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Post by masshole on Jun 13, 2018 15:02:33 GMT -5
Orkans are powerful in their element. When you are playing Shenzhen and getting hit by a constant barrage of hydra's from across the map even though you are standing behind a 90 story building that they somehow fly around, the orkans dont seem all that powerful anymore. Yamantau? You're luck to get close enough to someone without getting hit by someone else out of range.
I honestly enjoy my RDB Griff more than my PDB or DB Griff cause I can generally hang back a little and still do some solid damage.
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Post by Koko Bop on Jun 13, 2018 16:15:52 GMT -5
I appreciate ALL the responses, and enjoyed many of them.
None of this is meant to be trollish.
Being new here, I just thought I’d say both of those.
When I started a year ago, I had no advice, there seemed to be little or no online presence for Pix or the pilot community. Orkans were expensive, I had five bots, I got slot 5. I played in the old tiers briefly before it was replaced by the league’s, spent the longest time in Bronze, and happy. The first ‘real’ event I remember was last Halloween, and I won an orkan, along with a ton of stuff, including a mountain of silver, but I had figured out that my opponents were getting stronger, and I wasn’t winning as often.
Since then I’ve picked up/won three more, but my dislike for them has been real. I feel like I have more of a feel for tulumbas, I don’t know what makes it different from orkans. Thanks to talking thru this with y’all, I’ve rearranged my load-outs, and Haechi now sports three Orkans. I will see if I can figure out how to work with them.
AND I will see if I can find ways of piloting that help me stay out of that sort of corner-shooting.
Not convinced yet, so carry on....
Oh - ancelot as,ed what league I’m in: diamond 3.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jun 13, 2018 16:19:23 GMT -5
I appreciate ALL the responses, and enjoyed many of them. None of this is meant to be trollish. Being new here, I just thought I’d say both of those. When I started a year ago, I had no advice, there seemed to be little or no online presence for Pix or the pilot community. Orkans were expensive, I had five bots, I got slot 5. I played in the old tiers briefly before it was replaced by the league’s, spent the longest time in Bronze, and happy. The first ‘real’ event I remember was last Halloween, and I won an orkan, along with a ton of stuff, including a mountain of silver, but I had figured out that my opponents were getting stronger, and I wasn’t winning as often. Since then I’ve picked up/won three more, but my dislike for them has been real. I feel like I have more of a feel for tulumbas, I don’t know what makes it different from orkans. Thanks to talking thru this with y’all, I’ve rearranged my load-outs, and Haechi now sports three Orkans. I will see if I can figure out how to work with them. AND I will see if I can find ways of piloting that help me stay out of that sort of corner-shooting. Not convinced yet, so carry on.... And you are exactly the type person we want around here. Whether you keep them or not, you don't just throw our observations and suggestions out the window. Good luck! If you need any further tips just ask! |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Jun 13, 2018 16:42:35 GMT -5
It was the cookies... wasn't it?  Well it was brown for sure. ?  |
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Post by windcaster on Jun 13, 2018 19:12:30 GMT -5
The Darkside, Tasty it is.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Jun 13, 2018 19:27:03 GMT -5
That’s NOT what I said, Danny. I said I’m pretty good at CQC. I’m a brawler at heart. I said I don’t like orkans. Orkans. Heckles, it may just be they have to be 10 or above to wake up, I’ve noticed that with other weapons, and mine are L9. Still has nothing to do with whether it’s cool to kill a bot without a missle coming within splash range, and no, not talking about walking into a missle stream, ‘cause duh, I try hard not to do that - happens, but totally my bad. PS: I like you, too Don't like 'em, that's fine -- nobody says you have to. Orkans are a premium weapon. They do a lot of damage, but you have to get up close and personal to deal it. There's nothing cowardly about that. That's the part I take issue with. Good response anyway -- I will shake your hand for taking the high road there. Now what's the deal with those cookies. |
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Post by r2d2 on Jun 13, 2018 19:32:08 GMT -5
I don’t like tankers either but they’re there....
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Post by Koko Bop on Jun 14, 2018 0:54:13 GMT -5
And since I was here last, I’ve hit a new max damage, a new high avg dmg, and a new high kill avg.
I’ve been caught by one of those wall-sneakers, thinking of new ways to respond to them.
Danny, can’t help with the cookies, I didn’t bake ‘em.
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Post by White1Golf on Jun 14, 2018 16:09:50 GMT -5
I think you are referring to leading the target? Or what looks like "bending the orks" if you are firing them while backing away around a corner. Here is the deal, the splash area of Orks is a measly 5m. There is a video of a bot getting hit by orkans that are shot a little to one side of it. Simply by revolving his torso by 90 degrees, he stopped taking damage as the part of his hitbox within the splash radius was removed. They are actually very precise weapons for Splash munitions. Tulus have about 15 m Splash Radius. You have to VERY careful hanging around corners on Shenzhen (for example) when those are around. Tridents are somewhere around 25 - 30 iirc. I just stay out of their range until they fire, even if it is just to cross a piece of ground that just barely dips into their range. Splash is 10m for Orkans/pinatas/ember, 20m for Tulumbas/pins. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jun 14, 2018 16:15:51 GMT -5
I think you are referring to leading the target? Or what looks like "bending the orks" if you are firing them while backing away around a corner. Here is the deal, the splash area of Orks is a measly 5m. There is a video of a bot getting hit by orkans that are shot a little to one side of it. Simply by revolving his torso by 90 degrees, he stopped taking damage as the part of his hitbox within the splash radius was removed. They are actually very precise weapons for Splash munitions. Tulus have about 15 m Splash Radius. You have to VERY careful hanging around corners on Shenzhen (for example) when those are around. Tridents are somewhere around 25 - 30 iirc. I just stay out of their range until they fire, even if it is just to cross a piece of ground that just barely dips into their range. Splash is 10m for Orkans/pinatas/ember, 20m for Tulumbas/pins. I used to think that too... but have started to feel it's less.
But, I'll say... 5-10 and 15-20.
Unless there is a specific Pixo statement that says otherwise?
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Post by White1Golf on Jun 14, 2018 16:54:28 GMT -5
Splash is 10m for Orkans/pinatas/ember, 20m for Tulumbas/pins. I used to think that too... but have started to feel it's less.
But, I'll say... 5-10 and 15-20.
Unless there is a specific Pixo statement that says otherwise?
That's officially somewhere, but not sure where. Gameplay seems like 1m for Orkans, 100m for Tulumbas >.<. Ember has been tested and confirmed for 10m splash by Anakin I think. |
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Post by Koko Bop on Jun 14, 2018 21:20:31 GMT -5
Splash zone: is that radius or diameter?
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Post by rags on Jun 14, 2018 21:49:46 GMT -5
Splash zone: is that radius or diameter? look bro they’re missiles. They don’t blow up when they hit you, they blow up when they reach the range that you’re at. Basically they detonate once they get close enough to you. It’s like only a few meters. Same reason why tulumbas will still hurt you up to like 505m even tho the max range is 500. Don’t like getting hit by splash? Don’t stand right on the edge of cover or try to chase someone around a corner. |
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Post by Koko Bop on Jun 14, 2018 23:54:31 GMT -5
Well, i didn’t know it was a stupid question when I asked...
In other news, I’ve been working on the ‘Hae Slide’, and racked up at least three kills in one match with it. My orkans are truly blooded now, or lubricated, or something. In doing so, I also set new max damage records twice, and my averages have never been this high.
I appreciate the encouragement, y’all - this is making a clear difference in my results! Thank you ALL!
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Post by windcaster on Jun 15, 2018 3:59:29 GMT -5
Splash zone: is that radius or diameter? Radius |
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Post by Koko Bop on Jun 15, 2018 11:27:01 GMT -5
Thanks!
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Post by garunixreborn on Jun 15, 2018 23:12:29 GMT -5
Can you believe it? Everyoneâ??s *favorite* weapon? War Robots pilots BELIEVE in orkans!!! What the Hubble is WRONG with you, kid? â??No sir, I didnâ??t like itâ?. I think the Orkan is overpowered, impossible to defend against unless you have a jump available, and generally a cowardly way to conduct battle. Consider my most common interaction with orkans: Iâ??m in the field, thereâ??s a red on the other side of the wall, and before I can even expose myself to fire, Iâ??m dead. Orkans fired at where I *could* have been killed me, without a single one of them ever hitting me. This scenario happens practically every battle, to where Iâ??ve started heading the other direction when I notice a red tracking me from out of reach. THAT is some major league bovine product...this ONE â??tacticâ?? is one of the most broken things in the game, and is certainly more havoc-wreaking than the shocktrain, which makes the wailing about ST just so much hypocrisy. I only have the one ST, but I use it for hunting Orkan-carriers. Itâ??s less boring and less obnoxious than the regular Orkan death-by-proxy, and is unorkanlike in its encouragement of new tactics and strategies. Of the five bots in my hangar, TWELVE medium points, only ONE has an Orkan. (I *do* have 4, but I donâ??t like them) PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, STOP THIS!!!! These rock-headed forum members here will NEVER change their opinions no matter how many times you try to tell them. Believe me when I say, I tried to tell them. Using all the statistics, numbers, gameplay, and even solid proofs, they never listened. They always brushed it off as if they meant nothing. It is currently the second highest DPS weapon in the game (It has more DPS than the thunder or the ember. IT HAS MORE DPS THAN A ?fluffernuttering?HEAVY WEAPON!). IF you want to save yourself the headaches and frustration, just leave this topic alone. Nobody will listen no matter how hard you prove them wrong. I still think the orkan is OP and until someone gives me solid proof, I will keep my stance. Or I may just become like them and brush away any proof with a lame excuse like "Well that only happens rarely" or "but how many do you see in blah blah blah" |
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Post by garunixreborn on Jun 15, 2018 23:16:44 GMT -5
I think you are referring to leading the target? Or what looks like "bending the orks" if you are firing them while backing away around a corner. Here is the deal, the splash area of Orks is a measly 5m. There is a video of a bot getting hit by orkans that are shot a little to one side of it. Simply by revolving his torso by 90 degrees, he stopped taking damage as the part of his hitbox within the splash radius was removed. They are actually very precise weapons for Splash munitions. Tulus have about 15 m Splash Radius. You have to VERY careful hanging around corners on Shenzhen (for example) when those are around. Tridents are somewhere around 25 - 30 iirc. I just stay out of their range until they fire, even if it is just to cross a piece of ground that just barely dips into their range. Let me correct you on that. Orkans are 10m, tulumbas 20, trident and zenits 30 |
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