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Nov 4, 2018 21:48:59 GMT -5
Post by Occasionally lucky on Nov 4, 2018 21:48:59 GMT -5
How would you deal with the constant updates and newer bots? Pix usually pops out a new line of bots and weapons right when I usually start to get something like a inquistador, so it seems that I’m always behind bot wise. the weapons are reletively constant but change with the bots.
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Post by rags on Nov 4, 2018 22:10:11 GMT -5
Choose wisely
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 22:52:30 GMT -5
DO NOT try to keep up with releases and meta gear unless you have aspirations of being high champion or League legend material. New gear chasing will only frustrate you and keep you resource poor unless you have a voluminous playing cash account. New releases along with continuing (publicised or not) buffs and nerfs over time tends to moderate "meta" gear to the point where it may lead you down a path that you eventually will have invested in crap. Try to find the median (middle of the road) in your hangar needs giving consideration to your gameplay requirements and not Pixonics. This forum will give you some sense of what is generally used to some useful effect. Avoid the "one offs" touting how they clean up maps with frankenbots and unusual builds - this will only lead to a disorganised approach by you that will further lead to longer term frustration when you realise that it may work for them but not for you (after you have blown Au and Ag). Another good reference are the posts that kukurukukuk puts up with a summary of what's happening at the League of Legends level with regard to bot and weapon use. Don't use it as a "be all end all" list of what you have to get but look at what are the most popular bots and weapons to give you some idea of what the masses are using. The majority of selected gear is being used for a reason - it works. Can't get the best bots? - don't sweat it - concentrate on the weapons. Can't get the best weapons? - again, don't sweat it - there are CLASSES of weapons (energy, plasma, kinetic etc) so see what within the class is CLOSE to the performance characteristics of what is being used. Lastly, IMO, forget Mk2 gear and concentrate on what you need for the level you are most comfortable playing. Don't worry about losses as the up side to these is that they can be a moderator to keep you within a certain zone until get a better understanding of what and where you want to go. Hope this helps.
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Post by AcuityAxiom on Nov 5, 2018 0:11:17 GMT -5
Have a mental plan and be ready to switch gears at all times, like before the upgrade rush i was focusing on leveling my main hangar to level 10 across the board for better performance in Domination, but when upgrade rush was introduced I switched back to leveling up lowest level equipment and bots first, because my Domination hangar only has ONE new economy weapon, everything else being old economy, my 2nd hangar is mostly new economy, meaning that i would benefit from upgrading them under the halved times.
My advice: Stick to your guns, avoid new bots and weapons when in combat until you can fully understand them, but if it seems appealing to you, aim for it in the workshop and royale deals, and don't change your hangar unless it's absolutely necessary to adapt in the new meta.
Be aware. Seek information. Plan accordingly.
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Nov 5, 2018 11:29:31 GMT -5
Post by PixelPower6 on Nov 5, 2018 11:29:31 GMT -5
Ah... You don't.
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Nov 6, 2018 1:10:26 GMT -5
Post by hyderier on Nov 6, 2018 1:10:26 GMT -5
What new content? There's no new content, except maps of course. New maps are cool, so you should be happy about it.
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Nov 6, 2018 1:54:17 GMT -5
Post by AcuityAxiom on Nov 6, 2018 1:54:17 GMT -5
What new content? There's no new content, except maps of course. New maps are cool, so you should be happy about it. Greek bots: S O O N
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Post by elttaes on Nov 6, 2018 6:02:40 GMT -5
Usually "the last meta" works for quite a while, at least below the Champions league. Example: Dash bots are still doing great in Gold league and pretty good in Diamond. Inquisitor is still quite strong as well, and Lancelots are pretty powerful once again. (I'm not saying that it's a cycle, but the good stuff will still be pretty good for quite a while. At lower leagues, they'll be really good for a long time.)
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 6, 2018 8:21:39 GMT -5
Use the weekly Skirmishes as your test drive to help you decide what you want. Don't keep chasing the new stuff. Do your research and determine what weapons work for your playstyle. Weapons will last you longer than bots so choose your weapons carefully. Heck, I'm 70 components away from an Invader yet I feel no urge to finish it off. I know I'll get to it eventually and it'll likely slot into my ambush hangar, but I've been quite happy with my line up these days.
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Occasionally lucky
Destrier
I may be eating a clover now.... but your next ;)
Posts: 72
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Pilot name: Darkness72936
Platform: iOS
Clan: None for now
League: Expert
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Pursuer with gusts
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Nov 18, 2018 20:26:00 GMT -5
Post by Occasionally lucky on Nov 18, 2018 20:26:00 GMT -5
I’d be happy if they made the maps look better and add a few, maybe some other stuff around the map you could interact with that be interesting
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Post by moody on Nov 19, 2018 1:27:40 GMT -5
Usually "the last meta" works for quite a while, at least below the Champions league. Example: Dash bots are still doing great in Gold league and pretty good in Diamond. Inquisitor is still quite strong as well, and Lancelots are pretty powerful once again. (I'm not saying that it's a cycle, but the good stuff will still be pretty good for quite a while. At lower leagues, they'll be really good for a long time.) Bloody hell. The two bigger dash bots, inquisitors and lancelots are all still good in Master 1 - champion. They aren't meta, but they aren't rubbish either. Punisher griffs do well in gold-diamond league - if you need dash bots and inquisitors you need more practice.
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Post by rbarthle17 on Nov 19, 2018 8:10:00 GMT -5
Find what you like to play and suits your play style. Not every bot is for everyone. There is no one super bot. All of them can be beaten. And all of them can beat someone else.
I run a hangar of bulwarks and a hangar of pattons. I do just fine on masters level. It works for me. I enjoy the game. And isn't that what's most important?
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Nov 19, 2018 23:41:32 GMT -5
Post by ystava on Nov 19, 2018 23:41:32 GMT -5
How would you deal with the constant updates and newer bots? Pix usually pops out a new line of bots and weapons right when I usually start to get something like a inquistador, so it seems that I’m always behind bot wise. the weapons are reletively constant but change with the bots. My hangar is a kumi, haech,bulg, inquisitor,fury. I am armed with orkans, tarans, storms, scourges, flux, and avenger I average 800k and 5 kills a game. So I don't rush into new stuff. My single hanger is ready for all tasks.
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Post by schrotter on Nov 20, 2018 3:13:14 GMT -5
How would you deal with the constant updates and newer bots? Pix usually pops out a new line of bots and weapons right when I usually start to get something like a inquistador, so it seems that I’m always behind bot wise. the weapons are reletively constant but change with the bots. The answer is: You don’t. ;-) I am actually kind of serious. Consider three facts: 1) Pixo is releasing new gear at (such high) rates that make it impossible to always have the latest and greatest without spending 100s of $. 2) Also buffs/nerfs are a regular thing. I know that the recent “Rebalancing” campaign by Pixo made the latest round of adjustments look like a one time special. But less than a year ago adjustments were made with every release. What I am saying is that today’s meta is going to be tomorrow’s normal. 3) Pixo typically does NOT (despite all the wailing on the forum by members such as me) render gear obsolete with nerfs or new OP gear. In fact, Shocktrains, Orkans, Tarans still kill, well-piloted Kumihos can still dominate, and weapons like Tulumbas which once could be acquired with mere silver now even seem to become the new Spectre meta. So follow @aaarrggghhh s advice and find out which setups are universally used. Then consider your preferred play style before settling on your personal setup. Once you are happy with your setup, stop listening to Pixo marketing. Ignore release announcements and focus on honing your skills and leveling your hangar to L12 MK1 (forget MK2, another of Pixo’s money grabs). Be especially consistent in getting your weapons leveled - you’ll thank me later. And always remember: every time you buy new bots or setups (which sometimes can’t be avoided) will only prolong the time your hangar keeps lingering at mediocre levels.
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Post by thorloki on Dec 8, 2018 15:15:35 GMT -5
If you really want to keep up... play for hours using key boosters to open as many gold chests as you can... Get to the Superchest... Use honor point boosters to open as many league crates as you can for tokens and the Royale.
I'm far behind because I ignored the Royale and Black Market from last year to October 2018, and I don't think I was producing any comps in the WS either when it became 2.0 in August. I just played matches and upgraded what I already had.
I really don't want new stuff until after the stats are tweaked and there is a "final version". Unfortunately, every time Champs exploit stuff, things are tweaked again, like Orkans because of Spectre having 4 slots... Spectre was meant to be a mid-range bot. Orkan had a "final version" in update 2.9.0/2.9.3 until update 4.3.
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Post by erik1 on Dec 8, 2018 15:58:52 GMT -5
I'm a Steam player here, so I don't know how fierce the competition is on iOS
Unless you really, really want to be in the League of Legends, you can be a champion and stay competent with any "reasonable" level 12 bots and level 12 weapons (so, no, level 12 Destriers with level 12 Punishers won't get you very far). I see Champions -- Champions -- using Lancelots, Inquisitors, Kumihos, Pursuers, you name it... and many of these robots are lower than level 12, let alone they are not Mk2.
As everyone has said, find what fits your play-style and stick to it. When you find a play-style you like, don't look at the enemy and think "Oh, I should have gotten that robot instead." Work instead on how to cope with the enemy or, better yet, take advantage of their weaknesses (Spectres have low hit-points, Haechis are weak to energy weapons, Pursuers can hug Tarancilots...) Take your hanger and master it -- in the end it's all about skill
Also, TEAMWORK is the key. Once I got into diamond I made almost no progress until I learned to pair up with other robots as much as possible rather than doing my own thing. I'm still in diamond but seeing a very noticeable change in how fast I'm moving up
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Dec 9, 2018 18:49:13 GMT -5
Post by moody on Dec 9, 2018 18:49:13 GMT -5
I'm a Steam player here, so I don't know how fierce the competition is on iOS Unless you really, really want to be in the League of Legends, you can be a champion and stay competent with any "reasonable" level 12 bots and level 12 weapons (so, no, level 12 Destriers with level 12 Punishers won't get you very far). I see Champions -- Champions -- using Lancelots, Inquisitors, Kumihos, Pursuers, you name it... and many of these robots are lower than level 12, let alone they are not Mk2. As everyone has said, find what fits your play-style and stick to it. When you find a play-style you like, don't look at the enemy and think "Oh, I should have gotten that robot instead." Work instead on how to cope with the enemy or, better yet, take advantage of their weaknesses (Spectres have low hit-points, Haechis are weak to energy weapons, Pursuers can hug Tarancilots...) Take your hanger and master it -- in the end it's all about skill Also, TEAMWORK is the key. Once I got into diamond I made almost no progress until I learned to pair up with other robots as much as possible rather than doing my own thing. I'm still in diamond but seeing a very noticeable change in how fast I'm moving up Champion while tough in steam - is not the same as champion in IOS / Android. You will still need level 10-11 bots and weapons for most players and a lot of 12 mk2
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Dec 9, 2018 19:16:30 GMT -5
Post by erik1 on Dec 9, 2018 19:16:30 GMT -5
I'm a Steam player here, so I don't know how fierce the competition is on iOS Unless you really, really want to be in the League of Legends, you can be a champion and stay competent with any "reasonable" level 12 bots and level 12 weapons (so, no, level 12 Destriers with level 12 Punishers won't get you very far). I see Champions -- Champions -- using Lancelots, Inquisitors, Kumihos, Pursuers, you name it... and many of these robots are lower than level 12, let alone they are not Mk2. As everyone has said, find what fits your play-style and stick to it. When you find a play-style you like, don't look at the enemy and think "Oh, I should have gotten that robot instead." Work instead on how to cope with the enemy or, better yet, take advantage of their weaknesses (Spectres have low hit-points, Haechis are weak to energy weapons, Pursuers can hug Tarancilots...) Take your hanger and master it -- in the end it's all about skill Also, TEAMWORK is the key. Once I got into diamond I made almost no progress until I learned to pair up with other robots as much as possible rather than doing my own thing. I'm still in diamond but seeing a very noticeable change in how fast I'm moving up Champion while tough in steam - is not the same as champion in IOS / Android. You will still need level 10-11 bots and weapons for most players and a lot of 12 mk2 Ah, I see. A curiosity question - in the IOS / Android championship league, can you get away with level 12 bulgasaris / kumihos / etc. with mk2 orkans / sparks, etc.?? Or do most people find that they have to have the newest bots and equipment if they want to stay in the Championship league?
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Dec 9, 2018 19:26:40 GMT -5
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Post by ѕραяяσωнαωк on Dec 9, 2018 19:26:40 GMT -5
Yeah, while most legends on pc servers have decent bots, many are not completely leveled. I believe that this is mostly because it is much more dependent on skill on pc servers than higher leveled bots, and also having no ads. While the mobile players may argue, I believe the skill ceiling on a pc server is much higher than on a mobile device, since you have more control over your bots. Take this week’s skirmish as an example. When playing on pc, it is a lot easier to hit people when either they or you are flying around, and so winning relies on more strategy.
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Dec 9, 2018 19:30:38 GMT -5
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Post by BossieBos on Dec 9, 2018 19:30:38 GMT -5
Champion while tough in steam - is not the same as champion in IOS / Android. You will still need level 10-11 bots and weapons for most players and a lot of 12 mk2 Ah, I see. A curiosity question - in the IOS / Android championship league, can you get away with level 12 bulgasaris / kumihos / etc. with mk2 orkans / sparks, etc.?? Or do most people find that they have to have the newest bots and equipment if they want to stay in the Championship league? Doing fine with an MK 1 lvl 12 hangar here. Inquisitor, Bulgasari, Haechi, Spectre and Pursuer in my main hangar.
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Post by moody on Dec 9, 2018 19:39:53 GMT -5
Champion while tough in steam - is not the same as champion in IOS / Android. You will still need level 10-11 bots and weapons for most players and a lot of 12 mk2 Ah, I see. A curiosity question - in the IOS / Android championship league, can you get away with level 12 bulgasaris / kumihos / etc. with mk2 orkans / sparks, etc.?? Or do most people find that they have to have the newest bots and equipment if they want to stay in the Championship league? I have about level 10 bots with level 11-12 weapons. (no mk 2). I am bouncing between master one and champion every week or so. I definitely don't have all new bots weapons (fury, 2 haechi, inquisitor and spectre). I think if I had a 'meta' hangar with level 12mk1 I would be able to stay in champion fine.
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Post by inspirace on Dec 9, 2018 20:07:13 GMT -5
Champion while tough in steam - is not the same as champion in IOS / Android. You will still need level 10-11 bots and weapons for most players and a lot of 12 mk2 Ah, I see. A curiosity question - in the IOS / Android championship league, can you get away with level 12 bulgasaris / kumihos / etc. with mk2 orkans / sparks, etc.?? Or do most people find that they have to have the newest bots and equipment if they want to stay in the Championship league? Doing fine on iOS with level11.3 hangars (plus free boosters) - the two hangars I actually use: I’m pretty sure there are people with even lower level gears in Champion@iOS,
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Dec 9, 2018 22:26:02 GMT -5
Post by ezekielcrow on Dec 9, 2018 22:26:02 GMT -5
Try to imagine your hangar as a toolbox with different tools. Brawling, indirect fire, splash, mid/long range, mobility etc. Try to choose the best mech/loadout combo to represent these needs. Set a goal not to level them too high and try to get as far as you can at your given levels. Finally evaluate each new release in terms of what they can do for your toolbox. Do they combine capabilities? Do they better represent the chosen capability or do they just add fluff with effects that you can duplicate by altering your play style? A lot of the new bots actually encourage more sloppy play...largely why my four dashbots sit in storage. Finally, check the overall environment. Will getting any of the new stuff add to the ability of your hangar to deal with the new threats or is it just a matter of adjusting play styles? For example. Haechi is quite easily brought down with sequential fire rather than all at once.
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Dec 10, 2018 7:35:37 GMT -5
Post by wildboar on Dec 10, 2018 7:35:37 GMT -5
I buy with earned resources the latest of what I want ... workshop etc... I play them under-leveled ... playing a L1 Bulwark shows you how you need to play it ... yeah it's a drain on your hangar in terms of punch but eventually as it levels up it becomes easier to play ... I couldn't sit with a shiny Bulwark in the hangar and not use it because it was "only level 5" I have just earned a Mercury ... it's pretty weak at the mo' but it takes time to master any of these bots with an ability ... especially an ability you have not used before. It also teaches you counters for various bots Trying now to purchase a Mender (and or a Hell burner as the deals drop)... greek bots are wayyyyyy off in the future Hey I know I will lose some ... I will win some ... I just don't get my panties in a twist over it I am F2P and in terms of META /ex META I have : Inquisitor , Kumiho , Hover , Haechi , Bulgasari, Pursuer, Strider, Bulwark , Mercury, Fury , Lancelot , Galahad , Gareth , etc I have the same attitude to weps Save for a wep ... I use it under-leveled ... My stock hangar has some L11 stuff but is is mostly L7ish but there again . see my "I'm broke" thread (now 10M Ag & 1700 Au)
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 11, 2018 20:34:07 GMT -5
Champion while tough in steam - is not the same as champion in IOS / Android. You will still need level 10-11 bots and weapons for most players and a lot of 12 mk2 Ah, I see. A curiosity question - in the IOS / Android championship league, can you get away with level 12 bulgasaris / kumihos / etc. with mk2 orkans / sparks, etc.?? Or do most people find that they have to have the newest bots and equipment if they want to stay in the Championship league? I am finding this hanger very effective in champs iOS. Bulgasari 12 could replace the falcon and/or Bulwark, a well piloted Kumiho could replace the pursuer. The name of the game for champs is damage damage damage. Win or lose, take down as many as you can before you go. Oh, and y ou know about beacons, right? Lol. Grab a beacon or two with a fast bot then...Give them nothing, but take from them everything! (The Movie 300, I think)
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Post by shad3z on Dec 12, 2018 7:06:45 GMT -5
How would you deal with the constant updates and newer bots? Pix usually pops out a new line of bots and weapons right when I usually start to get something like a inquistador, so it seems that I’m always behind bot wise. the weapons are reletively constant but change with the bots. Not... Ride that hanger you love to perfection and save up. Chances are that you will save enough resources to get a bot much more easily/cheaply 2-3 months. By that time you will be sure what bot you really want and if it can last in the game. Learned this the hard way getting a Weyland too early...
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