olokos
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Post by olokos on Mar 31, 2018 16:20:53 GMT -5
Hey, I've been playing for quite a while, but i feel like something is off in my current build. Any tips to improve it? No weapons for gold though.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Mar 31, 2018 16:32:04 GMT -5
I wouldnt mix aphids and spirals. Pick one or the other. Id recommend Pinatas in the light mounts on that bot. Also, as discussed here at length, I would look to ditch the Rajin down the road as its not effective in the upper levels. A Carnage is a better bot for tridents.
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Post by codebrown on Mar 31, 2018 16:48:25 GMT -5
That 1st Leo is a mess. Like GG said, go with all Aphids, or swap them all out with Magnums or Punishers. I'm sure you see a big performance difference between the second Leo and the first. Perhaps you're trying for a mid-ranger? Have you thought about putting 3x Spirals and a Trident on it? It wouldn't hit very hard, Spirals are underpowered, but it'd be a fun camper bot. The best thing for that would be Aphids, if you can come off the gold for them... But if you can't, then stick to a knife-fighter, like the 2nd Leo.
Raijin: I'm not a Raijin hater like a lot of people, but I don't like it with Tridents personally. I use a Thunder Raijin for "on beacon" drops on Beacon Rush to great effect, and I also sometimes use Zeus on it for a great mid-range bot that is great at pinning down the other team. But Tridents aren't very good, imho. The reload time is too slow.
Plasma Griffins are awesome.
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Mar 31, 2018 18:50:33 GMT -5
i would put pinatas and thunder on first leo but you shouldnt buy a carnage imo because carnage is obsolote as well
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2018 18:51:46 GMT -5
Fix the first Leo (as stated above) and get rid of the raijin. Replace It with either rhino, carnage, or fujin.
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Post by BigBear on Mar 31, 2018 18:54:41 GMT -5
i would put pinatas and thunder on first leo but you shouldnt buy a carnage imo because carnage is obsolote as well Thunder Carnage may be obsolete in the current meta but a Zeus Carnage can still score high damage when played correctly.
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Mar 31, 2018 18:56:40 GMT -5
i would put pinatas and thunder on first leo but you shouldnt buy a carnage imo because carnage is obsolote as well Thunder Carnage may be obsolete in the current meta but a Zeus Carnage can still score high damage when played correctly. ahem shocklames and dragoons are everywhere as well as scourges
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Post by codebrown on Mar 31, 2018 20:08:01 GMT -5
Thunder Carnage may be obsolete in the current meta but a Zeus Carnage can still score high damage when played correctly. ahem shocklames and dragoons are everywhere as well as scourges ahem, not in gold 3, where the OP is if you check his SS. edit: Unless their's tankers, of course...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2018 22:52:43 GMT -5
Sell the Raijin.
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Post by RightOn on Apr 1, 2018 21:27:41 GMT -5
Whoa, with the trident update around the corner and the 30% update for bastion, you ccould hold on to that, but you need 5th slot and your hangar is a slug bub.
The spirals on Leo 1 would need to go if it remained in that hangar. Replace with gusts or punishers.
Leo 2 is fine but aphid chucker is better and use just one Leo
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Post by olokos on Apr 2, 2018 13:58:04 GMT -5
I'll switch natasha for Rhino once I stack up on 4k more of workshop credits, better now? I'm also trying to get 5k gold, I already have 1.8k, eventually I will buy 5th slot
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Post by olokos on Apr 4, 2018 17:42:35 GMT -5
Could somebody say if that's acceptable setup?
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Post by olokos on May 24, 2018 7:55:05 GMT -5
That's how my hangar looks like now. I also have Gareth, few Leo's and Natasha's. 1 trebuchet, 1 magnum and loads of silver weapons How should I progress here? I've been using Gareth with hydra and gekko, but I've found out that Jesse seems to be able to cause more damage and survive much longer. Any tips? What should I change, or keep it as it is?
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Post by Lainz on May 24, 2018 9:23:25 GMT -5
Here's my advice
roll silver chests... a lancelot would fit well in your hangar, but right now I'm not sure it's worth 5k gold. Even an orkan would be nice, 'cause your rhino needs them.
What I'm saying is basically this. Orkans on Rhino Tarans from Rhino to a new Lancelot + Ancile, this will replace your Leo.
Start saving gold for a couple of orkans anyway... if you win one, even better.
Gareth won't work well with hydra and gekko, better Taran/Magnum Storm/Gust Orkan/Pinata (I prefer the two above, but if you only have one Orkan, you can try this setup while you save for the second).
Trident is bad atm, I'd take a honest RDB griffin as midranger (tulumbas/pin). If you really like Raijin I think it can work well with zeus and tempest, but you need two of them. Not an endgame bot anyway.
If you have decent components amounts here's some bot you could look for: Bulgasari, Haechi, Kumiho, Spectre, Inquisitor... those are good for sure, plus there's an entire new array of bots that aren't so common so I can't tell. With those above you can't go wrong.
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Post by olokos on May 25, 2018 20:20:29 GMT -5
Which chests do you mean? I keep rolling the 100 keys chests. I switched to Thunders on raijin temporairly, what silver bot should I switch it to aswell another griffin? I got tons of silver. Thanks a lot for your detailed answer. I'm close to get an Inquistor, but it will take a while as it's pretty random, then haechi, I'll be coming back to the thread as it develops, thanks Lainz
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Post by brozart on May 25, 2018 20:31:27 GMT -5
Which chests do you mean? I keep rolling the 100 keys chests. I switched to Thunders on raijin temporairly, what silver bot should I switch it to aswell another griffin? I got tons of silver. Thanks a lot for your detailed answer. I'm close to get an Inquistor, but it will take a while as it's pretty random, then haechi, I'll be coming back to the thread as it develops, thanks LainzI would focus on 1 support bot 3 brawler and 1 beacon capper Tulu/Pin Griffin is a very good support bot even on higher leagues What your hangar realy needs are Orkan brawler like Orkan/piniata Griffin or Rhino Maybe build a PDB griff with tarans from Rhino and Magnums from Leo I would not mix weapons... choose your enemys well to byepass there ancil/shilds... a plasma /rocket mix rhino will have problems with any kind of shild... i would recommend something like this: Jesse 4x Aphid or piniatas RDB (tulu/pin) griff DB(Orkan/piniata) griff PDB (Taran/magnum) griff PDB or DB rhino
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on May 25, 2018 21:22:58 GMT -5
Hey, I've been playing for quite a while, but i feel like something is off in my current build. Any tips to improve it? No weapons for gold though. you can switch between carnage and raijin. Just different routes. The griffin eventually needs to turn into a spectre for top tier play. The raijin needs dragoon’s, and you really need to skip the magnums, and work in scourge, orkans, etc. those are top tier weapons. The other route is just to play what you like and for fun
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Post by olokos on May 26, 2018 9:41:59 GMT -5
brozart I got this right now as per previous instructions. Unfortunately no more gold atm, should I stick with this or replace gareth and leo with griffin? If I use 3 griffs there's no use for ancile and I have only 1 orkan atm. @tooschoolforcool that's the first build I had when I created this thread. Please take a look at this new setup.
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Post by RightOn on May 26, 2018 10:29:15 GMT -5
Right now you have too much energy wep and I personally would want something with MR support (RDB, Zeus, Molot) but that's sometimes a matter of taste. Definitely get some explosives or ballistics for physical shields. At your level you will run into a lot of Brit bots, Rhinos and Raijin.
Maybe try
Aphid Ancile Leo PDB Rhino DB Griff DB Gareth RDB or leadhose Griff
Don't be shy of setting aside stuff, you are not deeply invested yet. Magnums especially are pretty weak these days when pinatas have auto reload. 3 pinatas can wreck 80k damage and walk away, 3 mags have to stand there and land shots for close to 10 seconds.
I ran ancile mag leo back in the day when ancile was getting buffed and tarancilot trident fury were the strongest bots on the field. Today though it's a bag of silver, meta is very bursty.
Oh, and dump gary
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Post by olokos on May 26, 2018 10:57:46 GMT -5
RightOnI corrected my build with what I could and that's how it looks right now. I don't know what all PDB/RDB or leadhose mean, so I was using brozart 's post as my guide, but some of those he didnt list, could you explain the meaning of those? Also gary, no clue what that is.
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Post by brozart on May 26, 2018 11:35:28 GMT -5
Aphid ancil leo is soild bot a bit slow but hard to kill and a good bait to force reds to move Gary = Gareth DB = Deathbutton (300m rockets Orkan piniata) PDB = Plasma-Deathbutton(350m Taran/mags) RDB = Russian Deathbutton(500m Tulu/pin) leadhose = pure punisher build (0-500m ... takes to long befor it starts dealing dmg... some pilots may be good with it... i never lvled a punisher higher then 4) I like the gary fast and nimbel..but like the most small bots gareth dies to easy nower days... 1 fast bot is nice in BR shuld work well on lower leagues till you get 1 more Orkan then replace the gary with a classic DB griffin to have some firepower( lvl this orkans to 12 !) At all i think hangar looks very well balanced now... maybe some more orkans(...you can never have to much Orkans!)... but you will see after trying the DB griff
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Post by olokos on May 26, 2018 13:18:42 GMT -5
Thank you so much brozart, I'll hope to remember it all, if not then I will comeback to your post. I gotta say that gary with orkan and magnum is doing the job done pretty good. This build is really great. Thanks everyone. I know about orkans, they're so good, but quite expensive at the same time, I'll just keep saving for orkans now. I have a few leftover magnums lvl 7, gotta upgrade new build I wasn't expecting RDB Griff to be so good actually.
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Post by rags on May 26, 2018 15:49:38 GMT -5
Thank you so much brozart, I'll hope to remember it all, if not then I will comeback to your post. I gotta say that gary with orkan and magnum is doing the job done pretty good. This build is really great. Thanks everyone. I know about orkans, they're so good, but quite expensive at the same time, I'll just keep saving for orkans now. I have a few leftover magnums lvl 7, gotta upgrade new build I wasn't expecting RDB Griff to be so good actually. yea dude, RDB is awesome. When you get another orkan do DB Rhino and taran/mag on Gareth. I’ve gotten 2 orkans and an aphid from just the bronze chests in the last two weeks, FYI.
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Post by TooSchoolForCool on May 27, 2018 7:10:51 GMT -5
RightOnI corrected my build with what I could and that's how it looks right now. I don't know what all PDB/RDB or leadhose mean, so I was using brozart 's post as my guide, but some of those he didnt list, could you explain the meaning of those? Also gary, no clue what that is. Ok I looked. PDB=Plasma Death Button(Taran/magnum builds); RDB=Russian Death Button(Tulumbas/pin builds); leadhose griffin= all Punisher setup; gunship=all Molot’s. On a side note, we’re testing a heavy Punisher on test server, so it may be possible to even have a leadhose raijin one day. Don’t bother upgrading more than 3 magnums. I don’t use them at all in my brawling hangar and only one on my mk2 Taran/magnum gareth in my beacon running hangar. Keep gareth, he’s a super fast bot that can go toe to toe with haechi, lancelot, griffin, inquisitor, and still win. I’ve tried magnum/redeemer leo, and he’s just too slow to get into range with the new meta hence why I suggest against magnum brawling with him. I relegated leo to my long range hangar, it’s running flux/gekko now and leo doesn’t work to bad as a sniper with its massive health pool. I ran trident/pin leo, and that also was a pretty good build for low leagues and you do need a mid/long range bot in your hangar. So consider trying that for fun too. Keep the aphids around because they’re quite fun. If you ever come across another pair of orkans, Aphid/orkan rhino and griffin are both valid meta and highly effective. I personally wouldn’t recommend upgrading rhino, he is several meta ago, and although he’s quite fast, rhinos rarely hold up to a orkan/piñata gareth, let alone all of the orkan dash bots I see. Every single one I ever see dies a quick and painful death, it’s just not meta anymore and these days might be a better midranger (Molot’s). 9 is the most I would recommend to level him. Taran/magnum griffin. Good choice, save the jump for retreat and ur golden. Also, only upgrade the tarans, you won’t see a single magnum in top tier and I’m trying to save you wasted time. I mostly just see scourge bulgasari and Taran spectre these days, on the low end, not including people who run shocktrain specters like bad bad pilots did a few meta ago with tulumbas/pin griffin. They’d stand in one place and only fire when they had jump. How boring is it to press jump then fire over and over again? I like to walk around, get my feet dirty. Tulumbas/griffin has gotten me tons of kills back in the day. Keep upgrading the tulumbas, the pins can languish at <10 but tulumbas should be maxed. I hear people still use them in champion league but I don’t see any RDB besides the carcasses laying around. Shocktrains and scourge especially coupled with jump+stealth or dash+shield tend to make short work of them and their effectiveness in higher tier play. Pretty much anything without stealth or dash dies pretty quickly in pure meta matches. And in non meta matches having stealth or dash almost guarantees a million plus score. This is why I only suggest upgrading medium weapons in your hangar, because I see what you’ll eventually gear your hangar towards once you start hitting the highest levels.
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Post by ganjaspartan on May 27, 2018 7:27:13 GMT -5
Don't get rid of ur rajin as for your first leo put 3 pins on it lvl them to 7. I kicked a lot of 「bum-bum」 with a zues pin Leo in gold and diamond for mid range.
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Post by olokos on Jun 14, 2018 11:41:12 GMT -5
Thanks a ton guys. My hangar looks like this right now. BUT I have gotten a hold of Inquisitor. Which one should I switch it for? I thought about getting rid of rhino.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jun 14, 2018 12:41:30 GMT -5
Do you have weapons that could go on it without switching anything?
If so, I'd leave the Rhino and take out the Gary, personally. Rhino can move quickly enough with the shield up to get beacons on big maps but has so much more firepower and more HP on the bot and the shield... but that's just me. It's a much more difficult bot to pilot than the Gary... so I can understand not using it. But yeah, Gary or Rhino.
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Post by ganjaspartan on Jun 14, 2018 13:30:09 GMT -5
Sad to say but let Gary go he's had his time and it's up Thanks a ton guys. My hangar looks like this right now. BUT I have gotten a hold of Inquisitor. Which one should I switch it for? I thought about getting rid of rhino.
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Post by ganjaspartan on Jun 14, 2018 13:35:21 GMT -5
Get another orkan and a lvld thunder and like I said retire Gary you will have a very competitive Inquisitor! Thanks a ton guys. My hangar looks like this right now. BUT I have gotten a hold of Inquisitor. Which one should I switch it for? I thought about getting rid of rhino.
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Post by olokos on Jun 30, 2018 20:10:58 GMT -5
This is my current build and what I've managed to get and upgrade so far: On top of that I also got a Stalker, Jesse, Gl. Patton, Fujin, Raijin and Butch. Haechi might be coming with some component event. From weapons I also have: Loads of magnums, Gekko, Taranx2, Hydra, 2x trident, trebutchet All of the silver weapons. Any suggestions and tips to further improve this hangar?
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