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Post by AVC on Aug 11, 2018 6:45:34 GMT -5
And when I say care, I mean they look after them. So here I am, playing away. Get one my usual matches against a Blubber Clan (you know, whales). Not one I'm familiar with, The Black Knights. Game is KOTH. Their top damage scorer is this guy. Over 1 mill. No beacons though. I stuck around to the end (normally I would bang out, but I was on a damage Daily Quest) So yeah. Tanker extraordinaire. He had 2 hangers, both full MK2. I figure I may as well report it FWIW. It seems FWIW is worth very little indeed. Or in fact worthLESS. I go to the tanker reporting form and this is the outcome:
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Post by Domino on Aug 11, 2018 6:57:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 7:00:42 GMT -5
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Post by descentx on Aug 11, 2018 7:24:20 GMT -5
seem to me they abandon what was initial promising to "i don't give a poop."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 9:17:04 GMT -5
Just posted 21 examples on FB and send them also to their email address.
Just from a few days, and not even looked at all battles for them.
Black Knights is notorious for tanking, also those UA clan guys. Actually most russian clans are tanking.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Aug 11, 2018 9:33:29 GMT -5
All they have to do to resolve tanking is set up the system so that each league has a maximum equipment level, and if someone drops into a lower league by accident or intention, all of their gear is automatically set to the maximum of that league
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 9:48:07 GMT -5
Or they get classified based on their gear.
Or you can only drop as much as 1 league level.
The latter also makes it more fun to test out new bot configurations, and not to fear dropping very far in the rankings.
Last 10 matches all included at least 1 tanker... some even more.
Really make one wanting to destroy them. But I am no match for mk2-lv12 dashbots. (I only have a lvl8 Inq, that vaporizes on their crosshairs, the rest is leo/grif/gareth)
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Post by ranchpig on Aug 11, 2018 10:00:23 GMT -5
"Dear Player, Thank you for calling. Here at Pixonix we value your contribution and strive to make sure the needs of every player are met in a timely fashion. Due to high call volumes we're experiencing a slight delay and ask for your patience. A customer service associate will be with you shortly." *cue Girl from Impenima elevator music* Voice over: "have you tried the latest Royale lately? We've introduced even more ways for you to win! Fast and exciting spins, more chances to get the gear you want, Try it today!!!!" *Music continues* "Please continue to hold, we'll be with you shortly...." *Music continues and you actually start to hum along with it* Voice over: "ever wanted to stop your enemies dead in their tracks? Cause them to quake in their boots? Then try the new SHREDDER with ROOT!!!! It will make you the most feared player on the battle field. Everyone tries to run from the ShredMeister!!!! On special for a limited time, Get yours today or gift one for a Clan mate!!!! They can run, but not for long!!!!!!" *Music continues*
Boris answers in deep slow depressing voice, 'Dank you for calling, how can we help?"
" I want to report some tankers, it's crazy ridiculous"
Boris: "Da Da, I understand, have you tried using the Shredder on them? Dey hate that?"
"But I don't have a shredder, I just want to report some cheating"
Boris: "Would you like to get some Shredders, we offering them for big discount if you buy 4?"
"No, I don't want shredders... I mean I do, but that's not why I'm calling."
Boris: "Yes sir, I'm here to help. You are Premium subscriber, yes?"
"Huh? Umm... no. I want to report Tankers, ya know guys who have manipulated the Matchmaking"
Boris: "Da da, we want you to understand benefit of Premium subscription.... It best deal we have going on...."
"Boris, I WANT TO REPORT TANKERS>"
Boris: "Sir, your call is important but calm down. I'm only here to help."
"What?? Help??? All you're doing is giving me the run around and.......
^^^^^^^CLICK^^^^ Dial Tone
Later while shopping you hear "Girl from Ipemina" on the loudspeaker and suddenly start throwing cans of corn down the isles and they take you away in handcuffs.
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Post by bokhumnoy on Aug 11, 2018 10:13:32 GMT -5
In my previous post, I said that I only tanked once and that was true. Now I find that I HAVE to tank in order to progress. In this game environment, you really have to. In my opinion, if you're not tanking, you're not playing the game correctly. Pix isn't exactly giving things away like candy. In order to get them relatively quick, you have to tank. I got back up to Masters II from my last tanking. At this level, you're going up against Champion level players. In order to get the Master level crate, it would take months of grinding. When I tanked back down one level or so, then it resets itself back to Private and go back up. This reset is much better then grinding up to the Master crate.
It's not about MKII Level 12 destroying a Destrier. For me, it's about getting stuff like Tokens and component quickly. Until Pix finds a way to stop being greedy and milking us, we're going to find ways to exploit make it easier for us to progress and get stuff.
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Post by iam99 on Aug 11, 2018 10:28:51 GMT -5
People who play like the tankers - such as black knights- or certain other 'clans' are cowards and a digrace to the game. simple as that I have played so many including black knight in Diamond 3 or even Gold 1 WIth their tanked up L12Mk2 squad.. saaaaad should be ashamed of themselves. im not sure what Pixonic can do - except sanction repeat offenders -
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Post by lewis on Aug 11, 2018 22:29:06 GMT -5
If you eject, -1 kill. Negative kills? No league point movement and no rewards, and you are still on the hook for repairs. Leave without using all your bots? No league point movement and no rewards, and you are still on the hook for repairs. If you want that teleport across the map, pay a price. If it’s really worth it, you end up 0 at least.
No, it wouldn’t end tanking, but it would sure as shinola would slow the fluffers down. As it stands you can easily lose many matches in less than hour,(Note that I am not posting a method.) And don’t give me that bs about being left at 1000 heath and no weapons. You would be dead anyway, and it’s on the other dumb*** for not claiming the kill.
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Post by hyderier on Aug 12, 2018 1:53:05 GMT -5
If you eject, -1 kill. Negative kills? No league point movement and no rewards, and you are still on the hook for repairs. Leave without using all your bots? No league point movement and no rewards, and you are still on the hook for repairs. If you want that teleport across the map, pay a price. If it’s really worth it, you end up 0 at least. No, it wouldn’t end tanking, but it would sure as shinola would slow the fluffers down. As it stands you can easily lose many matches in less than hour,(Note that I am not posting a method.) And don’t give me that bs about being left at 1000 heath and no weapons. You would be dead anyway, and it’s on the other dumb*** for not claiming the kill. Let's assume that Pix doesn't really want to fix the whole thing by introducing hangar power based MM. To fix league based MM, there are a few simple things which would help a lot: First one or two players to mech out can't leave the battle. If they leave and try to get a new battle, they just go back to the old one as spectators, just like after losing the last bot. Also if you have any bots left, you go back to the old battle for as long as it is ongoing, no new battles without complete mech-out. Now both tanking and mode and map skipping is much lower, there is actually an immediate penalty for leaving too soon. Also, simple change to MM period: give 3+ second window to hit "skip" after being shown mode and map you are matched in, while also showing the number of players currently found for the battle. Limit skips to 2 or something to make MM work faster. Make league point gain exponentially relative to total damage done in the battle for winners, so if you outclass others, you are going to go up like a rocket. Staying down in leagues with overpowered hangar is going to be difficult. Make league point loss equal to all losers, so trying to be last losing blue will not help you lose league points any faster. Bang. Suddenly tanking very hard. Even intentionally staying low is very hard, because once you do much more damage than others in your league level, you just can't stay there. And if you don't do any damage, you will neither lose nor gain any league points. Make leagues dynamic, so that there is a fixed % of players in each league (possibly fixed # in Champions). Either "normalize" the league scores daily, or change the thresholds between leagues daily, to make sure there are enough players in each league to be able to have decent MM without mixing leagues. Add win # limits to leagues, something like 500 makes you Gold, 1000 makes you Diamond, 2000 makes you Expert, 400 makes you Master, and it's your responsiblity to have decent bots after playing that many battles.
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Post by descentx on Aug 12, 2018 2:12:19 GMT -5
I think they are working anti tanking system if you even try to drop league you'll face pilots roughly around your hangar strength. earlier today somebody on FB community posted a pic of someone hangar and made a claim they ran into another pilot who was in silver league was still paired up against expert and master regardless their league.
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Post by cheap on Aug 12, 2018 2:18:48 GMT -5
every Tanker i have reported since the past year are still playing an are running amuck in lower leagues, i check their pilot ID from time to time some have quit but most i are still being 「wee-wee」s in lower leagues.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Aug 12, 2018 2:26:25 GMT -5
Guys, save your breath. Its impossible to talk to someone whose head is up his ?bum-bum?. Its impossible to hear anything and when they do say anything its usually full of caca.
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Post by ranchpig on Aug 12, 2018 8:49:09 GMT -5
When I first started playing and encountered Clubbers I was aghast because it's clearly sanctioned cheating. It's clear now that all the naysayers were correct that Pix has no interest, despite their claims to the contrary, in fixing it. It is clearly the easiest way to garner resources and couple that with the fact that there are fully sanctioned Clans that not only encourage but facilitate hardcore tanking and you obviously have a recipe for institutional manipulation/cheating. Sad but that's the reality.
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Post by spartan44 on Aug 12, 2018 18:06:39 GMT -5
H -A -N -G- E -R P- O -W- E- R M -A -T -C -H M -A -K -I -N -G.
Any analysis or "solution" beyond that is a waste of time.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Aug 12, 2018 20:24:56 GMT -5
The main reason they never resolve tanking is that it’s part of the psychology of the sales system, so of course it won’t be resolved, ever
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