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Post by tonyfla on Apr 10, 2018 5:08:32 GMT -5
...except what a ?fluffy bunny?ing ?poo place?. I've been collecting screenshots of guys like this, and I have a TON of them. If I knew Adrian Chong, I'd send them to him for his upcoming trip. Everybody pisses and moans about OP bots/weapons - and yes, some of them are - but they are not the main problem. Guys like this are. Or, more accurately, the sheer number of players who do chicken?poo-poo? like this are what make the game so unbalanced. People suck. They are always going to choose the unfair advantage when they can. The only way to stop them is to remove that option. As long as there are no hard distinctions between leagues, people will have the opportunity to play unfairly, and they'll take that opportunity every time. Bot and weapon levels HAVE to be restricted by league to stop tanking. Otherwise, guys like this aren't going to do the right thing on their own.
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Post by hjn on Apr 10, 2018 5:18:32 GMT -5
I'm sure pixo knows all about them, golden clients they are called
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Post by ironstar on Apr 10, 2018 5:25:00 GMT -5
As per Pix definitions the above is not a tanker. Apparently you can't be a tanker in Diamond League.
I wonder if they ever play their own game. Most likely not. Diamond should be hardcapped at level 8 gear tops, maybe even lower
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Apr 10, 2018 6:04:48 GMT -5
Please don't take this as a criticism of the content of this thread. This is just my trouble shooters observation of the game. It is applied to finding faults and fixes for nearly any situation.
From what I have observed for the last 4 years it's not the players. It is entirely the game.
First let's just accept that everyone knows that there will be players that exploit every advantage that they can in the game. In any game for that manner. It's just a given. If the developers at PIXONIC are gamers themselves then they knew this as well when they created these "leagues". And yet they didn't build the game so that rank movement exploitation would be impossible or even mildly difficult. They actually made it the complete opposite. They made it extremely easy to exploit the game in this manner and in more than one way.
So it's easy to conclude that rank movement must have been a deliberate consideration by the developers. That it was something that they wanted players to be able to do. Now I don't know if they took all aspects of this fully into consideration. Because I usually have a lot more facts and other information provided by the company and the people most closely involved in it use and development. If they had done so then that means the game was deliberately built broken with a specific purpose that we have all been attributing to the developers for a while now. To create anxiety and frustration in their free-to-play player base in an attempt to try and pry money from them so that they believe they will be capable of competing with these exploitation players in some degree.
We also have to remember that the game was originally a strategic combat game. Exploitation is a valid strategy in combat. So actually in that regard it is still living up to its game description.
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Post by hashisfun on Apr 10, 2018 6:21:13 GMT -5
corner shooting; baiting/luring around an obstacle to kill.....are examples of strategy. intentionally playing in lower leagues where you can win easily is not strategy....satisfaction of their false egos that comes with being a bully is what it is (in my opinion).
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i had read a post/suggestion where somebody mentioned that MK2 should be auto champion league....along with other suggestions. i think that was a very good suggestion and maybe a mod can open a post where that yays/nays speak and then it can be forwarded to the devs.....who knows; something might come out of it.
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amongst the various issues....the main issue is off matchmaking. really need to do something about it....else the game goes down the drain slowly (in case its not already on its way down). if matchmaking and leagues are fixed....the game will be 'enjoyable' once again.
i am on the verge of reducing my league as well (due to the fked up matchmaking)....but the ethics (being unethical by lowering my league & bunching myself up with those cowards) is what's holding me back. else i would have gone back down a while ago instead of sticking in master's league.
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Post by tonyfla on Apr 10, 2018 6:33:35 GMT -5
Please don't take this as a criticism of the content of this thread. This is just my trouble shooters observation of the game. It is applied to finding faults and fixes for nearly any situation. From what I have observed for the last 4 years it's not the players. It is entirely the game. First let's just accept that everyone knows that there will be players that exploit every advantage that they can in the game. In any game for that manner. It's just a given. If the developers at PIXONIC are gamers themselves then they knew this as well when they created these "leagues". And yet they didn't build the game so that rank movement exploitation would be impossible or even mildly difficult difficult. They actually made it the complete opposite. They made it extremely easy to exploit the game in this manner and in more than one way. So it's easy to conclude that rank movement must have been a deliberate consideration by the developers. That it was something that they wanted players to be able to do. Now I don't know if they took all aspects of this fully into consideration. Because I usually have a lot more facts and other information provided by the company and the people most closely involved in it use and development. If they had done so then that means the game was deliberately built broken with a specific purpose that we have all been attributing to the developers for a while now. To create anxiety and frustration in their free-to-play player base in an attempt to try and pry money from them so that they believe they will be capable of competing with these exploitation players in some degree. We also have to remember that the game was originally a strategic combat game. Exploitation is a valid strategy in combat. So actually in that regard it is still living up to its game description. That's basically my point: If you leave openings for people to take advantage, they will - because human nature is ?poo-poo?ty. And, as we the players are seeing every day, War Robots players are taking advantage and will continue to do so until the openings are closed. That needs to be a priority more so than tinkering with weapon/bot rebalancing, IMO. P.S. I think one of three things is going on: 1) Pix employees don't play their own game, so they don't know how bad it is (and don't take player feedback seriously); or, 2) They know how bad it is and just can't fix it, because tech or perhaps because the player base is too small to strictly separate leagues; or 3) The conspiracy theories are right and everything is working just how Pix wants it because it drives revenue. Bottom line, my opinion is that if Pix is sincere about making a course correction, it starts with eliminating or at least severely restricting the ability to tank. That first, before anything else.
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Post by [CK]erazor on Apr 10, 2018 6:50:48 GMT -5
As per Pix definitions the above is not a tanker. Apparently you can't be a tanker in Diamond League. I wonder if they ever play their own game. Most likely not. Diamond should be hardcapped at level 8 gear tops, maybe even lower Well, there is a clan named Pixonic [PXNC] with clan ID 1. So maybe they do indeed play their own game? Clan ID 1 is odd. Stuff in hangar was, of course, all MK2 level 12 and included a Spectre with Shocktrains. Usually the clan IDs are integer numbers with five digits.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Apr 10, 2018 7:14:31 GMT -5
As per Pix definitions the above is not a tanker. Apparently you can't be a tanker in Diamond League. I wonder if they ever play their own game. Most likely not. Diamond should be hardcapped at level 8 gear tops, maybe even lower The "leagues" are a big part of the problem from what I can see. I have never liked nor have I paid attention to them as an actual player ranking because they are actually meaningless except where PIXONIC uses them to match players by those arbitrary rankings. I'll use myself as an example because of this if that's alright because I'm not trying to maintain any particular rank and I simply couldn't care less about doing so. Because it actually is meaningless as far as showing player skills and that's what is important to me. I have a lot of equipment in my hanger. And I certainly make use of it as I see fit. So that means there are times that I am running what some consider a "tanker's hanger". And if I run it for a certain amount of time then I am very likely, nay certainly, going to lose those ridiculous league points and drop through the rankings. And that's whether I would be trying to do so or not. For example if I'm running a beacon capper hanger my damage per match is going to drop. Therefore my final position in the after match reports is most probably going to be in the lesser three instead of the upper three. If I get caught in a greater series if losses then I'm positively losing more ranking points than I gain even if my win rate goes up. You can almost never win 7 matches to 1 loss and that's what a -22 point loss at the bottom of the list forces a player to do. Because you're only getting +3 points for a win if you are bottom listing. So anywhere in the bottom three for a period of time will definitely drive your ranking down. So there comes a point where I've run my beacon capper hanger until I've gotten bored with it. My ranking has dropped from Diamond 2 to Silver 1. But my win ratio is 60% or better. I know of this because I've done it several times. But now I'm wanting to play with my brawlers, the ones that took me to Diamond 2. But I'm in Silver 1. I'm supposed to limit myself now? My brawler equipment is at the exact same upgrade level as my beacon capper equipment. But now I'm suddenly the bad guy for simply playing through my hanger? I've already stated the rankings don't mean anything to me. Another example. Last time I used my main Android profile I was exclusively squading with Bui Dui for a week or two. His ranking was two-three levels above mine so we were seeing full squads of better equipment than my own most of the time. My ranking went from Diamond 2 to Silver 3 and I was busting my 「bum-bum」 just to get the #4-5 position in the after battle reports. We were even getting more wins than losses but it wasn't overcoming the point losses for myself. Bui Dui kept moving up while I kept sliding back. It doesn't sound right but that is exactly what happens to many squadmates too if they do so extensively. Without doubt there are a lot of real tankers out there who are deliberately exploiting the system to their advantage. But there are also a large number like myself too. Claiming someone doesn't belong in a tier for equipment reasons just doesn't cut it for me anymore. I've run rampant in the Amazon servers with 4/4 equipment right into Champion league. Still there running the same Leos and Griffins that got me there taking on Mk2 12 ST dashbots on a more or less regular basis. Recruits play with Champions in every match and it is awesome. PIXONIC should do the same to the Android and iOS servers. 1-2 Diamond-Champion players on each team and a mix of other players. Sounds like a nightmare to many but the good players quickly realize that they can easily rank up if they play smart and tactically. Screw the 「smart person」es. They're just cannon fodder until they quit. Who cares about the players that can't comprehend the meaning of getting the beacons anyways? I sure as hell don't.
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Post by frunobulax on Apr 10, 2018 7:21:10 GMT -5
I'm sure pixo knows all about them, golden clients they are called Whenever I reported a list of tankers via the in-game support option, all I got were standard texts specifying that the support doesn't give tips on how to play the game. In a few occasions I received another standard text specifying that the team is "sorry I encountered such players". The so-called official tanker reporting form seems to be a publicity stunt, as nothing ever happened to the guys I reported there. That pretty much covers all options we have, doesn't it?
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Post by tonyfla on Apr 10, 2018 7:25:14 GMT -5
I'm sure pixo knows all about them, golden clients they are called Whenever I reported a list of tankers via the in-game support option, all I got were standard texts specifying that the support doesn't give tips on how to play the game. In a few occasions I received another standard text specifying that the team is "sorry I encountered such players". The so-called official tanker reporting form seems to be a publicity stunt, as nothing ever happened to the guys I reported there. That pretty much covers all options we have, doesn't it? Probably being naive, but when I heard about Adrian's trip, it gave me a little smidgin of hope that positive changes could be ahead.
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Post by Poopface on Apr 10, 2018 9:26:23 GMT -5
...except what a ã??fluffy bunnyã?ing ã??poo placeã?. Everybody pisses and moans about OP bots/weapons - and yes, some of them are - but they are not the main problem. Guys like this are. Or, more accurately, the sheer number of players who do chickenã??poo-pooã? like this are what make the game so unbalanced. I agree. He's really dragging down his team by having that MK1 Ancile in there. In the interests of fairness, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he doesn't know the ramifications of his error. Poor dumb ?illegitimate child?.....
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Post by Loganspawn on Apr 10, 2018 9:39:54 GMT -5
Please don't take this as a criticism of the content of this thread. This is just my trouble shooters observation of the game. It is applied to finding faults and fixes for nearly any situation. From what I have observed for the last 4 years it's not the players. It is entirely the game. First let's just accept that everyone knows that there will be players that exploit every advantage that they can in the game. In any game for that manner. It's just a given. If the developers at PIXONIC are gamers themselves then they knew this as well when they created these "leagues". And yet they didn't build the game so that rank movement exploitation would be impossible or even mildly difficult difficult. They actually made it the complete opposite. They made it extremely easy to exploit the game in this manner and in more than one way. So it's easy to conclude that rank movement must have been a deliberate consideration by the developers. That it was something that they wanted players to be able to do. Now I don't know if they took all aspects of this fully into consideration. Because I usually have a lot more facts and other information provided by the company and the people most closely involved in it use and development. If they had done so then that means the game was deliberately built broken with a specific purpose that we have all been attributing to the developers for a while now. To create anxiety and frustration in their free-to-play player base in an attempt to try and pry money from them so that they believe they will be capable of competing with these exploitation players in some degree. We also have to remember that the game was originally a strategic combat game. Exploitation is a valid strategy in combat. So actually in that regard it is still living up to its game description. That's basically my point: If you leave openings for people to take advantage, they will - because human nature is ?poo-poo?ty. And, as we the players are seeing every day, War Robots players are taking advantage and will continue to do so until the openings are closed. That needs to be a priority more so than tinkering with weapon/bot rebalancing, IMO. P.S. I think one of three things is going on: 1) Pix employees don't play their own game, so they don't know how bad it is (and don't take player feedback seriously); or, 2) They know how bad it is and just can't fix it, because tech or perhaps because the player base is too small to strictly separate leagues; or 3) The conspiracy theories are right and everything is working just how Pix wants it because it drives revenue. Bottom line, my opinion is that if Pix is sincere about making a course correction, it starts with eliminating or at least severely restricting the ability to tank. That first, before anything else. I will take number 3 Alex..........
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Post by Loganspawn on Apr 10, 2018 9:42:14 GMT -5
As per Pix definitions the above is not a tanker. Apparently you can't be a tanker in Diamond League. I wonder if they ever play their own game. Most likely not. Diamond should be hardcapped at level 8 gear tops, maybe even lower Well, there is a clan named Pixonic [PXNC] with clan ID 1. So maybe they do indeed play their own game? Clan ID 1 is odd. Stuff in hangar was, of course, all MK2 level 12 and included a Spectre with Shocktrains. Usually the clan IDs are integer numbers with five digits. no they do not "Play" the game. To play the game they would need to start from zero and earn everything the way we do. They play around with the game IMO from all the past you tube videos when they played players.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Apr 10, 2018 15:09:51 GMT -5
I'm sure pixo knows all about them, golden clients they are called Whenever I reported a list of tankers via the in-game support option, all I got were standard texts specifying that the support doesn't give tips on how to play the game. In a few occasions I received another standard text specifying that the team is "sorry I encountered such players". The so-called official tanker reporting form seems to be a publicity stunt, as nothing ever happened to the guys I reported there. That pretty much covers all options we have, doesn't it? PIXONIC has never cared that there are tankers. That is certainly a given. The report form does work however. It is just that PIXONIC isn't using it for what we wanted to believe they are. If you see someone self-destructing at spawn to then drop their last bot and go kamikazi then PIX will actually do something about it. If you see someone only drop one bot in the match and you see that player get killed early on and they never re-spawn they will do something. But only if it can be proven. I used to report these kinds of players regularly. I would record exact times and dates along with screenshots and player IDs. I would track these players in the game and watch as their activity dropped dramatically as they hit the Low-Priority Queue. But...never once has any completely obvious super-tanker that I have reported ever dropped off in activity. Not even once. I'm fairly certain that PIXONIC is using the tanker reports as a sort of monitor to gauge player reactions to the new league dynamic. They have fully expected that there were to be players rampaging through Bronze-Gold with 12/12 hangers since they started the "leagues". Now it is just even more pronounced. I'm of the opinion that they actually expected all of the older players to move on so that newer players coming in were not made aware of the changes though.
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Post by northempire on Apr 10, 2018 15:14:05 GMT -5
That hangar is so excruciating
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 15:19:29 GMT -5
3) The conspiracy theories are right and everything is working just how Pix wants it because it drives revenue. It's not conspiracy theory, that's pretty much known truth to anybody who has spent a day working in a corporate world. Gather people around who work 8-5 and ask them simple question: what do you prefer, have balanced gameplay and make x or push these aggressive sales tactics and make 50% more? Which one do you think people will chose? If you were working there which one would you chose? And this is, after all, video game. What about similar thing in pharmaceutical industry? They have life-saving drug and all of sudden they jack up the price by few hundred percent.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Apr 10, 2018 15:24:35 GMT -5
Well, there is a clan named Pixonic [PXNC] with clan ID 1. So maybe they do indeed play their own game? Clan ID 1 is odd. Stuff in hangar was, of course, all MK2 level 12 and included a Spectre with Shocktrains. Usually the clan IDs are integer numbers with five digits. no they do not "Play" the game. To play the game they would need to start from zero and earn everything the way we do. They play around with the game IMO from all the past you tube videos when they played players. Exactly. Just like the players that start playing any game with all the best game cheats. They never fully grasp what it is like to work your way up towards the top. They have always been there.
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Post by Deadeye on Apr 10, 2018 16:15:44 GMT -5
ummm...supercalifragilisticexpialidocious...?
to be fair, I only read the thread title.
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Post by Gdu4ever on Apr 10, 2018 19:56:16 GMT -5
Please don't take this as a criticism of the content of this thread. This is just my trouble shooters observation of the game. It is applied to finding faults and fixes for nearly any situation. From what I have observed for the last 4 years it's not the players. It is entirely the game. First let's just accept that everyone knows that there will be players that exploit every advantage that they can in the game. In any game for that manner. It's just a given. If the developers at PIXONIC are gamers themselves then they knew this as well when they created these "leagues". And yet they didn't build the game so that rank movement exploitation would be impossible or even mildly difficult difficult. They actually made it the complete opposite. They made it extremely easy to exploit the game in this manner and in more than one way. So it's easy to conclude that rank movement must have been a deliberate consideration by the developers. That it was something that they wanted players to be able to do. Now I don't know if they took all aspects of this fully into consideration. Because I usually have a lot more facts and other information provided by the company and the people most closely involved in it use and development. If they had done so then that means the game was deliberately built broken with a specific purpose that we have all been attributing to the developers for a while now. To create anxiety and frustration in their free-to-play player base in an attempt to try and pry money from them so that they believe they will be capable of competing with these exploitation players in some degree. We also have to remember that the game was originally a strategic combat game. Exploitation is a valid strategy in combat. So actually in that regard it is still living up to its game description. That's basically my point: If you leave openings for people to take advantage, they will - because human nature is ã??poo-pooã?ty. And, as we the players are seeing every day, War Robots players are taking advantage and will continue to do so until the openings are closed. That needs to be a priority more so than tinkering with weapon/bot rebalancing, IMO. P.S. I think one of three things is going on: 1) Pix employees don't play their own game, so they don't know how bad it is (and don't take player feedback seriously); or, 2) They know how bad it is and just can't fix it, because tech or perhaps because the player base is too small to strictly separate leagues; or 3) The conspiracy theories are right and everything is working just how Pix wants it because it drives revenue. Bottom line, my opinion is that if Pix is sincere about making a course correction, it starts with eliminating or at least severely restricting the ability to tank. That first, before anything else. Agreed. But there are so much ?poo-poo?s with the game now it's hard to prioritize the fixes. Btw I'm really reserved with any hope that Pix will fix the game. The "working" fixes with the game, afaik, is (1) Ancile not blocking friendly fires, and (2) reducing Ag expense for damaged bots. I can't name a third, and both fixes are very old already.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 19:58:28 GMT -5
His ancile is not mk2, so this doesn't make him a whale or a tanker...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2018 23:29:09 GMT -5
Please don't take this as a criticism of the content of this thread. This is just my trouble shooters observation of the game. It is applied to finding faults and fixes for nearly any situation. From what I have observed for the last 4 years it's not the players. It is entirely the game. First let's just accept that everyone knows that there will be players that exploit every advantage that they can in the game. In any game for that manner. It's just a given. If the developers at PIXONIC are gamers themselves then they knew this as well when they created these "leagues". And yet they didn't build the game so that rank movement exploitation would be impossible or even mildly difficult. They actually made it the complete opposite. They made it extremely easy to exploit the game in this manner and in more than one way. So it's easy to conclude that rank movement must have been a deliberate consideration by the developers. That it was something that they wanted players to be able to do. Now I don't know if they took all aspects of this fully into consideration. Because I usually have a lot more facts and other information provided by the company and the people most closely involved in it use and development. If they had done so then that means the game was deliberately built broken with a specific purpose that we have all been attributing to the developers for a while now. To create anxiety and frustration in their free-to-play player base in an attempt to try and pry money from them so that they believe they will be capable of competing with these exploitation players in some degree. We also have to remember that the game was originally a strategic combat game. Exploitation is a valid strategy in combat. So actually in that regard it is still living up to its game description. You may say that it is the game... But WHO is actually the one who is tanking? The game isn't - it's the PEOPLE!
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Post by braxus on Apr 10, 2018 23:58:55 GMT -5
Hey all I am a 3 year veteran. I took a couple months off and now I can't seem to compete in expert 1. I think this all is not one problem but a cascading problem. 1st mm: Pix never corrected this just made it more complicated with the addition of leagues. 2nd grouping modes: When they did this it seriously screwed the players that didn't spend 100's of dollars to buy new bots and weapons to be able to set up a hanger that is able to be played on 3 different modes at once. 3rd mkII: this compounded all the above. 4th My personal gripe: TDM mode is simply a mode for long range and never should be grouped.
With all this said I am now trapped in expert 1 can't gain enough silver to upgrade in a timely manner. So yes I have been tempted to drank 1 or 2 levels so I have a chance. Bottom line Pixonic likes it the way it is. Flooding the game with new options and few ways to obtain unless again you spend a small fortune. But keep this in mind they are a business and want money. There is enough gamers here that support this. So until the money dries up every single thing they do is to get more money. Fair play doesn't bring more money.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Apr 11, 2018 1:13:35 GMT -5
You may say that it is the game... But WHO is actually the one who is tanking? The game isn't - it's the PEOPLE! I have never had any regard for the "leagues" nor the ranking associated with it for it has no bearing whatsoever on player skills. It's been consistently regarded as a measure of equipment by the very statements made by so many complaining about tankers running their Mk2 upgrades in Bronze-Masters. So I have always run my hanger according to what I want to play. I think most players do this but maybe not to the degree that I do. I pretty much keep my most used equipment on an even keel. I'm a little OCD and disorder gives me the heebee-jeebees. I took an Android profile to Diamond 2. Did it with 6-10 equipment throughout my hanger. But if I use my beacon capper hanger with the same upgrade levels for an extended period I tend to lose more ranking points than I gain due to less damage potential and placing 4-6 on the after action reports. Any point losses always outweigh the gains in these end of match placements. And at a 50-60% win rate you still lose ranking points even if you are gaining Au. So I drop from Diamond to Silver, maybe even Bronze if I run this beacon capper set up for any length of time. I'm gaining a lot of Au. I've even got a pretty fair win rate. But my losses are canceling out my wins by up to 7 to 1. That's hard to overcome. That means I must average 4-7 wins for every loss to just maintain my points standings and retain my "league" ranking. Ain't going to happen. Especially not if I keep playing my full beacon capper hanger. So I'm now tanking my ranking. Not deliberately. Remember, I'm still winning more matches than I lose. But because game design I'm still losing ranking just because I choose to run a certain hanger set up. Guess what happens when I switch back to my brawler hanger set up once I get bored chasing beacons. Same upgrade averages but my damage potential has suddenly gone up dramatically. I'm not only a tanker now I'm a clubber as well. Yes, players exploit the game. That's what humans do. Survival of the fittest in all things, even gaming. It's how we've managed to be top animal on this ball of mud. PIXONIC has all of the responsibility to control every aspect of this game. Especially tanking because they have allowed it to continue for well over a year now without doing a damn thing about it. Putting it off on the players is a weak cop out by PIXONIC. Worse, some actually believe it.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Apr 11, 2018 8:27:18 GMT -5
I like a lot of what you post, Thor, but you are regurgitating the old farming excuses. You could easily run your capper hangar until you drop to G1, for example and then brawl back up to D2. Your opponents would remain competitive. After all, on the highway, I doubt you race up to 80mph and then drift down to 15mph. Take responsibility and play responsibly. Those of us who hate tanking will respect you the more for it.
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on Apr 11, 2018 8:54:33 GMT -5
Just wanted to ask. Has anyone tried starting a GoFundMe page in attempt to play War Robots properly?
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Apr 11, 2018 11:55:14 GMT -5
I like a lot of what you post, Thor, but you are regurgitating the old farming excuses. You could easily run your capper hangar until you drop to G1, for example and then brawl back up to D2. Your opponents would remain competitive. After all, on the highway, I doubt you race up to 80mph and then drift down to 15mph. Take responsibility and play responsibly. Those of us who hate tanking will respect you the more for it. I will not be limited in what I play with nor for how long. I have an inventory and I do not intend to let it rust while I play just a select few high damage creating bots. I'm playing the game for my enjoyment and nobody else's. When I squad it is a different game. I am trying to help my team win and so I will run my heavier damage creating equipment most off the time. I have been designated the team's beacon capper as well but that's a choice that I allow my squad mates to make when we have a heavy brawler team and we need a faster member to get the job done. But soloing? Naw, I'm always going to do as I please and screw what others think. As I previously stated, those "leagues" do not mean anything to me. They mean nothing concerning player skills and they are a terrible way to rank players in the game. And I'm certainly not pacifying others' sensibilities with my game play just to support such a crappy system. I do not play for regard nor respect because the current ranking system does not support this in any manner anyway. All it is doing is grading my equipment and nothing else. It's a sick joke. I only appreciate the teammate that simply does their best. When I check the after action reports I always appreciate the low end damage players that have capped at least 2 beacons, win or lose. Especially when 2-4 of my teammates have taken none and have only done damage. I lose far more matches to missed beacons than mech outs.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Apr 12, 2018 18:27:54 GMT -5
I like a lot of what you post, Thor, but you are regurgitating the old farming excuses. You could easily run your capper hangar until you drop to G1, for example and then brawl back up to D2. Your opponents would remain competitive. After all, on the highway, I doubt you race up to 80mph and then drift down to 15mph. Take responsibility and play responsibly. Those of us who hate tanking will respect you the more for it. I will not be limited in what I play with nor for how long. I have an inventory and I do not intend to let it rust while I play just a select few high damage creating bots. I'm playing the game for my enjoyment and nobody else's. When I squad it is a different game. I am trying to help my team win and so I will run my heavier damage creating equipment most off the time. I have been designated the team's beacon capper as well but that's a choice that I allow my squad mates to make when we have a heavy brawler team and we need a faster member to get the job done. But soloing? Naw, I'm always going to do as I please and screw what others think. As I previously stated, those "leagues" do not mean anything to me. They mean nothing concerning player skills and they are a terrible way to rank players in the game. And I'm certainly not pacifying others' sensibilities with my game play just to support such a crappy system. I do not play for regard nor respect because the current ranking system does not support this in any manner anyway. All it is doing is grading my equipment and nothing else. It's a sick joke. I only appreciate the teammate that simply does their best. When I check the after action reports I always appreciate the low end damage players that have capped at least 2 beacons, win or lose. Especially when 2-4 of my teammates have taken none and have only done damage. I lose far more matches to missed beacons than mech outs. I too don't let any of the over 70 bots in my garage rust away in there, but I have never in all the months since Jan 2017 drifted farther than 1 league level from where I was initially placed and I still get to play what I want whenever I want. I also ceased upgrading my heaviest gear then, as I realized that the leagues were a joke. Capping your way down to Bronze and then brawling your way back up to Diamond 2 when it is in your power not to simply means that you are a tanker. You should embrace it then, as you seem to. You certainly are not helping to make the game better for other pilots who mainly wish for good competitive matches and you are most certainly not sticking it to Pixonic in any way, unless you feel that driving new players from the game will help Pix realize the error of their ways. Well, as you say, we are all free to do as we wish.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Apr 12, 2018 21:02:29 GMT -5
I too don't let any of the over 70 bots in my garage rust away in there, but I have never in all the months since Jan 2017 drifted farther than 1 league level from where I was initially placed and I still get to play what I want whenever I want. I also ceased upgrading my heaviest gear then, as I realized that the leagues were a joke. Capping your way down to Bronze and then brawling your way back up to Diamond 2 when it is in your power not to simply means that you are a tanker. You should embrace it then, as you seem to. You certainly are not helping to make the game better for other pilots who mainly wish for good competitive matches and you are most certainly not sticking it to Pixonic in any way, unless you feel that driving new players from the game will help Pix realize the error of their ways. Well, as you say, we are all free to do as we wish. Yup, I. AM. A. TANKER. Or at least I was when I was playing with my main Android profile. Not by deliberation. I was a tanker because I do not and will not play the game in regard to those stupid rankings nor will I pay homage to those ridiculous "leagues". I never have and I never will in their current condition. I am not at all interested in playing a maintaining game for a non-functional, very un-important "league" ranking. Whether that affects other players or not is of no concern to me and I sure as hell am not going to shoulder the responsibility. All of that "league" ?poo-poo? is just part of the matchmaking algorithm that everyone complains about anyway. A MM that nearly everyone unanimously agrees is just a huge pile of ?poo-poo?. ?fluffy bunny? it. The game is built to allow players to play with whatever they like at any time they like for as long as they like. For anyone to dare to judge others for doing so is completely ?fluffy bunny?tarded in the extreme. Because they are also daring to place an arbitrary set of rules on the game and its players when that game does not have any and NEVER has had any such a thing. They are merely fantasizing in an imaginary world. ?fluffy bunny? that. PIXONIC made the game what it is. And no one but PIXONIC is responsible for any of the actions taken by their players in the game. NO. ONE. ELSE.
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on Apr 17, 2018 9:59:29 GMT -5
You may say that it is the game... But WHO is actually the one who is tanking? The game isn't - it's the PEOPLE! I have never had any regard for the "leagues" nor the ranking associated with it for it has no bearing whatsoever on player skills. It's been consistently regarded as a measure of equipment by the very statements made by so many complaining about tankers running their Mk2 upgrades in Bronze-Masters. So I have always run my hanger according to what I want to play. I think most players do this but maybe not to the degree that I do. I pretty much keep my most used equipment on an even keel. I'm a little OCD and disorder gives me the heebee-jeebees. I took an Android profile to Diamond 2. Did it with 6-10 equipment throughout my hanger. But if I use my beacon capper hanger with the same upgrade levels for an extended period I tend to lose more ranking points than I gain due to less damage potential and placing 4-6 on the after action reports. Any point losses always outweigh the gains in these end of match placements. And at a 50-60% win rate you still lose ranking points even if you are gaining Au. So I drop from Diamond to Silver, maybe even Bronze if I run this beacon capper set up for any length of time. I'm gaining a lot of Au. I've even got a pretty fair win rate. But my losses are canceling out my wins by up to 7 to 1. That's hard to overcome. That means I must average 4-7 wins for every loss to just maintain my points standings and retain my "league" ranking. Ain't going to happen. Especially not if I keep playing my full beacon capper hanger. So I'm now tanking my ranking. Not deliberately. Remember, I'm still winning more matches than I lose. But because game design I'm still losing ranking just because I choose to run a certain hanger set up. Guess what happens when I switch back to my brawler hanger set up once I get bored chasing beacons. Same upgrade averages but my damage potential has suddenly gone up dramatically. I'm not only a tanker now I'm a clubber as well. Yes, players exploit the game. That's what humans do. Survival of the fittest in all things, even gaming. It's how we've managed to be top animal on this ball of mud. PIXONIC has all of the responsibility to control every aspect of this game. Especially tanking because they have allowed it to continue for well over a year now without doing a damn thing about it. Putting it off on the players is a weak cop out by PIXONIC. Worse, some actually believe it. what you describe isn’t tanking... it’s how pixo wants you to play. Beacons for a while then brawlers... just saying. You’re not creating losses for your team, only for yourself.
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