trippingriffin
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Post by trippingriffin on Jul 18, 2018 12:25:54 GMT -5
Sorry if I'm diluting this post's content, but I'm currently on the fence between Hydra and Tulumbas for my Spectre.
Both have the same upgrade time and cost and damage per missle, I know the DPS of Tulus is better but when used carefully the Hydra will more likely be on target, not to mention the psychological effect as many have pointed out.
I'm planning to use it primarily to punish Shocktrain users.
What's your opinion?
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Post by Jame-thon on Jul 18, 2018 13:16:05 GMT -5
Both are a support niche build that can be helpful to a squad if used correctly. You'll see a dip in your average damage impact on a game. There's no wrong answer here.
A few factors to help determine which route you go depends on your personal gameplay and playstyle preference? What else do you have in your lineup? Are you still in Expert league? What gear do you have leveled already? When did you have your equipment - pre/post economy change?
With no basis of information on any of the above mentioned, I think Tulu's might be the better route initially. The splash has a larger radius and it can be helpful on other popular bots like the bulgasari's and forcing bots to use their ability as well. Hydras can be annoying, but I find them less efficient if you don't have them leveled near max. It's just an annoying tap that doesn't inflict enough damage. I think tulus, even underleveled have more of an impact and can be used more on a direct confrontational level and more universal on different game modes and maps. Just my 0.02. Good luck.
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Post by iam99 on Jul 18, 2018 14:02:01 GMT -5
Sorry if I'm diluting this post's content, but I'm currently on the fence between Hydra and Tulumbas for my Spectre. Both have the same upgrade time and cost and damage per missle, I know the DPS of Tulus is better but when used carefully the Hydra will more likely be on target, not to mention the psychological effect as many have pointed out. I'm planning to use it primarily to punish Shocktrain users. What's your opinion? Anything that can DESTROY Shocktrain Bulgasari/Spectres on a budget is cool. Good LUCK . I think both would have about the same effect. |
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Post by ekot on Jul 18, 2018 14:09:39 GMT -5
Actually, if you are choosing between the two, I would use hydras. Not because I like it. But thats exactly the point of using it.
It is boring, but it kills dashes bots and spectre if you have patience. Trade off is. If you are on it for 10 min and if the team loses, it is on you. Also dont expect top damage while using it. But for kicks. It pisses off your opponents.
I think tulumbus is more balanced as suppprt bots. Bulgasari stays away from you. And there are plenty of Bulgasaris in Champion league.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jul 18, 2018 14:42:18 GMT -5
In my experience using both, though I love Hydras, if I had to choose, I’d consider the maps, and which weapon is going to be more efficient overall, and that is Tulumbas.
You can get into all the stats stuff, but I’m talking about the practical nature of the weapons in relation to landing hits. With Hydras, despite many people thinking they’re a easy weapon to use, they are actually much harder to use than most of the other weapons because with these you have an ‘adjustment deficit’, constantly having to explore angles to get your salvos to hit. It is not like that with Tulumbas for the most part. They only require slight adjustments to get hits. Also, against Anciles, Tulumbas are more effective, so these will be more useful to the team overall than the psy-op effects of Hydras imo
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Post by linearblade on Jul 18, 2018 17:03:19 GMT -5
If you are gonna play a build whose purpose is never to be seen, why not just save 300 dollars or more and buy the budget spectre (the doc)
Save your spec for tulus. Unless your loaded and have 5 specs, then screw doc
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Post by trippingriffin on Jul 18, 2018 20:26:45 GMT -5
Both are a support niche build that can be helpful to a squad if used correctly. You'll see a dip in your average damage impact on a game. There's no wrong answer here. A few factors to help determine which route you go depends on your personal gameplay and playstyle preference? What else do you have in your lineup? Are you still in Expert league? What gear do you have leveled already? When did you have your equipment - pre/post economy change? With no basis of information on any of the above mentioned, I think Tulu's might be the better route initially. The splash has a larger radius and it can be helpful on other popular bots like the bulgasari's and forcing bots to use their ability as well. Hydras can be annoying, but I find them less efficient if you don't have them leveled near max. It's just an annoying tap that doesn't inflict enough damage. I think tulus, even underleveled have more of an impact and can be used more on a direct confrontational level and more universal on different game modes and maps. Just my 0.02. Good luck. I'm still in Expert 2, all other bots I have are brawler with levelled (9) Orkans, Tarans and Gusts. If I'm going to trap 4 Hydras on my Spectre then I'll need to buy 1 more, the remaining 3 are grandfathered. The only thing I don't like about Tulus is its range, which puts me in ST danger zone. |
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Post by trippingriffin on Jul 18, 2018 20:28:48 GMT -5
If you are gonna play a build whose purpose is never to be seen, why not just save 300 dollars or more and buy the budget spectre (the doc) Save your spec for tulus. Unless your loaded and have 5 specs, then screw doc Thanks for your input. But I'm F2P and got my 2 Spectre from Daily deals and recent Adrian giveaway. Cheers:) |
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Post by godzillasaurus on Jul 18, 2018 20:35:55 GMT -5
Sorry if I'm diluting this post's content, but I'm currently on the fence between Hydra and Tulumbas for my Spectre. Both have the same upgrade time and cost and damage per missle, I know the DPS of Tulus is better but when used carefully the Hydra will more likely be on target, not to mention the psychological effect as many have pointed out. I'm planning to use it primarily to punish Shocktrain users. What's your opinion? If I had a Spectre, I'd go for Tulumbas. Though, since I'm a noob and I'm currently limited to a mid/close range playstyle, Tulu is the cheaper option, and also completes my desires to charge into battle with no teammates. However, since you want to annoy Shocktrains, Hydra is your best choice. Shockasari, Shockaechi, Shockiho, Shocktre and bots of that sort need you to be in their line of sight, and you can make them go mental by hanging back and bombarding them while your teammates keep them from reaching you. So yeah, go Hydra. |
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Post by T34 on Jul 18, 2018 20:42:23 GMT -5
Pic the hydra. I hate to see the Tulu spectre proliferating. They are so annoying.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Jul 18, 2018 20:46:53 GMT -5
Sorry if I'm diluting this post's content, but I'm currently on the fence between Hydra and Tulumbas for my Spectre. Both have the same upgrade time and cost and damage per missle, I know the DPS of Tulus is better but when used carefully the Hydra will more likely be on target, not to mention the psychological effect as many have pointed out. I'm planning to use it primarily to punish Shocktrain users. What's your opinion? If I had a Spectre, I'd go for Tulumbas. Though, since I'm a noob and I'm currently limited to a mid/close range playstyle, Tulu is the cheaper option, and also completes my desires to charge into battle with no teammates. However, since you want to annoy Shocktrains, Hydra is your best choice. Shockasari, Shockaechi, Shockiho, Shocktre and bo ts of that sort need you to be in their line of sight, and you can make them go mental by hanging back and bombarding them while your teammates keep them from reaching you. So yeah, go Hydra. Nup. Soectres small stature means he can use a LOT of cover to avoid hydras, plus you have stealth and it's easy enough Tulums on the other hand, can seriously hunt ST spectres. Most of the good ST spec spots are easily accessible to Tulums and the splash makes them a nightmare. It's so effective once I max my orkans I plan on dropping one of my scourgasaris for a Tulum Spectre. |
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Post by trippingriffin on Jul 18, 2018 20:53:29 GMT -5
Pic the hydra. I hate to see the Tulu spectre proliferating. They are so annoying. Sooo...you meant Tulus are more effective? English is not my first language so I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not:P |
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Jul 18, 2018 20:55:46 GMT -5
Pic the hydra. I hate to see the Tulu spectre proliferating. They are so annoying. Sooo...you meant Tulus are more effective? English is not my first language so I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not:P He is saying they are effective. He doesn't want to face more tulum spectres. |
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Post by T34 on Jul 18, 2018 21:00:21 GMT -5
If I had a Spectre, I'd go for Tulumbas. Though, since I'm a noob and I'm currently limited to a mid/close range playstyle, Tulu is the cheaper option, and also completes my desires to charge into battle with no teammates. However, since you want to annoy Shocktrains, Hydra is your best choice. Shockasari, Shockaechi, Shockiho, Shocktre and bo ts of that sort need you to be in their line of sight, and you can make them go mental by hanging back and bombarding them while your teammates keep them from reaching you. So yeah, go Hydra. Nup. Soectres small stature means he can use a LOT of cover to avoid hydras, plus you have stealth and it's easy enough Tulums on the other hand, can seriously hunt ST spectres. Most of the good ST spec spots are easily accessible to Tulums and the splash makes them a nightmare. It's so effective once I max my orkans I plan on dropping one of my scourgasaris for a Tulum Spectre. Yep. If i know there are hydras around i just go to hydra safe hiding places with my ST spectre and carry on while being utterly annoyed if he keeps targeting me. Also worth remembering that hydra users give up easily if they cant get most of their rockets to hit after curving the hydras every possible way). Last resort is using the jump to get away from a salvo or snuggling up with a haechi.
If I see a tulu spectre I go to the other side of the map. I would have to have a damned good hiding place to avoid the splash. Cant look around the corner either but he can. I am also considering a Tulu setup but not enough levelled tulus.
Edit: when in squad it is so nice to have a guy with tulus on the blue team.
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Post by Payxonic on Jul 18, 2018 23:28:35 GMT -5
Tulumba Spec
- Defense and Offense
- Helps more than hydras
- Synergizes well with stealth jump
Hydra Spec
- Target Magnet
- Liability
- Stealth jumping with hydras? r u serious?
(just do hydrachi-its better)
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Post by oooohmyyy on Jul 19, 2018 0:04:33 GMT -5
Once freezing weapons come out I doubt if spectre's brawling king status swould be lowered, if so I think tulu spectre would rise and shine cuz if you think about, you only need to use jump and shoot technique which doesn't cost your own hp sacrifice to deal dmg most of the times...
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Post by Ancient Fart on Jul 19, 2018 0:12:34 GMT -5
I've attempted this, and had some minor success in expert/master. Didn't thoroughly test it. Spectre - 3x Scourge - 1x Hydra Use hydra to induce enemy to waste a stealth jump, or become exposed from behind cover. Delay, then use your descend to a spot where you will have a clear shot. - with 3x Tulumbas, a Bulgasari might move just enough or waste a dash when getting hit with the hydra (it's hard in the midst of battle to tell if you're getting hit with 1 or multiple hydras) - then unload your Rockets  |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Jul 19, 2018 0:55:34 GMT -5
Sorry, I just glossed the previous posts. I would very much like to disagree that 4 tulus are a support loadout. I run in diamond, and I think they are absolutely devastating when utilized properly. Fielding a tulu spec or doc usually automatically ups my kill count by 4. Its Good direct damage, good area damage, awesome suppressive fire, range and limited required exposure play better to the Specs strengths IMHO.
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Post by cheap on Jul 19, 2018 1:48:37 GMT -5
tulu's all the way! the jump an stealth main reasoning and you don't need lock on like hydras.
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Post by trippingriffin on Jul 19, 2018 2:11:47 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for your valuable inputs. My clan mates advises were to go with Tulumbas too.
Now I have made up my mind and will upgrade them all.
See you on the battlefield pilots:)
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Post by linearblade on Jul 19, 2018 3:59:42 GMT -5
If you are gonna play a build whose purpose is never to be seen, why not just save 300 dollars or more and buy the budget spectre (the doc) Save your spec for tulus. Unless your loaded and have 5 specs, then screw doc Thanks for your input. But I'm F2P and got my 2 Spectre from Daily deals and recent Adrian giveaway. Cheers:) So why waste your limited resources on hydras. Spend 1250 gold put on doc, and now have 2 spectre with tulu or orkans or something awesome. They retailed previously at 300. They ain’t cheaper in new economy... just sayin |
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Post by linearblade on Jul 19, 2018 4:02:58 GMT -5
Tulumba Spec - Defense and Offense - Helps more than hydras - Synergizes well with stealth jump Hydra Spec - Target Magnet - Liability - Stealth jumping with hydras? r u serious? (just do hydrachi-its better) Hydra spectre = troll |
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Post by orionpax on Jul 19, 2018 12:54:19 GMT -5
Sorry if I'm diluting this post's content, but I'm currently on the fence between Hydra and Tulumbas for my Spectre. Both have the same upgrade time and cost and damage per missle, I know the DPS of Tulus is better but when used carefully the Hydra will more likely be on target, not to mention the psychological effect as many have pointed out. I'm planning to use it primarily to punish Shocktrain users. What's your opinion? Tulu spectre over hydra spectre, hands down... |
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