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Post by Robrero on Nov 28, 2018 9:01:41 GMT -5
I want to build one long range bot (range > Avenger) for my hangar.
Contenders are:
Zeus Fury
Trident Fury
Tulu Spectre
Ballista Spectre
I'm in expert 2 atm and plan on moving up. I like to switch between br, dom and ffa.
Would have to build any of the setups from scratch (only the Fury is lvl 10).
Just looking for opinions and experiences with those builds.
Rest of my hangar:
Avenger/Orkan Inquisitor
Avenger Falcon
Gust/Halo Pursuer
Avenger/Punisher Lancelot
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Post by sylche on Nov 28, 2018 9:09:15 GMT -5
trebuchet fury > Ballista Spectre with same level weapon  at level 12 non mk2 57960 vs 40000 |
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Post by bravex on Nov 28, 2018 9:13:37 GMT -5
I run a Tulu Spectre and think it's great.
I don't have enough Ballistas but I have seen others use it very effectively. I'm not sure if that build is for everyone.
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Post by sylche on Nov 28, 2018 9:38:06 GMT -5
But care with trebuchet you need 23 seconds for shot at max strenght 1 Nashorn can shot 3 times in 27 seconds for a 30114 damage Ballista take 12 secondes for full charge for 10 000 damage nashorn its 9 seconds I play a LR natasha with 2 gekko and 2 Nashorns .... I love it  Maybe a triple Flux for 100K dmg in 5 seconds = 20K / s it's better than all others if you consider damage in minutes |
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 28, 2018 9:44:57 GMT -5
LR bots in FFA will not survive. But, if you wanted a bot that has a chance, then I'd say Ballista Spectre. Bring it out at the end to kill steal.
Zeus, Trident and Tulus are no LR weapons. They are MR. So, decide what range you want to engage at. True LR weapons are Flux, Gekko, Trebs and yes, Zenit and Noris.
Out of them all, and keep in mind that I don't have any, but I think the Ballista is probably the most versatile - especially if you get 4 and put on a Spectre because we all know that no matter how weak a weapon sounds, when you put 4 of them on a bot that can run, jump and stealth, they will be OP.
If you plan on running the one hangar, and will do FFA occasionally, and don't want to do too much swapping when you do, then go Ballista Spectre or BS for short!
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Post by bravex on Nov 28, 2018 9:50:43 GMT -5
LR bots in FFA will not survive. But, if you wanted a bot that has a chance, then I'd say Ballista Spectre. Bring it out at the end to kill steal. I run a Treb Butch. When I want to do FFA I take him out of my lineup and substitute Thunder Raijin. |
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Post by Robrero on Nov 28, 2018 10:16:25 GMT -5
But care with trebuchet you need 23 seconds for shot at max strenght 1 Nashorn can shot 3 times in 27 seconds for a 30114 damage Ballista take 12 secondes for full charge for 10 000 damage nashorn its 9 seconds I play a LR natasha with 2 gekko and 2 Nashorns .... I love it Maybe a triple Flux for 100K dmg in 5 seconds = 20K / s it's better than all others if you consider damage in minutes Thanks to all for the input so far. Trebuchet and Nashorn are out, cause I don't want to stand at 1000m and shoot at single pixels. Flux may have some merit at shorter range but it's too expensive and takes too much time to upgrade for me. Afaik, Ballista received an update and is fully loaded after 6 seconds now. |
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Post by sylche on Nov 28, 2018 10:24:07 GMT -5
ok then 40K dmg all 6 sec Really cool Treb is like Ballista you can shot at 20 m if you want A Lancelot with Treb and 2 Ballista ? You are protect from another balista A raijin with 2 Treb in bastion mod ? Have you saw Tempest ? Long range is over 800m |
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Post by Robrero on Nov 28, 2018 10:32:49 GMT -5
ok then 40K dmg all 6 sec Really cool Treb is like Ballista you can shot at 20 m if you want A Lancelot with Treb and 2 Ballista ? You are protect from another balista A raijin with 2 Treb in bastion mod ? Have you saw Tempest ? Long range is over 800m Yea, but if you stand at 20m and need to reload 23sec... Also, you forget the main advantage of the Ballista: it can be mounted on a Spectre Tempest seems cool, but same cost/upgrade time as Flux. |
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Post by Joopiter on Nov 28, 2018 10:39:39 GMT -5
You need to confirm the distance you're looking for. Because, your contenders are all midrangers.
IMO strongest current MR- Dragoon Bukwark/Fury
Very effective if not best LR- Flux Fury/Falcon
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Post by Robrero on Nov 28, 2018 10:43:06 GMT -5
Oh, and pls don't get hung up on "long range", guys.
I simply want a build with more range than the Avengers and those four are the ones I:
*think could be fun to play
*can afford
*have reasonable upgrade time
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Post by Joopiter on Nov 28, 2018 11:05:38 GMT -5
Well with that said we probably need to know what you have in your inventory as far as old economy. You have three Zeus?
What your asking doesn't exactly fit together. You want a inexpensive set up that will last you when you're moving up in leagues.
Also you were leaning towards ballistas but they're 35 mil for level 12 and you would need four of them. Tempest are 55 million for level 12 and you would only need two of them. So the math is in favor of the more expensive item obviously.
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Post by Robrero on Nov 28, 2018 11:33:44 GMT -5
You want a inexpensive set up that will last you when you're moving up in leagues. This, exactly. I chose four potential builds and would like to hear opinions about it. I'm not leaning towards ballista, just told the other guy that I think it's better than Trebs. About the ballista upgrade time/cost: After the last update it should be en par with Tulus. I may be wrong, then ballista would be out. Edit: Asked one of my clanmates who has ballistas. He told me that they need exactly 1 day to upgrade from 7->8, without premium. So, that's 1/3 of old upgrade time and even faster than tulu's. |
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Post by sylche on Nov 28, 2018 14:31:13 GMT -5
then ballista spectre ..... another one |
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Post by Joopiter on Nov 28, 2018 15:21:37 GMT -5
I want to build one long range bot ( range > Avenger) for my hangar. Contenders are:
Zeus Fury
Trident Fury
Tulu Spectre
Ballista SpectreZeus Fury - solid mid ranger but no good in FFA. Was boring for me after a few matches. Trident Fury - damage is ok, but not worth investment. In much need of a buff. Terrible in FFA. Also, boring. Ballista Spectre - probably fun build although will likely need to be mk2 in higher leagues. Most expensive choice. Tulumba Spectre - of these choices, the definite way to go. Strong in current meta, prob won't get nerfed. Good in Dom and FFA. Cheap if you've gotta spec already. |
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Post by Robrero on Nov 28, 2018 16:33:10 GMT -5
Yea, I think you're right about the Zeus. Trident is also questionable in higher leagues, even after the update. Maybe I'll try it out later.
So Ballista or Tulu Spectre.
Ballista has even lower upgrade time than Tulu's but 10k gold initial cost...
eh, I don't really need other weapons or bots so I think I will drop my saved up gold on the Ballistas and see how it goes.
If they suck, I can always come back to the Tulus.
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Post by moody on Nov 28, 2018 17:51:36 GMT -5
I want to build one long range bot ( range > Avenger) for my hangar. Contenders are:
Zeus Fury
Trident Fury
Tulu Spectre
Ballista SpectreTrident Fury - damage is ok, but not worth investment. In much need of a buff. Terrible in FFA. Also, boring. Was buffed yesterday. Quite useful now. If you have old economy at level 1, sell them and buy new economy. Half the silver and time to upgrade. |
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