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Post by - Exteel 2.0 on Jan 30, 2017 21:32:05 GMT -5
You have:
Raijin, Fury, Griffin, Lancelot, Rhino.
(Robots don't change)
What weapons do you put on each?
I'd make a poll, but too many options. Run away with it. Annndd GO!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 21:32:54 GMT -5
Zeus Raijin. Trident Fury. Orkan Pinata Griffin. Ancile Taran Lancelot. Orkan Magnum Rhino
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Post by - Exteel 2.0 on Jan 30, 2017 21:35:15 GMT -5
Zeus Raijin. Trident Fury. Orkan Pinata Griffin. Ancile Taran Lancelot. Orkan Magnum Rhino Top notch suggestions. DB and Hellfife = Good Call. |
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Post by moody on Jan 30, 2017 22:08:34 GMT -5
You have: Raijin, Fury, Griffin, Lancelot, Rhino. (Robots don't change) What weapons do you put on each? I'd make a poll, but too many options. Run away with it. Annndd GO! I actually don't like the options that much. As a hanger It wouldn't do what I wanted. Rajin Trident Fury Trident Griffin DB Lance Plasma thunder Rhino plasma |
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Post by moody on Jan 30, 2017 22:09:15 GMT -5
Maybe make the rajin thunders....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 22:14:17 GMT -5
Raijin, with anything else than Zeus or Tridents are usually tagged as 'Free Damage'
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Post by moody on Jan 30, 2017 22:32:04 GMT -5
Raijin, with anything else than Zeus or Tridents are usually tagged as 'Free Damage' Fair enough. I don't think it would suit my style regardless. |
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Post by Strayed on Jan 30, 2017 23:04:57 GMT -5
Raijin: Thunders, it might actually do something on the close range maps.
Fury: Tridents(obviously)
Griffin: DB
Lancelot: Anicle Taran
Rhino: PDB
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Post by frunobulax on Jan 30, 2017 23:18:17 GMT -5
I don't have a Raijin, but still: Why doesn't he get any love?
Faster than Fury, much more hitpoints, special ability. On paper that should make up for the missing hardpoint.
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Post by moody on Jan 30, 2017 23:18:40 GMT -5
Raijin: Thunders, it might actually do something on the close range maps. Fury: Tridents(obviously) Griffin: DB Lancelot: Anicle Taran Rhino: PDB Rajin Thunder just sounds good. I have seen them be effective a few times. |
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Post by Strayed on Jan 30, 2017 23:30:40 GMT -5
I don't have a Raijin, but still: Why doesn't he get any love? Faster than Fury, much more hitpoints, special ability. On paper that should make up for the missing hardpoint. The Raijin just doesn't have the firepower. It doesn't have the mobility of the carnage & griffin either. While on paper it's faster, it's special ability only makes it immobile, canceling out any speed advantage it may have had. Extra health doesn't mean anything when you're more of a danger to your own team than the enemy. |
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Post by moody on Jan 30, 2017 23:33:28 GMT -5
I don't have a Raijin, but still: Why doesn't he get any love? Faster than Fury, much more hitpoints, special ability. On paper that should make up for the missing hardpoint. The Raijin just doesn't have the firepower. It doesn't have the mobility of the carnage & griffin either. While on paper it's faster, it's special ability only makes it immobile, canceling out any speed advantage it may have had. Extra health doesn't mean anything when you're more of a danger to your own team than the enemy. Hate tripping over Rajin feet. |
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Post by K A Z on Jan 31, 2017 7:26:26 GMT -5
Raijin can climb, and that feature could be a nice combo with Trebs on springfield...although still relatively low dmg output and a very limited use. Other drawback is low hardpoint placement - that thing is a huge bullet catcher, that cannot shoot over low buildings like e.g. Carnage/Fury/Natasha. On top of that those things usually draw attention almost as well as gekko.
Altogether it was rather a seldom situation when Raijin would put my bot to the ground, whereas I smacked quite few of them and that is using Light/Med bots. I just love when they go to bastion mode...one of my favorite targets when using aphids or trident.
Imo the Fujin is more useful quad, especially since it can share ancile with other blues (shielded ones are especially good match for it).
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Post by buzzard on Jan 31, 2017 20:27:52 GMT -5
Zeus Raijin. Trident Fury. Orkan Pinata Griffin. Ancile Taran Lancelot. Orkan Magnum Rhino Great suggestions. Only thing I would change is Orkan ancike lance rather than Taran. |
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Post by moody on Jan 31, 2017 21:21:24 GMT -5
Zeus Raijin. Trident Fury. Orkan Pinata Griffin. Ancile Taran Lancelot. Orkan Magnum Rhino Great suggestions. Only thing I would change is Orkan ancike lance rather than Taran. Personally, even if I personally preferred that for that given bot, it would unbalance the hangar too much towards splash, not enough plasma. As listed it is right on 50/50 splash / plasma. Maybe slightly more splash due to the not so effective magnums on the rhino. Your version would be 70/30 splash / plasma. I think the new meta is going to need a lot more plasma, or something to take down anciles. |
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Post by frunobulax on Feb 1, 2017 7:24:55 GMT -5
The question is really if you want a robot that works against all enemies (splash) or one that will work only against a certain type or shields (plasma). With a DB setup I can at least make a dent in the armor of any given opponent (if I get in range), and it is easier catching those annoying Stalkers if you can unload a lot of damage in short time. I'm leaning towards splash in the hangar I'm targeting.
The problem might be that the game leans heavily towards mid and long range at the moment, so with both Orkan nor Taran you have a good chance of getting blown up before you get into range (unless you always eject from maps like Springfield or Yama). As I'm not a big fan of the ranged medium weapons (Molot, Hydra), it might be better to target heavy weapons and robots with heavy hardpoints, like Carnage, Fury, or even Natasha. And maybe it even turns out those Molot Griffs are more effective than I currently think and give us a viable 800m range robot.
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Post by Cyklown on Feb 1, 2017 14:28:12 GMT -5
Great suggestions. Only thing I would change is Orkan ancike lance rather than Taran. Personally, even if I personally preferred that for that given bot, it would unbalance the hangar too much towards splash, not enough plasma. As listed it is right on 50/50 splash / plasma. Maybe slightly more splash due to the not so effective magnums on the rhino. Your version would be 70/30 splash / plasma. I think the new meta is going to need a lot more plasma, or something to take down anciles. Aside from the rise of the Ancelot, I'm always going to err on the side of the splash by not counting my Trident slots towards it. They're really just well rounded long range fire. That being said, I'm a big proponent on Taran Ancelots rather than Orkan, and not just because you're helpless against other Ancelots. You'r taking yourself "down" to Plasmahad level firepower (during uptime, you're midway between Gary and Plasmahad firepower sustained) as it is. Given the massive survivability of the bot, aiming for the highest possible raw damage output on your two hardpoints seems optimal. But that's all observations from fighting the darned things. Once I unlock my Gold chest (because you just *know* the only way I'll get an Ancile or Lancelot is if I buy one outright before I unlock) and try it out I may wind up saying something more like "%#€ Plasmahads never want to die" |
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Post by moody on Feb 1, 2017 18:55:55 GMT -5
You have: Raijin, Fury, Griffin, Lancelot, Rhino. (Robots don't change) What weapons do you put on each? I'd make a poll, but too many options. Run away with it. Annndd GO! Been some interesting discussion about this. Is there a purpose? |
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Post by - Exteel 2.0 on Feb 2, 2017 3:48:38 GMT -5
You have: Raijin, Fury, Griffin, Lancelot, Rhino. (Robots don't change) What weapons do you put on each? I'd make a poll, but too many options. Run away with it. Annndd GO! Been some interesting discussion about this. Is there a purpose? Yes. There is. Dredd77 please move thread to GD category. |
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Post by Dredd77 on Feb 2, 2017 9:13:35 GMT -5
MODERATION: Moved per request to General Discussion
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Post by moody on Feb 2, 2017 16:13:33 GMT -5
Been some interesting discussion about this. Is there a purpose? Yes. There is. Dredd77 please move thread to GD category. I am intrigued..... |
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Post by vigusfatbelly on Feb 2, 2017 16:25:01 GMT -5
You have: Raijin, Fury, Griffin, Lancelot, Rhino. (Robots don't change) What weapons do you put on each? I'd make a poll, but too many options. Run away with it. Annndd GO! Raijin-maxed Kwk Fury-Trident Griffen-Taran/Mag Lance-Ancilie/Orkans Rhino-Punisher/PunisherTT |
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Post by - Exteel 2.0 on Feb 3, 2017 19:12:30 GMT -5
Yes. There is. Dredd77 please move thread to GD category. I am intrigued..... There used to be a player theory that Au/WSP bots and weapons put a tilt on your MM score. Also, robot categories(L/M/H), would bump up your rating. Whether or not it still does, is a 50-50 from everything I've seen/read. You have the two most expensive Au Heavies, and the two most expensive WSP Heavies. Only weapon suggestions thus far that aren't Au/WSP are Pinatas, Thunders, and Molots. That's Side A. Maybe, possibly, on paper, the highest possible rating. Side B is just a balance question, how to equip the bots and have the max efficiency against a diverse group of enemies. It's something I'll probably be testing soon. |
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Post by - Exteel 2.0 on Feb 7, 2017 1:15:16 GMT -5
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Post by verrm on Feb 7, 2017 6:22:30 GMT -5
You have: Raijin, Fury, Griffin, Lancelot, Rhino. (Robots don't change) What weapons do you put on each? I'd make a poll, but too many options. Run away with it. Annndd GO! Thunder Raijin - beacon hold (Trident Raijin is also great, but in an open-space beacon) Trident Fury - medium ranger Plasma Griffin - Knifefighter and good vs energy shielders Thunder/Orkan Lancelot - versatile knifefighter and beacon capper DB Rhino - A shieldbot buster A summary is: 1 medium, 1 beacon holder, 3 knifefighter (1 vs energyshielders, 1 versatile beaconcapper shieldbot, 1 vs shieldbots) itll do fine. The Raijin I count not as a knifefighter as his role is purely on holding beacon and making anyone approaching pay in blood every meter traveled. |
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Post by Tyrannosaurus on Feb 7, 2017 6:36:55 GMT -5
I'd tell the devs to add in light and medium Tridents. So I'd put Tridents on literally every weapon slot, the meta is Tridents anyway, Tridents are broken, so might as well use them.
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