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Post by AcuityAxiom on Nov 16, 2018 2:24:44 GMT -5
It seems like every player is collectively afraid to even engage a player with a Dragoon equipped, and rightfully so, it fires so fast, has an absurd range, and does hefty damage.
Other than fight fire with fire and shift production gears to work a Dragoon into my hangars somehow, I'm not sure how to even fight these. They're commonly on Bulwark, Carnage and Fury i might add.
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Post by Bladeacer on Nov 16, 2018 2:32:15 GMT -5
It seems like every player is collectively afraid to even engage a player with a Dragoon equipped, and rightfully so, it fires so fast, had a absurd range, and does hefty damage. Other than fight fire with fire and shift production gears to work a Dragoon into my hangars somehow, I'm not sure how to even fight these. Options: Suppression Lockdown Healing Spiral,Hydra,Chimera Molot,Molot T,Tempest Gekko,Flux Arbalast,Ballista,Trebutchet Aegis Overload |
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Post by AcuityAxiom on Nov 16, 2018 2:45:12 GMT -5
It seems like every player is collectively afraid to even engage a player with a Dragoon equipped, and rightfully so, it fires so fast, had a absurd range, and does hefty damage. Other than fight fire with fire and shift production gears to work a Dragoon into my hangars somehow, I'm not sure how to even fight these. Options: Suppression Lockdown Healing Spiral,Hydra,Chimera Molot,Molot T,Tempest Gekko,Flux Arbalast,Ballista,Trebutchet Aegis Overload What about against Bulwark? They're the most powerful on that. |
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Post by eco on Nov 16, 2018 3:14:21 GMT -5
As a dragoon carnage owner: with dragoon you usually focus on one target multiple attackers are dangerous. After some shots (I think its the fourth) the dragoon shoots slower.it will take a while to recharge during this time firepower is reduced and attackers might make it. Lancelots,bulgasaris,bulwark,galahad shields are a pain to get through. Very rare but anything with tempest or molot can outrange the dragoon. Also the flux
Other than that some have the skill to somehow always find cover.
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Post by LeeVicky on Nov 16, 2018 3:42:58 GMT -5
I can tell what kills my Fury most of the time:
a) other Bulwark or Fury obviously (Carnage is obsolete in Champions League)
b) tulumbas Spectres
c) gust Pursuers
I don't use Bulwark, bcos I prefer higher firepower, but the way to defeat it is the same
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Post by DarkVagabond on Nov 16, 2018 4:12:55 GMT -5
It seems like every player is collectively afraid to even engage a player with a Dragoon equipped, and rightfully so, it fires so fast, has an absurd range, and does hefty damage. Other than fight fire with fire and shift production gears to work a Dragoon into my hangars somehow, I'm not sure how to even fight these. They're commonly on Bulwark, Carnage and Fury i might add. By far the greatest threat to a Dragoon Bulwark at the moment is a high level Tulumbus Spectre. There seems to be a bug currently that allows the Tulus to do double damage to the Aegis shield of the Bulwark. So you can take out the shield AND do some damage to the bot. You won’t take it out with one hit, but with the splash damage of Tulus you can continue to chip away at it over time. Failing that, the best way is to flank it with an Orkan Spectre, although this is always tough on Yamantau and Canyon. My advice would be to pair up with another player who is targeting the Dragoon build and double team them. The Dragoons will probably kill one of you, but the other one can take out the trash... |
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Post by Schquirrelschak on Nov 16, 2018 8:09:31 GMT -5
Brit bits block plasma with physical shields, Goons are plasma.
My personal preference is a Gareth with Halos and scourge. Its quick enough to flank and tank the onslaught. Get nice and close then let the Scourge do its thing. The halo is for rooting the reds coming to assist the Dragoon bot you are frying. You can hit 2 different bots at the same time if you lock
on with the scourge but adjust the aim point the Halo.
Otherwise my other go-to is using a Hover Jump to bait the Goon's attention, tank a few hits and then Root em with Pulsars and then pray that blue supporting fire comes to your aid.
It can be a poop sammich either way but its only stupid if it doesn't work.
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 16, 2018 8:21:49 GMT -5
Remember that the Dragoon, as a sniper weapon, will always hit centre mass. So, corner shoot and don't expose the centre of your bot. Stick out just a little and count the number of shots. They they go into fire while reload, that's when you make your move.
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Post by LeeVicky on Nov 16, 2018 8:42:41 GMT -5
Remember that the Dragoon, as a sniper weapon, will always hit centre mass. So, corner shoot and don't expose the centre of your bot. Stick out just a little and count the number of shots. They they go into fire while reload, that's when you make your move. Remember that the Dragoon, is a sniper weapon, so good luck corner shooting from 550m+ and why would anyone shoot wall while you corner shoot him? |
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 16, 2018 9:29:41 GMT -5
If you have a Trident, you have same range - a bit more actually, and splash. Approach the Dragoon user from cover. Just because it's a 600m sniper weapon, battles often get much shorter than that. Get within 500m and corner shoot with Tulus, or if he is shooting someone else, step out and give him the full nine yards. Or, jump in a homing missile build and spam kill him - my favorite tactic.
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Post by LeeVicky on Nov 16, 2018 9:44:25 GMT -5
Yes I agree that trident Fury and tulumbas Spectre are good counters, but corner shooting isn't effective at all. Except maybe scourge Bulgasaries. I deal with them by hidding/going out of range and finishing them when they choose to chase.
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Post by HarvesterOsorrow on Nov 16, 2018 9:57:39 GMT -5
Bulwark or Fury kriptonite: Anything short and fast. If a Pursuer gets in close it’s over. He is too short to shoot and too fast to back up from.
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Post by hi5 on Nov 16, 2018 11:03:35 GMT -5
Remember that the Dragoon, as a sniper weapon, will always hit centre mass. So, corner shoot and don't expose the centre of your bot. Stick out just a little and count the number of shots. They they go into fire while reload, that's when you make your move. However, unlike Shocktrain that are line thin impact areas and multiple mounted weapons all hit a very small center mass together - dragoon’s have more spread, esp on a Fury. I’ve been half covered by a wall but still taken partial hits from one of the dragoon’s, which have a larger impact area than ST. Corner shooting using rooting weapons with 600 range have had the best luck suppressing the Bulwark and fury dragoon builds for me. The damage isn’t much, but just the threat of getting stuck keeps them ducking instead of sniping. Aegis needs to be warn down on Bully’s, so lead hose/root combo builds can be effective. |
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Post by bunnydata on Nov 16, 2018 17:12:30 GMT -5
I like humping the leg of a long range bot with a stealthed pursuer. This is purely a me problem...
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Post by snk on Nov 17, 2018 11:50:48 GMT -5
My Dragoon Bulwark actually hate Tempest/Flux Fury, Avengers Bulwark, Hydra Spectre and Tulumbus Spectre. Max level of these weapons can depleted the Aegis very fast, and most brawlers got in range.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Nov 18, 2018 18:51:15 GMT -5
It seems like every player is collectively afraid to even engage a player with a Dragoon equipped, and rightfully so, it fires so fast, has an absurd range, and does hefty damage. Other than fight fire with fire and shift production gears to work a Dragoon into my hangars somehow, I'm not sure how to even fight these. They're commonly on Bulwark, Carnage and Fury i might add. Bulwars are allergic to orkans. As for furies, flux them to death. Pray someone is using carnage, the bots terrible. |
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Nov 22, 2018 16:59:06 GMT -5
It seems like every player is collectively afraid to even engage a player with a Dragoon equipped, and rightfully so, it fires so fast, has an absurd range, and does hefty damage. Other than fight fire with fire and shift production gears to work a Dragoon into my hangars somehow, I'm not sure how to even fight these. They're commonly on Bulwark, Carnage and Fury i might add. Pray someone is using carnage, the bots terrible. BLASPHEMY!!!! |
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Post by BossieBos on Nov 22, 2018 17:24:31 GMT -5
Bulwark or Fury kriptonite: Anything short and fast. If a Pursuer gets in close it’s over. He is too short to shoot and too fast to back up from. Molot T/Tempest Lancelot can be added to that list at 601~800m range.  |
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