and 4 beacons capped but we still lost and I was still in a low enough spot on the losing team to get negative points. The silver payout was also garbage with no gold and 1 key. The top 2 on the other team were monsters and would wipe my bots out in a second. That will not make me want to spend money though but rather just the opposite. Good game to both of you guys, it was a fun match! I will continue to be a mostly free player and do what I can and enjoy the game for as long as I can.
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Post by Phycoshot on Nov 13, 2019 10:18:52 GMT -5
Spending incentive? Don't you mean lack of patience?
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Post by Loganspawn on Nov 13, 2019 10:28:27 GMT -5
Well it seams most here have figured out that the Pix will play you like a fiddle if you allow. Funny how when I don't spend anything I seam to lose more hummmmmm. I go from high 90's win rate to the 60's in a heartbeat. I do run duo, full squad and some FFA is why my win rate is so high normally. Solo it ranges from 60% to 80%.
I have found after getting clobbered for 20 or so games suddenly I cant lose. Just hang in there and play how you want, spend what you want and try to have fun win lose or draw.
Look they are in business to make money you can give it to them or not that is your choice. When it is no longer fun walk away and smell some roses.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2019 10:28:38 GMT -5
Many players complain that MM is broken; I am in the minority opinion that it is working exactly the way Pix wants it to. ... Any idea what Pix is thinking on this? There's actually no contradiction in your first statement: MM is broken for many players who want fair, competitive games. It also works as intended since Pixonic wants increased monetization and short wait times. As for the second part: it's really simple, when MM is unfair people complain on the forum. When wait times get too long people stop playing the game and stop spending. Pretty simple choice there for Pixonic.
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Post by Loganspawn on Nov 13, 2019 10:29:23 GMT -5
Spending incentive? Don't you mean lack of patience? In a world full of instant gratification that is all it takes for most and they know it.
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