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Post by Stapleton on Oct 30, 2018 4:39:13 GMT -5
I feel like Bulwarks are unreasonably OP. Because scoring in this game is all about damage, not only are they largely invincible but you see most players ignoring them entirely to focus on targets that will register the damage.
Pix really should include damage to a Bulwark shield in the overall damage score to combat this. If they can manage a mechanic to register healing as damage they can manage this.
So wee rant aside, for those of you that already run one, is it worth the 30,750,000 AG it will take me to manufacture one in the workshop?
Is there some massive drawback that i'm not getting or will I be able to stomp about, picking off the puny humans at my leisure like I imagine in my head?
Also, besides teaming up and focussing fire is there any strategy people would suggest to tackle them?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 4:59:56 GMT -5
It is worth the time and silver.
I have one at lvl 9 with avengers lvl 8 and 9, and running it without any drawbacks in android master. If i compare it to other gear at that level, then you're spot on, Bulwark is OP.
It is a tank, but it is far from invincible as you put it. Aegis, though it is very strong, it's pretty tricky to use because unlike the Ancile it regenerates only when it's turned off. It will keep Bulwark alive for a very long time when you learn to combine cover/exposure with Bulwarks unique properties. On the further notice, IMO, Bulwark isn't a close range fighter due to it's extra large profile and low speed, and if an agile knife figher gets you with your guard down, you'll have very limited options. Same goes for quad orks, they will simply melt you in your tracks. The most popular Bulwark setup is with Dragoons, and there's a good reason for it. I use Avengers, and i do like it a lot.
IMO there are no massive drawbacks with Bulwark, you simply have to outsmart, outmaneuver or outgun the Bulwark pilot.
p.s. hello Badgers, i have just an awesome game with Sky Woman on my team.
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Post by Stapleton on Oct 30, 2018 6:29:19 GMT -5
It is worth the time and silver. I have one at lvl 9 with avengers lvl 8 and 9, and running it without any drawbacks in android master. If i compare it to other gear at that level, then you're spot on, Bulwark is OP. It is a tank, but it is far from invincible as you put it. Aegis, though it is very strong, it's pretty tricky to use because unlike the Ancile it regenerates only when it's turned off. It will keep Bulwark alive for a very long time when you learn to combine cover/exposure with Bulwarks unique properties. On the further notice, IMO, Bulwark isn't a close range fighter due to it's extra large profile and low speed, and if an agile knife figher gets you with your guard down, you'll have very limited options. Same goes for quad orks, they will simply melt you in your tracks. The most popular Bulwark setup is with Dragoons, and there's a good reason for it. I use Avengers, and i do like it a lot. IMO there are no massive drawbacks with Bulwark, you simply have to outsmart, outmaneuver or outgun the Bulwark pilot. p.s. hello Badgers, i have just an awesome game with Sky Woman on my team. Noted, I already have the two dragoons so will start working towards it. Sky Woman is our clan leader now, if you fancy joining the fold. We are probably about the best clan on Android to be honest  |
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Oct 30, 2018 6:47:17 GMT -5
Aegis shield disappears surprisingly fast, so you really need to pay attention and time your ability. 2 Heavies is only moderate firepower these days, which is the biggest drawback; you're relying primarily on your durability. And yes, unless you're maxed and boosted, an Orkan Spectre will rip you a new one. Far from invincible, but definitely an impressive Bot. P.s. Leave the Dragoons to the Carnages and Furys. Put Redeemers on that sucker and fight like a man  |
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Post by Stapleton on Oct 30, 2018 8:43:57 GMT -5
Aegis shield disappears surprisingly fast, so you really need to pay attention and time your ability. 2 Heavies is only moderate firepower these days, which is the biggest drawback; you're relying primarily on your durability. And yes, unless you're maxed and boosted, an Orkan Spectre will rip you a new one. Far from invincible, but definitely an impressive Bot. P.s. Leave the Dragoons to the Carnages and Furys. Put Redeemers on that sucker and fight like a man Don't got no 'deemers son. Dragoons's all I know. . . . . Also I'm only technically a man. My courage level was recently recorded as a minus number. I have 2 zenits ready to keep the paint on my new bulwark in good condition when I do get it. |
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Post by Rhuwme on Oct 30, 2018 11:12:06 GMT -5
I'm working on getting a Bulwark now, Stapleton. Either Dragoons or Avengers will be going on mine. As for learning to pilot it effectively, I work on that in the test server whenever I can.
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Post by Joopiter on Oct 30, 2018 11:41:24 GMT -5
Mine is level 11 with level 10 exodus and it's far from invincible versus top tier players. Hell, if i run into a smart player they'll deplete my aegis with little to no effort taking it quickly out of the equation. The only real opponents that don't have a lot of options encountering a bulwark are energy users that are slower than the bulwark. The physical shield, plus aegis, plus hp is a lot of barriers to go through if you're attacking from the front with tarans, etc.
Where a bulwark get's to be pretty OP is on bigger maps with dragoons. I don't run this set up just because you can stay in the bot for the entire match if played well.
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Post by ystava on Oct 31, 2018 10:56:22 GMT -5
I feel like Bulwarks are unreasonably OP. Because scoring in this game is all about damage, not only are they largely invincible but you see most players ignoring them entirely to focus on targets that will register the damage. Pix really should include damage to a Bulwark shield in the overall damage score to combat this. If they can manage a mechanic to register healing as damage they can manage this. So wee rant aside, for those of you that already run one, is it worth the 30,750,000 AG it will take me to manufacture one in the workshop? Is there some massive drawback that i'm not getting or will I be able to stomp about, picking off the puny humans at my leisure like I imagine in my head? Also, besides teaming up and focussing fire is there any strategy people would suggest to tackle them? Bulwarks in my experience are often great for the pilot and bad for the team... unless your pilot is a lot smarter than most of the ones driving those things. As a mid ranger the Dragoon meta just isn't very good at taking beacons. They require coordinated attacks to remove. Usually involving Tulus and good sniper in the wings waiting for that energy shield to fall. I am building one with Avenger/Glory to possibly replace my Bulg/Scourge... I think he'll wind up being pretty stompy. |
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Post by wildboar on Oct 31, 2018 11:04:23 GMT -5
I have a L7 Bulwark - it is far from invincible
I am shocked how quickly the aegis drops sometimes
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Post by ironstar on Oct 31, 2018 11:54:03 GMT -5
A clan mate of mine runs one mk2 with Redeemers as a brawler and that thing is a freaking tank.
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Oct 31, 2018 14:03:32 GMT -5
A clan mate of mine runs one mk2 with Redeemers as a brawler and that thing is a freaking tank. So many people underestimate Redeemers because of their RoF, but they deal serious damage. I have 9/9 Redeemers on a level 6 Bulwark in Expert I. I take down level 10/11/12 Haechis and Bulgs on a regular basis, although if they're carrying a full load of high level Orkans I can be in trouble. |
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Post by HarvesterOsorrow on Oct 31, 2018 22:28:38 GMT -5
The speed buff it got with the recent update removed its only real weakness. Definitely worth getting.
I’m currently running a mk1 12 goon and mk1 12 Redeemer. Originally planned to do that while I level my second goon. I have to say it runs really well as is. If I get in brawling range the redeemer is outstanding. If it’s mid range the goon works well. I don’t think two redeemers is the way to go as the orkans can take it down too fast to go full brawler. But if you can avoid sporkans and the like it’s a beast.
You have to get good at managing the shields and knowing when to switch. If you are facing pure energy and frontal only switch to physical and recharge the aegis for the next rocket attack etc. Far from invincible so gotta pilot it well but it has some great options and strengths. Especially since it’s not so dang slow anymore
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Post by jonnya on Nov 1, 2018 7:54:44 GMT -5
Bulwark is an awesome robot and probably the easiest bot to pilot. Double avengers unload on target then retreat behind cover and reload ammo and shield repeat!
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Post by ARTEMIS on Nov 1, 2018 10:33:56 GMT -5
Gotta use the Aegis wisely. And yes, I mid-range with dragoons but it only works well on long maps. For some reason, canyon is ideal. No, not a great beacon grabber and CANNOT brawl with so many rockets around, but I love it. I love to absorb those shocktrain hits.....
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Post by PixelPower6 on Nov 1, 2018 10:35:42 GMT -5
eeeeh, well I don't know about OP, but is certainly powerful.
I mean, you are complaining about this, and just wave off all the other things?
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