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Post by bravex on Sept 16, 2018 16:55:10 GMT -5
I know, Dragoon has more damage and I think they're easier to get in the workshop but ...
I like the range! Also I've been running a Treb Gekko Leo (Just for funsies) and was pleasantly surprised at how the Gekkos work.
I'd like to hear from some Fury pilots. Has anyone run both builds? Is there a further problem besides low DPS and cost?
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Post by BossieBos on Sept 16, 2018 17:03:53 GMT -5
The only downside would be, that’s it’s only really useful in some, not all maps. But I’m going for it, as well.
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Post by BadAsh on Sept 16, 2018 17:04:14 GMT -5
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Post by ░SᑌᑕKᗩ░ᘻC░ on Sept 16, 2018 17:11:51 GMT -5
I know, Dragoon has more damage and I think they're easier to get in the workshop but ... I like the range! Also I've been running a Treb Gekko Leo (Just for funsies) and was pleasantly surprised at how the Gekkos work. I'd like to hear from some Fury pilots. Has anyone run both builds? Is there a further problem besides low DPS and cost? Nope not gonna do it. Those Flux are tremendous at range and I really hate the sound when they melt my bots. Prepare for the backlash though; you will be hunted like a low life hydra pilot. Lol.
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Post by miscanthus on Sept 16, 2018 17:31:38 GMT -5
Any weapon that needs constant line of site to do damage is relatively easy to avoid. Burst works so much better with all the fast moving, stealthy bots in the game.
I have a Patton Gekko I used to run to counter Fury Tridents when they were in their prime. It worked well at the time. Now it's almost useless, as the game is so much faster. Save yourself the regret and level the Dragoons instead. The amount of damage they can put out in a very short time is impressive.
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Post by RedRaider on Sept 16, 2018 17:32:27 GMT -5
I know what I want to see in that Damage resistance sheet, but I dont know what it is really saying.
Weapons: "resist Penetration " means what exactly? High penetration or High resistance to penetration?
If they wanted to say that a certain weapon has a better ability to penetrate shields and body plating than another why didnt they say that?
My cynical side says High means the weapon is a POS.
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Post by BadAsh on Sept 16, 2018 17:36:25 GMT -5
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Post by kevmac on Sept 16, 2018 18:07:25 GMT -5
The only downside would be, that’s it’s only really useful in some, not all maps. But I’m going for it, as well. Yes you shouldn't do it,I find them such a P.I.T.A.!
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Post by bravex on Sept 16, 2018 18:22:13 GMT -5
Any weapon that needs constant line of site to do damage is relatively easy to avoid. Burst works so much better with all the fast moving, stealthy bots in the game. I have a Patton Gekko I used to run to counter Fury Tridents when they were in their prime. It worked well at the time. Now it's almost useless, as the game is so much faster. Save yourself the regret and level the Dragoons instead. The amount of damage they can put out in a very short time is impressive. True enough but sometimes it's about supression. Today I was in Power Plant and saw a red heading toward one of our beacons. I set up my Leo and lasered him as soon as he got out of cover. It wasn't a huge amount of damage but his health dipped enough to make him go back behind the building. I didnt get a kill, I probably didn't get much damage but I saved our beacon and we got the win. If I can do that with three low leveled Gekkos I think about what I could do with three highly levelled Fluxes.
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Post by zombiewolf907 on Sept 16, 2018 19:45:26 GMT -5
If you have a Long Range hanger it is Awesome. Costs a lot to upgrade. I am running a Flux/Gecko Natasha which works fairly well. Just like most builds I sometimes get my rear handed to me but normally works well on LR maps.
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Post by Desert Eagle 44 on Sept 16, 2018 19:50:05 GMT -5
Do it. DO IT!!!
Peer pressure.
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Post by bravex on Sept 16, 2018 19:51:54 GMT -5
If you have a Long Range hanger it is Awesome. Costs a lot to upgrade. I am running a Flux/Gecko Natasha which works fairly well. Just like most builds I sometimes get my rear handed to me but normally works well on LR maps. I like variety. Currently my long range bot is a Treb Butch.
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Post by iam99 on Sept 16, 2018 19:57:06 GMT -5
I have just opened up my 2nd hangar for the Yamantau map and Koth mode.. So i have 2 long rangers and 2 fast robots/beacon chasers...plus 1 more versatile robot. I would really like a trio of FLUX on a Fury or even a Double on a NAT.. but i will make do with a single on my gecko Leo - when i get the first Flux next week.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Sept 16, 2018 19:58:03 GMT -5
Any bot can mount it, but only in a fury are reds truly fluxed.
Do it.
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Post by bravex on Sept 16, 2018 20:11:09 GMT -5
I have just opened up my 2nd hangar for the Yamantau map and Koth mode.. So i have 2 long rangers and 2 fast robots/beacon chasers...plus 1 more versatile robot. I would really like a trio of FLUX on a Fury or even a Double on a NAT.. but i will make do with a single on my gecko Leo - when i get the first Flux next week. Yeah, I am really suprised how well Treb Gekko Leo works. I always thought Gekkos were kinda lame. I guess there's a lot of players out there with level 5 Gekkos. When I saw how well the Gekkos work I started thinking Fluxes might be worth the expense.
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Post by moses on Sept 17, 2018 1:16:15 GMT -5
That about sums up Pixo logic: ”for example explosive weapon with high penetration nullifies a robot's high explosive resistance” Which is entirely different to: “High resistance (of any damage type): 17% reduced damage against high Penetration weaponry” to the OP - go for it with the flux. I managed to get 3 dragoons before economy changed so will level those, but from being on the wrong end of some fluxes they are great for suppression and can really do some damage even with pretty short exposure. I think they just have a different role vs dragoon
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Post by hi5 on Sept 17, 2018 8:03:14 GMT -5
Need three at mk12 to really be a killer vs an annoyance. Check how much that would cost plus a Fury.
That’s enough to dissuade me from doing it.
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Post by bravex on Sept 17, 2018 9:31:49 GMT -5
Need three at mk12 to really be a killer vs an annoyance. Check how much that would cost plus a Fury. That’s enough to dissuade me from doing it. I won the Fury in a Gold chest. That's what prompted my (in)decision.
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Post by bravex on Sept 17, 2018 16:52:01 GMT -5
Ok, guys that's like 2 against and a whole bunch for so I'm going to go for it.
Right now I'm grinding out a few of those fancy new energy shotguns but after that I'm going for the Fluxes.
They should be ready to go sometime in 2019.
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Post by ystava on Sept 18, 2018 8:35:24 GMT -5
I know, Dragoon has more damage and I think they're easier to get in the workshop but ... I like the range! Also I've been running a Treb Gekko Leo (Just for funsies) and was pleasantly surprised at how the Gekkos work. I'd like to hear from some Fury pilots. Has anyone run both builds? Is there a further problem besides low DPS and cost? 3 Flux fury is a monster once Flux is at 10+. I do 2 Flux 1 Treb.... which is also a great build. The advantage being that sometimes you only get peaks at those pesky spectres on the other side of the world and the Treb can nail them when they stick their heads out, or pop Griffs mid jump. The flux hit x's tell you when you're clear to shoot the treb. Like a pointer. I almost never miss even when threading the needles on the ship for instance. DPS output of the 2 builds is about the same for the first 3-6 seconds then the advantage moves to the Flux. I'm going to get my Treb to Mk2-12 and that will extend to 8-10 seconds of equivalent output with the 3 Flux version. If you are running with a clan, it's incredibly helpful to your team. Never make it your first bot. The only map the build isn't very useful is the moon base imho.
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Post by RightOn on Sept 18, 2018 14:37:28 GMT -5
Other than it being prohibitively expensive and limited to certain maps?
Well?
There's your reasons.
It IS good though. A flux is 2.21x a gekko at max mk2... but it will cost
MORE THAN ONE BILLION FOR ONE BOT
I'm not saying you can't do OK with lv8 Flux Fury. But it will take a couple months to make and based on my deathstar patton (lv8), you aren't looking at a common used build for your time. Quad treb butch is more accessible and scares people more.
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Post by endyu on Sept 18, 2018 17:24:16 GMT -5
If you enjoy playing BR, it's definitely not worth it.
The game modes are now standalone. This means you can play BR all day.
Builds like the Flux Fury are a lot less effective in BR than in other modes like TDM/Dom which tend to be slower paced and more a war of attrition. BR you need to capture and defend beacons, so brawlers are very important. If you need range, builds that are more bursty like the Fury Dragoon is a better option.
I would say if you like playing all modes, the Fury Dragoon is better anyways. It can actually defend a beacon if it came down to it.
I had plans for Flux/Hydras/Noricums that I'm not going to touch anymore mainly cuz TDM/KoTH are dead to me. Focusing on builds that are more versatile and fun now. It feels great, I'm actually excited about the game now.
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Post by LeeVicky on Sept 20, 2018 7:27:53 GMT -5
The only map the build isn't very useful is the moon base imho. I would say, that build IS useful on 3 maps only (Yamantau, Springfield, Canyon). Maybe on Dreadnought in some games. And majority of players using this build tend to overstay and loose... Other maps are either shorter or have plenty of cover and Dragoon Fury is a better option.
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Post by ystava on Sept 20, 2018 14:36:22 GMT -5
The only map the build isn't very useful is the moon base imho. I would say, that build IS useful on 3 maps only (Yamantau, Springfield, Canyon). Maybe on Dreadnought in some games. And majority of players using this build tend to overstay and loose... Other maps are either shorter or have plenty of cover and Dragoon Fury is a better option. One must consider one's entire hanger to decide whether flux or dragoon is the better build. Also clan needs may factor in. The build is usable on everything except the moon... maybe not ideal, but Flux/Fury is both what my clan needs and complements what I have. I'm working on a bot to swap in for my Flux Fury when I'm solo, but don't have any leveled enough yet.
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Post by mechtout on Sept 20, 2018 15:21:31 GMT -5
Could be better than dragoons after resistance update
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Post by bronzeknee on Sept 22, 2018 23:39:24 GMT -5
I know, Dragoon has more damage and I think they're easier to get in the workshop but ... I like the range! Also I've been running a Treb Gekko Leo (Just for funsies) and was pleasantly surprised at how the Gekkos work. I'd like to hear from some Fury pilots. Has anyone run both builds? Is there a further problem besides low DPS and cost? Clan versus Clan battle on Springfield... the opposing Treb Butch beat our Flux Fury pretty easily... walked out from cover, unloaded, returned to cover. After that was rinsed and repeated the Fury was dead. So that is a reason to not use the Flux.
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Post by ystava on Sept 23, 2018 6:22:33 GMT -5
I know, Dragoon has more damage and I think they're easier to get in the workshop but ... I like the range! Also I've been running a Treb Gekko Leo (Just for funsies) and was pleasantly surprised at how the Gekkos work. I'd like to hear from some Fury pilots. Has anyone run both builds? Is there a further problem besides low DPS and cost? Clan versus Clan battle on Springfield... the opposing Treb Butch beat our Flux Fury pretty easily... walked out from cover, unloaded, returned to cover. After that was rinsed and repeated the Fury was dead. So that is a reason to not use the Flux. One anecdote? I see those bots as roughly interchangeable. Springfield has a strong and weak sniping side. I can beat any sniper from the farm in my fury. I have taken on legend league snipers from there with no issues. The other side is way harder. Most ppl suck at support as well.
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