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Post by wannabetoughguy on Sept 29, 2018 19:07:03 GMT -5
These bots are not meant to run Hydras. Plain and simple.
Since the update I've seen these setups more and I have lost a handful of games due to the dummies chucking hydras for a full ten minutes. I will make a list if one of you fools happens to be on my team again. The players using this setup are completely oblivious to what is going on and are usually the last player left in the game and still on their first bot. Please stop running Hydra Haechi' and Spectre' in Domination.
Also, if you are going to chuck hydras or spirals throughout the whole game at least leave the spawn area so you can be more effective and give your team a shot. Either way if you are playing in Domination or Beacon Rush you should be capping beacons not chucking hydras/spirals from the spawn area like a 「meow」.
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Post by Alphabet Soup on Sept 29, 2018 19:29:06 GMT -5
ah.. best to remember its my game they I play.. I have seen both sides of it.. but best would be for you to take a break.. There are some players that can do some amazing things with Hydras and so forth.. I dont mind them at all.. I hate seeing the Zenit Fury's that drop in first bot....
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Post by wannabetoughguy on Sept 29, 2018 20:08:41 GMT -5
ah.. best to remember its my game they I play.. I have seen both sides of it.. but best would be for you to take a break.. There are some players that can do some amazing things with Hydras and so forth.. I dont mind them at all.. I hate seeing the Zenit Fury's that drop in first bot.... No need to get defensive. The problem is that I've lost games due to that mentality and setup. Nobody out there is doing amazing things in a Hydra Haechi/Spectre. I have seen first hand. The Spectre is not durable enough for a hydra build and hydras on either bot is pointless. I can name a handful of better weapons to equip your Haechi or Spectre with. Tell me I'm wrong. I'm asking for some awareness and ultimately to be a better teammate. This is team play I am talking about here. I know it's your hanger, but if the setup is ineffective then that is just the truth. No way around it.
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Post by Heartbreak One on Sept 29, 2018 20:59:27 GMT -5
Chimera fury and falcon are better at firepower no? Even though I'm making falcon I'd probably rather use triple avengers
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 29, 2018 20:59:29 GMT -5
ah.. best to remember its my game they I play.. I have seen both sides of it.. but best would be for you to take a break.. There are some players that can do some amazing things with Hydras and so forth.. I dont mind them at all.. I hate seeing the Zenit Fury's that drop in first bot.... No need to get defensive. The problem is that I've lost games due to that mentality and setup. Nobody out there is doing amazing things in a Hydra Haechi/Spectre. I have seen first hand. The Spectre is not durable enough for a hydra build and hydras on either bot is pointless. I can name a handful of better weapons to equip your Haechi or Spectre with. Tell me I'm wrong.I'm asking for some awareness and ultimately to be a better teammate. This is team play I am talking about here. I know it's your hanger, but if the setup is ineffective then that is just the truth. No way around it. You’re wrong. Hail Hydra
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Post by wannabetoughguy on Sept 29, 2018 21:03:54 GMT -5
No need to get defensive. The problem is that I've lost games due to that mentality and setup. Nobody out there is doing amazing things in a Hydra Haechi/Spectre. I have seen first hand. The Spectre is not durable enough for a hydra build and hydras on either bot is pointless. I can name a handful of better weapons to equip your Haechi or Spectre with. Tell me I'm wrong.I'm asking for some awareness and ultimately to be a better teammate. This is team play I am talking about here. I know it's your hanger, but if the setup is ineffective then that is just the truth. No way around it. You’re wrong. Hail Hydra Just don't put them on these two bots.
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 29, 2018 21:07:28 GMT -5
Just don't put them on these two bots. Sure. I’ll do that. After you tell me what other bot I can put 4 of them on and I can create crazy angles with.
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Post by wannabetoughguy on Sept 29, 2018 21:25:29 GMT -5
Just don't put them on these two bots. Sure. I’ll do that. After you tell me what other bot I can put 4 of them on and I can create crazy angles with. Take two and put them on a Griffin along with two spirals. Spydra Griffin > Hydra Spectre
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Post by wannabetoughguy on Sept 29, 2018 21:28:05 GMT -5
Do you actually run a Hydra Spectre or are you just being childish?
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Post by wannabetoughguy on Sept 29, 2018 21:50:54 GMT -5
I'd like to apologize, that was rude, but this is about the bots not the weapons. I'll step away and go play now.
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 30, 2018 3:31:07 GMT -5
Sure. Iâll do that. After you tell me what other bot I can put 4 of them on and I can create crazy angles with. Take two and put them on a Griffin along with two spirals. Spydra Griffin > Hydra Spectre Lmfao. Do you actually run a Hydra Spectre or are you just being childish? Yes. I'd like to apologize, that was rude, but this is about the bots not the weapons. I'll step away and go play now. Yes. The child in me likes to annoy the 「dookie」 out of people.
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Post by LeeVicky on Sept 30, 2018 6:48:30 GMT -5
I think that hydra apologists completly ignored that OP is about:
1) domination mode 2) running one bot for whole 10min, even when loosing badly on beacons
From reading this forum I understand that a lot of players use that build to troll opponents, but why troll your own teammates?
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 30, 2018 7:16:21 GMT -5
If it’s effective, it’s effective. If not, a smart (team)player ditches the bot, indeed.
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Post by Alphabet Soup on Sept 30, 2018 7:38:05 GMT -5
I know a few players that can actually do some damage and control a map with a Spectre Hydra...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 7:51:51 GMT -5
I've seen effective use of Hydras depending on the situation (map, other bots, timing), but I share your frustration OP. Hydras used to be a decent counter to the Spectre Shocktrains, but probably not needed as much in the current environment.
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Post by wannabetoughguy on Sept 30, 2018 12:51:33 GMT -5
I know a few players that can actually do some damage and control a map with a Spectre Hydra... Last night I looked at the hangers of the two best players in the world and one of them had a Spectre Hydra, but they had multiple Spectres with Tarans. It's a riot, I love seeing it in game. There is a time and place for every bot and weapon. Eventually I want to run 3/5 of mine with energy weapons.
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Post by wannabetoughguy on Sept 30, 2018 13:05:08 GMT -5
I have MKII hydras and L12 spirals. The Griffin is a heavyweight, still feels fast, and jumps a lot further. I've traded missles with either setup (Haechi/Hydra and Spectre) and win, outsmart them everytime.
The best builds for the Spectre are,
1) Tarans 2) Orkans 50/50) Shocktrain/Storm 5) Scourge 6) Ion 7) Tulumbas 8) Hydra
I have MKII Storm, MKII Tulumbas, MKII Hydra, and L12 Ion. Sooner or later, we all come to the point where losing is no longer fun and get better.
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