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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Oct 23, 2018 4:57:12 GMT -5
Yup. You read the title correctly. This isn't a joke thread. Like most threads I make. Well. Time to post the hangar.  If you are thinking the following line : "but wait there is a level 5 kumiho there. Shouldn't THAT be the weakest bot?" Well you are kinda correct, I think... I decided to finally bust out my kumiho that I finished in September. It does its job correctly. One of the problems I have with the bulgasari is that I don't know what role it fits: Falcon - tank / shield buster at mid range Hover - beacon capper / stealth counter Raven - blinker( emergency beacon capper) / orkan buster Kumiho - beacon capper / starting bot Bulgasari - tank? Nah. Dps bot? Only at 0 meters. Beacon capper? Not by a long shot. Mid-Ranger? Nah. The falcon is a better mid ranger. The second problem. It cannot beat most bots 1v1. For some reason the orkan mid-league meta is still there. My Bulga can't even crack a lance open. The third problem. It can't have close range exclusive weapons. You might be wondering :" Why though? Bulga can run any weapon and they will be effective." That statement is correct for all but 3 weapons. Those are orkans storms and coronas . I can't run those since the orkans get through the Bulga way too fast. The fourth problem: My bulgasari got merged all the way around in the major balance update. Hp? Heck no it is about a griffin. Shield? It is like a Gareth now. Speed? It is like a bulgasari. Scourges? They got nerfed. The oddball is that in September it was my best bot. But now. He just trash. I appreciate all kinds of advice other than "go commit use stealth bots". Case closed waiting for feedback |
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Post by jonnya on Oct 23, 2018 5:24:01 GMT -5
Sorry I respectfully disagree , I feel a Bulgasari armed with scourges is as good 1v1 as any bot. Just turn slightly to the side and open fire, use your dashes to evade orkan fire.
Great all round bot!
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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Oct 23, 2018 5:25:44 GMT -5
Sorry I respectfully disagree , I feel a Bulgasari armed with scourges is as good 1v1 as any bot. Just turn slightly to the side and open fire, use your dashes to evade orkan fire. Great all round bot! Orkan griffins still eat me. The shield is very weak now. And i cant bother to upgrade the bulga to its former glory from september |
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Post by jonnya on Oct 23, 2018 5:29:13 GMT -5
Maybe upgrade those scourges , then if you decide to ditch the bulg you can transfer them.
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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Oct 23, 2018 5:31:15 GMT -5
Maybe upgrade those scourges , then if you decide to ditch the bulg you can transfer them. But what can run scourges better than bulg? Oh yeah spectre. That is a big no no. Haechi? Nah it trash. Other bots? Forgettable. |
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Post by jonnya on Oct 23, 2018 5:49:12 GMT -5
Griffin two scourges and two sparks to name one
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 6:01:06 GMT -5
hmmm interesting thread. I have been running Bulgi a long time, used all kinds of weapons on it, but most of all i liked Orkans. After the last nerf to Bulgi and to Orks i felt it was way underpowered... I was considering shelving it, but then, out of nowhere, i decided to give Tarans another shot. And guess what, it's amazing! Sure, you have to take good care of it, sure, you have to perfect your corner shooting, but those hardpoint locations are just too good not to be used when you know how to corner shoot. Those two highest can shoot above some pretty high obstacles also. If you have dash saved, db setups are no problem at all, you just need to know in what direction to withdraw and stay away from db range. Taran bug fix also helped a lot, as i remember how Tarans were back then, it's like i'm doing 50% more damage. So i think Taran Bulgi is worth trying out. Anyways, here is my current hangar. While i do get most kills with Merc, with Bulgi i really can engage larger packs of reds and inflict some serious hurt on them. I do share your attitude towards Haechi, i really don't know what to do with that guy anymore, nerf got to him pretty badly...  |
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Post by eco on Oct 23, 2018 6:06:28 GMT -5
Bulg is vulnerable against rockets. Avoid orkans and tulumbas. Orkans you can out range.
Bulg counters everything energy. You can take out that sniper or travel a passage while your shield protects you. You should be able to take out a lance taran. But your levels are generally very low if you face a high level taran you breake easily. But this is with every bot.
Don't know if you use your shield to block fire while you shoot back? With the scourge you can corner shoot while your body is protected. You can fire with one or two scourges like this. Put your strongest to the right weapon slot.
The scourges have imense fireoower when you are sub 300m and you can do good enough damage below 500m.thats a unique feature. Take it slow peak that bot at a distance slowly close in. When thr tarans reload double dash and finish.
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Post by Koalabear on Oct 23, 2018 7:03:15 GMT -5
If you're trying to figure out the role of the Scourge Bulg, in mine, it's my last bot I drop in my big map hangar and I run it as a multirole fighter. You're right about it's utility going down due to the nerfs, but it's still pretty strong and useful
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Post by Fanghorn on Oct 23, 2018 8:28:41 GMT -5
Maybe upgrade those scourges , then if you decide to ditch the bulg you can transfer them. But what can run scourges better than bulg? Oh yeah spectre. That is a big no no. Haechi? Nah it trash. Other bots? Forgettable. Put your Scourges on your Hover along with a Spark and try Tarans on the Bulg. |
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Post by non4me on Oct 23, 2018 9:36:31 GMT -5
hmmm interesting thread. I have been running Bulgi a long time, used all kinds of weapons on it, but most of all i liked Orkans. After the last nerf to Bulgi and to Orks i felt it was way underpowered... I was considering shelving it, but then, out of nowhere, i decided to give Tarans another shot. And guess what, it's amazing! Sure, you have to take good care of it, sure, you have to perfect your corner shooting, but those hardpoint locations are just too good not to be used when you know how to corner shoot. Those two highest can shoot above some pretty high obstacles also. If you have dash saved, db setups are no problem at all, you just need to know in what direction to withdraw and stay away from db range. Taran bug fix also helped a lot, as i remember how Tarans were back then, it's like i'm doing 50% more damage. So i think Taran Bulgi is worth trying out. Anyways, here is my current hangar. While i do get most kills with Merc, with Bulgi i really can engage larger packs of reds and inflict some serious hurt on them. I do share your attitude towards Haechi, i really don't know what to do with that guy anymore, nerf got to him pretty badly... I too have tried numerous builds on bulg. It's NE so I'm keeping it at level 10. I tried scourges 2 lvl 12, 1 lvl 9 and just couldn't mileage out of it. I tended to stay back and just couldn't get significant damage. When I brawled, it died before I could finish off anything. Tried Tarans and just had a hard time seeing the target. Yeah, I could line up the cross-hairs but it just wasn't comfortable and I had to face the target and usually got a face full of crap. I've pretty much gone with Orks and they have worked pretty good for me. I play it more cautiously but can generally get 1 - 3 kills with it. But that's just me. I've seen some remarkable play from other pilots using Tarans and Scourges but my play style (or lack of) finds the Orks the best. |
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Post by rags on Oct 23, 2018 11:12:49 GMT -5
hmmm interesting thread. I have been running Bulgi a long time, used all kinds of weapons on it, but most of all i liked Orkans. After the last nerf to Bulgi and to Orks i felt it was way underpowered... I was considering shelving it, but then, out of nowhere, i decided to give Tarans another shot. And guess what, it's amazing! Sure, you have to take good care of it, sure, you have to perfect your corner shooting, but those hardpoint locations are just too good not to be used when you know how to corner shoot. Those two highest can shoot above some pretty high obstacles also. If you have dash saved, db setups are no problem at all, you just need to know in what direction to withdraw and stay away from db range. Taran bug fix also helped a lot, as i remember how Tarans were back then, it's like i'm doing 50% more damage. So i think Taran Bulgi is worth trying out. Anyways, here is my current hangar. While i do get most kills with Merc, with Bulgi i really can engage larger packs of reds and inflict some serious hurt on them. I do share your attitude towards Haechi, i really don't know what to do with that guy anymore, nerf got to him pretty badly... that’s funny, I did the opposite. running taran haechi and ork bulg now. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 12:12:41 GMT -5
I guess I couldn't handle ork bulgi anymore, things got pretty hairy in kf recently, and orks got seriously balanced imo... I really don't want to shelve the bulgi... I guess when playing with tarans become overwhelming for me, I'll swap to tulus or puns for more range.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 12:30:50 GMT -5
Hover - beacon capper / stealth counter Better is to accompany behind your cappers and flank the reds they engage with.
Tarans are (very) weak on the Hover, Scourge is better, as in way better.
Put your Tarans on Bulgi and get experience with the build.
To illustrate, see the videos linked in my sig. Good luck.
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Post by no pain 80 on Oct 23, 2018 13:40:39 GMT -5
Yup. You read the title correctly. This isn't a joke thread. Like most threads I make. Well. Time to post the hangar. If you are thinking the following line : "but wait there is a level 5 kumiho there. Shouldn't THAT be the weakest bot?" Well you are kinda correct, I think... I decided to finally bust out my kumiho that I finished in September. It does its job correctly. One of the problems I have with the bulgasari is that I don't know what role it fits: Falcon - tank / shield buster at mid range Hover - beacon capper / stealth counter Raven - blinker( emergency beacon capper) / orkan buster Kumiho - beacon capper / starting bot Bulgasari - tank? Nah. Dps bot? Only at 0 meters. Beacon capper? Not by a long shot. Mid-Ranger? Nah. The falcon is a better mid ranger. The second problem. It cannot beat most bots 1v1. For some reason the orkan mid-league meta is still there. My Bulga can't even crack a lance open. The third problem. It can't have close range exclusive weapons. You might be wondering :" Why though? Bulga can run any weapon and they will be effective." That statement is correct for all but 3 weapons. Those are orkans storms and coronas . I can't run those since the orkans get through the Bulga way too fast. The fourth problem: My bulgasari got merged all the way around in the major balance update. Hp? Heck no it is about a griffin. Shield? It is like a Gareth now. Speed? It is like a bulgasari. Scourges? They got nerfed. The oddball is that in September it was my best bot. But now. He just trash. I appreciate all kinds of advice other than "go commit use stealth bots". Case closed waiting for feedbacknothing wrong with this build, maybe it just doesnt fit to your playstyle nothing wrong with its build, but it just doesnt fit to your playstyle |
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Oct 23, 2018 14:37:34 GMT -5
Yup. You read the title correctly. This isn't a joke thread. Like most threads I make. Well. Time to post the hangar. If you are thinking the following line : "but wait there is a level 5 kumiho there. Shouldn't THAT be the weakest bot?" Well you are kinda correct, I think... I decided to finally bust out my kumiho that I finished in September. It does its job correctly. One of the problems I have with the bulgasari is that I don't know what role it fits: Falcon - tank / shield buster at mid range Hover - beacon capper / stealth counter Raven - blinker( emergency beacon capper) / orkan buster Kumiho - beacon capper / starting bot Bulgasari - tank? Nah. Dps bot? Only at 0 meters. Beacon capper? Not by a long shot. Mid-Ranger? Nah. The falcon is a better mid ranger. The second problem. It cannot beat most bots 1v1. For some reason the orkan mid-league meta is still there. My Bulga can't even crack a lance open. The third problem. It can't have close range exclusive weapons. You might be wondering :" Why though? Bulga can run any weapon and they will be effective." That statement is correct for all but 3 weapons. Those are orkans storms and coronas . I can't run those since the orkans get through the Bulga way too fast. The fourth problem: My bulgasari got merged all the way around in the major balance update. Hp? Heck no it is about a griffin. Shield? It is like a Gareth now. Speed? It is like a bulgasari. Scourges? They got nerfed. The oddball is that in September it was my best bot. But now. He just trash. I appreciate all kinds of advice other than "go commit use stealth bots". Case closed waiting for feedback 1. Bulgasari is a mid range bot or short range with tarans. Right now I’m running storms and it does just okay, but then again I know how to run it and survive sometimes. 2. It’s because you’re doing it all wrong. You want to know how to crack a lancelot? Scroll to 4:44 of this video. I did that with no fancy smancy teleporting dash bots. Just good ol fashioned skill 3. Well then don’t get hit by orkans lol, you gotta know see them rockets before you turn a corner and always have an exit strategy. As I said before, I’m running storms, a 100m weapon and I do make it work. 4. If you don’t like scourge, try punishers. Lots of dps at the +350m range and super short new upgrade times. Can also hit bots in stealth. I liked hydra too, but that really only was good for a dedicated long range hangar. And only for trolling tempests, trebuchets, and flux (post 4.3) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2018 14:58:05 GMT -5
I suggest two things that make for a much stronger Bulg piloting experience:
1) Do not use your dashes for moving around more quickly. Those two dashes are ejection seats, not NOS for your slow purple truck. When you find yourself in an Orkan fight, you hit the dash. To cover. Side to side. Or straight backwards. Once the Orkans are empty, you can melt face or just leave the engagement for a blue haechi to deal with.
2) Against plasma, use target lock to lock onto the red. Then rotate your shield to block his shots. Then melt him.
Scourge Bulg is very well rounded build that is commonly used in champions league. Happy hunting.
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Post by orionpax on Oct 23, 2018 19:33:16 GMT -5
hmmm interesting thread. I have been running Bulgi a long time, used all kinds of weapons on it, but most of all i liked Orkans. After the last nerf to Bulgi and to Orks i felt it was way underpowered... I was considering shelving it, but then, out of nowhere, i decided to give Tarans another shot. And guess what, it's amazing! Sure, you have to take good care of it, sure, you have to perfect your corner shooting, but those hardpoint locations are just too good not to be used when you know how to corner shoot. Those two highest can shoot above some pretty high obstacles also. If you have dash saved, db setups are no problem at all, you just need to know in what direction to withdraw and stay away from db range. Taran bug fix also helped a lot, as i remember how Tarans were back then, it's like i'm doing 50% more damage. So i think Taran Bulgi is worth trying out. Anyways, here is my current hangar. While i do get most kills with Merc, with Bulgi i really can engage larger packs of reds and inflict some serious hurt on them. I do share your attitude towards Haechi, i really don't know what to do with that guy anymore, nerf got to him pretty badly... I too have tried numerous builds on bulg. It's NE so I'm keeping it at level 10. I tried scourges 2 lvl 12, 1 lvl 9 and just couldn't mileage out of it. I tended to stay back and just couldn't get significant damage. When I brawled, it died before I could finish off anything. Tried Tarans and just had a hard time seeing the target. Yeah, I could line up the cross-hairs but it just wasn't comfortable and I had to face the target and usually got a face full of crap. I've pretty much gone with Orks and they have worked pretty good for me. I play it more cautiously but can generally get 1 - 3 kills with it. But that's just me. I've seen some remarkable play from other pilots using Tarans and Scourges but my play style (or lack of) finds the Orks the best. I have 2 bulgs collecting dust at the moment. I also tried everything and came to the scourges. They take time to master but when u do it's deadly. I have now put my scourges on A spec and haven't looked back. I also have 2 heachi in the garage. |
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Post by cheap on Oct 23, 2018 19:42:43 GMT -5
this is what i thought too when i played it, it seemed way to squishy. then i realized most opponents were Champ,Master league and MkII maxed.
kept playing my Bulg leveled it too 9 and eventually got better with it, then got bored with it due to its speed.
with time you will get better with it though.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Oct 23, 2018 19:49:09 GMT -5
Griffin two scourges and two sparks to name one Dude, what? Not over a bulg, not ever.
Bulg is still weak sauce now, need to replace my last one in my hangar.
So sad, I loved that bot.
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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Oct 24, 2018 1:06:49 GMT -5
I suggest two things that make for a much stronger Bulg piloting experience: 1) Do not use your dashes for moving around more quickly. Those two dashes are ejection seats, not NOS for your slow purple truck. When you find yourself in an Orkan fight, you hit the dash. To cover. Side to side. Or straight backwards. Once the Orkans are empty, you can melt face or just leave the engagement for a blue haechi to deal with. 2) Against plasma, use target lock to lock onto the red. Then rotate your shield to block his shots. Then melt him. Scourge Bulg is very well rounded build that is commonly used in champions league. Happy hunting. I was doing that crap back in September. And it worked. But now it just doesn't work |
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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Oct 24, 2018 1:17:39 GMT -5
Yup. You read the title correctly. This isn't a joke thread. Like most threads I make. Well. Time to post the hangar. If you are thinking the following line : "but wait there is a level 5 kumiho there. Shouldn't THAT be the weakest bot?" Well you are kinda correct, I think... I decided to finally bust out my kumiho that I finished in September. It does its job correctly. One of the problems I have with the bulgasari is that I don't know what role it fits: Falcon - tank / shield buster at mid range Hover - beacon capper / stealth counter Raven - blinker( emergency beacon capper) / orkan buster Kumiho - beacon capper / starting bot Bulgasari - tank? Nah. Dps bot? Only at 0 meters. Beacon capper? Not by a long shot. Mid-Ranger? Nah. The falcon is a better mid ranger. The second problem. It cannot beat most bots 1v1. For some reason the orkan mid-league meta is still there. My Bulga can't even crack a lance open. The third problem. It can't have close range exclusive weapons. You might be wondering :" Why though? Bulga can run any weapon and they will be effective." That statement is correct for all but 3 weapons. Those are orkans storms and coronas . I can't run those since the orkans get through the Bulga way too fast. The fourth problem: My bulgasari got merged all the way around in the major balance update. Hp? Heck no it is about a griffin. Shield? It is like a Gareth now. Speed? It is like a bulgasari. Scourges? They got nerfed. The oddball is that in September it was my best bot. But now. He just trash. I appreciate all kinds of advice other than "go commit use stealth bots". Case closed waiting for feedback 1. Bulgasari is a mid range bot or short range with tarans. Right now I’m running storms and it does just okay, but then again I know how to run it and survive sometimes. 2. It’s because you’re doing it all wrong. You want to know how to crack a lancelot? Scroll to 4:44 of this video. I did that with no fancy smancy teleporting dash bots. Just good ol fashioned skill 3. Well then don’t get hit by orkans lol, you gotta know see them rockets before you turn a corner and always have an exit strategy. As I said before, I’m running storms, a 100m weapon and I do make it work. 4. If you don’t like scourge, try punishers. Lots of dps at the +350m range and super short new upgrade times. Can also hit bots in stealth. I liked hydra too, but that really only was good for a dedicated long range hangar. And only for trolling tempests, trebuchets, and flux (post 4.3) 1 Well I can't argue with that 2 first up you are using orkans and that ancile is fairly unleveled but who cares if a lance has an ancile when he is standing in one place 3 when your favorite gamemode is Ffa but there is that one guy who keeps using the same orkan spectre over and over. The orkan Fire delay made the orkans a greater threat for faster bots. And the velocity of the spectre jump just adds to the pain. 4. Punishers? I can't afford to run a second physical dmg dealer as I already have a falcon avenger. And hydras? What are talking about. Those things are only somewhat good on Fujin and spectre? |
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Post by LeeVicky on Oct 25, 2018 10:27:22 GMT -5
Yup. You read the title correctly. This isn't a joke thread. Like most threads I make. Well. Time to post the hangar. If you are thinking the following line : "but wait there is a level 5 kumiho there. Shouldn't THAT be the weakest bot?" Well you are kinda correct, I think... I decided to finally bust out my kumiho that I finished in September. It does its job correctly. One of the problems I have with the bulgasari is that I don't know what role it fits: Falcon - tank / shield buster at mid range Hover - beacon capper / stealth counter Raven - blinker( emergency beacon capper) / orkan buster Kumiho - beacon capper / starting bot Bulgasari - tank? Nah. Dps bot? Only at 0 meters. Beacon capper? Not by a long shot. Mid-Ranger? Nah. The falcon is a better mid ranger. The second problem. It cannot beat most bots 1v1. For some reason the orkan mid-league meta is still there. My Bulga can't even crack a lance open. The third problem. It can't have close range exclusive weapons. You might be wondering :" Why though? Bulga can run any weapon and they will be effective." That statement is correct for all but 3 weapons. Those are orkans storms and coronas . I can't run those since the orkans get through the Bulga way too fast. The fourth problem: My bulgasari got merged all the way around in the major balance update. Hp? Heck no it is about a griffin. Shield? It is like a Gareth now. Speed? It is like a bulgasari. Scourges? They got nerfed. The oddball is that in September it was my best bot. But now. He just trash. I appreciate all kinds of advice other than "go commit use stealth bots". Case closed waiting for feedback Problem 1) Scourgasari is a dmg dealer, you can harass from far, annihilate from close Problem 2) Ambushes from gust Pursuers, orkan Spectres or strong midrangers (dragoon Fury/Bulwark) are a problem, the rest generally is not. Seriously, how can you lose to Griffin? Were you playing with your feet? Problem 3) Don't use other weapons, scourges are by far the best option for Bulgasari Problem 4) I don't think that was a very severe nerf, to me nothing really changed. Except now, you can't tank fire from half the opposing team. Play smarter. |
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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Oct 25, 2018 10:35:56 GMT -5
Yup. You read the title correctly. This isn't a joke thread. Like most threads I make. Well. Time to post the hangar. If you are thinking the following line : "but wait there is a level 5 kumiho there. Shouldn't THAT be the weakest bot?" Well you are kinda correct, I think... I decided to finally bust out my kumiho that I finished in September. It does its job correctly. One of the problems I have with the bulgasari is that I don't know what role it fits: Falcon - tank / shield buster at mid range Hover - beacon capper / stealth counter Raven - blinker( emergency beacon capper) / orkan buster Kumiho - beacon capper / starting bot Bulgasari - tank? Nah. Dps bot? Only at 0 meters. Beacon capper? Not by a long shot. Mid-Ranger? Nah. The falcon is a better mid ranger. The second problem. It cannot beat most bots 1v1. For some reason the orkan mid-league meta is still there. My Bulga can't even crack a lance open. The third problem. It can't have close range exclusive weapons. You might be wondering :" Why though? Bulga can run any weapon and they will be effective." That statement is correct for all but 3 weapons. Those are orkans storms and coronas . I can't run those since the orkans get through the Bulga way too fast. The fourth problem: My bulgasari got merged all the way around in the major balance update. Hp? Heck no it is about a griffin. Shield? It is like a Gareth now. Speed? It is like a bulgasari. Scourges? They got nerfed. The oddball is that in September it was my best bot. But now. He just trash. I appreciate all kinds of advice other than "go commit use stealth bots". Case closed waiting for feedback Problem 1) Scourgasari is a dmg dealer, you can harass from far, annihilate from close Problem 2) Ambushes from gust Pursuers, orkan Spectres or strong midrangers (dragoon Fury/Bulwark) are a problem, the rest generally is not. Seriously, how can you lose to Griffin? Were you playing with your feet? Problem 3) Don't use other weapons, scourges are by far the best option for Bulgasari Problem 4) I don't think that was a very severe nerf, to me nothing really changed. Except now, you can't tank fire from half the opposing team. Play smarter. If it is a griffin with anything but high leveled db i can kill it |
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Post by LeeVicky on Oct 25, 2018 10:42:54 GMT -5
Problem 1) Scourgasari is a dmg dealer, you can harass from far, annihilate from close Problem 2) Ambushes from gust Pursuers, orkan Spectres or strong midrangers (dragoon Fury/Bulwark) are a problem, the rest generally is not. Seriously, how can you lose to Griffin? Were you playing with your feet? Problem 3) Don't use other weapons, scourges are by far the best option for Bulgasari Problem 4) I don't think that was a very severe nerf, to me nothing really changed. Except now, you can't tank fire from half the opposing team. Play smarter. If it is a griffin with anything but high leveled db i can kill it If he's 200m or less when he surprise you, wait for him to start shooting, than dash side and again different side or dash toward him. If he's 250-300m from you double dash back. End of problem. But really, you shouldn't be in a situation when DB Griffin surprises you, it's one of the slowest bots in the game... |
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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Oct 25, 2018 11:37:04 GMT -5
If it is a griffin with anything but high leveled db i can kill it If he's 200m or less when he surprise you, wait for him to start shooting, than dash side and again different side or dash toward him. If he's 250-300m from you double dash back. End of problem. But really, you shouldn't be in a situation when DB Griffin surprises you, it's one of the slowest bots in the game... It isnt the surprise. It is the orkan fire delay that makes all the problems for me. If pixo actually thought of what they have actually done in the update. They would problably try to remove the orkan fire delay "nerf" and nerf something else in the orkan. |
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Post by ystava on Oct 26, 2018 8:18:19 GMT -5
Yup. You read the title correctly. This isn't a joke thread. Like most threads I make. Well. Time to post the hangar. If you are thinking the following line : "but wait there is a level 5 kumiho there. Shouldn't THAT be the weakest bot?" Well you are kinda correct, I think... I decided to finally bust out my kumiho that I finished in September. It does its job correctly. One of the problems I have with the bulgasari is that I don't know what role it fits: Falcon - tank / shield buster at mid range Hover - beacon capper / stealth counter Raven - blinker( emergency beacon capper) / orkan buster Kumiho - beacon capper / starting bot Bulgasari - tank? Nah. Dps bot? Only at 0 meters. Beacon capper? Not by a long shot. Mid-Ranger? Nah. The falcon is a better mid ranger. The second problem. It cannot beat most bots 1v1. For some reason the orkan mid-league meta is still there. My Bulga can't even crack a lance open. The third problem. It can't have close range exclusive weapons. You might be wondering :" Why though? Bulga can run any weapon and they will be effective." That statement is correct for all but 3 weapons. Those are orkans storms and coronas . I can't run those since the orkans get through the Bulga way too fast. The fourth problem: My bulgasari got merged all the way around in the major balance update. Hp? Heck no it is about a griffin. Shield? It is like a Gareth now. Speed? It is like a bulgasari. Scourges? They got nerfed. The oddball is that in September it was my best bot. But now. He just trash. I appreciate all kinds of advice other than "go commit use stealth bots". Case closed waiting for feedback Trying to assess your hangar is premature. Don't judge a darn thing until your bots are all at lvl 9 at least. Weapons at level 10. Until then it's just too hard to compare them fairly in open combat. You start to turn the corner around level 9 when the bots achieve their max speed and can handle a few hits. Kumi is a great bot and it's speed and agility are a great advantage making other guys miss or finding cover fast. And that's a fine hangar. You just need to level it up. but... as with you. The bulg is far from weak, but when I consider it's role in my hangar right now, it is probably the one I'm looking to replace. Mine is also mounted with scourges, and I think I can do better for a mid-range brawler. But I am not in a hurry to replace him. |
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Post by MarauderCatIsEdgy on Oct 26, 2018 8:47:16 GMT -5
Yup. You read the title correctly. This isn't a joke thread. Like most threads I make. Well. Time to post the hangar. If you are thinking the following line : "but wait there is a level 5 kumiho there. Shouldn't THAT be the weakest bot?" Well you are kinda correct, I think... I decided to finally bust out my kumiho that I finished in September. It does its job correctly. One of the problems I have with the bulgasari is that I don't know what role it fits: Falcon - tank / shield buster at mid range Hover - beacon capper / stealth counter Raven - blinker( emergency beacon capper) / orkan buster Kumiho - beacon capper / starting bot Bulgasari - tank? Nah. Dps bot? Only at 0 meters. Beacon capper? Not by a long shot. Mid-Ranger? Nah. The falcon is a better mid ranger. The second problem. It cannot beat most bots 1v1. For some reason the orkan mid-league meta is still there. My Bulga can't even crack a lance open. The third problem. It can't have close range exclusive weapons. You might be wondering :" Why though? Bulga can run any weapon and they will be effective." That statement is correct for all but 3 weapons. Those are orkans storms and coronas . I can't run those since the orkans get through the Bulga way too fast. The fourth problem: My bulgasari got merged all the way around in the major balance update. Hp? Heck no it is about a griffin. Shield? It is like a Gareth now. Speed? It is like a bulgasari. Scourges? They got nerfed. The oddball is that in September it was my best bot. But now. He just trash. I appreciate all kinds of advice other than "go commit use stealth bots". Case closed waiting for feedback Trying to assess your hangar is premature. Don't judge a darn thing until your bots are all at lvl 9 at least. Weapons at level 10. Until then it's just too hard to compare them fairly in open combat. You start to turn the corner around level 9 when the bots achieve their max speed and can handle a few hits. Kumi is a great bot and it's speed and agility are a great advantage making other guys miss or finding cover fast. And that's a fine hangar. You just need to level it up. but... as with you. The bulg is far from weak, but when I consider it's role in my hangar right now, it is probably the one I'm looking to replace. Mine is also mounted with scourges, and I think I can do better for a mid-range brawler. But I am not in a hurry to replace him. There is NO way i am gonna wait 24 days to get any of my level 7 scourges to level 10. IT LITERALY TAKES 24 DAYS. I know about the event, but right now i am working on some other projects. Those 24 days arent a fun time with school being around. If it were summer i would maybe try to make them level 8 or MAYBE 9. About bulga i might get it to level 7 before going any further on its levels. The projects include finishing glory, trying to get a halo/spark for a hover, maybe finish inquisitor if times are THAT desparate that i will need to use a stealth bot. If it werent for the New economy i would level those bad boys ( or girls) with no second thought. About leveling crap: I am working on the avengers right now problably get them all to 7. After that if i am not able to get halo/spark (problably halo as i dont want to make 2 more scourges for the hover) before the end of event I will level the orkans on kumi to level 9 as 2 level 8 orkans are nothing at the moment. The kumi at his point is level 6 and the third scourge is 6 |
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Post by ystava on Oct 26, 2018 8:59:54 GMT -5
Trying to assess your hangar is premature. Don't judge a darn thing until your bots are all at lvl 9 at least. Weapons at level 10. Until then it's just too hard to compare them fairly in open combat. You start to turn the corner around level 9 when the bots achieve their max speed and can handle a few hits. Kumi is a great bot and it's speed and agility are a great advantage making other guys miss or finding cover fast. And that's a fine hangar. You just need to level it up. but... as with you. The bulg is far from weak, but when I consider it's role in my hangar right now, it is probably the one I'm looking to replace. Mine is also mounted with scourges, and I think I can do better for a mid-range brawler. But I am not in a hurry to replace him. There is NO way i am gonna wait 24 days to get any of my level 7 scourges to level 10. IT LITERALY TAKES 24 DAYS. I know about the event, but right now i am working on some other projects. Those 24 days arent a fun time with school being around. If it were summer i would maybe try to make them level 8 or MAYBE 9. About bulga i might get it to level 7 before going any further on its levels. The projects include finishing glory, trying to get a halo/spark for a hover, maybe finish inquisitor if times are THAT desparate that i will need to use a stealth bot. If it werent for the New economy i would level those bad boys ( or girls) with no second thought. About leveling crap: I am working on the avengers right now problably get them all to 7. After that if i am not able to get halo/spark (problably halo as i dont want to make 2 more scourges for the hover) before the end of event I will level the orkans on kumi to level 9 as 2 level 8 orkans are nothing at the moment. The kumi at his point is level 6 and the third scourge is 6 I'm not recommending that you do. Mine are at 12. But weapons and bots at level 6-8 just aren't easy to assess. Personally I'm getting rid of my Bulg at level 11 with scourges at 12... so I agree with you. Invest in something else. But in general it's hard to say much about anything until it's level 9 |
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Post by LeeVicky on Oct 26, 2018 9:01:59 GMT -5
Trying to assess your hangar is premature. Don't judge a darn thing until your bots are all at lvl 9 at least. Weapons at level 10. Until then it's just too hard to compare them fairly in open combat. You start to turn the corner around level 9 when the bots achieve their max speed and can handle a few hits. Kumi is a great bot and it's speed and agility are a great advantage making other guys miss or finding cover fast. And that's a fine hangar. You just need to level it up. but... as with you. The bulg is far from weak, but when I consider it's role in my hangar right now, it is probably the one I'm looking to replace. Mine is also mounted with scourges, and I think I can do better for a mid-range brawler. But I am not in a hurry to replace him. There is NO way i am gonna wait 24 days to get any of my level 7 scourges to level 10. IT LITERALY TAKES 24 DAYS. I know about the event, but right now i am working on some other projects. Those 24 days arent a fun time with school being around. If it were summer i would maybe try to make them level 8 or MAYBE 9. About bulga i might get it to level 7 before going any further on its levels. The projects include finishing glory, trying to get a halo/spark for a hover, maybe finish inquisitor if times are THAT desparate that i will need to use a stealth bot. If it werent for the New economy i would level those bad boys ( or girls) with no second thought. About leveling crap: I am working on the avengers right now problably get them all to 7. After that if i am not able to get halo/spark (problably halo as i dont want to make 2 more scourges for the hover) before the end of event I will level the orkans on kumi to level 9 as 2 level 8 orkans are nothing at the moment. The kumi at his point is level 6 and the third scourge is 6 Speed it up with gold, sometimes you can save months that way. |
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