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Post by ampacked on Oct 30, 2016 5:08:28 GMT -5
When engaging a target that is off level (shooting downwards when jumping in a griffin), the orkans sometime fly straight instead of towards the target. I can confirm that the target is locked on. Happens to me 50% of the time.
Anyone experience this before?
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Post by couchtrader on Oct 30, 2016 6:35:26 GMT -5
I got the same problem. It seems to correct after a few seconds but that's a few seconds of missed opportunity. If you are on top or below your target, look at how your Orkans are tilted. Should be tilted towards your target, if not, I use the lock on target feature and that usually helps.
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Oct 30, 2016 7:19:53 GMT -5
my orkans have always shoot only straight, rocket like, and i don't get any locking.. am I missing something?
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Post by couchtrader on Oct 30, 2016 7:32:07 GMT -5
There seem to be a glitch with the Orkans wherein it shoots horizontal or perpendicular in relation to the bot. Even when you're shooting the bot on level ground, the rockets does not converge on the target and misses. It is more problematic when you're target is at an incline or worse, above or below you. The problem isn't isolated to the Orkans either as it has happened to me with Pinatas - though it doesn't happen as often compared to Orkans. I have emailed pix about the problem and awaiting reply.
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Post by blognio on Oct 30, 2016 7:44:18 GMT -5
may your're at 301 meters/
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Post by johnny5 on Oct 30, 2016 8:41:15 GMT -5
may your're at 301 meters/ LOL This right here is why I suck so much with the Rhino. |
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Post by blognio on Oct 30, 2016 18:45:52 GMT -5
Same, I feel you
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Post by Zhøu™ on Oct 30, 2016 19:04:36 GMT -5
I think you meant the weapon on the bot itself tilts to "lock" on the target?
Never happened to me as long as I am within the 300m range.
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Post by Strayed on Oct 31, 2016 13:49:57 GMT -5
I haven't noticed any problems with orkans so far. Can you guys post a video?
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Post by stygianumbra on Oct 31, 2016 17:25:27 GMT -5
I think he is describing a defect in rocketry with this game. A pinata/orkan has a very small blast radius so if you are jumping or even just firing at someone running towards you coming downhill or uphill the rockets explode outside their damage radius. It happens even with pins on yamantu, try shooting someone from center running towards you downhill, they explode behind and above the target, the height puts them outside blast radius.
Just like jumping to the side you have to lead but you can't lead elevation. It's a serious defect, I dont think bots should be able to outrun explosions at all anyway. What is this WWII style rockets? Maybe they got confused with the radar ranged 30mm canisters on a mig-29 except they blow up even next to supersonic aircraft...
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Post by Neg0Pander on Oct 31, 2016 20:49:22 GMT -5
Rockets are just tricky to aim. I've started only firing at trees. I always hit them
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Post by couchtrader on Nov 1, 2016 2:21:42 GMT -5
The problem isn't about the technique of firing the weapon. The glitch refers to the Orkans firing perpendicular in relation to the bot which makes the rockets miss when the target is at an incline.
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Post by stygianumbra on Nov 1, 2016 11:40:56 GMT -5
The problem isn't about the technique of firing the weapon. The glitch refers to the Orkans firing perpendicular in relation to the bot which makes the rockets miss when the target is at an incline. It's been a defect since the beginning, I complained when I first started but nothing has ever changed.. basically do like we have all been doing, don't shoot bots that are actively changing elevation. Use it to your advantage too, I have purposefully used that to avoid damage. |
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Post by funyun on Nov 1, 2016 12:02:38 GMT -5
The problem isn't about the technique of firing the weapon. The glitch refers to the Orkans firing perpendicular in relation to the bot which makes the rockets miss when the target is at an incline. It's been a defect since the beginning, I complained when I first started but nothing has ever changed.. basically do like we have all been doing, don't shoot bots that are actively changing elevation. Use it to your advantage too, I have purposefully used that to avoid damage. Do they not adjust elevation at all, or just when firing? It is annoying that guns will elevate correctly no matter the distance, but missiles wont adjust till you're in range. |
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Post by stygianumbra on Nov 1, 2016 13:50:18 GMT -5
It's been a defect since the beginning, I complained when I first started but nothing has ever changed.. basically do like we have all been doing, don't shoot bots that are actively changing elevation. Use it to your advantage too, I have purposefully used that to avoid damage. Do they not adjust elevation at all, or just when firing? It is annoying that guns will elevate correctly no matter the distance, but missiles wont adjust till you're in range. When in range for your weapon system and targeting(not necessarily locked) the missiles will aim for elevation at the target but it does not account for the time of flight meaning your target will be lower/higher when the missile arrives. Pinata and orkan have a very tiny blast radius so if not basically a direct hit you won't do damage. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 1, 2016 14:44:27 GMT -5
I guess I usually wait till Griffs and the like land before shooting at them, but as long as I was within 300m, I've never noticed this. Now, if the bot is <300 when I start, then >300 after I begin to shoot, I have noticed it stops elevating... but not if I was in range and they were a little bit out of my elevation plane... I agree with asking for a video to see what you mean.
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Post by stygianumbra on Nov 1, 2016 15:00:43 GMT -5
I guess I usually wait till Griffs and the like land before shooting at them, but as long as I was within 300m, I've never noticed this. Now, if the bot is <300 when I start, then >300 after I begin to shoot, I have noticed it stops elevating... but not if I was in range and they were a little bit out of my elevation plane... I agree with asking for a video to see what you mean. I hit griffs all the time at the apex of their jump with orkans, if you fire while they are on the way up or down you will usually do little or no damage. Same on yam with a charging rhino going downhill. Same principle. |
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Post by couchtrader on Nov 3, 2016 0:50:29 GMT -5
The solution for me has been 2 - 3 quick taps to fire single rockets and observe the rockets' flight path.
ONe thing to watch out for is the flight path of the rockets when you are in range. Unfortunately, this can only be observed with 2 orkans. The flight path should look triangular while firing at the target.
If the rockets fly parallel towards the target, the rockets will miss or cause splash damage at most. Glitch is active
If the rockets converge towards target, (both rockets meeting at a single point; triangular ) then it's normal
i'm jealous of those whom this hasn't happened to as I love using orkans.
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Post by ampacked on Nov 4, 2016 6:36:10 GMT -5
When attempting to capture some screenshots I finally realized why.
1. Me wait behind obstacle for enemy to walk near.
2. Enemy hits 300m
3. Me jump and fire
4. Enemy walks back to ~301m
5. Me cry
My bad. The orkans don't adjust elevations when targets are beyond 300m so they fly straight.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 4, 2016 7:52:38 GMT -5
When attempting to capture some screenshots I finally realized why. 1. Me wait behind obstacle for enemy to walk near. 2. Enemy hits 300m 3. Me jump and fire 4. Enemy walks back to ~301m 5. Me cry My bad. The orkans don't adjust elevations when targets are beyond 300m so they fly straight. Thats what I figured... And yep!... crying is a symptom!  |
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