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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jul 20, 2019 13:18:48 GMT -5
I’m currently running Avenger 12m2 and leveling up my first Glory. I have several places to try it if I don’t like it on TFalc, but that seems to be the go to build in Champions League. I will have to try it on strider as well.
At what point do I switch over, i.e. what level Glory? I tend to try stuff early so I can march up the learning curve, but that’s really more of an issue w bots than weapons.
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Post by Garbage game on Jul 20, 2019 13:22:12 GMT -5
MK2 to Mk1 is no comparison really. Glory is a pain in the gloryhole to level too.
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Post by no pain 80 on Jul 20, 2019 13:39:56 GMT -5
I switched from a mk1 12 avenger to a mk1 9 glory, very briefly,and finally settled on my mk1 9 redeemer. Not really apples to apples, but avenger outperformed all. The problem with the glory is the fact that you have to be close to red, but you really cant with your Turkeys mediocre speed and while being locked down for 5sec in every 10sec. That being said, i decided to settle on my redeemer considering the overal dynamics of my hangar. In one game, i made about 700k damage with my Turkey alone (it was the only bot i was able to run).With redeemer, damage output is low but seems to accumulate over time.
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Post by rags on Jul 20, 2019 16:54:38 GMT -5
I switched from a mk1 12 avenger to a mk1 9 glory, very briefly,and finally settled on my mk1 9 redeemer. Not really apples to apples, but avenger outperformed all. The problem with the glory is the fact that you have to be close to red, but you really cant with your Turkeys mediocre speed and while being locked down for 5sec in every 10sec. That being said, i decided to settle on my redeemer considering the overal dynamics of my hangar. In one game, i made about 700k damage with my Turkey alone (it was the only bot i was able to run).With redeemer, damage output is low but seems to accumulate over time. The way to do damage with the glory is to just sit on the beacon. They have to come to you. |
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jul 20, 2019 19:46:14 GMT -5
Once I install it, I def gotta give it at least a couple of weeks before I make the call. But I see many high Champions League players using this build even though it takes longer and is more expensive than avenger.
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Post by Loganspawn on Jul 22, 2019 9:41:32 GMT -5
Max your glory and use it on your T Falcon.
I tried them all maxed and Glory is where its at on a TF IMO.
Good luck and happy hunting!
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 22, 2019 9:54:23 GMT -5
I don't run T Falcon, but I recently reconfigured my Tempest Falcon to brawler build with Redeemer/Exodus. The Redeemer actually did better than I expected and I got several kills with this build. If you have good aim, I would consider the Redeemer. At 350m, it will outperform both Avenger and Glory, but is harder to use. But, the T Falcon has the durability needed to calmly aim your shots.
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Post by rb33 on Jul 22, 2019 21:41:25 GMT -5
I don't run T Falcon, but I recently reconfigured my Tempest Falcon to brawler build with Redeemer/Exodus. The Redeemer actually did better than I expected and I got several kills with this build. If you have good aim, I would consider the Redeemer. At 350m, it will outperform both Avenger and Glory, but is harder to use. But, the T Falcon has the durability needed to calmly aim your shots. How is the Tempest on the Falcon? To answer the OP, I go for Glory for the simple reason that once an Ares or Ao Jun end their special ability, I can root them in place and wham them up close or have my teammates whack them for me. And the T-Falcon has enough durability to withstand the initial attack of either and give payback with interest. The Glory's lockdown ability is very important to a F2P player like me. And for a very good practical logistic reason. Yes, there's lockdown ammo which is devastating when paired with Avenger but most free players can't afford to keep spending on refilling the powercells needed to activate the active modules all ths time. |
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 23, 2019 6:52:47 GMT -5
rb33, I liked the Tempest on the Falcon. The magazine and the ability length mesh almost perfectly. Add the sharpshooter skill and it does pretty good damage. The reason I changed was because I was looking for a bit of variety and will likely go back to it. I'm currently playing Chimera again for a bit. And yes, I have 2 different pilots that I use so that I don't have to keep retraining. One down side to the Tempest build is that it just doesn't do damage fast enough. Even with Lockdown Ammo, if I lock someone at 600m with Lockdown Ammo in the first couple of shots, it still takes the Tempests 3s to spin up to faster firing speed, so really, I'll have a second or two of increasing firing speed before the target makes it to cover. Those times when I can empty an entire magazine are uncommon, but the damage overall is pretty good. My levels are all at L9, so I'm sure you'll get better results at higher levels. If you go this route, I'd recommend promoting the pilot and get both the sharpshooter skill and the one that gets the Tempests to rapid fire faster.
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Post by rb33 on Jul 23, 2019 10:52:58 GMT -5
rb33, I liked the Tempest on the Falcon. The magazine and the ability length mesh almost perfectly. Add the sharpshooter skill and it does pretty good damage. The reason I changed was because I was looking for a bit of variety and will likely go back to it. I'm currently playing Chimera again for a bit. And yes, I have 2 different pilots that I use so that I don't have to keep retraining. One down side to the Tempest build is that it just doesn't do damage fast enough. Even with Lockdown Ammo, if I lock someone at 600m with Lockdown Ammo in the first couple of shots, it still takes the Tempests 3s to spin up to faster firing speed, so really, I'll have a second or two of increasing firing speed before the target makes it to cover. Those times when I can empty an entire magazine are uncommon, but the damage overall is pretty good. My levels are all at L9, so I'm sure you'll get better results at higher levels. If you go this route, I'd recommend promoting the pilot and get both the sharpshooter skill and the one that gets the Tempests to rapid fire faster. I'm tempted to do that on my T-Falcon... It's actually appealing to me as an Avenger alternative |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 28, 2019 21:30:41 GMT -5
What Loganspawn said.
The auto-reload mechanic not only allows a continuing slow burst; if you wait a few moments the chamber will reload several shots. In my book, that is superior to a 10s reload.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jul 30, 2019 8:59:43 GMT -5
What Loganspawn said. The auto-reload mechanic not only allows a continuing slow burst; if you wait a few moments the chamber will reload several shots. In my book, that is superior to a 10s reload. Yup, that’s my thinking. That Mk2 avenger tears it up in damage, but the 10s reload drives me nuts. I’ll be making the switch to Glory this week. Also will try 3xAvenger on my other ClassicFalcon for a while. I’ll miss TT jumping action though, on the right maps that thing is fun! |
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Aug 2, 2019 8:53:32 GMT -5
It hasn’t even been a week yes, but so far Glory TFalcon option (hey, the GTFO!)...  |
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Post by non4me on Aug 2, 2019 11:07:39 GMT -5
It hasn’t even been a week yes, but so far Glory TFalcon option (hey, the GTFO!)... Tomorrow my glory will be at level 10 and I will replace the L12 ember and continue to upgrade the glory to L11 where it is likely to stay for a little while. Tried a L12 Avenger on the T Falcon and found that I was just better with the ember and the 10s cool down vs 5s for the embers made the ember just better. I prefer to keep my 2 avengers on the bully where it consistently does me pretty good. |
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Aug 2, 2019 11:50:22 GMT -5
It hasn’t even been a week yes, but so far Glory TFalcon option (hey, the GTFO!)... Tomorrow my glory will be at level 10 and I will replace the L12 ember and continue to upgrade the glory to L11 where it is likely to stay for a little while. Tried a L12 Avenger on the T Falcon and found that I was just better with the ember and the 10s cool down vs 5s for the embers made the ember just better. I prefer to keep my 2 avengers on the bully where it consistently does me pretty good. Yeah, I ran avenger bully for a while, great bot. The great thing about Glory is no point blank issues (so far) like the ember has. But if I can get the hang of piloting this 3Av Falcon, man o man, what a freaking damage wh0re it can be. edit - I still think ember w exo fangs is my fav CFalc build. |
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Post by non4me on Aug 16, 2019 9:27:25 GMT -5
Tomorrow my glory will be at level 10 and I will replace the L12 ember and continue to upgrade the glory to L11 where it is likely to stay for a little while. Tried a L12 Avenger on the T Falcon and found that I was just better with the ember and the 10s cool down vs 5s for the embers made the ember just better. I prefer to keep my 2 avengers on the bully where it consistently does me pretty good. Yeah, I ran avenger bully for a while, great bot. The great thing about Glory is no point blank issues (so far) like the ember has. But if I can get the hang of piloting this 3Av Falcon, man o man, what a freaking damage wh0re it can be. edit - I still think ember w exo fangs is my fav CFalc build. I got my L11 glory and it just couldn't match what I was doing with the Ember...so I'll trade it every once in a while to see if I get better with it. OBTW, about 1 in 20 matches does the point blank issue come into play. Usually when a strider just butts up against me and won't let me get any distance. Pursuers I ignore and Blitzs tend to go for other targets unless I'm really weak. Met one maxed phantom so far...and it was devastating but that was probably because I was admiring the speed and abilities. Next time, I'll start working on survival strategies. |
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Aug 16, 2019 12:41:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I ran avenger bully for a while, great bot. The great thing about Glory is no point blank issues (so far) like the ember has. But if I can get the hang of piloting this 3Av Falcon, man o man, what a freaking damage wh0re it can be. edit - I still think ember w exo fangs is my fav CFalc build. I got my L11 glory and it just couldn't match what I was doing with the Ember...so I'll trade it every once in a while to see if I get better with it. OBTW, about 1 in 20 matches does the point blank issue come into play. Usually when a strider just butts up against me and won't let me get any distance. Pursuers I ignore and Blitzs tend to go for other targets unless I'm really weak. Met one maxed phantom so far...and it was devastating but that was probably because I was admiring the speed and abilities. Next time, I'll start working on survival strategies. I’m back to avenger for now, while I try glory on strider. And, tbh, I was getting a bit bored w Tfalc...gasp, I know...but Ad RH helps make it a fun late-mid game bot to drop when the chips are down. 65 is a pretty decent clip. |
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