verrm
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Post by verrm on Dec 11, 2018 7:45:43 GMT -5
 First of all - LOVE the community! Always helpful, love ya!Please help me with my hangar as I don't know how to proceed now... What player type am I?I like to sit mid-range and low-range doing burst damage. I enjoy trying to outsmart opponent, hiding and dashing out of hide to eliminate threats. Trying not to grab attention from enemy team so they won't know what's coming before it's too late. I don't like super-close-and-intensive fights, or sitting back and sniping/rocketing opponents from very far away. I never tried being a support nurse with repair bots. I am the type of "silent eliminator / support-by-burstfire" teamplayer and when needed I cap/guard points. At the moment I have mostly top damage and 2nd eliminations in most games though I think this will change once my opponents get smarter. I am not hyper-active player, mostly busy with life, sitting for a couple of games every 1-2 days. Please mind that I don't have much time for grinding... What part of my hangar I enjoy most?
I like my triple trident Fury the most of my whole hangar. I also enjoy Orkan/pin DB Griffin. What part of my hangar do I find lacking?
1. I feel like my Thunder Carnage is underpowered at the moment. The sheer amount of energy weapons and semi-open maps at the moment makes this build hard to utilize properly as I am mostly dead before I reach 3/4 way to the enemy. 2. I think my tulu+pin Griffin is not giving sufficient firepower, especially compared to trident Fury. 3. I think that all my Griffins have too little hp/tankiness. They melt so fast... What is my original plan that may need fixing?1. I want to swap my Carnage or Carnage's weapons to create a tactical bot. A bot that would be able to take down targets that are behind cover. I thought mostly about bot with Aphid/Vortex/Thermite family, but I might be good also with some Hydra-family bot (fujin?) 2. I want to level up my weapons and bots to lvl8. Starting with Griffs > Tridents > Tulus > rest... 3. Long-term I want to switch one of my Griffins to Spectre and load it with shocktrains or some other painful solution. What do I have already in stock (things I already own)?Natasha, Leo, Gepard, Rhino, Raijin, Rogatka, Fujin, other bots not worth mentioning.... small weps - magnum and some trash med weps - ecu, tulu, orkan and some trash heavy weps - zeus, 2x thunder and some trash 2,5mln Silver 5,9k Gold |
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Post by wildboar on Dec 11, 2018 8:36:04 GMT -5
I ran a Carnage thunder for a while ... it was fun being a sneaky assassin but I got much better results with 2 Zeus
Now sadly retired... you have 1 Zeus ... buy another or maybe drive for a dragoon to pair with, they have the same range & dragoons once leveled are a beast ... then 2 dragoons ...
For me I would look to something that you will want to use in higher leagues... there is little point spending millions of Ag on upgrading a bot/weapon you will ultimately change
Forget shocktrains ... hydra builds are for trolling purposes - they don't do enough damage until they are seriously leveled ... and they are a little dull to play
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 11, 2018 8:58:55 GMT -5
You can try a pair of Chimeras on the Carnage. Stay behind cover, let your Ancile protect you from splash and Hydras, peek you weapons out over cover, etc...
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Post by Robrero on Dec 11, 2018 11:56:34 GMT -5
Looking good so far.
* Carnage: Get two Avengers and upgrade to Bulwark later
* Plasma Griffin:
- Ancile/Taran Lancelot would be an upgrade but also different playstyle
- or upgrade to Redeemer/Taran Inquisitor
* Orkan Griffin:
- upgrade to Thunder/Orkan Inquisitor, get Avenger or Exodus later
- or Orkan Spectre
- Orkan/Pinata Hover (beacon runner)
- Orkan Kumiho (beacon runner)
* Tulu Gruffin:
- Try out Tulu Doc
- Tulu Raven (beacon runner)
- or upgrade to Tulu Spectre
* Replace one of the four with a beacon runner like:
- (cheap) Thunder/Gust, Orkan/Pinata or Taran/Magnum Gareth
- (cheap) Punisher or Magnum Stalker
- Gust or Magnum Pursuer
- Raven
- Hover
- Kumiho
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 11, 2018 19:29:17 GMT -5
Good info from these guys, but for me, I wouldn’t go with chimera - too passive a weapon I think for your playing style. Some seconded advice and some new...
Look at high tier players hangers to see end game of weapons upgrades, pay more attention to weapons than bots.
Save for a second 600m weapon for carnage and future bulwark. Because carnage is pretty flimsy, I prefer LR weapons, tridents, zeus, tempest and of course dragoon. I run zeus/dragoon on a bulwark and survive ok in champion league. I also like the Zeus/dragoon combo as compliments to each other, different load times, Zeus can stay locked on fast moving targets that dragoon might miss, etc.
While you are saving for future builds, I would focus on trident, ork and taran upgrades. Hold off on pins, mags and pinatas, Gust replaces those in upper tiers.
Big second vote for tulu doc. Near perfect timing of reload and cool down. Reasonably tanky and quick. One of my fav bots.
And don’t write off punishers/punisherT. Can be a wicked griff combo, Inside 200m they can be devastating. I run a punisherT avenger Lancelot in champs w solid results. Also, upgrade times for the lead hose weapons are not too ridiculous.
Upper leagues don’t see as many griffs, the newer jump bots have replaced them. I prefer the inquisitor to the specter, fwiw.
Oh yeah, I really miss my rog. That was one fun bot to play, works great with tartans, orks, vortex. Just too fragile for upper tier play.
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verrm
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Post by verrm on Dec 12, 2018 9:59:53 GMT -5
Thanks guys for so much advice!
Thinking now about switching thunders on my Carnage for Dragoon/Zeus with a plan to get 2x Dragoons on it + switching tulu griff for tulu doc. I hope it makes sense...
I saw a video last night on youtube of a guy with full vortex spectre - that was sick dmg! And seemed reasonable too... Not sure about future tho as the Aphid-family guns usually were nerfed and you dont see them often in high-end hangars...
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Post by Dragoni2 on Dec 12, 2018 10:24:05 GMT -5
My personal recommendation(with my little gold 3 experience) is to buy 2 avengers with that pile of gold and get that carnage to extreme damage for your hangar. My most powerful bot is by far dual avenger Raijin, and I love the damage output dearly. Just an idea.
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 12, 2018 11:19:11 GMT -5
Thanks guys for so much advice! Thinking now about switching thunders on my Carnage for Dragoon/Zeus with a plan to get 2x Dragoons on it + switching tulu griff for tulu doc. I hope it makes sense... I saw a video last night on youtube of a guy with full vortex spectre - that was sick dmg! And seemed reasonable too... Not sure about future tho as the Aphid-family guns usually were nerfed and you dont see them often in high-end hangars... First off, don't worry about high end hangars. Play what's fun for you. As for the Carnage, I think Tridents might be best right now. Tridents let you shoot at corners. Dragoons and Zeus mean you have to expose yourself to shoot them, and the Carnage is a horrible corner shooter, so you WILL get hit by return Dragoon and Zeus fire. |
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Post by verrm on Dec 18, 2018 5:34:44 GMT -5
Hi guys, An update - I bought 2x Zeus for Carnage and I'm liking it! Even though Carnage is maybe not the best corner shooter he does have a nice elevation to the guns that sometimes enables shooting from above a low cover or from a ramp without being exposed to enemy weapons. Also I found that in-built ancile counters long-range artilery fire nicely (like Zenits). I also needed something to be efficient vs energy shield bots and it fits nicely with Carnage at mid-range and taran griff at close range  . While I am working on updating Zeuses I will then work on getting 3rd and 4th tulumbas upgraded and switch tulu griff for tulu doc (or spectre if I manage to get somehow enough points for it). |
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