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Post by shosakato on Oct 16, 2019 11:43:19 GMT -5
Hey good people,
would love to hear your take on Tyr or Fenrir and why?
I am thinking of building a Tyr just because it seems to be a tank and you get all those additional healing points that you dont get with a Fenrir. I know Fenrirs leveled up are monsters especially with fortifiers but that still wont get you healing points and there are also other monsters. What do you people say?
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Oct 16, 2019 11:47:33 GMT -5
Hey good people, would love to hear your take on Tyr or Fenrir and why? I am thinking of building a Tyr just because it seems to be a tank and you get all those additional healing points that you dont get with a Fenrir. I know Fenrirs leveled up are monsters especially with fortifiers but that still wont get you healing points and there are also other monsters. What do you people say? Tyr - it’s about to get big buff to incentivize people to buy Ops Pass. Well, the DevStream blathered on about balance and variety of bots in the meta, blah blah blah. But we know the real reason. Anyway, check out TS this weekend before you decide.  |
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Post by Nitro on Oct 16, 2019 11:56:07 GMT -5
Hey good people, would love to hear your take on Tyr or Fenrir and why? I am thinking of building a Tyr just because it seems to be a tank and you get all those additional healing points that you dont get with a Fenrir. I know Fenrirs leveled up are monsters especially with fortifiers but that still wont get you healing points and there are also other monsters. What do you people say? Tyr - it’s about to get big buff to incentivize people to buy Ops Pass. Well, the DevStream blathered on about balance and variety of bots in the meta, blah blah blah. But we know the real reason. Anyway, check out TS this weekend before you decide. What's this big buff you speak of? Just wondering because I can't watch the devstream rn |
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Post by shosakato on Oct 16, 2019 11:57:36 GMT -5
Thanks Rollo!
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Oct 16, 2019 12:11:48 GMT -5
Tyr - it’s about to get big buff to incentivize people to buy Ops Pass. Well, the DevStream blathered on about balance and variety of bots in the meta, blah blah blah. But we know the real reason. Anyway, check out TS this weekend before you decide. What's this big buff you speak of? Just wondering because I can't watch the devstream rn No details. Seriously, they did a stumbling, meandering discussion about balance and variety of bots and changes and Tyr, specifically about it’s healing ability. If you can, check out TS this weekend. I’m expecting something more than the typical +2kph and +5% durability. My guess is that Ops Pass sales are in the toilet and they see this as a way to boost them. I mean, come on... The last Ops Pass gave a free, custom TOP META bot  And this Ops Pass is giving us a...Tyr  |
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Post by joshfishyu on Oct 16, 2019 12:53:06 GMT -5
Tyr, even without any future buff:
1. Leech is the hard counter to all tank bots, and we will likely to see it makes up 50+% of Champion hangars.
2. Extra honor points from healing.
3. Tyr is also easier to build; you can use almost any weapons on it if you play it as a pure support bot.
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Post by iry on Oct 16, 2019 15:44:13 GMT -5
I would say Tyr. Dont have one, but played it via skirmish. I do have a Femrir, and I just dont vibe with it. If Fenrirs heavy weapon was always active it would be a different story.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 15:49:49 GMT -5
Once the Leech infestation powers up with the soon to be released Legendary Pilot, I don’t think it matters much what you get.....except, maybe Leech.
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Post by godzillasaurus on Oct 16, 2019 18:50:27 GMT -5
I would say Fenrir, as it's a far more capable fighter. DR is permanent while a physical shield can only absorb so much damage, not counting explosives, fire, Ao Jun, kinetic weapons, etc...
Tyr is better at getting that extra 400 HP for most durability repaired. It's real easy to get top healing, especially with the Tyr pilot's unique ability + True Ace. Besides, your teammates will love you. Most of the time...
There's also the aforementioned upcoming buff. If it's anything major, it may tip the scales in balance of Tyr.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Oct 16, 2019 19:15:37 GMT -5
I would say Fenrir, as it's a far more capable fighter. DR is permanent while a physical shield can only absorb so much damage, not counting explosives, fire, Ao Jun, kinetic weapons, etc... Tyr is better at getting that extra 400 HP for most durability repaired. It's real easy to get top healing, especially with the Tyr pilot's unique ability + True Ace. Besides, your teammates will love you. Most of the time... There's also the aforementioned upcoming buff. If it's anything major, it may tip the scales in balance of Tyr. DR is not permanent on Fenrir. DR is only established when it shape shifts into Defense mode. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 19:51:49 GMT -5
I would say Fenrir, as it's a far more capable fighter. DR is permanent while a physical shield can only absorb so much damage, not counting explosives, fire, Ao Jun, kinetic weapons, etc... Tyr is better at getting that extra 400 HP for most durability repaired. It's real easy to get top healing, especially with the Tyr pilot's unique ability + True Ace. Besides, your teammates will love you. Most of the time... There's also the aforementioned upcoming buff. If it's anything major, it may tip the scales in balance of Tyr. DR is not permanent on Fenrir. DR is only established when it shape shifts into Defense mode. True that, but the DR is only 50%....which pales by comparison to Leech during ability at 90%. Give my Fenrir 90%, even Leech would run from me! Even base T Falcon is 80% IIRC, which is pretty studly too......... |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Oct 16, 2019 19:58:19 GMT -5
DR is not permanent on Fenrir. DR is only established when it shape shifts into Defense mode. True that, but the DR is only 50%....which pales by comparison to Leech during ability at 90%. Give my Fenrir 90%, even Leech would run from me! Even base T Falcon is 80% IIRC, which is pretty studly too......... Sure, I was just clarifying an incorrect statement. As for Fens DR, as I said elsewhere, it is sufficient if you dont play Fen like it’s an invincible tank. It isnt like the TF, it needs better use of cover and more clever positioning decisions. - I say that not just from exp running it, but as a Leech owner who constantly and quickly dispatches overconfident Fenrirs. |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Oct 16, 2019 19:58:29 GMT -5
DR is not permanent on Fenrir. DR is only established when it shape shifts into Defense mode. True that, but the DR is only 50%....which pales by comparison to Leech during ability at 90%. Give my Fenrir 90%, even Leech would run from me! Even base T Falcon is 80% IIRC, which is pretty studly too......... Sure, I was just clarifying an incorrect statement. As for Fens DR, as I said elsewhere, it is sufficient if you dont play Fen like it’s an invincible tank. It isnt like the TF, it needs better use of cover and more clever positioning decisions. - I say that not just from exp running it, but as a Leech owner who constantly and quickly dispatches overconfident Fenrirs. |
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Post by >bobby_digital< on Oct 16, 2019 21:24:13 GMT -5
Have both, like Tyr better than Fernir because of it's mobility. unless you're gonna take a Fernir to MK2 and get the right pilot skills, it's less robust than an equivalently leveled Tyr in my experience.
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Post by aaronc on Oct 16, 2019 21:57:38 GMT -5
Don't get a Tyr! I have one and I don't need any competition for getting top repair! I had that bot get me 400 honor pts for about 10 seconds work once! Crazy. Its probably the only reason I'm managing to hang in Champs, as that extra honor often puts me 3rd or 4th in games were my allies are rocking much better gear. So get a Fenrir  Please |
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Post by reconnecting on Oct 16, 2019 22:05:06 GMT -5
What does your hangar need? I like Fens. They are good tanks, not T-Falc level but still good. Tyr will (maybe) get you those top healing honor points. There will be more healing blues out there soon enough. So which is it, tank or healer?
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Post by shivaswrath on Oct 16, 2019 22:44:18 GMT -5
Don't get a Tyr! I have one and I don't need any competition for getting top repair! I had that bot get me 400 honor pts for about 10 seconds work once! Crazy. Its probably the only reason I'm managing to hang in Champs, as that extra honor often puts me 3rd or 4th in games were my allies are rocking much better gear. So get a Fenrir Please True sat. I've noticed many don't run healing bots in Champions League. It's an easy 400+ honor points...over 1000 games it adds up. |
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Post by milty72 on Oct 17, 2019 4:00:58 GMT -5
It's really up to you.
How you like to play.
What types of load outs you like.
What kinda music. The Fenrir has a really good stereo.
Tyr has a ......... I'm not sure, only drove it once as a hire bot and some dude/dudette was smoking cigarettes before i hired it and it stunk like an ashtray. Grosse. I wouldn't use that hire company again. No stars.
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Post by pewpewninja on Oct 17, 2019 4:18:27 GMT -5
Like others have said one heals and one has more firepower and can take much more damage.
In a 1 v 1 situation, same level scenario fenrir will eat tyr alive. Against leech again fenrir will last a little bit longer.
Tyr is a healing tank atm, and soon will get a buff probably with its healing capability as its stats good already. Maybe a slight buff to move speed and the shield.
Its two different bots, tyr will work better in 350 m above range, fenrir works better in under 350 m range.
Tyr is good because it can almost do anything, hold beacons, push beacons, heal, brawl. One thing tyr excels is its a bot that run well without using any power cell
Fenrir is a heavy brawler that you put down when you need to kill a super obese fat bots like t falcon or an invader. In a 1v1 scenario not many bots can survive a fenrir.if you use power cells fenrir is a beast And can easily wipe the floor. Thats how you are meant to use the bot. Also dont use it like a t falcon and soak up damage from 3 enemy bots (it has 2,5 mil hp) you have 650 k hp max.
me i run both tyr is actually my beacon capper i have igniters and halos with lockdown ammo (rarely used). I usually tag along an invader in squad as our beacon capper. My fenrir is my second bot and usually the one i spend most time in. Hunting ares and t falcons.
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Post by Koalabear on Oct 17, 2019 6:45:53 GMT -5
I would say Tyr. I have the Fenrir and just can't feel the love for it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2019 7:20:14 GMT -5
I would say Tyr. I have the Fenrir and just can't feel the love for it. I feel my love for my Fenrir....and am banking on buff(s) soon. Give Fenrir 70%+ DR and we have a new ballgame |
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Post by gonzoman on Oct 17, 2019 7:21:23 GMT -5
I love my TYRs and my Fenrirs. One major consideration is the use of crack between them. Fenrirs blow through heals to be effective. Heals are simply part of how the bot has to function. If you choose a Fenrir be prepared for the expenditure in heals.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2019 7:56:00 GMT -5
I love my TYRs and my Fenrirs. One major consideration is the use of crack between them. Fenrirs blow through heals to be effective. Heals are simply part of how the bot has to function. If you choose a Fenrir be prepared for the expenditure in heals. I know it doesn’t last as long, however I do not go crack crazy with healing. I usually run Quantum Radar, and once in a while I use PS....but only when staring down an Ares or I’m on fire. I’m getting better at avoiding those situations. The heal does no good at my level, fire and goo still melt me faster than I heal. If I play well, mechanic will heal me while I have a quick break behind cover. Words of wisdom from much better players than I....use crack only to make Silver....otherwise, it’s $$$$ down the toilet |
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Post by Munki on Oct 17, 2019 8:46:00 GMT -5
Fenrir at low level and without pilot skills does not sell the bot very well. Many give up on it. However, leveled up and pilot skills completed, it is a beast against most. I love that it is not a mindless bot to play; still make mistakes running it but it is very satisfying to run. Tried it with healing active modules and they just seem to be a waste and kind of like a basic version of phase shift in that it does not encourage the player to play tactically. I try to stick with one kind of active module so when I reach for the power, I am not surprised by a different effect. Quantum Radar is what I use.
Weapon wise, Redeemer with Coronas is the current config though I have put maxed out Storms on it for good effect.
Fenrir can be lots of fun but you do need to be disciplined in upgrading it and playing with it to learn to use most effectively. Guess that can be said for many bots but it is particularly true with the Fen.
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Post by reconnecting on Oct 17, 2019 10:58:04 GMT -5
I would say Tyr. I have the Fenrir and just can't feel the love for it. I feel my love for my Fenrir....and am banking on buff(s) soon. Give Fenrir 70%+ DR and we have a new ballgame That would just Rock. Top damage Every Game. :-D |
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Post by godzillasaurus on Oct 19, 2019 12:03:44 GMT -5
I would say Fenrir, as it's a far more capable fighter. DR is permanent while a physical shield can only absorb so much damage, not counting explosives, fire, Ao Jun, kinetic weapons, etc... Tyr is better at getting that extra 400 HP for most durability repaired. It's real easy to get top healing, especially with the Tyr pilot's unique ability + True Ace. Besides, your teammates will love you. Most of the time... There's also the aforementioned upcoming buff. If it's anything major, it may tip the scales in balance of Tyr. DR is not permanent on Fenrir. DR is only established when it shape shifts into Defense mode. I'm well aware, but my point was that the DR effect (when active) will constantly absorb damage until death, while a physical shield will only block a set amount for damage before breaking. |
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