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Post by mothbot on Sept 13, 2018 13:27:16 GMT -5
Hi everyone!
Thanks to the help provided in an earlier thread, I'm enjoying my RDB Griffin. However, I'm starting to wonder if I should switch out my Pins for Noricums.
The reason is Noricums have greater range and have that high artillery arc which can reach behind cover from a distance. I have this idea that I could bombard folks until they are annoyed then finish them off with Tulus.
Does this idea have merit or should I stick to Pins and Tulumbas aka Russian Death Button?
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Post by Stermy on Sept 13, 2018 15:21:56 GMT -5
Tulumbas may get a revamp in the future since they will probably receive a medium penetration buff.. but i don't see noricum having such potential. Sometimes though, i find myself in desire to replace my current bot with a mk2 patton noricum, just to give a pat in the head at those pesky spectrain campers..
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Post by xCHIEFx on Sept 13, 2018 15:48:40 GMT -5
Personally I don’t think mixing Noricum and tulu is a good idea because they have different play styles.
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Post by milty72 on Sept 14, 2018 4:47:56 GMT -5
From my memory of when I played a Griff it was either hang back and spydra that beast or RDB/PDB where you can jump on in and rain those rockets down. With all the ancile these days PDB might work betterer.
I always found that I got slaughtered so I ended up Spydra and doing the hide jump launch. Hint-when you jump up you can get the hydras to lob over walls.
As for the nori tulu. I might chuck that on a Gary for a giggle.
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Post by OrangeMegatron on Sept 14, 2018 5:58:42 GMT -5
Tulumbas may get a revamp in the future since they will probably receive a medium penetration buff.. but i don't see noricum having such potential. Sometimes though, i find myself in desire to replace my current bot with a mk2 patton noricum, just to give a pat in the head at those pesky spectrain campers.. Personally I prefer Jessy as it is faster and Quick Switch gets in line with Noricums reload time. I played it yesterday because I got daily tasks:"kills with light robot" and "damage with light robot". And it was fun in TDM on the PowerPlant map to see all these Spectres running because of the Noricum showe... . There was a great feeling of accomplishment when I deleted 2 Shock Spectres in one salvo... They were weakened already, but anyway...
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Post by bravex on Sept 14, 2018 6:33:32 GMT -5
My first thought is to say it wouldn't work but ...
1) Pins don't do very much damage anyway. Most of your RDB Griff power is from the Tulumbas.
2) Tulumbas splash damage is great against enemies hiding behind cover. Noricums would do this too unless the enemy is under cover or less than 300 meters away
3) What you've created here is a crazy varient of the Stuka or Special Ops Griff.
4) I want to use this once just to see what happens if you jump and unleash your Noris at the top of your jump arc.
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Post by Strayed on Sept 14, 2018 6:45:56 GMT -5
If my knowledge of the game is still accurate and noricums haven't received a sizable buff recently then no, noricums are not useful under almost any circumstance.
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Post by mothbot on Sept 14, 2018 13:47:01 GMT -5
Tried it out yesterday and it was definitely a different playstyle. Sadly, I didn't get as many hits with the Noricum as I expected; but, I did entice a few 'bots from their cover.
The nicest surprise was when I was able to kill a Jesse under 50m by firing my Noris into the wall next to it. Splash damage for the win!
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Post by hyderier on Sept 14, 2018 13:51:52 GMT -5
If my knowledge of the game is still accurate and noricums haven't received a sizable buff recently then no, noricums are not useful under almost any circumstance. It was quite a while ago, but Noricums did receive a sizable buff. Much faster flight, tighter grouping, and able to hit farther and closer. I've played with a Patton with L6 Noris a bit, and it can be effective especially in a battle, where you are otherwise totally outclassed and would accomplish little with a brawler. Just hang back (but not sit still, you have to move to hit moving targets!) and let it rain. It can really throw the reds off, sometimes, force them to move (and get shot at).
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Post by Koalabear on Sept 14, 2018 14:02:38 GMT -5
You should try Noris with Orkans. In certain situations, the Noris are actually better than Aphids for hitting targets behind cover. Single fire the Noris at targets that are just on the other side of cover - cover that is usually too high for Aphids. Make the red think you're a Nori or Jesse and be as annoying as you can while you chip away at their health. When they get fed up and charge, that's when you jump and destroy with the Orkans. I've done while in Diamond. Its fun but very very situational and not recommended for long term use. For most situations, Aphids are still better.
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Post by bravex on Sept 14, 2018 16:38:03 GMT -5
I don't know if it's viable but I tried it today and it's fun!
I killed two guys who thought they were safe behind a low building.
The Noris are designed to hit targets more than 300 meters out but if someone gets very close you can shoot at a structure to create splash damage or even try for the Noricum Uppercut if it's a tall enemy.
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Post by mothbot on Sept 14, 2018 17:23:19 GMT -5
I don't know if it's viable but I tried it today and it's fun! I killed two guys who thought they were safe behind a low building. The Noris are designed to hit targets more than 300 meters out but if someone gets very close you can shoot at a structure to create splash damage or even try for the Noricum Uppercut if it's a tall enemy. Glad to hear you had fun with it! It's definitely viable but requires more than pushing the big red button. That throws a lot of players off. They are used to similar weapons being paired and having a good synergy in terms of range. Noricums and Tulumbas don't, at least at first glance. BUT, Noris can do things that Pins cannot. So, the pairing works to some extent. Now, I agree with Koalabear. Orkans would work well. The whole premise of the build is that you wear the red down at a distance then finish them off with the big guns if the red comes near. Any medium hard hitting weapon would do, I think. Keep them comments coming! Tell me what you think. Effective mid-range suppressor or sub-optimal pairing of weapons?
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Post by giraffeman on Sept 14, 2018 17:31:47 GMT -5
Imo, I dont like mixing weapon types.... I at least try to keep range and reaload times similar at a minimum. To hit anyone with all weapons you would have to keep the range of your target between 500 and 300 because of the nori mid range. Also, depending on your leauge I think it would be hard to finish off a bot with a salvo of 2 tulus.
I used to mix stuff when I first started and some worked but most didnt. Nories were especially unique.
Just my thoughts. Good hunting
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Post by bravex on Sept 14, 2018 17:32:46 GMT -5
I don't know if it's viable but I tried it today and it's fun! I killed two guys who thought they were safe behind a low building. The Noris are designed to hit targets more than 300 meters out but if someone gets very close you can shoot at a structure to create splash damage or even try for the Noricum Uppercut if it's a tall enemy. Glad to hear you had fun with it! It's definitely viable but requires more than pushing the big red button. That throws a lot of players off. They are used to similar weapons being paired and having a good synergy in terms of range. Noricums and Tulumbas don't, at least at first glance. BUT, Noris can do things that Pins cannot. So, the pairing works to some extent. Now, I agree with Koalabear. Orkans would work well. The whole premise of the build is that you wear the red down at a distance then finish them off with the big guns if the red comes near. Any medium hard hitting weapon would do, I think. Keep them comments coming! Tell me what you think. Effective mid-range suppressor or sub-optimal pairing of weapons? Noris and Orkans would be stronger but I like how Tulus and Noris both have crazy splash damage. This is a build that specializes in damaging bots behind cover.
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Post by mothbot on Sept 14, 2018 19:53:15 GMT -5
Glad to hear you had fun with it! It's definitely viable but requires more than pushing the big red button. That throws a lot of players off. They are used to similar weapons being paired and having a good synergy in terms of range. Noricums and Tulumbas don't, at least at first glance. BUT, Noris can do things that Pins cannot. So, the pairing works to some extent. Now, I agree with Koalabear. Orkans would work well. The whole premise of the build is that you wear the red down at a distance then finish them off with the big guns if the red comes near. Any medium hard hitting weapon would do, I think. Keep them comments coming! Tell me what you think. Effective mid-range suppressor or sub-optimal pairing of weapons? Noris and Orkans would be stronger but I like how Tulus and Noris both have crazy splash damage. This is a build that specializes in damaging bots behind cover. Me too. If Tulus or Noris had no splash, I wouldn't even attempt it.
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Post by foxypotato on Sept 15, 2018 12:13:13 GMT -5
I've seen Noricum and Hydra before. Last time I saw this Griffin build was pre Specter but I bet it could give a Specter hell. Hit them with Hydra until they hump a wall then rain down the Noricum pain.
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Post by OrangeMegatron on Sept 17, 2018 4:09:07 GMT -5
Tried it out yesterday and it was definitely a different playstyle. Sadly, I didn't get as many hits with the Noricum as I expected; but, I did entice a few 'bots from their cover. The nicest surprise was when I was able to kill a Jesse under 50m by firing my Noris into the wall next to it. Splash damage for the win! This is "karate style"... I have heard rumors some time ago that Noricums can be used in some tunnels... like on carrier... to blast with splash reds on upper deck Still didn't try it
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Post by ystava on Sept 18, 2018 8:38:59 GMT -5
Hi everyone! Thanks to the help provided in an earlier thread, I'm enjoying my RDB Griffin. However, I'm starting to wonder if I should switch out my Pins for Noricums. The reason is Noricums have greater range and have that high artillery arc which can reach behind cover from a distance. I have this idea that I could bombard folks until they are annoyed then finish them off with Tulus. Does this idea have merit or should I stick to Pins and Tulumbas aka Russian Death Button? The >300m range limits Noricums on anything that isn't already a long range bot. I would not mix Tulus with Noricums.
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