New Player Advice: Leo vs Natasha

Leo is a better brawler. The natty is devastating if it gets the drop on anything but it is a little slower and more fragile.

As Darkangel said, piñatas are a good choice for the light slots. Punishers do pair well with thunders for range and spread but the rockets improve your burst damage and ability to kill shield bots. Magnums are also solid choices.

Leo kept me playing the game when I was being pushed into tougher matches than I was ready for. At earlier levels of play, the firepower difference between Leo and Nat not a big difference

Between nat and leo, I would choose...griffin Only Ag heavy with acceptable mobility. Not as robust as leo but all DB setups pack more punch.
I have 2 leos and I use none, as they are slow and the high HP is a questionable compensation for being a slow bullet catcher.
Natty changed recently, but I've never tried one; TriPin sounds reasonable though.

Yesterday I was fooling around in Molot Griff. Lasted entire canyon match. I scored just over 400k damage, made few kills (5 I guess) and took 3rd place lol
And that was the poor 5/6/6/6 combination of molots (5 was one of the medium hardpoints!).
This setup starts putting holes in reds still above 700m; below that point it's doing better than expected.

Leo for the set-ups you are thinking about. Consider also using a Tulum/pin Griffin. It will be useful longer. What is your current hangar and Gold and WSP purchases?

Leo is a bit lacking on damage, but Natasha is just so much lower HP, and so much slower overall, that it isn't even a competition. If you have a real (not imaginary Destrier vs Natasha) choice situatuion between Natasha and something else, get the something else

Now Natasha has it's place. For example, when you want to fool around and piss off the blues (and slightly annoy the reds, I guess), get that Zenit Noricum Natasha and let loose! The smoke, the noise, the shaking screen of opponents, what could be better?! Well, doing actual damage and helping your team to win might be better, but besides that?

I'm really new to all War Robots, I've only been playing for about 4 weeks, so I have a lot to learn. However I have found that what works for others doesn't necessarily work for me. I have a Natasha, Leo, Griffin and a Golem in my hangar and my go to machine for really tough fights in the Natasha. I've put twin Level 6 Thunders and twin Level 5 magnums on it and it is my main silver earner. I have a Level 6 thunder and triple Level 6 Pinatas on the Leo which also works really well but I can attack more successfully with the Nat than the Leo. The Griffin is also good but I don't think it brings in the same points as the Natasha.

I was in your place 2 weeks ago. My experience for starting the game:

---------Setups you should try as beginner (before you spend gold/wsp)---------
Use 2-3 brawler and 1 Midrange support and 0-1 Long range or Beacon runner
Do not mix weapon ranges. For example Zenith/Nashorn-Spiral-Pin/Pinata-Thunder Natasha is bad for long range bad for medium range and bad for close range.
Do not mix burst(rockets) and constant damage (machine guns, plasma) weapons. They require different play style. There are exceptions for this rule.

1) Brawlers

a) Leo - Thunder-3x Pinata
Leo is a very tought bot with decent firepower. Release the pinatas for initial burst below 300m then close up the wounded enemy because thunder has effective range of 200m, also mention thunder reload while you shoot but its reload time slower than the fire rate so do not try to shoot at 500 m except you fight energy shield.
Leo is too slow for punishers (effective range 200 m)

b) Griffin - Punishers
The fire power of 6 punisher (2 light 2 medium) is not the best but it works if you can ambush an enemy. This is where the jump comes in.

c) Boa - Thunder - Punisher
Suboptimal firepower however Boa is a good beginner medium bot. It has lot of health acceptable speed and it teach you how to use cover and it can corner shooting.


2) Mid range support

a) Griffin - 2xPin-2xTulumbas
Excellent mid range bot. You need to learn how you can target with the rockets and how to use your jump defensively or offensively (be aware in the air all damage taken is much higher). The effective range is 500m your vertical jump is 150 m so try to keep distance and use your firepower to support your close range team mates in their 1v1 fights.

b) Griffin/Patton - Molots
Molot is a suboptimal weapon but as beginner it could work. It has 500m effective range so if you can keep at least 300m you could beat any silver only knife fighter, however the rocket griffin is better support bot.

c) Patton - Spirals
It is not as good but worthy to teach you how to use homing missiles. Spirals has low damage but the range is 600 m and they can hit bots behind cover. If you have problems using Pins, Tulumbases or Pinatas give it a try, you can learn how to disengage from enemy and using cover while your rockets reloading. You need to switch on the target selection feature in the options to use spirals effectively.

3)Beacon runner

a) Cossack - Tulumbas/Molot/Ecu
The best silver beacon runner. Cossack do not have chance in close combat so the 500m range is more optimal to provide some support fire when needed. Use the covers and speed to avoid combat, and try to target undefended beacons to lure out the enemy from the frontline. If you cannot find more beacon to conquer then eject to another bot.

b) Schutze - Thunder
Slower then Cossack but the Thunder give some firepower to ambush enemy or kill enemy Cossacks.

4) Long range
a) Natasha - 2xNashorn - 2x Spiral
Nashorn can fire 1100m and has better dpm then king dae (lower damage but much faster reload time). Spiral has the longest effective range in light silver only slot and you can target covered enemies. If you play long range always take the home beacons to let your team mates rush for the frontline beacons. Before each shot try to priorize targets (beacon runners, bots targeting team mates). Long range is disasterly bad in mid game if you are behind in beacons so eject to another bot. Playing sniper is hard and they only have advantage on large open maps.

b) Natasha - 2xZenith - 2x Noricum
Do not even think about it. Artilerry in the most cases is handicap for your team.


---------Gold puchases---------
Check the wiki for guide. Summary:
1) 4th slot
2-3) 5th slot or 1-2 Orkan order is depends on your preference
4) Your preference

If you have 1 orkan you can use it on a Thunder-Orkan Boa or on a cossack
If you have 2 orkan you can use Griffin with 2xPinata 2xOrkan for awesome close range burst. (Calling Death Button Griffin)

---------Workshop purchases---------
Wsp come easier then gold if you are patient. Start with weapons first.

If you have 1 taran you can use it on a Thunder-Taran Boa what significally improve the bot. Taran has 350 range high damage and fast reload time.
If you have 2 taran and 2 magnum you can use Plasma Griffin what is one of the best bot for bronze and silver tier.

Do not worry about spending silver for bots weapons in the beginning you earn much more then you spend for upgrades so try out different setups to find your playstyle.

I had a Nat with 2 thunders and 2 Magnum. If you can get within 100m, you can basically kill everything except shield bot (Gary can be killed too if he keep fighting you within 100m) I had fun with this Nat, but not anymore. Once my rating goes up and face more experience player, no one without shields will fight me in that range. Because Nat is so slow, you hardly able to fight anyone within even 300m.

This setup is one of the most dps in this game, but only if you can fight other bots within 100m or 150m

In high levels Natasha, but for medium range like this video shows:


Leo is more usefull bit earlier in the game (lvl 6-7 or even 8 bots) and close range:

Leo but i will run Leo with thunder/magnums or thunder/pinatas or trident/pins.

I used both when starting and I think I bought the Natty first. However, I would recommend you go with a Leo outfitted with a thunder plus 3 publishers. The HP difference between the two bots is definitely noticeable. However, I would get a Natasha next and try her out as well. Just as the extra HP is noticeable, switching a punisher or even a pinata for a thunder makes a huge difference. If she doesn't work out that way, I used a Natty equipped with nashorns (much faster reload than kang dae so more damage over time) to great effect. I also had gekkos, but they cost gold, so you could go with molots or even spirals instead.

So I guess in the end, neither will make or break you from my perspective. It just depends on how quickly you can buy another bot and if you can afford to deal damage at a slower rate in exchange for higher hp and more mobility. I will say that I don't use Natasha setups very often anymore in Silver II, but a Leo (sometimes even two) is still part of my hangar (thunder/aphids).

I've never once thought... ooh no there is a Natasha...

i often have have to take a breathe to take on a Leo...