What I absolutely hate about champion league

I am very confused by this.

You are not in champions league yet you hate it and call it the cancer league ? Dash bots do better in champs , because no one targets them, but on then you go on to say it’s all dash bots with no variety?

Look, don’t mean to pick what you’re saying apart. The reality is the damage focus is pervasive across the game. I would even go as far as to say less so in champs as a higher proportion of players genuinely want to win, and not just climb leagues. Of course Adrian’s life expectancy in a raijin is short, it’s junk. Everyone makes choices on what to engage based of their chances of coming out on top and just about anything you will find in champs will come out on top against a raijin.

No, being in expert league i can guarantee you that damage focus is almost nonexistent in expert league. And as for champs being filled with dash lance and griffin, i meant mostly. Sure there is the odd fury, raijin or fujin, but they are somewhat rare due to the fact that they are heavily focused on purely because of their higher health or high vulnerability. It makes no sense to me as i often see adrian aim for 4 caps which is wrong if they want more damage (longer games = more damage)

I'm confused, what the help is this game all about if it isn't about inflicting the most damage to win the battle??? Capping beacons? Seriously? You think that is the final goal? Beacons are a small part, except in BR, of the whole game.... I seriously don't get your post.

No, the point of the game is NOT to inflict more damage. It is to win. Why else would they have increased silver, gold and keys for the winning team? Would you be that (bag of excrement) who drives your team to a quick defeat for a few extra damage points? No thank you. I would rather be a proper team player supporting an actual team rather than a bunch of selfish (mentally disabled people) thank you very much. This is why I consider expert league to be the true top level of play. Anything past that is just disgusting

I think Champions has the fewest tankers, kind of by definition. I didnt really notice much difference across the leagues though coming up. But I haven't seen Expert league since before the Dash bots... Anyway, some games have very strong reds, some games dont. I tend to play against the same randoms every night in Champions league, and I generally remember who is stronger and who is weaker. I enjoy the gameplay. Shocktrains are totally annoying, but I just run more shielded bots. Cheers.

You play as a TEAM so I believe the rewards should be distributed evenly. We're certainly not being ranked by our abilities or match contributions. Others think differently of course and I respect that. So please don't try to explain your stance, I get it.

The main objectives of the game are supposed to be TWO. The first being to capture the beacons. The second being the destruction of thd enemy. Unless your deliberately blind that is exactly the order they are stated in the game. So claiming that beacon control is not the main feature is completely wrong. Or at least it used to be until event task completion became THE #1 objective. Beacon control has actually fallen to #3.

Quite accurate. I too enjoy the gameplay - now that i have a couple dashbots, that is. Soloing in champion is not very hard.

@op, getting matched against full squads is rare if you run solo. I occasionally face 2-3 player squads in both teams. So, it's not a problem.
Shocktrains are manageable if you run solo, but almost unbeatable if you are up against a coordinated team that provide proper support for them and your team doesn't have an answer to it.

Lack of variety is true, but it has always been this way higher up. For better or worse, bringing your most efficient bots in a champion match is almost obligatory. You don't want to face an Orkan Haechi with a CQC Natasha. That's why you get a Bulgasari. Which in turn, makes someone else field something equally powerful to counter your Bulgasari. That's why the build pool is so narrow. Griffins are an endangered species btw.

You will be driven to defeat as in one guy decides to NOT get that one important beacon and instead goes to kill that one raijin on the side. This is how champion league works. I know because i watch adrians live streams. He targets raijins, his teammates target raijins and so do the enemies. He even said it is all about damage in champion. they think damage silver is more important that victory gold

Completely and exactly right!!!  More times than not these morons will hit a red vs capping a beacon!  It drives me up a 「fluffernutter」Nightingale wall!!  The events/tasks call for WINS not damage or kills ( in some cases)  What I see is pilots needing kills and others needing WINS but not working together toward a mutual goal!!!  That is why I wish the event/task would ask for top 3 and not win so my advancement would not hinge on these morons who can't get the win.

You've got to send me a link to a video of your game play.  Because I'm in another world compared to what you describe.

I'm getting hit in every different direction from ST's.  I know where they are and single them to avoid direct hits and trying to flank, however with a Lance, that is a daunting task.  Galahads don't last, all the Heachi/Bulg Orkans start to drool when they see them.  Gareth?, i'll stop there.  Rhino is my other bot and he has a better time flanking however his limitations in charge are a huge liability on most maps.  Sometime you get away most times you do not.  Plus when you drop your shield to unload, you get zapped (hopefully you have enough health at that point), plus the Bulg/Haechi just dashes away, so chasing in a Rhino/Lance is a futile task.

The effort is to catch them without them realizing.  Not an easy task in Champion when players are player aware and hard to catch off guard with a Lance/Rhino.

Too many pro's for a Dash bots, too many shortcomings to bots with Shields.

Please show me how it's done because I'm not getting it.

I know this is a sore subject for many and they feel left out of the current Meta. I liken this to getting trashed by Lances when I was in my Rhino or by Triple Trident Furies prior to Ancilots. By the time I had the Meta to counter them, the meta was starting to shift. The thing to keep in mind is that most of us survived that era and with they will survive the DIES (Dash, Inquisitor, Ember, Shocktrain) era. I'm also going to quote Henry Ford, “Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right." What this means is that if you think you can't, you'll never be able to do it but if you think you can, you will be able to do it. I've lost more games in my own head before the game play was over. 

In my mind, playing is the DIES era is no different than playing in prior meta changes. You need to learn the meta and how to counter it. As you are learning, you'll make a lot of mistakes and die. This is to be expected. It's also expected that you will learn from your mistakes. 

I don't have any videos posted at this time so I can't help much there but... I will say that all of my Rhinos got shelved a long time ago. I didn't see them viable in Masters and I don't see them viable in Champion. Many of my clan mates run Lances and do very will with them so you should be fine running Lances but If you can get some DIES gear, that will help eventually. I say eventually as there is a learning curve to using the Dash bots but knowing how they die will also help you pilot them better. I was fortunate to get DIES gear from events, contests, and components. Components due to the fact I save up 100M WSP prior to the Dash launch. Now I'm hoarding components in anticipation of WS 2.0 so I can trade them for something I want. 

As for the battle, first, you need patience. This is all about timing and position. You need to time Reds weapons use, weapon range, player movements, and their Dash usage. You can't charge in and expect to kill and not be killed. If you charge in, you'll probably die no matter what you are piloting.

So, when in the battle many solo's will drop their Shocktrains first and target beacon runners. This is your first opportunity. Don't worry about catching them without realizing. Many DIES pilots will be over confident. Look for the player that is off on their own or guarding a beacon alone. If the opportunity does not exist, make it exist by pushing the player where you want them. (If you are a fan of Sun Tsu, you know you need to chose your place of battle.) make the pilot make mistakes. If you're going against a Dash, get them to use their Dashes, then attack. If you are using a Lance, don't use your rush mode until you need to close the distance or escape. When you close the gap, don't worry about taking some damage. Plasma will take out a Haechi pretty quick. If your up against a Bulg, don't aim at the shield, aim at the target box on the left side of the bot. This will allow the plasma, or Orkans, to bypass the shield and deliver more damage. You also have to expect where Red will move based on the topography. If you are using Orkans, fire where you think they will go, not where they are. 

While I hate TDM, TDM is a great way to learn ranges, strategy and tactics. 

Gotta hop on the meta-wagon Domino. Resistance & challenge can have it's own rewards, but the frustration though. Meh, to each, their own.

ogpondskum :  The very next day, guess who I see with thier ST Bulg picking off targets... Ran down the flank with my Rhino and give you a little surprise. I was lucky because a couple reds nailed me after I finished you off, maybe 1 more second later and I wouldn't have taken you out., had a good compliment of Spectres and Inquisitors... It was a really.good battle that lasted to the last.sec. had you on the beacon bar but lost in mechout. You caught me off guard sneaking past two blues and Inquisitor/Embered my Lance to a crisp, well played