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Post by cptplick on Sept 25, 2018 20:34:41 GMT -5
Do you recomend leo with punishers and avenger or natasha with punishers and avenger? i notice that avenger is just a punisher in the heavy slot
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 25, 2018 21:03:35 GMT -5
Hmmmm, let me see... Leo | vs. | Natasha | Punisher | = | Punisher | Punisher | = | Punisher | Punisher | < | Avenger | Avenger | = | Avenger |
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Post by nocluevok on Sept 25, 2018 21:13:53 GMT -5
Depends on how quickly you want to die.
Still have an MK2 12 laser pointer Leo that I use for long range because MK2 12 punishers take too long to do any damage unless you can ambush. In the dash meta... yeah, that'll happen often enough to make it worth dying a million times first. ?
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Post by bravex on Sept 25, 2018 21:13:54 GMT -5
Leo is the tougher bot. You can get two Avengers on Natasha but it takes damage easily and goes down quicker.
That big body catches every bullet fired at it. I don't think Natty does well as a short range brawler.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Sept 25, 2018 21:59:54 GMT -5
Hmmmm, let me see... Leo | vs. | Natasha | Punisher | = | Punisher | Punisher | = | Punisher | Punisher | < | Avenger | Avenger | = | Avenger |
There's a lot more to it than that. Leo has more health, more speed and a smaller profile, is cheaper to upgrade the bot and cheaper and faster to upgrade the weapons. For a brawler, I'd go Leo over Tasha every time.
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Post by Royce on Sept 25, 2018 22:19:49 GMT -5
Hmmmm, let me see... Leo | vs. | Natasha | Punisher | = | Punisher | Punisher | = | Punisher | Punisher | < | Avenger | Avenger | = | Avenger |
There's a lot more to it than that. Leo has more health, more speed and a smaller profile, is cheaper to upgrade the bot and cheaper and faster to upgrade the weapons. For a brawler, I'd go Leo over Tasha every time. Though the Natty is getting a speed buff which will help it. The Fury however is getting a speed buff too and already has similar health to the Leo. It will actually be faster and more durable than the Leo with more firepower and superior hardpoint locations. And the upgrade time isn't too much longer. The Leo is going to be sort of pointless imo after the rebalance. Edit: never mind Fury health is like the Natty not Leo. I still don't see much point in the Leo with the other old heavies getting speed buffs though. The extra durability just isn't enough to make up for less speed and firepower.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Sept 25, 2018 23:21:57 GMT -5
There's a lot more to it than that. Leo has more health, more speed and a smaller profile, is cheaper to upgrade the bot and cheaper and faster to upgrade the weapons. For a brawler, I'd go Leo over Tasha every time. Though the Natty is getting a speed buff which will help it. The Fury however is getting a speed buff too and already has similar health to the Leo. It will actually be faster and more durable than the Leo with more firepower and superior hardpoint locations. And the upgrade time isn't too much longer. The Leo is going to be sort of pointless imo after the rebalance. Edit: never mind Fury health is like the Natty not Leo. I still don't see much point in the Leo with the other old heavies getting speed buffs though. The extra durability just isn't enough to make up for less speed and firepower. Well yeah Fury is great, but not what OP asked. Nattys biggest problem is her size.
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Post by sonofsam on Sept 26, 2018 6:23:03 GMT -5
Pretty much a wash as far as survivability is concerned. The Two Avengers on Tosh, by themselves, have more firepower than the Leo. Then add on the punishers.
Basically in a one on one the Natasha will kill whatever is attacking you quickly enough to make up for Leo's extra life. If you are in a crossfire neither will survive long.
That said the Leo requires less components to make, levels faster, and gives you a tank to press into the center for a last minute cap if needed. I would go Leo for those reasons alone....that and I still love my Leos.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 6:25:49 GMT -5
Personal experience, i liked playing tasha more than i liked playing leo. Tashas firepower is just so awesome.
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Post by Desert Eagle 44 on Sept 26, 2018 6:40:31 GMT -5
The Thunder/Punisher Leo has been my tried & true brawler since I was first able to get one. Once I get my Avengers leveled I may move one over to the Leo, or I may move both on to a Natty with 2 Shredders. At first, I never really took a liking to the Natty, but am currently running a Trident/Pin setup that has been a ton of fun. If we get all the changes they are proposing in the upcoming rebalance I might have to run similar setups, like the OP asked about, to see which one I like better.
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Post by Koalabear on Sept 26, 2018 6:51:10 GMT -5
Personally, I'd go with Natasha. Sure, she's big and slow, but you can mitigate that with smart piloting and good use of cover. Plus, with the weapon placement on the Nat, you can corner shoot with an Avenger and Punisher at the same time.
The only thing I would change is change the Punishers to Gusts.
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Post by endyu on Oct 1, 2018 14:38:29 GMT -5
If you have an old econ Natasha, it only takes 26.7m Ag and 6 days 23 hours to get to lv12 compared to 56m Ag and 15 days 3 hours for a Leo.
I would go with the Natasha for versatility and firepower.
2 Avengers have more firepower than 1 avenger + 3 punishers alone. That means you can put whatever you want on your other slots on the Natasha and still have more firepower than the Leo. Shredders/Halos would be great in those slots. Noricums work to flush out targets from behind cover. Gusts to knock down Anciles faster. Ecu on one side so you can get closer to a Dragoon/Flux build.
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