genx89
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Post by genx89 on May 10, 2018 18:18:26 GMT -5
After playing for a few days it is clear that this game has no match making at all.... Like none.... And if there is then dear god my god help the ones who have tossed money in a empty pit....
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Post by T34 on May 10, 2018 23:16:38 GMT -5
League and reason for the statement?
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Post by shosakato on May 11, 2018 1:08:37 GMT -5
There is absolutely a game mechanism for matchmaking. Problem is that it is based on your pilot rating and NOT the amount of Bots which play in a game OR the people with inflated ratings as they got higher through squadding. {<<---- Don't look correct but whatever}. There is always going to be a stronger team it is not always the ratings but how well you fight, that is how we climb the ladder here. It can also be that some people just suck as it is a competitive game which involves both skill and wit. I can not fault the game for human error.
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Post by Gdu4ever on May 11, 2018 1:49:56 GMT -5
The MM is build around frustration, not fairness. Understand this and you will see there is an (efficient) MM.
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Post by xelraon on May 11, 2018 3:31:56 GMT -5
Match making sux big time. Im Gold 1 and i get silvers and golds as allies, and diamonds and experts as enemies. I dont understand what logic matchmaking uses but clearly its not based on leagues. ... We won tho...  |
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Post by northempire on May 11, 2018 3:45:54 GMT -5
hmmmm... It had something to do with your piloting skills. If you're matched up with a higher league, then Pix must have analyze that the higher leagues are a match for your piloting skills. LoL
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Post by xelraon on May 11, 2018 8:08:16 GMT -5
Lol. But seriously no. Honestly, im not that good yet. Just started playing last march.
Anyway, i dont get the logic behind matchmaking. I mean there are metrics in game that can be used for proper match making like leagues, average damage, average destroyed, total hangar level, etc... But it seems that match making is more of a random thing ±2 league levels.
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Post by Koalabear on May 11, 2018 8:14:12 GMT -5
Actually, and I'm surprised to say this...every since 3.8, I've had more "fair" matches than not. Not sure if this is just my perception and my being in M3 now or not, but in FFA, there's usually a good balanced set of players (league wise). Of course, that doesn't take into account all the Mk2 builds. MM will forever be broken until Pix does something about the Mk2 madness - which we all know they won't because they're in the business of selling power.
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Post by xelraon on May 11, 2018 8:20:30 GMT -5
Anyway, just for reference. These are my stats ang hangar. Clearly its not meant for diamond upwards. ibb.co/hYoiWJ |
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Post by Koalabear on May 11, 2018 8:27:21 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with your hangar. Just focus on getting everything to at least level 6 for Gold level. Don't spend anymore resources on legacy stuff. If you're F2P, you've got a pretty good hangar already. Pick a component bot or weapon that tickles your fancy or suits your play style and grind for that.
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Post by xelraon on May 11, 2018 8:43:39 GMT -5
Thanks for the feed back. Im f2p. No way im gonna spend a months rent on a single purchase. Lol.
Ill farm for haechi and inquisitor next. Thinking of an orkan haechi and taran redeemer inq. Ill probably replace the griffin and raijin. Im in love with the stalker so hes gonna stay. Hahaha. Or maybe upgrade to pursuer if rngesus gives me good components.
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Post by xelraon on May 11, 2018 8:52:36 GMT -5
Actually, and I'm surprised to say this...every since 3.8, I've had more "fair" matches than not. Not sure if this is just my perception and my being in M3 now or not, but in FFA, there's usually a good balanced set of players (league wise). Of course, that doesn't take into account all the Mk2 builds. MM will forever be broken until Pix does something about the Mk2 madness - which we all know they won't because they're in the business of selling power. Recently tho ive noticed a significant decline on clubbers. I havent had an encounter with clubbers this patch yet. |
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Post by Koalabear on May 11, 2018 9:11:35 GMT -5
Actually, and I'm surprised to say this...every since 3.8, I've had more "fair" matches than not. Not sure if this is just my perception and my being in M3 now or not, but in FFA, there's usually a good balanced set of players (league wise). Of course, that doesn't take into account all the Mk2 builds. MM will forever be broken until Pix does something about the Mk2 madness - which we all know they won't because they're in the business of selling power. Recently tho ive noticed a significant decline on clubbers. I havent had an encounter with clubbers this patch yet. I'm still getting clubbed by Mk2! Other than that, I can't really consider Masters to be clubbers anymore! |
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Post by ezekielcrow on May 11, 2018 9:45:21 GMT -5
Actually, and I'm surprised to say this...every since 3.8, I've had more "fair" matches than not. Not sure if this is just my perception and my being in M3 now or not, but in FFA, there's usually a good balanced set of players (league wise). Of course, that doesn't take into account all the Mk2 builds. MM will forever be broken until Pix does something about the Mk2 madness - which we all know they won't because they're in the business of selling power. I've gotta admit, gold has smoothened out somewhat as well. At least much tougher hangars seem more the exception than the rule. As for MM, OP. Its designed to frustrate you into paying. The sooner people can accept it, the sooner they can move on. |
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Post by Danny Linguini on May 11, 2018 10:16:21 GMT -5
Match making sux big time. Im Gold 1 and i get silvers and golds as allies, and diamonds and experts as enemies. I dont understand what logic matchmaking uses but clearly its not based on leagues. ... We won tho... As Gdu4ever noted, MM's main purpose is not to create fair matchups, it's to frustrate players into spending money. Sounds like the stuff tin foil hats are made of, I know, but from everything I've experienced, seen, heard and read, I accept no other explanation. |
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Post by noobcake on May 11, 2018 10:41:59 GMT -5
There is absolutely a game mechanism for matchmaking. Problem is that it is based on your pilot rating and NOT the amount of Bots which play in a game OR the people with inflated ratings as they got higher through squadding. {<<---- Don't look correct but whatever}. There is always going to be a stronger team it is not always the ratings but how well you fight, that is how we climb the ladder here. It can also be that some people just suck as it is a competitive game which involves both skill and wit. I can not fault the game for human error. I have to agree here. The matchmaking system works but it can't account for squading, tanking, and folks leaving matches early. It would have been better to have a separate mechanic for squads and some equipment limits to limit tankers. Not much can be done about folks leaving matches early. Heck, every time SF or Yama come up in TDM I am out. |
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Post by genx89 on May 11, 2018 17:23:04 GMT -5
Not only the p00r MM..... But the TIME in order to win a game..... like its a close game and you start breaking way and killing bots and gaing HUGE ground and the other team wins due to the fact of TIME and little bots running away scared like little babies..... I just think that is p00r... You can load up on AOE and range at 1000m and just camp a win..... In other words not worth putting money into a sinking ship.....
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Post by genx89 on May 11, 2018 17:24:17 GMT -5
Match making sux big time. Im Gold 1 and i get silvers and golds as allies, and diamonds and experts as enemies. I dont understand what logic matchmaking uses but clearly its not based on leagues. ... We won tho... As Gdu4ever noted, MM's main purpose is not to create fair matchups, it's to frustrate players into spending money. Sounds like the stuff tin foil hats are made of, I know, but from everything I've experienced, seen, heard and read, I accept no other explanation. If you think I am putting money into a game like this guess again..... |
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Post by windcaster on May 11, 2018 17:30:13 GMT -5
After playing for a few days it is clear that this game has no match making at all.... Like none.... And if there is then dear god my god help the ones who have tossed money in a empty pit.... Stick with it, I started in Mid jan I remember being like lv 8 and being placed with lv 20's.. they had stuff I could not even buy (level locked) The MM sucks, everyone knows it.. but it will get a little more bearable as you go along. Within a month you'll be lv30 and the only thing holding you back is money.. either ingame or real life and time (for upgrades) |
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Post by genx89 on May 11, 2018 17:38:51 GMT -5
After playing for a few days it is clear that this game has no match making at all.... Like none.... And if there is then dear god my god help the ones who have tossed money in a empty pit.... Stick with it, I started in Mid jan I remember being like lv 8 and being placed with lv 20's.. they had stuff I could not even buy (level locked) The MM sucks, everyone knows it.. but it will get a little more bearable as you go along. Within a month you'll be lv30 and the only thing holding you back is money.. either ingame or real life and time (for upgrades) Sorry m8 but when you get roflstomped and are matched with kids putting up 80k total with 3 bots one can only take on so much! If you want to 1 vs 1 bot vs bot same mods/upgrades NP i'll kyte and tr00l for dayZ how does on go from 82% win rate to 52%.......... Enough said.......... |
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Post by windcaster on May 11, 2018 17:44:27 GMT -5
You should quit.
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Post by genx89 on May 11, 2018 17:55:48 GMT -5
I have..... game is in "G" folder..... The MM is utter trash...... The player base is meh at best from what I see even with the higher lvl bot/players..... Lack of team support in matches is bottom feeder p00r.... People have no clue how to "kyte" or even know how to give fire support when trying to advance.... Objectives are not played...This game is more towards kids ages 12 under from what I see.... Phew Phew B00M B00M I got a big bot......smh...... Anyways I bid you all a farewell.... |
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Post by Danny Linguini on May 11, 2018 21:46:48 GMT -5
I have..... game is in "G" folder..... The MM is utter trash...... The player base is meh at best from what I see even with the higher lvl bot/players..... Lack of team support in matches is bottom feeder p00r.... People have no clue how to "kyte" or even know how to give fire support when trying to advance.... Objectives are not played...This game is more towards kids ages 12 under from what I see.... Phew Phew B00M B00M I got a big bot......smh...... Anyways I bid you all a farewell.... You are absolutely 1000% right. The morons playing this game do more to 「fluffernutter」 the gaming experience than the morons who currently maintain it. Every game is fraught with tankers and/or clubbers, either doing nothing so they can tank down, or have already tanked down and are now clubbing their way back up, or just plain idiots who have no concept of the game's objectives and team play. This game could be 80000 times more fun to play, and dare I suggest, even tolerable in the face of everything its own developers are doing to it, if players would play the 「fluffernutter」ing game as a team. You're absolutely correct, and I'm having extreme difficulty trying to reconcile why I still bother turning the godforsaken thing on. |
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Post by Danny Linguini on May 12, 2018 8:09:25 GMT -5
So.... Today's tasks is win 11 battles. I'm already diwn to 38% win rate, so I figure 20 games or so and I should be done. No. 40 games in, I've got a whopping 5 wins. No matter how low my win rate goes, I'm still going up against level 30's with 9/10/11 hangars regularly and getting pummeled in every game (I'm still at level 22). This is your fair and balanced matchmaker. Yet despite the constant beatings and losses, I'm somehow still moving UP through Silver 3. Makes a whole lot of sense, doesn't it? Total bull「dookie」.
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Post by genx89 on May 21, 2018 11:58:16 GMT -5
I have..... game is in "G" folder..... The MM is utter trash...... The player base is meh at best from what I see even with the higher lvl bot/players..... Lack of team support in matches is bottom feeder p00r.... People have no clue how to "kyte" or even know how to give fire support when trying to advance.... Objectives are not played...This game is more towards kids ages 12 under from what I see.... Phew Phew B00M B00M I got a big bot......smh...... Anyways I bid you all a farewell.... You are absolutely 1000% right. The morons playing this game do more to ?fluffernutter? the gaming experience than the morons who currently maintain it. Every game is fraught with tankers and/or clubbers, either doing nothing so they can tank down, or have already tanked down and are now clubbing their way back up, or just plain idiots who have no concept of the game's objectives and team play. This game could be 80000 times more fun to play, and dare I suggest, even tolerable in the face of everything its own developers are doing to it, if players would play the ?fluffernutter?ing game as a team. You're absolutely correct, and I'm having extreme difficulty trying to reconcile why I still bother turning the godforsaken thing on. Of course I am right! You get the wannabe trolls that are few lvls ahead of you and have stronger upgrades and yet you still smack them around.... You get the idiots that don't cap the circle which is right behind them cause they have no clue how this game works..... Everyone thinks this is a "death match"... And have not seen any player which stands out.... Like I said i'll call any player out 1 vs 1 class vs class same upgrades...... Since my last post I have played just a few times and it gets ubber trash as I am grouped with kids with just 1-2 bots.... I can't carry this whole team........ |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2018 12:27:58 GMT -5
They better bring the new game update "as soon as possible". With multiple fix plus disco lights off.
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Post by genx89 on May 21, 2018 13:44:02 GMT -5
They better bring the new game update "as soon as possible". With multiple fix plus disco lights off. Can you explain how someone only has 1-2 bots at lvl 25+ and bringing them into game? Is this game this utter 「dookie」? I mean JFC most of you people should maybe quit playing games online.... Utter trash the lot of you are..... Still waiting for a pm on 1 vs 1 kids...... Whats wrong scared of getting face rekt by a n00b in this game? |
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Post by windcaster on May 21, 2018 13:47:13 GMT -5
They better bring the new game update "as soon as possible". With multiple fix plus disco lights off. You didn't hear? apparently they're in talks of getting a instrumental version of disco inferno licensed for the game, the disco lights are perm. |
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Post by Poopface on May 21, 2018 13:51:47 GMT -5
Maybe not intended to be initially, but given the direction of the thread I'm moving this to Rants.
Sidenote: I agree with most statements I've read in the thread.
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Post by Danny Linguini on May 21, 2018 13:52:19 GMT -5
They better bring the new game update "as soon as possible". With multiple fix plus disco lights off. Can you explain how someone only has 1-2 bots at lvl 25+ and bringing them into game? Is this game this utter ?dookie?? I mean JFC most of you people should maybe quit playing games online.... Utter trash the lot of you are..... Still waiting for a pm on 1 vs 1 kids...... Whats wrong scared of getting face rekt by a n00b in this game? I'm at lvl 25 and running two slots. They've been swapped around between Gepards, Stalker, Leo and Golem. Last few days I've been running two Geps -- 6/6 aphids and 8/8 mags. And yes, one of those days was during the 13 win and finish in top 3 challenge, which I finished. That hangar is hella fun. |
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