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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 11:23:48 GMT -5
Before 3.8 came out, I was pondering...
If Pix came out with FFA, wouldn't that increase tanking and seal-clubbing?
I mean, it is almost an invitation - One Champ League player fighting against 5 silver leauge player - the results aren't pretty.
Also, the MM doesn't help at all.
I'm being brutally murdered up there in Master/Champion.
I don't have a Haechi, no Shocktrains, and nothing MK2, and I am doing FFA with Champion players, as well as whales.
This has effectively fored me to stop playing on FFA, because I am simply not strong enough by myself.
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Post by Loganspawn on Apr 28, 2018 12:28:18 GMT -5
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Post by chedro on Apr 28, 2018 18:36:10 GMT -5
In general free-for-all will help you with your brawling skills. It will also force your awareness to be heightened. To me those are two great aspects of the game.
Now from my experience in champion league, if you do not have at least a mk2 haechi Taran/Orks you’re going to have a tough time. However, and please don’t take this the wrong way, maybe you have achieved a much higher league rating than what is suitable for your hanger? Or you have a hanger that is made simply for the other modes; usually consisting of three brawlers two mid to long range bots. For free for all, you need four brawlers and one kills stealer; A very mobile midranged bot. Specter shock/tulumbas/ion/ballista.
As far as your clubbers, and tankers, it doesn’t seem as if this game mode suffers any more than the others. This coupled with the short wait time for a match, the increase amount of damage and payout, and the possibility of getting 10 gold, makes this a haven for some of the best players in the game, with maxed out hangers. It’s the ultimate arcade game, and I truly believe that it is here to stay and very popular throughout all the leagues.
If you’re overpowered than keep playing it and you’ll drop until it evens out or until you upgrade your hanger. But if you want a better chance at gold and silver ffa offers that in spades.
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Post by windcaster on Apr 28, 2018 19:08:41 GMT -5
Speed definitely helps in FFA.. it's important to realize you don't have to fight every bot that's near by.
Sometimes running away is better than putting up a good fight.. remember, deadmen don't get paid.
even if you do a lot of damage to your opponet someone else is gonna come in and reap the reward, try to keep tabs on other bots, pay attentino to what weapons they're firing.
If they are trouble .. avoid.. let someone else soften them up.. this is where a fast bot help because they can't catch you they can't kill you.
Eventually they will get bored if they're trying to catch you or someone else will engage them while they're distracted by you..
Like someone else said.. beware while your stalking someone, someone else is stalking you.
Make staying alive #1 priority, You can't play if you're dead.. pick your battles.
Just like in poker you have fish and you have sharks, sharks don't eat sharks, sharks eat fish.
If you find your self as the only fish in the pond I suggest you upgrade your hanger, play another mode, or and while I don't normally condone intentionally tanking.. You could always tank your lumps in FFA for a while giving up easy kills and dropping your score till you find a more competitive footing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 19:09:58 GMT -5
Before 3.8 came out, I was pondering...
If Pix came out with FFA, wouldn't that increase tanking and seal-clubbing?
I mean, it is almost an invitation - One Champ League player fighting against 5 silver leauge player - the results aren't pretty.
Also, the MM doesn't help at all.
I'm being brutally murdered up there in Master/Champion.
I don't have a Haechi, no Shocktrains, and nothing MK2, and I am doing FFA with Champion players, as well as whales.
This has effectively fored me to stop playing on FFA, because I am simply not strong enough by myself.
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Post by ×Carliex on Apr 28, 2018 19:14:26 GMT -5
I get beat up too, but I've found FFA a bit addictive. Strategy makes a difference here, and at least you don't have to rely on other players for your success.
It might be different in Expert where I am, but I usually get top 3 with no premium bots or weapons. There was a mk2 12/12 tanker in one game killing everyone with a scurge haechi. I managed to kill him twice with a 10/10 taran/magnum Galahad. My favourite is orkan fujin ambush, though you have to pick your battles.
It would be so nice to face only robots at the same level as me. I'd probably spend money if Pix actually made an honourable game centred around skill. Alas, I shan't hold my breath.
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Post by maverick on Apr 28, 2018 19:16:48 GMT -5
I love it I don't have to rely on other people for back up (which rarely comes) or to take beacons. Just be GOD LIKE and go on a killing WRAMPAGE. I played it all day yesterday with only a couple of beacon games because pix made me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 19:39:35 GMT -5
it's the only mode I play since the update. On paper, and before playing it, I was sure it would be a nightmare.
It even led to me buying the premium as I'm raking in upwards of 800k per match.
I don't have to rely on idiotic teammates, 'hilarious' trolls , or beacon oblivious plonkers to win.
It's just my skill against everyone elses. I defo think you should check your hangar to adapt.
Only downside is that I'm just shy of Champs now and I reckon if I play any random mode I'll get my 「bum-bum」 handed to me.
Single greatest aspect of FFA is the almost total absence of ST and Hydra.
That in of itself is a beautiful thing.
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Post by maverick on Apr 28, 2018 20:48:50 GMT -5
Single greatest aspect of FFA is the almost total absence of ST and Hydra. That in of itself is a beautiful thing. Have you met George?  |
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Post by Doc Gonzo on Apr 28, 2018 20:54:50 GMT -5
I am loving FFA!
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Post by r2d2 on Apr 28, 2018 20:57:42 GMT -5
I started an android account solely for FFA a few days ago. Kinda feels like how it was back in the day. Everyone on the same level playing field.
There was an mk-ii champ who tanked all the way down to private leagues. Killed everyone with a single mk-ii haechi. Being a good samaritan, I reported the scumbag. Pix will investigate and said appropriate actions will be made, though I’m not sure what that action is. Ban I hope.
Main IOS account, I play normally. No FFA for the time being.
I think the new “Skirmish” mode coming soon are for agressive/hardcore F2P players who have gone higher in leagues unintentionally. You can earn Au/g without worries of rating points kicking you down or pushing you up...so I read...
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Post by cheap on Apr 29, 2018 0:07:47 GMT -5
fffa would be great.... untill clan helpers drop in together. i have played Ffa around 12times so far kill stealing is the only problem but its really not a big deal.
it is fun though..but like i typed till clans or maxed or mkII lvl bots an weapons appear mainly ST an Hydra users.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 3:46:03 GMT -5
Single greatest aspect of FFA is the almost total absence of ST and Hydra. That in of itself is a beautiful thing. Have you met George? What an ungodly sight. At least his Spectre is only lvl 6 ...? |
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on Apr 29, 2018 3:50:57 GMT -5
Loving FFA. Just got my highest score 1.4m - kill and a double kill in last 30seconds :-) and I had one of the weakest hangers. Best strategy is to lead with a stealth bot (if you have one)...you’re normally <300m to your nearest red so it can quickly get you in the board Great way to farm Au Requires a brawling hanger Kill steals are most annoying Rock on  |
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Post by maverick on Apr 29, 2018 5:13:28 GMT -5
What an ungodly sight. At least his Spectre is only lvl 6 ...? The other one is lvl 12, the one with the lvl 12 Orkans |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 5:46:08 GMT -5
What an ungodly sight. At least his Spectre is only lvl 6 ...? The other one is lvl 12, the one with the lvl 12 Orkans Damn it George! |
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Post by necrobeanies on Apr 30, 2018 11:12:27 GMT -5
Sorry but for some newb like me to go into a ffa map and not get compensated is just a joke and cry for help. Even top is what only 10 gold which you can make in normal games this is not rewarding enough. Considering newbs are matched against much better geared players so the fairness is not there either.
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Post by bugdoc on Apr 30, 2018 12:14:27 GMT -5
FFA is a blast, but the kill stealing thing gets annoying. I lose a ton of kills when my scourges are locked on and sucking the life out of a red, only to have a shocktrain or tulu hit them just as they are expiring. It's not uncommon to be first or second in damage but only third or fourth in total kills. I end up having to turn the tables by hunting cripples with my own shocktrains. It's almost unfair to come upon two reds pounding each other, only to kill both with a single shocktrain bolt.  |
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Post by windcaster on Apr 30, 2018 12:18:45 GMT -5
I haven't seen a single ST user in FFA.. G1/D3
I guess it's a good choice if you can get to a pair fighting.. but the recharge leaves you with your pants down.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 12:23:35 GMT -5
I set a new damage record in FFA, from 968.xxx to 1.263.759. I dont play FFA that often but great result. Ended 2nd with 7 destroyed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2018 12:24:45 GMT -5
FFA is a blast, but the kill stealing thing gets annoying. I lose a ton of kills when my scourges are locked on and sucking the life out of a red, only to have a shocktrain or tulu hit them just as they are expiring. It's not uncommon to be first or second in damage but only third or fourth in total kills. I end up having to turn the tables by hunting cripples with my own shocktrains. It's almost unfair to come upon two reds pounding each other, only to kill both with a single shocktrain bolt. Kill stealing is a tactic in the game mode. |
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Post by Koalabear on Apr 30, 2018 13:16:46 GMT -5
So far, the toughest part of FFA for me is the opening spawn. I spawn within 200m of a red, sometimes 2 if I'm the unlucky monkey in the middle. If I'm in the middle, my first bot usually dies without doing much damage let alone kills due to the 2 closest bots gunning for me at the same time. It's a no win situation if you're caught in the middle. After that, I usually come back with an Inky or Scourge Kumiho. If in the Inky, I try to ambush a lone red or go after reds that are currently engaged and hope for a double. If in the Kumiho, I'll try to kill steal at 600m if possible, and if not, play hide and burn at close quarters.
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Post by windcaster on Apr 30, 2018 13:53:15 GMT -5
ya the spawns are usually within about 200m.
the worse is when you're the middle spawn, cause both left and right will sandwich you like a oreo cookie.
So you either need a very fast bot with stealth, jump, dash, and run away.. or best to just start a fight as quick as possible imo before the guy on the other side of you comes to make that sandwich.
If you spawn on the left or right you have a little more wiggle room.. there's a chance the guy in the middle will either go for the other spawn, or do nothing at all and the furthest of the trio will engage the middle.. then you can either mop up the winner, join in, or run away.
They should rework the spawns to have as much room as possible imo.
I usually bring out my lead hose griffin and make a jump for the closest bot.. I don't really care if I get killed or not it's about 50/50 depending on whats on the other side of the cover.
You can bring your best bot out but if you do now you're risking your best bot on a 3 way melee.
I usually save my best bot for last, try to get some repairs in before bringing it out.
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Post by bugdoc on Apr 30, 2018 14:43:14 GMT -5
FFA is a blast, but the kill stealing thing gets annoying. I lose a ton of kills when my scourges are locked on and sucking the life out of a red, only to have a shocktrain or tulu hit them just as they are expiring. It's not uncommon to be first or second in damage but only third or fourth in total kills. I end up having to turn the tables by hunting cripples with my own shocktrains. It's almost unfair to come upon two reds pounding each other, only to kill both with a single shocktrain bolt. Kill stealing is a tactic in the game mode. Yup, hence my use of shocktrains. Although I can occasionally wear down a healthy opponent with them, shocktrains are best for mopping up after someone else has done the heavy lifting. |
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Post by bugdoc on Apr 30, 2018 14:48:08 GMT -5
I haven't seen a single ST user in FFA.. G1/D3 I guess it's a good choice if you can get to a pair fighting.. but the recharge leaves you with your pants down. They can definitely be problematic. They work best on open maps. Keep your distance, stay close to cover, and stalk the sick & wounded. If two opponents engage each other at knife-fighting range, try to get both as their health drops.  |
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on Apr 30, 2018 22:03:15 GMT -5
FFA is a blast, but the kill stealing thing gets annoying. I lose a ton of kills when my scourges are locked on and sucking the life out of a red, only to have a shocktrain or tulu hit them just as they are expiring. It's not uncommon to be first or second in damage but only third or fourth in total kills. I end up having to turn the tables by hunting cripples with my own shocktrains. It's almost unfair to come upon two reds pounding each other, only to kill both with a single shocktrain bolt. Kill stealing is a tactic in the game mode. Kill stealing is easier said than done. Its swings and round-abouts...it all evens out in the end. Now if you are a Ninja at KS then bravo - you’re a quality player |
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on Apr 30, 2018 22:04:41 GMT -5
So far, the toughest part of FFA for me is the opening spawn. I spawn within 200m of a red, sometimes 2 if I'm the unlucky monkey in the middle. If I'm in the middle, my first bot usually dies without doing much damage let alone kills due to the 2 closest bots gunning for me at the same time. It's a no win situation if you're caught in the middle. After that, I usually come back with an Inky or Scourge Kumiho. If in the Inky, I try to ambush a lone red or go after reds that are currently engaged and hope for a double. If in the Kumiho, I'll try to kill steal at 600m if possible, and if not, play hide and burn at close quarters. I lead with my one stealth bot (Inq) even though it’s only lvl 7 and I’m up against lvl 12 etc. Gives you a solid start as you can either reach cover or lure some poor sucker into death from above! |
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Post by Koalabear on May 1, 2018 6:55:00 GMT -5
So far, the toughest part of FFA for me is the opening spawn. I spawn within 200m of a red, sometimes 2 if I'm the unlucky monkey in the middle. If I'm in the middle, my first bot usually dies without doing much damage let alone kills due to the 2 closest bots gunning for me at the same time. It's a no win situation if you're caught in the middle. After that, I usually come back with an Inky or Scourge Kumiho. If in the Inky, I try to ambush a lone red or go after reds that are currently engaged and hope for a double. If in the Kumiho, I'll try to kill steal at 600m if possible, and if not, play hide and burn at close quarters. I lead with my one stealth bot (Inq) even though it’s only lvl 7 and I’m up against lvl 12 etc. Gives you a solid start as you can either reach cover or lure some poor sucker into death from above! I've tried that and it works on some maps. The stealth doesn't help too much when there's 2 Kumihos gunning for you out of the gate. |
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Post by HarvesterOsorrow on May 1, 2018 13:10:52 GMT -5
FFA is a blast, but the kill stealing thing gets annoying. I lose a ton of kills when my scourges are locked on and sucking the life out of a red, only to have a shocktrain or tulu hit them just as they are expiring. It's not uncommon to be first or second in damage but only third or fourth in total kills. I end up having to turn the tables by hunting cripples with my own shocktrains. It's almost unfair to come upon two reds pounding each other, only to kill both with a single shocktrain bolt. Kill stealing is a tactic in the game mode. Kill stealing is THE tactic in the game mode (fixed) totally annoying but is is what it is. Loading up burst instakill hangar and going back in for the gimps |
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