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Post by harryhans3n on May 24, 2018 4:42:32 GMT -5
I have here a picture that will help players to gauge their progress towards the Super Chest. It takes 12,500 Keys to reach Super Chest as tested by various parties. There number quoted by Pixo Customer service is 'Approximately 12,700 keys' instead. The progression bar is NON-LINEAR. Across the bar, I have indicated vertical line markers for players to compare with their screen to roughly estimate how much they have done and how many more keys they still need. Each Marker is labelled a Number of Keys. Each marker is aligned to the text above it for players to estimate their own progression. Lastly each marker has a Number of Days labelled. As each Black Market season is 30 days. Always starting at First day of the month till the last day of the month. The marker is to allow players to gauge if they are on schedule to reach 12,500 keys by the 30th day. original data obtained from Matt Geiger www.facebook.com/groups/walkingwarrobots/permalink/833019733566854/
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Post by stamos65 on Jun 5, 2018 2:29:30 GMT -5
This needs a sticky.Mods?
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Post by milty72 on Jun 5, 2018 3:51:42 GMT -5
This needs to be printed off and laminated.
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Post by windcaster on Jun 5, 2018 3:54:33 GMT -5
This needs to be printed off and laminated. Why Pix will just shuffle the deck on us again in a few months. I do agree though, Sticky.
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Post by stamos65 on Jun 5, 2018 5:16:13 GMT -5
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Post by xpecx on Jun 5, 2018 9:47:08 GMT -5
does free chest count?
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Post by windcaster on Jun 5, 2018 9:52:15 GMT -5
yes ad spun chests count as a bronze chest opening (10 keys)
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Post by EatStinkyTofu on Jun 5, 2018 11:07:16 GMT -5
This needs to be printed off and laminated. T-shirts
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Post by Deadeye on Jun 5, 2018 11:28:50 GMT -5
I've sticky-ed. I can't help with t-shirts though. Good stuff guys!
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Post by Arcadia on Jun 7, 2018 15:44:11 GMT -5
Since I’m currently in Diamond II...
• All ads to bronze is 50 keys per day x 30 days = 1500 keys per month. • Diamond supply chest is 24 keys per three hours x 8 = 192 keys per day. Then 192 keys per day x 30 = 5760 keys. • 5760 keys + 1500 keys = 7260 keys. 12500 keys - 7260 keys = 5240 additional keys needed to earn 1 superchest.
• 5240 keys / 30 days = ~175 additional keys per day. • Assuming perfect play I get 5 keys per battle + an ad equivalent to another 10 keys, or 15 keys. • That’s ~12 wins at the top of the leaderboard for my side. • Assuming battles will average out at ~7 minutes, that means I must play for roughly an hour and a half every day.
• However, in practice perfect play cannot be assumed because that means I would be increasing in rank and getting better supply drops. • Thus we will assume I will average one loss for each win, doubling my required playtime each day to roughly three hours.
If you’re single and have a job with decent hours you might be able to swing that, but it will take up virtually all of your free time and seems to border on obsessive imo.
Superchest thus does not seem readily viable to me until one is in Master League.
In Masters III...
• 50 x 30 = 1500 keys per month • 32 x 8 = 256, 256 x 30 = 7680 keys per month • 7680 + 1500 = 9180 total passive keys per month • 12500 - 9180 = 3320 extra keys needed • 3320 / 30 = ~111 extra keys needed per day • 111 / 15 = ~7.5 perfect battles per day • ~7.5 x 2 = ~15 battles per day under consistently ideal conditions • 15 x ~7 min average = 1 hour and 45 minutes per day
...which is still a lot of playing imo, but feasible if you really want a superchest each month.
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Post by moody on Jun 7, 2018 17:11:07 GMT -5
Since I’m currently in Diamond II... • All ads to bronze is 50 keys per day x 30 days = 1500 keys per month. • Diamond supply chest is 24 keys per three hours x 8 = 192 keys per day. Then 192 keys per day x 30 = 5760 keys. • 5760 keys + 1500 keys = 7260 keys. 12500 keys - 7260 keys = 5240 additional keys needed to earn 1 superchest. • 5240 keys / 30 days = ~175 additional keys per day. • Assuming perfect play I get 5 keys per battle + an ad equivalent to another 10 keys, or 15 keys. • That’s ~12 wins at the top of the leaderboard for my side. • Assuming battles will average out at ~7 minutes, that means I must play for roughly an hour and a half every day. • However, in practice perfect play cannot be assumed because that means I would be increasing in rank and getting better supply drops. • Thus we will assume I will average one loss for each win, doubling my required playtime each day to roughly three hours. If you’re single and have a job with decent hours you might be able to swing that, but it will take up virtually all of your free time and seems to border on obsessive imo. Superchest thus does not seem readily viable to me until one is in Master League. In Masters III... • 50 x 30 = 1500 keys per month • 32 x 8 = 256, 256 x 30 = 7680 keys per month • 7680 + 1500 = 9180 total passive keys per month • 12500 - 9180 = 3320 extra keys needed • 3320 / 30 = ~111 extra keys needed per day • 111 / 15 = ~7.5 perfect battles per day • ~7.5 x 2 = ~15 battles per day under consistently ideal conditions • 15 x ~7 min average = 1 hour and 45 minutes per day ...which is still a lot of playing imo, but feasible if you really want a superchest each month. There is a missed source here. I average at least 25 keys a day from royal games.
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Post by Arcadia on Jun 7, 2018 20:27:33 GMT -5
Since I’m currently in Diamond II... • All ads to bronze is 50 keys per day x 30 days = 1500 keys per month. • Diamond supply chest is 24 keys per three hours x 8 = 192 keys per day. Then 192 keys per day x 30 = 5760 keys. • 5760 keys + 1500 keys = 7260 keys. 12500 keys - 7260 keys = 5240 additional keys needed to earn 1 superchest. • 5240 keys / 30 days = ~175 additional keys per day. • Assuming perfect play I get 5 keys per battle + an ad equivalent to another 10 keys, or 15 keys. • That’s ~12 wins at the top of the leaderboard for my side. • Assuming battles will average out at ~7 minutes, that means I must play for roughly an hour and a half every day. • However, in practice perfect play cannot be assumed because that means I would be increasing in rank and getting better supply drops. • Thus we will assume I will average one failure for each success, doubling my required playtime each day to roughly three hours. If you’re single and have a job with decent hours you might be able to swing that, but it will take up virtually all of your free time and seems to border on obsessive imo. Superchest thus does not seem readily viable to me until one is in Master League. In Masters III... • 50 x 30 = 1500 keys per month • 32 x 8 = 256, 256 x 30 = 7680 keys per month • 7680 + 1500 = 9180 total passive keys per month • 12500 - 9180 = 3320 extra keys needed • 3320 / 30 = ~111 extra keys needed per day • 111 / 15 = ~7.5 perfect battles per day • ~7.5 x 2 = ~15 battles per day under consistently ideal conditions • 15 x ~7 min average = 1 hour and 45 minutes per day ...which is still a lot of playing imo, but feasible if you really want a superchest each month. There is a missed source here. I average at least 25 keys a day from royal games. Crap. That’s a good point. Thanks for pointing that out. So going back to Diamond II... • ~25 x 30 = 750 • 5760 + 1500 + 750 = 8010 total passive keys per month • 12500 - 8010 = 4490 extra keys needed • 4490 / 30 = ~150 keys needed per day • 150 / 15 = 10 perfect battles per day • 10 x 2 = 20 battles per day under consistently ideal conditions • 20 x ~7 min average = 2 hours and 20 minutes per day For Masters III... • ~25 x 30 = 750 • 7680 + 1500 + 750 = 9930 total passive keys per month • 12500 - 9930 = 2570 extra keys needed • 2570 / 30 = ~86 keys needed per day • 86 / 15 = ~6 perfect battles per day • 6 x 2 = 12 battles per day under consistently ideal conditions • 12 x ~7 min average = 1 hour and 24 minutes So factoring that in saves you roughly 40 minutes a day in Diamond II and 20 minutes a day in Masters III. My verdict on each is still generally the same, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 22:09:27 GMT -5
This needs to be printed off and laminated. Why Pix will just shuffle the deck on us again in a few months. I do agree though, Sticky. Ha, I was going to write the same thing.
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Post by moody on Jun 7, 2018 23:28:14 GMT -5
There is a missed source here. I average at least 25 keys a day from royal games. Crap. That’s a good point. Thanks for pointing that out. So going back to Diamond II... • ~25 x 30 = 750 • 5760 + 1500 + 750 = 8010 total passive keys per month • 12500 - 8010 = 4490 extra keys needed • 4490 / 30 = ~150 keys needed per day • 150 / 15 = 10 perfect battles per day • 10 x 2 = 20 battles per day under consistently ideal conditions • 20 x ~7 min average = 2 hours and 20 minutes per day For Masters III... • ~25 x 30 = 750 • 7680 + 1500 + 750 = 9930 total passive keys per month • 12500 - 9930 = 2570 extra keys needed • 2570 / 30 = ~86 keys needed per day • 86 / 15 = ~6 perfect battles per day • 6 x 2 = 12 battles per day under consistently ideal conditions • 12 x ~7 min average = 1 hour and 24 minutes So factoring that in saves you roughly 40 minutes a day in Diamond II and 20 minutes a day in Masters III. My verdict on each is still generally the same, though. In masters 3, Given that I got my superchest with about a day to go last month I think that 20 minutes a day saved me And I got half a spark
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Post by moody on Jun 7, 2018 23:30:39 GMT -5
There is a missed source here. I average at least 25 keys a day from royal games. Crap. That’s a good point. Thanks for pointing that out. So going back to Diamond II... • ~25 x 30 = 750 • 5760 + 1500 + 750 = 8010 total passive keys per month • 12500 - 8010 = 4490 extra keys needed • 4490 / 30 = ~150 keys needed per day • 150 / 15 = 10 perfect battles per day • 10 x 2 = 20 battles per day under consistently ideal conditions • 20 x ~7 min average = 2 hours and 20 minutes per day For Masters III... • ~25 x 30 = 750 • 7680 + 1500 + 750 = 9930 total passive keys per month • 12500 - 9930 = 2570 extra keys needed • 2570 / 30 = ~86 keys needed per day • 86 / 15 = ~6 perfect battles per day • 6 x 2 = 12 battles per day under consistently ideal conditions • 12 x ~7 min average = 1 hour and 24 minutes So factoring that in saves you roughly 40 minutes a day in Diamond II and 20 minutes a day in Masters III. My verdict on each is still generally the same, though. And having said that. you missed another source. Every battle is another ad = to an additional 10 keys. your 12 battles a day x 30 x 10 is 3600 keys. I think you could probably ( close to ) halve the battles needed.
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Post by darkknight on Jun 8, 2018 0:36:09 GMT -5
There is a missed source here. I average at least 25 keys a day from royal games. Crap. That’s a good point. Thanks for pointing that out. So going back to Diamond II... • ~25 x 30 = 750 • 5760 + 1500 + 750 = 8010 total passive keys per month • 12500 - 8010 = 4490 extra keys needed • 4490 / 30 = ~150 keys needed per day • 150 / 15 = 10 perfect battles per day • 10 x 2 = 20 battles per day under consistently ideal conditions • 20 x ~7 min average = 2 hours and 20 minutes per day For Masters III... • ~25 x 30 = 750 • 7680 + 1500 + 750 = 9930 total passive keys per month • 12500 - 9930 = 2570 extra keys needed • 2570 / 30 = ~86 keys needed per day • 86 / 15 = ~6 perfect battles per day • 6 x 2 = 12 battles per day under consistently ideal conditions • 12 x ~7 min average = 1 hour and 24 minutes So factoring that in saves you roughly 40 minutes a day in Diamond II and 20 minutes a day in Masters III. My verdict on each is still generally the same, though. You missed fb giveaways. Its 1000 keys for champs and they do it every week. Assuming you can enter id in atleast 2 of them, its 2000 keys for champs. You can calaculate for masters though
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Post by darkknight on Jun 8, 2018 0:37:26 GMT -5
Crap. That’s a good point. Thanks for pointing that out. So going back to Diamond II... • ~25 x 30 = 750 • 5760 + 1500 + 750 = 8010 total passive keys per month • 12500 - 8010 = 4490 extra keys needed • 4490 / 30 = ~150 keys needed per day • 150 / 15 = 10 perfect battles per day• 10 x 2 = 20 battles per day under consistently ideal conditions • 20 x ~7 min average = 2 hours and 20 minutes per day For Masters III... • ~25 x 30 = 750 • 7680 + 1500 + 750 = 9930 total passive keys per month • 12500 - 9930 = 2570 extra keys needed • 2570 / 30 = ~86 keys needed per day • 86 / 15 = ~6 perfect battles per day • 6 x 2 = 12 battles per day under consistently ideal conditions • 12 x ~7 min average = 1 hour and 24 minutes So factoring that in saves you roughly 40 minutes a day in Diamond II and 20 minutes a day in Masters III. My verdict on each is still generally the same, though. And having said that. you missed another source. Every battle is another ad = to an additional 10 keys. your 12 battles a day x 30 x 10 is 3600 keys. I think you could probably ( close to ) halve the battles needed. He did. 150/15= 10 perfect battles, from that he means 5 keys from battle and add spin worth 10 keys. So he assumed 15 keys per battle if you win each of them and score max
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Post by moody on Jun 8, 2018 0:47:47 GMT -5
And having said that. you missed another source. Every battle is another ad = to an additional 10 keys. your 12 battles a day x 30 x 10 is 3600 keys. I think you could probably ( close to ) halve the battles needed. He did. 150/15= 10 perfect battles, from that he means 5 keys from battle and add spin worth 10 keys. So he assumed 15 keys per battle if you win each of them and score max Thanks for that. just wasn't obvious.
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Post by getdead151 on Jun 8, 2018 1:50:45 GMT -5
Opened my first ever Gold Chest...
2000 Tempest
Expected much worse
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Post by elttaes on Jun 9, 2018 14:08:17 GMT -5
Thank you for this, this is fantastic!
On my display it shows how many days left, rather than what day we are on, so the progression should go... 2k=26 days left, then 23, 21, 18, 16, 14, 11, 9, 6, 4 and 2 days left.
Just a quick translation for those of us trying to turn it around in our heads.
PS: while I'm thinking of it, there's another avenue for getting keys- the chests you open! If I'm doing my math right, you get about 1 key for every 17 that you spend opening Bronze chests. On the other hand, you get about 1 key for every 7 keys you spend opening silver chests. It's not a massive number, but it can make reaching that super chest slightly easier. I've been doing Bronze for the tokens and the gold, but I might have to switch to silver for much better key and Ag results. Hmm.
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Post by windcaster on Jun 9, 2018 14:24:38 GMT -5
correct, the progression on teh chart is of 1k keys and shows where you need to be by X day in to be on schedule to get a SC. You're right it would be easier to follow if they had numbered the days backwards.. however I'd just use it as a reference for % complete.
Most people probably don't play the same amount each day.. some days a lot and other days maybe not at all.
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Post by drunkfish on Jun 10, 2018 12:48:04 GMT -5
This needs to be printed off and laminated. Pix formula is like this $100=13k keys= 1 Super chest. Simple enough.
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Post by shivaswrath on Jun 11, 2018 9:49:32 GMT -5
Since Iâm currently in Diamond II... ⢠All ads to bronze is 50 keys per day x 30 days = 1500 keys per month. ⢠Diamond supply chest is 24 keys per three hours x 8 = 192 keys per day. Then 192 keys per day x 30 = 5760 keys. ⢠5760 keys + 1500 keys = 7260 keys. 12500 keys - 7260 keys = 5240 additional keys needed to earn 1 superchest. ⢠5240 keys / 30 days = ~175 additional keys per day. ⢠Assuming perfect play I get 5 keys per battle + an ad equivalent to another 10 keys, or 15 keys. ⢠Thatâs ~12 wins at the top of the leaderboard for my side. ⢠Assuming battles will average out at ~7 minutes, that means I must play for roughly an hour and a half every day. ⢠However, in practice perfect play cannot be assumed because that means I would be increasing in rank and getting better supply drops. ⢠Thus we will assume I will average one loss for each win, doubling my required playtime each day to roughly three hours. If youâre single and have a job with decent hours you might be able to swing that, but it will take up virtually all of your free time and seems to border on obsessive imo. Superchest thus does not seem readily viable to me until one is in Master League. In Masters III... ⢠50 x 30 = 1500 keys per month ⢠32 x 8 = 256, 256 x 30 = 7680 keys per month ⢠7680 + 1500 = 9180 total passive keys per month ⢠12500 - 9180 = 3320 extra keys needed ⢠3320 / 30 = ~111 extra keys needed per day ⢠111 / 15 = ~7.5 perfect battles per day ⢠~7.5 x 2 = ~15 battles per day under consistently ideal conditions ⢠15 x ~7 min average = 1 hour and 45 minutes per day ...which is still a lot of playing imo, but feasible if you really want a superchest each month.
kick 「bum-bum」 for adding that all up. Just as a heads up, I'm Masters 1, so get about 40 (320 a day). I had to watch a lot of ads and I play on average 5 games a day, a few games dedicated to ads on daily tasks...and I used a few ads for speeding up the daily 40 keys to get more per day (I think this is probably the best way to get more keys, you need like 12 games to get one chest).
I got my SC 1 day before it was up last month. Got 5000 keys for a third dragoon, so it actually worked out well. I'm going to try again this month...it's a f'in blind marathon.
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Post by grendelsbot on Jun 11, 2018 14:32:45 GMT -5
IMHO the Superchest should be a guaranteed 10,000 components of something (except for Storm, Gust or Arbalest), 10,000 gold or 10,000 keys or like a huge amount of tokens.
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Post by taken on Jun 13, 2018 3:23:13 GMT -5
what for do you need keys? what for do you need chests? just think about this weapons? new robots? so go and get them! 1. simply buy 1.a get 14k of gold and leave the game for 2 weeks - you'll have an offer with all dashes 2. collect with wp and gold from offers
keys are just to get your money. that's it.
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Post by moody on Jun 13, 2018 18:38:22 GMT -5
what for do you need keys? what for do you need chests? just think about this weapons? new robots? so go and get them! 1. simply buy 1.a get 14k of gold and leave the game for 2 weeks - you'll have an offer with all dashes 2. collect with wp and gold from offers keys are just to get your money. that's it. 14k gold is all well and good to say, but it takes a fair bit of saving - and then all these addicted people will go through extreme withdrawal for 2 weeks It is actually not that difficult to get equipment now - it's the silver and time for upgrading that stuffs me up. I spent some money in a royal in December or January to get part of a haechi, other than that I have only bought cheap gold offers ($1 for 700au) and put resources into wsp to buy offers plus royals. Since December I have gotten a bulg, a haechi, 3 scourge 2 vortex and an ember (also and inquisitor and a kumi - but that was basically given away - and a spectre and hover both from givaways) plus way too many storms and gusts, 2 tempests, most of another kumi, most of a second hover. I have gotten superchests the last three months - 3rd lancelot, half a ballista, half a spark and have gotten gold chests this month (more hover components, balista components and other useless stuff). So I don't really concentrate on keys as such - if you want something, aim for it and you will get it with a bit of dedication and grinding.
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Post by shivaswrath on Jun 14, 2018 19:06:22 GMT -5
Won 5000 Dragoon components in SC....
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Post by awwarrobots on Jun 15, 2018 2:05:03 GMT -5
Got my 1st SC yesterday. 5000 Spark. Planning on my 2nd. Opening bronze chests or expediting drops. Changing add id when not getting ads.
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Post by grendelsbot on Jun 15, 2018 14:18:46 GMT -5
wow I used to play like crazy to get to the SC that quick. I won't reach it till a few days left this time. Hopefully won't get a crap prize.
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Post by awwarrobots on Jun 15, 2018 15:23:33 GMT -5
wow I used to play like crazy to get to the SC that quick. I won't reach it till a few days left this time. Hopefully won't get a crap prize. I have a very full time job and a family... My tricks (known to all) are: Champions League for max drops. Bronze chests after ads. Reseting ad id. Fb givaways. And another - skirmish mode which allows you to go ape with quick games and without forbidden tanking. I strictly play for fun doing that, not for wins.
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