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Post by orionpax on Sept 17, 2018 14:29:14 GMT -5
I just got my Bulwark and i have 2 fluxs for it, but after running it for a few games I started to think It might be a better set up with Avengers. I can't do dragoons because it takes to long to make comps and upgrade them. I can make a pair of Avengers in a day. What would you run? Flux or Avengers? Flux will be getting a buff soon Also!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 14:51:21 GMT -5
I think Flux on Bulwark is a little wasteful. Flux is designed to hit beyond 700m+, where very few reds can actually hit you. Only other fluxes, or a treb butch can reach you. Bulwark has all that armor and shielding and you wouldn't use it in most 700m+ firefights. I think flux is best on Fury - you dont need shielding at that distance, and bulwark is better suited for Dragoons, Avengers, etc, where its protections better come into play.
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Post by orionpax on Sept 17, 2018 15:33:27 GMT -5
I think Flux on Dragoon is a little wasteful. Flux is designed to hit beyond 700m+, where very few reds can actually hit you. Only other fluxes, or a treb butch can reach you. Bulwark has all that armor and shielding and you wouldn't use it in most 700m+ firefights. I think flux is best on Fury - you dont need shielding at that distance, and bulwark is better suited for Dragoons, Avengers, etc, where its protections better come into play. Thanks heavy Panda, that was my thought also. I will give the Avengers a try and see if i like them. If not then I will just bite the bullet and grind out 2 dragoons. |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Sept 17, 2018 17:29:39 GMT -5
I think Flux on Bulwark is a little wasteful. Flux is designed to hit beyond 700m+, where very few reds can actually hit you. Only other fluxes, or a treb butch can reach you. Bulwark has all that armor and shielding and you wouldn't use it in most 700m+ firefights. I think flux is best on Fury - you dont need shielding at that distance, and bulwark is better suited for Dragoons, Avengers, etc, where its protections better come into play. Agreed. The best position for Bulwarks shield abilities is MR support. I don’t think it’s a brawler, because every single time I encounter in CQC, it dies really quick. Personally I have no interest in this bot, but from everything Ive seen, it is a pain in the toosh as a MR support, a super pain in fact! |
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Post by Joopiter on Sept 17, 2018 17:49:11 GMT -5
Hey bro.
I'd say you have no other choice except for avengers! So fun to use and crazy damage. I promise you won't regret it.
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Post by orionpax on Sept 17, 2018 18:32:14 GMT -5
Hey bro. I'd say you have no other choice except for avengers! So fun to use and crazy damage. I promise you won't regret it. awesome thanks! |
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 17, 2018 19:03:49 GMT -5
Fun fact: 400 Avenger components are done in like 3 hours something.  |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Sept 17, 2018 19:26:31 GMT -5
Mid range or long, as the Bulwark isn't a brawler. Avengers are too CC for it, as 500m is childs play to cross these days, so avenge if you must but get those dragoons. The +100m is going to make a world of difference and aren't range dependent for damage like the avenger.
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Post by orionpax on Sept 18, 2018 0:10:06 GMT -5
Mid range or long, as the Bulwark isn't a brawler. Avengers are too CC for it, as 500m is childs play to cross these days, so avenge if you must but get those dragoons. The +100m is going to make a world of difference and aren't range dependent for damage like the avenger. If I go with Dragoons, I will have to make a decision on whether I get the other bots I want to build comps for next as I would have to dedicate all my resources to the dragoons. Tuff call! Maybe get the Avengers to hold me down a few months till I can concentrate on them. I really want a hellburner and a falcon! |
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Post by milty72 on Sept 18, 2018 3:10:08 GMT -5
Avengers. I have one and a pair of punishers on a Vityaz and it's awesome. Kick arse gunship and it' not even near levelled.
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Post by ystava on Sept 18, 2018 7:51:41 GMT -5
I just got my Bulwark and i have 2 fluxs for it, but after running it for a few games I started to think It might be a better set up with Avengers. I can't do dragoons because it takes to long to make comps and upgrade them. I can make a pair of Avengers in a day. What would you run? Flux or Avengers? Flux will be getting a buff soon Also! Thanks The question you should be asking is what role do you want to fill. Flux is the best long-range heavy. It could be your only bot for almost any round. Moon is the only map that the flux is a complete drag to use. Dragoon is the best mid range heavy. Bulwark is a PITA at this range if he's able to retire to cover at will. Avenger is easily the best short-mid-range heavy. Bulwark may not be the best short range bot, but he would certainly be able to wade into a hairball and fk some sh up. Likely a sacrifice play. If I were to use Bulwark/Avenger I might make it the last spawn or as a beacon bomb. |
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Post by orionpax on Sept 18, 2018 13:52:09 GMT -5
I just got my Bulwark and i have 2 fluxs for it, but after running it for a few games I started to think It might be a better set up with Avengers. I can't do dragoons because it takes to long to make comps and upgrade them. I can make a pair of Avengers in a day. What would you run? Flux or Avengers? Flux will be getting a buff soon Also! Thanks The question you should be asking is what role do you want to fill. Flux is the best long-range heavy. It could be your only bot for almost any round. Moon is the only map that the flux is a complete drag to use. Dragoon is the best mid range heavy. Bulwark is a PITA at this range if he's able to retire to cover at will. Avenger is easily the best short-mid-range heavy. Bulwark may not be the best short range bot, but he would certainly be able to wade into a hairball and fk some sh up. Likely a sacrifice play. If I were to use Bulwark/Avenger I might make it the last spawn or as a beacon bomb. And this is the problem I'm having! Deciding on which role I want to use it for. I was thinking long range, but there are a few situations where a mid ranged might be better. |
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Post by ystava on Sept 18, 2018 14:33:43 GMT -5
My specific opinion is that the Avengers put Bulwark in harms way and he won't last very long... so the role you decide depends what the rest of your hangar is like. The optimal build for Bulwark is either with Dragoons or Fluxes... but it's one of the more adaptable bots so I won't argue with other builds too much.
I think a well-balanced multipurpose hangar for someone with only 1 hangar is
1 dash or fast bot (Kumi, Puruser, or Strider)
2 Bangers (Bulg, Haechi, Bulwark, Lance, Leo, etc etc)
1 Assassin (Spectre, Inqusitor, Pursuer, Mercury etc)
1 Specialty bot (Whatever your crazy imagination wants to play with.... I have a Fury Flux/Treb sniper... or another Spectre build... or whatever you want)
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Post by RightOn on Sept 18, 2018 14:42:59 GMT -5
Dragoon before Flux, the latter belongs on Fury. You have a mid range bot with defenses that would easily outlast and outprovoke a drg fury (or even zeus fury).
But Avenger is better than Dragoon again for those reasons.
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Post by orionpax on Sept 19, 2018 14:18:51 GMT -5
My specific opinion is that the Avengers put Bulwark in harms way and he won't last very long... so the role you decide depends what the rest of your hangar is like. The optimal build for Bulwark is either with Dragoons or Fluxes... but it's one of the more adaptable bots so I won't argue with other builds too much. I think a well-balanced multipurpose hangar for someone with only 1 hangar is 1 dash or fast bot (Kumi, Puruser, or Strider) 2 Bangers (Bulg, Haechi, Bulwark, Lance, Leo, etc etc) 1 Assassin (Spectre, Inqusitor, Pursuer, Mercury etc) 1 Specialty bot (Whatever your crazy imagination wants to play with.... I have a Fury Flux/Treb sniper... or another Spectre build... or whatever you want) I have multiple hangers! Thus will go in the long range maps hanger. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 3:15:22 GMT -5
Like other people said, I would use Fluxes on the Fury and Dragoons on the Bulwark. I'm actually running a L9-11 Dragoon Bulwark in iOS Champion, and it's REALLY good: you are virtually unkillable from the distance, while with the Fury you have to be hyper-aware and never go too far from cover. With the Bulwark you can keep more advanced positions on the battlefield and help you teammates while they push for beacons. I have 2 Avengers too, and I would like to try them, but for closer range weapons the Bulwark MUST be at least L12 Mk1 IMHO, or it will die easily against other brawlers (especially Spectres).
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