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Post by fearsome on Jun 1, 2018 4:27:35 GMT -5
A lot of people may see players with hangars that def belong in champs league showing they are in masters or lower, are they tankers or are they like me simply refusing to play modes that either they don't like or their hangars don't do well in. Like me they probably get heavily punished for leaving unfavourable modes before the match starts (-22 trophies) for me thats tdm and Koth and with the game often throwing me into either of those modes consecutively up to 5 or 6 times i can drop 100 trophies in a few minutes, it's not that i want to lose those trophies but my hangar is simply not setup for those modes and never does well in them . So change your hangar you say well i would if i could but being retired and on a disability pension i can no longer put the money into the game i would need to spend in order to change my hangar and while my hangar suits BR and Domination 3 of my bots are totally useless when playing tdm or koth.
The result of this is i have resigned myself to never getting above masters 1 no matter how hard i try as i simply cannot and will not play 2 of the modes that seem to come up most often in random battles and until Pixionic restore our ability to choose our mode of play i will remain stuck in what everyone is now calling the tankers league !.
Random Mode only suits those who can afford to have multiple hangars each setup for a different mode of play.
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 1, 2018 6:45:32 GMT -5
A lot of people may see players with hangars that def belong in champs league showing they are in masters or lower, are they tankers or are they like me simply refusing to play modes that either they don't like or their hangars don't do well in. Like me they probably get heavily punished for leaving unfavourable modes before the match starts (-22 trophies) for me thats tdm and Koth and with the game often throwing me into either of those modes consecutively up to 5 or 6 times i can drop 100 trophies in a few minutes, it's not that i want to lose those trophies but my hangar is simply not setup for those modes and never does well in them . So change your hangar you say well i would if i could but being retired and on a disability pension i can no longer put the money into the game i would need to spend in order to change my hangar and while my hangar suits BR and Domination 3 of my bots are totally useless when playing tdm or koth.
The result of this is i have resigned myself to never getting above masters 1 no matter how hard i try as i simply cannot and will not play 2 of the modes that seem to come up most often in random battles and until Pixionic restore our ability to choose our mode of play i will remain stuck in what everyone is now calling the tankers league !.
Random Mode only suits those who can afford to have multiple hangars each setup for a different mode of play.
hitting champion is far harder than it used to be. I’m mk2 a lot of stuff now and I find it hard to go above master master 2. Truth be told, expert and master battles are more fun. As for not being suited to other modes, save up all the gold u can and grab a second hangar that you can tailor for other game modes. It will help you improve your progress in league standing. I have four hangars, and my third hangar is the one I’m liking to run, it’s all beacon runner light bots. And that is best suited to mid expert play. |
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Post by fearsome on Jun 1, 2018 7:11:30 GMT -5
hitting champion is far harder than it used to be. I’m mk2 a lot of stuff now and I find it hard to go above master master 2. Truth be told, expert and master battles are more fun. As for not being suited to other modes, save up all the gold u can and grab a second hangar that you can tailor for other game modes. It will help you improve your progress in league standing. I have four hangars, and my third hangar is the one I’m liking to run, it’s all beacon runner light bots. And that is best suited to mid expert play. Like i said in my post i can no longer spend the sort of money i used to spend on gaming these days i have 1 level 11 weapon the rest are all level 9/10 along witth 4 bots at level 10 and 1 at level 6 any gold i get usually goes on upgrading my current hangar and i can't see myself having the gold to buy a second hangar unless by some miracle i win it in royale lol . I was in champs for the last 3 months with my hangar but recent changes to the game has seen my hangar become well outdated i'm still in masters 1 which i look upon as an accomplishment given the fact i normally dump straight out of any tdm or koth matches which of course loses me 22 trophies each time.
But the aim of this post was not to whine about not making champs but rather provide some insight as to why lower leagues are seeing players with hangars they feel should be in champs in their matches i believe a lot of the players are not there by choice but because of the recent changes to the game like myself .
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Post by Koalabear on Jun 1, 2018 7:24:43 GMT -5
Definitely try to grind for a second hangar soon. TDM and KOTH are brutal if you only have the one hangar built for brawling. It's possible to play though, so I'd advise against leaving them too often. Instead of leaving a TDM match, just wait it out. Don't engage and instead hug a wall so that you are protected from spam bots. Usually by the 5 min mark, regardless of map, the game turns into a brawl as people's long and mid range builds start getting destroyed. A lot of my TDM games end in good old fashioned brawls - which doesn't suit me because my TDM hangar is all mid range builds! As for KOTH, you can park yourself behind cover that is close to the CB location. This way, you can wrack up the damage points and silver and help your team capture that critical beacon. Most KOTH games are decided by which team can hold that CB the longest. And if you lose, and lost -22 points, at least you'll have a bunch of silver.
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 1, 2018 7:37:31 GMT -5
hitting champion is far harder than it used to be. I’m mk2 a lot of stuff now and I find it hard to go above master master 2. Truth be told, expert and master battles are more fun. As for not being suited to other modes, save up all the gold u can and grab a second hangar that you can tailor for other game modes. It will help you improve your progress in league standing. I have four hangars, and my third hangar is the one I’m liking to run, it’s all beacon runner light bots. And that is best suited to mid expert play. Like i said in my post i can no longer spend the sort of money i used to spend on gaming these days i have 1 level 11 weapon the rest are all level 9/10 along witth 4 bots at level 10 and 1 at level 6 any gold i get usually goes on upgrading my current hangar and i can't see myself having the gold to buy a second hangar unless by some miracle i win it in royale lol . I was in champs for the last 3 months with my hangar but recent changes to the game has seen my hangar become well outdated i'm still in masters 1 which i look upon as an accomplishment given the fact i normally dump straight out of any tdm or koth matches which of course loses me 22 trophies each time.
But the aim of this post was not to whine about not making champs but rather provide some insight as to why lower leagues are seeing players with hangars they feel should be in champs in their matches i believe a lot of the players are not there by choice but because of the recent changes to the game like myself .
you really shouldn’t be using your gold to upgrade your hangar faster. I know I do, but I am also way low on silver. I can’t upgrade any of my high level weapons, and you will eventually reach that point too. I’m at the point where I not spending any money either so the advice I give is still relevant. Just from completing your daily tasks you can get a minimum of 1800 keys in one month. That doesn’t include your gold wins, nor does it take into account royale, whose odds have changed to give more gold, so I figure the minimum gold you earn is easily 2500 gold per month. The more you play the higher you can earn. So within three months you could easily have earned a hangar for free. Food for thought if you can save. Ps. I don’t leave matches unless I have to, and poster above saying it’s brutal without multiple hangars is right. |
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Post by fearsome on Jun 1, 2018 8:02:55 GMT -5
you really shouldn’t be using your gold to upgrade your hangar faster. I know I do, but I am also way low on silver. I can’t upgrade any of my high level weapons, and you will eventually reach that point too. I’m at the point where I not spending any money either so the advice I give is still relevant. Just from completing your daily tasks you can get a minimum of 1800 keys in one month. That doesn’t include your gold wins, nor does it take into account royale, whose odds have changed to give more gold, so I figure the minimum gold you earn is easily 2500 gold per month. The more you play the higher you can earn. So within three months you could easily have earned a hangar for free. Food for thought if you can save. Ps. I don’t leave matches unless I have to, and poster above saying it’s brutal without multiple hangars is right. Silver isn't a problem at the moment i have over 500 million silver and can easily generate more by selling all the weapons and bots i have accumalated from playing the bm lol, my biggest annoyance is starting a match and about halfway through seeing my team suddenly shredded down to 1 or 2 players because people has simply given up and left mid match they are the ones that need punishing really not the ones that don't start a match because it's a mode they are not equipped for or don't like playing. |
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 1, 2018 10:37:03 GMT -5
you really shouldn’t be using your gold to upgrade your hangar faster. I know I do, but I am also way low on silver. I can’t upgrade any of my high level weapons, and you will eventually reach that point too. I’m at the point where I not spending any money either so the advice I give is still relevant. Just from completing your daily tasks you can get a minimum of 1800 keys in one month. That doesn’t include your gold wins, nor does it take into account royale, whose odds have changed to give more gold, so I figure the minimum gold you earn is easily 2500 gold per month. The more you play the higher you can earn. So within three months you could easily have earned a hangar for free. Food for thought if you can save. Ps. I don’t leave matches unless I have to, and poster above saying it’s brutal without multiple hangars is right. Silver isn't a problem at the moment i have over 500 million silver and can easily generate more by selling all the weapons and bots i have accumalated from playing the bm lol, my biggest annoyance is starting a match and about halfway through seeing my team suddenly shredded down to 1 or 2 players because people has simply given up and left mid match they are the ones that need punishing really not the ones that don't start a match because it's a mode they are not equipped for or don't like playing. once you’re in a match, you’re already accounted for whether you drop a bot or not. You’re absolutely right that there needs to be less leniency with people who drop bots but don’t play the match. The problem is that some of those people could’ve gotten a phone call they needed to take, or found out they had to do something. I’m not entirely convinced it is all malicious which is probably why pixo is having trouble sorting them out. You know what they say about being in Rome. If I’ve seen two people leave a match, I’m not going to be motivated at all to go grab that beacon, I’m just gonna hang back and keep my bots alive for as long as I can while still doing damage. I mean it is like a 6% chance of winning a 6vs4 scenario, so there’s no reason to be mad. You already know the result so instead just have fun making it hard on reds to kill you. You also have the choice where to place on those losses. Move up with a zeus bot or hang back with a popcorn launcher. To me , there is a lot more variety in those matches, although as previously mentioned, we already know the likelihood of winning so it tends to be futile anyway. The takeaway: just have fun Forgot to mention about the silver: 500 million seems like a lot, but it costs like 70 million to upgrade just one bot to 12, and some of the newer stuff is 170 million just to take it to mk1 12, then you gotta double that amount if you want to mk2 them, and believe me you will. The 40% less power you have to everyone running all mk2 will definately push you to want go that mk2 route. 500 million only took about 1-2 months to go through when I was speeding upgrades. Promise you, you want to choose a different route for your gold. |
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Post by rags on Jun 1, 2018 10:50:30 GMT -5
Bro nobody is gonna say you’re tanking if you’re in masters league... like comon champion is ridiculous nowadays, you need a $5000 account to do well there. Definitely try to grind for a second hangar soon. TDM and KOTH are brutal if you only have the one hangar built for brawling. It's possible to play though, so I'd advise against leaving them too often. Instead of leaving a TDM match, just wait it out. Don't engage and instead hug a wall so that you are protected from spam bots. Usually by the 5 min mark, regardless of map, the game turns into a brawl as people's long and mid range builds start getting destroyed. A lot of my TDM games end in good old fashioned brawls - which doesn't suit me because my TDM hangar is all mid range builds! As for KOTH, you can park yourself behind cover that is close to the CB location. This way, you can wrack up the damage points and silver and help your team capture that critical beacon. Most KOTH games are decided by which team can hold that CB the longest. And if you lose, and lost -22 points, at least you'll have a bunch of silver. Exactly. TDM is a different pace. You need to be patient. It’s a standoff that escalates into a brawl. My only bot with a range outside of 350m is an RDB and I do well in TDM most of the time. I actually enjoy it. Canyon is the toughest for TDM, that’s really the only map I find myself needing more range. |
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Post by hiranine on Jun 1, 2018 10:57:51 GMT -5
To be honest I am in the same as you.
As a new Master's 2, I keep facing champions daily or players with MK2 Dashes and Stock trains.
Every now and then I get thrown into Expert battles and I love the variety there.
It feels more equal and fair, and even though I spent a fair amount of money on the game, I will never do MK2.
I was considering dropping down but when I heard Skirmish is going to become a permanent thing, I decided I would play intensely on Skirmish and only some games in regular mode.
I mean I do see myself becoming a champion someday, but not right now as I have stopped spending money and I have to level all of my stuff to lvl 11. Which will cost a lot.
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 1, 2018 12:50:00 GMT -5
To be honest I am in the same as you. As a new Master's 2, I keep facing champions daily or players with MK2 Dashes and Stock trains. Every now and then I get thrown into Expert battles and I love the variety there. It feels more equal and fair, and even though I spent a fair amount of money on the game, I will never do MK2. I was considering dropping down but when I heard Skirmish is going to become a permanent thing, I decided I would play intensely on Skirmish and only some games in regular mode. I mean I do see myself becoming a champion someday, but not right now as I have stopped spending money and I have to level all of my stuff to lvl 11. Which will cost a lot. if your stuff is 10 overall, you should be max expert 2, not master 2. That’s where becoming whale fodder comes in, and no one I know except for that one guy lurking around the forums, no one I know likes being whale fodder. Tough games yes, but steamrolled in 3 minutes, no. You do realize that running all light bots and going for beacons will help you lose leagues pretty quickly. Most of my beacon runners are at 9 and their weapons are 11-12, and yet I can still lose 500 league point for just running all lights and having some fun. I get fun, easier battles, gold for beacon running, and on the steamroll matches I’m out and into a new match quite quickly due to robo death. I also have 5 mediums bots I can throw in too, which believe me are almost as fun to pilot, but far more effective. I actually believe the new beacon runner meta is medium bots and no longer lights, but I love my little speed devils: jesse, kumiho, pursuer, gareth and last but not least my flaming ostrich. |
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Post by kevmac on Jun 1, 2018 17:17:46 GMT -5
A lot of people may see players with hangars that def belong in champs league showing they are in masters or lower, are they tankers or are they like me simply refusing to play modes that either they don't like or their hangars don't do well in. Like me they probably get heavily punished for leaving unfavourable modes before the match starts (-22 trophies) for me thats tdm and Koth and with the game often throwing me into either of those modes consecutively up to 5 or 6 times i can drop 100 trophies in a few minutes, it's not that i want to lose those trophies but my hangar is simply not setup for those modes and never does well in them . So change your hangar you say well i would if i could but being retired and on a disability pension i can no longer put the money into the game i would need to spend in order to change my hangar and while my hangar suits BR and Domination 3 of my bots are totally useless when playing tdm or koth.
The result of this is i have resigned myself to never getting above masters 1 no matter how hard i try as i simply cannot and will not play 2 of the modes that seem to come up most often in random battles and until Pixionic restore our ability to choose our mode of play i will remain stuck in what everyone is now calling the tankers league !.
Random Mode only suits those who can afford to have multiple hangars each setup for a different mode of play.
I possess an upscale hanger of sorts that some might think belongs to a tanker.Think again ,my skill is not up to my hanger.I'm 62 with bad eyesight slow reflexes and I kinda suck.I try my best and have fun but I'll never make expert.HelI I can't hang in Diamond 3. and I'm fine with that but I'm not a tanker!Pix recently saw fit to place me in the LLQ saying the system detected a drop in my score over a weeks time,well I probably sucked a bit more in that period.I didn't drop down in league . I'm thinking perhaps I was reported by someone that looked at my hanger and determined I shouldn't be in GoldI.Also I never leave matches .Should i be punished for modest skill? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 17:20:20 GMT -5
Hi OP,
I concur with your point (haven't used concur since Stargate ...)
I quit KOTH everytime I get it. Do I feel bad? Absolutely not.
I play a game to have fun, I do not enjoy KOTH. That mode can drop 5 + times in a row, and you know what? I have one life, and I do not want to spend an hour of it after a hard day of work doing something I despise.
Like, I get home from work, tidy the house, make dinner, then play War Robots and watch TV, and all the while my cat is staring at me, screaming or just staring. Then by the time I get my fourth KOTH I'm just like, to hell with this, I have to go to bed soon, and I'm getting stressed out by 「fluffernutter」ing KOTH. 「fluffernutter」 that. I mean, life is too short.
You know what else blows poo? I despise ST, I quit every game I ever saw them in, which brought me to Diamond, way below what my hangar merits, but 「fluffernutter」 it. I reguse to do that 「dookie」.
But now I got a third ST.
I've slapped it on my Bulg and ... now I'm that guy.
I just ... I just feel dirty.
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Post by nocluevok on Jun 1, 2018 17:52:28 GMT -5
kevmac I would write PIX and explain your situation, especially if you haven't left a match.
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Post by nocluevok on Jun 1, 2018 17:54:47 GMT -5
fearsome play FFA. You'll earn more Ag even if you lose.
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Post by fearsome on Jun 1, 2018 18:33:24 GMT -5
I possess an upscale hanger of sorts that some might think belongs to a tanker.Think again ,my skill is not up to my hanger.I'm 62 with bad eyesight slow reflexes and I kinda suck.I try my best and have fun but I'll never make expert.HelI I can't hang in Diamond 3. and I'm fine with that but I'm not a tanker!Pix recently saw fit to place me in the LLQ saying the system detected a drop in my score over a weeks time,well I probably sucked a bit more in that period.I didn't drop down in league . I'm thinking perhaps I was reported by someone that looked at my hanger and determined I shouldn't be in GoldI.Also I never leave matches .Should i be punished for modest skill? Mate your not alone I'm 63 years old also with bad eyesight and slowing reflexes how i am able to be masters 1 i don't know lol but i am and if i can make it there theres hope for you too |
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 1, 2018 19:10:38 GMT -5
A lot of people may see players with hangars that def belong in champs league showing they are in masters or lower, are they tankers or are they like me simply refusing to play modes that either they don't like or their hangars don't do well in. Like me they probably get heavily punished for leaving unfavourable modes before the match starts (-22 trophies) for me thats tdm and Koth and with the game often throwing me into either of those modes consecutively up to 5 or 6 times i can drop 100 trophies in a few minutes, it's not that i want to lose those trophies but my hangar is simply not setup for those modes and never does well in them . So change your hangar you say well i would if i could but being retired and on a disability pension i can no longer put the money into the game i would need to spend in order to change my hangar and while my hangar suits BR and Domination 3 of my bots are totally useless when playing tdm or koth.
The result of this is i have resigned myself to never getting above masters 1 no matter how hard i try as i simply cannot and will not play 2 of the modes that seem to come up most often in random battles and until Pixionic restore our ability to choose our mode of play i will remain stuck in what everyone is now calling the tankers league !.
Random Mode only suits those who can afford to have multiple hangars each setup for a different mode of play.
I possess an upscale hanger of sorts that some might think belongs to a tanker.Think again ,my skill is not up to my hanger.I'm 62 with bad eyesight slow reflexes and I kinda suck.I try my best and have fun but I'll never make expert.HelI I can't hang in Diamond 3. and I'm fine with that but I'm not a tanker!Pix recently saw fit to place me in the LLQ saying the system detected a drop in my score over a weeks time,well I probably sucked a bit more in that period.I didn't drop down in league . I'm thinking perhaps I was reported by someone that looked at my hanger and determined I shouldn't be in GoldI.Also I never leave matches .Should i be punished for modest skill? The answer is yes you should complain and no you shouldn’t be punished for being a average player. No insult intended, I just like to cut straight to the point. I can move from champion back down to expert and never ever get placed in leaver’s Queue. I do get those people on my team though, as I have brought it to pixo attention that I don’t like dropping leagues so that I can squad with people in gold like yourself. They put even worse players than you in my team to artificially raise my league. So basically they are trying to screw me out of good matches with my clan, while never ever fixing or acknowledging that a problem exists. Only thing they do is create temporary band-aid solutions, and I won’t play ball with that. As a clan leader, I shouldn’t be forced to just play in one league. I have people in my clan from bronze to master that want to squad with me but don’t cuz pixo majorly dropped the ball on group squads, we always get steamrolled. We also don’t use comms, it just slows things down more than our already laggy group squads. Should I be punished for their lack of insightfulness or intelligence? Nope. And I haven’t hesitated to put a one star review up for them whenever I felt like they aren’t getting the clue. They need to understand that we, the player base, the people that fund the game, actually control it. Not them. No money, no game. We have the ultimate say, and pixo needs to get a clue and get in line. My two cents |
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 1, 2018 19:22:20 GMT -5
I possess an upscale hanger of sorts that some might think belongs to a tanker.Think again ,my skill is not up to my hanger.I'm 62 with bad eyesight slow reflexes and I kinda suck.I try my best and have fun but I'll never make expert.HelI I can't hang in Diamond 3. and I'm fine with that but I'm not a tanker!Pix recently saw fit to place me in the LLQ saying the system detected a drop in my score over a weeks time,well I probably sucked a bit more in that period.I didn't drop down in league . I'm thinking perhaps I was reported by someone that looked at my hanger and determined I shouldn't be in GoldI.Also I never leave matches .Should i be punished for modest skill? Mate your not alone I'm 63 years old also with bad eyesight and slowing reflexes how i am able to be masters 1 i don't know lol but i am and if i can make it there theres hope for you too as stated before, you’re cannon fodder. Not being a millennial, I’ll take a gander and bet you know what that means. Leages are designed to create a upward motion. You keep advancing until you stop earning gold (and now silver with the new economic changes), at which point you stagnate, and are left with four choices. 1. Lower your league 2. Pay pixonic money (they’ll take as much as you can give, and then ask for more with good offers after you’ve purchased) 3. Deal with it and stay cannon fodder 4. Quit the game I’ve done all but the fourth one. My best suggestion is to grab a second and eventually third hangar when you can. Hangar 1: brawlers Hangar 2: long range Hangar 3: beacon runners Run beacon runners and brawlers until you can afford all three hangars. Now that I think of it: three fast bots and two long range bots as a second hangar and a all brawling or under 500m hangar would serve you pretty well. Why? Could keep you artificially lower and closer to where u belong and not where pixo wants you; or even better help you survive those long range maps or koth with a good score and raise you up. |
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Post by fearsome on Jun 1, 2018 20:35:10 GMT -5
as stated before, youâre cannon fodder. Not being a millennial, Iâll take a gander and bet you know what that means. Leages are designed to create a upward motion. You keep advancing until you stop earning gold (and now silver with the new economic changes), at which point you stagnate, and are left with four choices. 1. Lower your league 2. Pay pixonic money (theyâll take as much as you can give, and then ask for more with good offers after youâve purchased) 3. Deal with it and stay cannon fodder 4. Quit the game Iâve done all but the fourth one. My best suggestion is to grab a second and eventually third hangar when you can. Hangar 1: brawlers Hangar 2: long range Hangar 3: beacon runners Run beacon runners and brawlers until you can afford all three hangars. Now that I think of it: three fast bots and two long range bots as a second hangar and a all brawling or under 500m hangar would serve you pretty well. Why? Could keep you artificially lower and closer to where u belong and not where pixo wants you; or even better help you survive those long range maps or koth with a good score and raise you up. mate i refuse to be just cannon fodder lol i go hard every match, i'm a brawler and love being up where the action is killing 「dookie」 you can probably tell that from my hangar i've tried to balance it for speed and brawling as i prefer the smaller maps lol  |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Jun 2, 2018 3:40:11 GMT -5
Mate your not alone I'm 63Â years old also with bad eyesight and slowing reflexes how i am able to be masters 1Â i don't know lol but i am and if i can make it there theres hope for you too as stated before, youâre cannon fodder. Not being a millennial, Iâll take a gander and bet you know what that means. Leages are designed to create a upward motion. You keep advancing until you stop earning gold (and now silver with the new economic changes), at which point you stagnate, and are left with four choices. 1. Lower your league 2. Pay pixonic money (theyâll take as much as you can give, and then ask for more with good offers after youâve purchased) 3. Deal with it and stay cannon fodder 4. Quit the game Iâve done all but the fourth one. My best suggestion is to grab a second and eventually third hangar when you can. Hangar 1: brawlers Hangar 2: long range Hangar 3: beacon runners Run beacon runners and brawlers until you can afford all three hangars. Now that I think of it: three fast bots and two long range bots as a second hangar and a all brawling or under 500m hangar would serve you pretty well. Why? Could keep you artificially lower and closer to where u belong and not where pixo wants you; or even better help you survive those long range maps or koth with a good score and raise you up. The "leagues" are pointless from day one. "Match players by their leagues" my butt. It hasn't been that way since day one either. We already had true tankers and they popped up almost immediately. And PIXONIC didn't do diddly and actually never has. Low-Priority Queue is just a means of trying to force players to stay in matches and modes that PIXONIC already knew players would not want to play or enjoy. I quit Android because of Random. I absolutely hate BR, TDM and KotH and I simply will not play them ever. I moved over to Amazon where there is no LPQ and I have left over 50-60 matches in a row once on separate mode BR weekend because they left BR in the mix and they were running more of the other three modes in Random than usual. No LPQ awaited me for doing so. I sympathize with the OP. I got labeled a tanker as well because I simply refused to give homage to those stupid "leagues". If you really want to rank players you do so by their playing statistics and abilities, not the equipment in their hangers. I ran whatever the hell I wanted in Android because that was how I was enjoying the game. Get sick of your heavies then switch to a full light or medium loadout. The consequence was that I'd start losing those ridiculous "ranking points" faster than I could regain them and drop through up to 9 ranks. Next thing I know I'm running in Bronze and I'm bored playing with my mediums and lights. Bang! I'm now a tanker with one hanger change. So 「fluffernutter」 those stupid "leagues". They are as worthless as a pile of gnat turds. I tell you what, the Amazon servers are exceptionally fun to play in since I can dump any game mode that I do not choose to play for myself. I made Champion with 4/4 gear by level 29 with a 3 slot hanger and I have never lost the rank. Now I've got 6-8/bots with 8-12/gear and I romp and stomp even when facing full Mk2/12 hangers. I don't often win those encounters of course but it's still a blast and far more enjoyable than being deprived of rewards while suffering through long matchmaking times. So fearsome, I'd recommend getting the Amazon appstore installed on your device if you can and just dump whatever OS you're running now. If that's not an option save up for a refurbished Amazon Fire tablet and come have a great time again playing only the game modes that you actually want to play without fear of the dreaded LPQ. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 4:05:53 GMT -5
My 2, stay one or two leagues below where you "should be" and don't pay 「dookie」 to Pixonic.
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Post by fearsome on Jun 2, 2018 4:47:08 GMT -5
The "leagues" are pointless from day one. "Match players by their leagues" my butt. It hasn't been that way since day one either. We already had true tankers and they popped up almost immediately. And PIXONIC didn't do diddly and actually never has. Low-Priority Queue is just a means of trying to force players to stay in matches and modes that PIXONIC already knew players would not want to play or enjoy. I quit Android because of Random. I absolutely hate BR, TDM and KotH and I simply will not play them ever. I moved over to Amazon where there is no LPQ and I have left over 50-60 matches in a row once on separate mode BR weekend because they left BR in the mix and they were running more of the other three modes in Random than usual. No LPQ awaited me for doing so. I sympathize with the OP. I got labeled a tanker as well because I simply refused to give homage to those stupid "leagues". If you really want to rank players you do so by their playing statistics and abilities, not the equipment in their hangers. I ran whatever the hell I wanted in Android because that was how I was enjoying the game. Get sick of your heavies then switch to a full light or medium loadout. The consequence was that I'd start losing those ridiculous "ranking points" faster than I could regain them and drop through up to 9 ranks. Next thing I know I'm running in Bronze and I'm bored playing with my mediums and lights. Bang! I'm now a tanker with one hanger change. So ?fluffernutter? those stupid "leagues". They are as worthless as a pile of gnat turds. I tell you what, the Amazon servers are exceptionally fun to play in since I can dump any game mode that I do not choose to play for myself. I made Champion with 4/4 gear by level 29 with a 3 slot hanger and I have never lost the rank. Now I've got 6-8/bots with 8-12/gear and I romp and stomp even when facing full Mk2/12 hangers. I don't often win those encounters of course but it's still a blast and far more enjoyable than being deprived of rewards while suffering through long matchmaking times. So fearsome , I'd recommend getting the Amazon appstore installed on your device if you can and just dump whatever OS you're running now. If that's not an option save up for a refurbished Amazon Fire tablet and come have a great time again playing only the game modes that you actually want to play without fear of the dreaded LPQ. The league system is definitely not an ideal platform to base matchmaking on because as pointed out by using lower tiered bots a champs player can easily drop leagues before restoring his high tiered hangar ! Matchmaking has more chance of working if you base it on hangar strength in use so should a champs player want to muck about in say bronze league he simply loads up his hangar with cossacks geppards etc he can then compete on a level basis with the bronze league players his only advantage being his knowledge of the game . leagues as they stand currently are not really an indicator of a players skill especially when a player can simply purchase a hangar full of the latest tech fully upgraded and mked making him virtually un-beatable in a match. Leagues however can be used to regulate the rewards a player receives the higher the league the better the rewards and by using a system of matchmaking based purely on the hangar strength while basing rewards on activity and trophies gained tanking would be eliminated and a sense of fairness would return to the game, new players coming in would be able to actually compete with and against more experienced players learning with each battle higher ranked players bored with fighting at the top level could slum it without incurring the wrath of the low tier or new player base, add to the the ability to choose the type of match you enter rather than use a random draw and suddenly a lot of the problems with the game go away and player satisfaction increases add to the mix increased supply and battle rewards for vip players and suddenly the game starts generating more stable reliable income allowing for greater planned development and growth of the game. |
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Post by kevmac on Jun 2, 2018 17:40:40 GMT -5
I possess an upscale hanger of sorts that some might think belongs to a tanker.Think again ,my skill is not up to my hanger.I'm 62 with bad eyesight slow reflexes and I kinda suck.I try my best and have fun but I'll never make expert.HelI I can't hang in Diamond 3. and I'm fine with that but I'm not a tanker!Pix recently saw fit to place me in the LLQ saying the system detected a drop in my score over a weeks time,well I probably sucked a bit more in that period.I didn't drop down in league . I'm thinking perhaps I was reported by someone that looked at my hanger and determined I shouldn't be in GoldI.Also I never leave matches .Should i be punished for modest skill? Mate your not alone I'm 63 years old also with bad eyesight and slowing reflexes how i am able to be masters 1 i don't know lol but i am and if i can make it there theres hope for you too Nice to hear from another senior citizen ,I just got promoted to Diamond 3 today.This will be my 3rd crack at it and maybe the charm.I don't have any desires to become a top gun but I try to improve always,and of course have fun! Cheers to you and your success ! |
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Post by kevmac on Jun 2, 2018 17:49:41 GMT -5
I possess an upscale hanger of sorts that some might think belongs to a tanker.Think again ,my skill is not up to my hanger.I'm 62 with bad eyesight slow reflexes and I kinda suck.I try my best and have fun but I'll never make expert.HelI I can't hang in Diamond 3. and I'm fi5ne with that but I'm not a tanker!Pix recently saw fit to place me in the LLQ saying the system detected a drop in my score over a weeks time,well I probably sucked a bit more in that period.I didn't drop down in league . I'm thinking perhaps I was reported by someone that looked at my hanger and determined I shouldn't be in GoldI.Also I never leave matches .Should i be punished for modest skill? The answer is yes you should complain and no you shouldn’t be punished for being a average player. No insult intended, I just like to cut straight to the point. I can move from champion back down to expert and never ever get placed in leaver’s Queue. I do get those people on my team though, as I have brought it to pixo attention that I don’t like dropping leagues so that I can squad with people in gold like yourself. They put even worse players than you in my team to artificially raise my league. So basically they are trying to screw me out of good matches with my clan, while never ever fixing or acknowledging that a problem exists. Only thing they do is create temporary band-aid solutions, and I won’t play ball with that. As a clan leader, I shouldn’t be forced to just play in one league. I have people in my clan from bronze to master that want to squad with me but don’t cuz pixo majorly dropped the ball on group squads, we always get steamrolled. We also don’t use comms, it just slows things down more than our already laggy group squads. Should I be punished for their lack of insightfulness or intelligence? Nope. And I haven’t hesitated to put a one star review up for them whenever I felt like they aren’t getting the clue. They need to understand that we, the player base, the people that fund the game, actually control it. Not them. No money, no game. We have the ultimate say, and pixo needs to get a clue and get in line. My two cents Yes MM is a mess.I've been in matches with players ranging from silver to expert and when I question Pix they roll out their prepared guidline not an answer.And have you noticed you can't give only one star the way Pix has it set up. |
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 3, 2018 6:00:36 GMT -5
The answer is yes you should complain and no you shouldn’t be punished for being a average player. No insult intended, I just like to cut straight to the point. I can move from champion back down to expert and never ever get placed in leaver’s Queue. I do get those people on my team though, as I have brought it to pixo attention that I don’t like dropping leagues so that I can squad with people in gold like yourself. They put even worse players than you in my team to artificially raise my league. So basically they are trying to screw me out of good matches with my clan, while never ever fixing or acknowledging that a problem exists. Only thing they do is create temporary band-aid solutions, and I won’t play ball with that. As a clan leader, I shouldn’t be forced to just play in one league. I have people in my clan from bronze to master that want to squad with me but don’t cuz pixo majorly dropped the ball on group squads, we always get steamrolled. We also don’t use comms, it just slows things down more than our already laggy group squads. Should I be punished for their lack of insightfulness or intelligence? Nope. And I haven’t hesitated to put a one star review up for them whenever I felt like they aren’t getting the clue. They need to understand that we, the player base, the people that fund the game, actually control it. Not them. No money, no game. We have the ultimate say, and pixo needs to get a clue and get in line. My two cents Yes MM is a mess.I've been in matches with players ranging from silver to expert and when I question Pix they roll out their prepared guidline not an answer.And have you noticed you can't give only one star the way Pix has it set up. please be more specific, are you talking about the one star then what did we do wrong on the in game help? Or the App Store review? I’ve given 1 Star in both places, and somehow my App Store review disappeared. My one star reviews in game help, those usually get me to a real person With real answers the next time I ask for help. One time I waited for two weeks, no response. I got pissed and just said straight up, companies who ignore their paying customers don’t get respect and they do get 1 star reviews. I gave em a two star that time but I still got a real person two days later when I opened a support ticket. I actually talk to them fairly often. When there are not a lot of people online, you will see wider ranging opponents. And matchmaker is designed to take from one league above and below you to create a match. It could also be that those silvers are meant to be in higher leagues. I’ve played in expert matches against gold level mk2 12 opponents, just figured they realized those people were too low and stuck them in matches where they deserved to be. |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Jun 3, 2018 8:50:59 GMT -5
TooSchoolForCool, unless something has profoundly changed since January that was never my experience. I was legitimately in Gold finding myself thrown into matches with Masters and Diamonds on a regular basis. I received dozens of responses from "tech support" stating that the reason I was seeing higher ranked players was because of a dearth of players in the higher leagues and thus they had to make room for them in the lower leagues. I called it bull「dookie」. They were simply allowing those players to deprive us lower ranks of much needed and wanted rewards. As for rating the game it happened that everytime I changed my rating to one star on Google Play it got deleted. After doing it ten times I just gave up.
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Jun 3, 2018 9:58:19 GMT -5
Good to see guys older than I am (51) playing War Robots! Geezers, ho!
I've been in Champion, been in the #1 clan, had 100% wins, all that mess. Since MK2, Crutchtrain and the Cash bots plopped on us from the Great Pixonic Bunghole, I've stopped caring about any of it. I've never paid a dime into War Robots, and I never will. No problem with those who do, I'm just not going to.
League rank doesn't matter, since players can manipulate their league rank at will.
Just play what you like and have fun.
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Jun 3, 2018 12:44:12 GMT -5
TooSchoolForCool, unless something has profoundly changed since January that was never my experience. I was legitimately in Gold finding myself thrown into matches with Masters and Diamonds on a regular basis. I received dozens of responses from "tech support" stating that the reason I was seeing higher ranked players was because of a dearth of players in the higher leagues and thus they had to make room for them in the lower leagues. I called it bull?dookie?. They were simply allowing those players to deprive us lower ranks of much needed and wanted rewards. As for rating the game it happened that everytime I changed my rating to one star on Google Play it got deleted. After doing it ten times I just gave up. I could swear the changed it since then. |
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Post by kevmac on Jun 3, 2018 13:32:14 GMT -5
Yes MM is a mess.I've been in matches with players ranging from silver to expert and when I question Pix they roll out their prepared guidline not an answer.And have you noticed you can't give only one star the way Pix has it set up. please be more specific, are you talking about the one star then what did we do wrong on the in game help? Or the App Store review? I’ve given 1 Star in both places, and somehow my App Store review disappeared. My one star reviews in game help, those usually get me to a real person With real answers the next time I ask for help. One time I waited for two weeks, no response. I got pissed and just said straight up, companies who ignore their paying customers don’t get respect and they do get 1 star reviews. I gave em a two star that time but I still got a real person two days later when I opened a support ticket. I actually talk to them fairly often. When there are not a lot of people online, you will see wider ranging opponents. And matchmaker is designed to take from one league above and below you to create a match. It could also be that those silvers are meant to be in higher leagues. I’ve played in expert matches against gold level mk2 12 opponents, just figured they realized those people were too low and stuck them in matches where they deserved to be. Sorry for the misunderstanding,I was talking about Pix when they ask if you are satisfied with their response to an issue which I hardly ever am.The thing on MM is when they place pilots with a 3k higher rating and that has happened to me ,not fair competition imo.When I asked Pix about it I got the predisposed MM rules that avoided answering my concern and went against the response.I've never really gotten answers to my problems just lip service. |
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