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Post by ΛNNlHlLΛTRlX on Feb 7, 2018 11:06:11 GMT -5
Some observations since the new update:
KoTH is ok. It’s growing on me. I like it better than TDM or even domination. Unfortunately, I can’t seem to get many games because the wait times are insane...I give up after 5 minutes and pick the random option instead which, about 70-80% of the time, ends up being TDM (which I detest). ??
Removing more of our ability to choose by lumping 3 battle modes together is not good. A lot of players bail on battle modes they don’t like, leaving their team...you guessed it, shorthanded. Meanwhile, KoTH is apparently too sparsely populated to get a game in a reasonable length of time.
May I suggest that Pixonic give us two random options:
a. TDM and domination for the campers among us.
b. KoTH and beacon rush for people who know what a beacon is.
Currently, battles are not decided by which team has more mk2 gear or more OP equipment. They are decided by which team has the fewest leavers (whether they be tankers or the aforementioned leavers who bail on undesirable battle modes).
Pixonic, for God’s sake, please use some common sense and fix this mess.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Feb 7, 2018 11:39:50 GMT -5
we found KOTH battles had less wait times when running a full squad verses going solo or in smaller groups. My crew has been running in the evenings and your more then welcome to join us As i recall the last time I picked you up we had a pretty good run. KOTH matches for us have been excellent and im enjoying a 75% win rate at present.
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Post by ΛNNlHlLΛTRlX on Feb 7, 2018 11:56:28 GMT -5
we found KOTH battles had less wait times when running a full squad verses going solo or in smaller groups. My crew has been running in the evenings and your more then welcome to join us As i recall the last time I picked you up we had a pretty good run. KOTH matches for us have been excellent and im enjoying a 75% win rate at present. Pick me up!
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Post by bronzeknee on Feb 7, 2018 12:18:28 GMT -5
I would prefer if they rolled KOTH, Domination and Beacon Rush into one. I don't like the idea of mixing Domination and TDM.
Or better, have 5 different game modes: KOTH, Domination, Beacon Rush, TDM and Random.
Players that choose random get a ~50% bonus to their silver reward. There would be enough random players than to help fill any given queue at any given time.
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Post by Radar love on Feb 7, 2018 12:19:00 GMT -5
Let's not have two random modes. This still does not give me a choice. Have three modes; dom,br and koth. I'm a Br kinda guy the others I can take or leave. Better yet, rotate which mode is singled out. Still just get rid off tdm, koth can fit it's space.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 12:30:03 GMT -5
4 modes, choose the one you want. Simple.
The ONLY reason we can't choose is that they want to sell hangars. The more people who fall into Pix's plan and buy the hangars are more people who'll buy more bots / weapons / silver / upgrades. With a supposed 1 million players, I really don't think wait times are an issue.
You can't put Dom with TDM. Dom, as is, is fine (maps are debatable), but TDM is garbage.
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Post by Deadeye on Feb 7, 2018 12:38:32 GMT -5
Some observations since the new update: KoTH is ok. It’s growing on me. I like it better than TDM or even domination. Unfortunately, I can’t seem to get many games because the wait times are insane...I give up after 5 minutes and pick the random option instead which, about 70-80% of the time, ends up being TDM (which I detest). ?? Removing more of our ability to choose by lumping 3 battle modes together is not good. A lot of players bail on battle modes they don’t like, leaving their team...you guessed it, shorthanded. Meanwhile, KoTH is apparently too sparsely populated to get a game in a reasonable length of time. May I suggest that Pixonic give us two random options: a. TDM and domination for the campers among us. b. KoTH and beacon rush for people who know what a beacon is. Currently, battles are not decided by which team has more mk2 gear or more OP equipment. They are decided by which team has the fewest leavers (whether they be tankers or the aforementioned leavers who bail on undesirable battle modes). Pixonic, for God’s sake, please use some common sense and fix this mess.
those measly emojis are not cutting it Mom.
If we're proposing how Pix should handle game mode selection, well why lump any of them? I like to tailor my hanger to each mode, but can't do that when they're all lumped together. If they have to be lumped in some manner, then I'm fine with Mom's suggestion, though for different reasons.
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Post by ᕲΣΣᕲƧ on Feb 7, 2018 12:54:20 GMT -5
I think mixing domination and beacon rush together then TDM and KOTH is the way it should have been done. That way if people want to play the old modes they can. If not they can play the new modes. Otherwise separate all 4 modes. Or just get rid of KOTH and TDM completely. I don't play KOTH or on IOS, so I have no idea what wait times are like there. If wait times are more than 5 minutes, I'd imagine it's safe to say KOTH is unpopular.
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Post by ΛNNlHlLΛTRlX on Feb 7, 2018 13:08:28 GMT -5
I’d like the ability to choose from all 4 modes just like everyone else but I don’t think top tier has sufficient bodies to populate 4 modes. They don’t even have enough players to populate the two options we have right now.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Feb 7, 2018 13:09:37 GMT -5
Just get rid of random modes, or add it to the individual mode options. Give me my $&@?!%# choice if I want it.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Feb 7, 2018 13:10:54 GMT -5
I’d like the ability to choose from all 4 modes just like everyone else but I don’t think top tier has sufficient bodies to populate 4 modes. They don’t even have enough players to populate the two options we have right now. Then they should stop introducing new modes if the game can't even support the ones they have!!!!!
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Post by ΛNNlHlLΛTRlX on Feb 7, 2018 13:55:34 GMT -5
I’d like the ability to choose from all 4 modes just like everyone else but I don’t think top tier has sufficient bodies to populate 4 modes. They don’t even have enough players to populate the two options we have right now. Then they should stop introducing new modes if the game can't even support the ones they have!!!!! No argument here. Too bad we’re not in charge. ?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 13:58:19 GMT -5
I’d like the ability to choose from all 4 modes just like everyone else but I don’t think top tier has sufficient bodies to populate 4 modes. They don’t even have enough players to populate the two options we have right now. Then that's a direct result of the problems with the league system. There were never problems under the old system with match making, or at least none that I recall (other than clubbing which this system was supposed to get rid of).
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Post by bronzeknee on Feb 7, 2018 14:03:31 GMT -5
I’d like the ability to choose from all 4 modes just like everyone else but I don’t think top tier has sufficient bodies to populate 4 modes. They don’t even have enough players to populate the two options we have right now. This really has nothing to do with number of players, it is matter of organization. Saying we don't have enough players is unnecessarily shielding Pixonic, let's not do that. If you add a 5th random mode, and give bonus rewards for people who play it, you can use those players to fill wherever necessary. That would function properly if the rewards from the random mode were sufficiently high (ie 30-50% of the player base queues random, and are used to fill whatever is being queued up by people who select a mode at the time). The reason Pixonic doesn't do that is because they want to sell additional hangers. They've said as much in response to players who have questioned it, talked about how players need to "adapt" to the circumstances of the battle.
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Post by NerFB on Feb 7, 2018 14:13:36 GMT -5
I’d like the ability to choose from all 4 modes just like everyone else but I don’t think top tier has sufficient bodies to populate 4 modes. They don’t even have enough players to populate the two options we have right now. This really has nothing to do with number of players, it is matter of organization. Saying we don't have enough players is unnecessarily shielding Pixonic, let's not do that. If you add a 5th random mode, and give bonus rewards for people who play it, you can use those players to fill wherever necessary. That would function properly if the rewards from the random mode were sufficiently high (ie 30-50% of the player base queues random, and are used to fill whatever is being queued up by people who select a mode at the time). The reason Pixonic doesn't do that is because they want to sell additional hangers. They've said as much in response to players who have questioned it, talked about how players need to "adapt" to the circumstances of the battle. Yes I agree they are pushing hangers like a Dealer in a High School... but, on iOS Europe Champ there just aren’t enough pilots to support 5 modes. This afternoon I’ve just seen the same pilots time and again on Random, as I’m not waiting for KotH.
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Post by mallexx222 on Feb 7, 2018 14:26:13 GMT -5
It really feels like we have come full circle on this one and don't take my word for it as there are numerous posts out there on MM dating years back.
War Robots was built on the back of Domination mode. Love it, hate it, that's a fact and there is no changing it. Their entire franchise is based on this mode, placing pilots onto classic maps in tried true mech builds.
Okay so that's the nostalgic view which as we all know never lasts.
Players wanted new modes and new machines okay BUT they wanted them NOW. Pressure mounted on Pix to produce and like any new TV show it started off fairly well. BR and Knight Bots (Not in those order BTW. Who were also much maligned when they appeared.) Lets not forget the once dreaded and feared Gepard. But things were more or less balanced. This was back when Pix was Pix not Mail.r.u.
The result was that sales climbed as participation climbed and the app rose to new heights and settled in around top 20. THIS is what eventually attracted Mail.r.u. as they troll for these types of apps which fuel their primary business, Internet email services. It's a multi billion dollar industry so War Robots is quite inconsequential its just one log among many such apps on the Mail.r.u. fire. Fills one of their many revenue streams.
Since then they applied Mail.r.u's model of, bigger, better, newer, faster, get those that will pay to pay, reduce frills that avoid spending etc.., you get it as you are living it. But when it is all over War Robots will be sold yet again for whatever they can get for it.
And here we are. The correct thing, IMHO and it is only that, is to put all 4 choices out there for 3 to 4 weeks and track attendance with the understanding that only 2 would remain those with the highest attendance and lowest match wait times. My guess is that Dom and BR would remain. Drop the others because you are all correct, there are simply not enough pilots to make games on 4 modes. HOWEVER: You can drive ALL the sheep through multiple modes and offer them purchases like multiple hangars to help get them through it.;-) For a mere 7,500 AU each. Want to buy more AU...well right this way my friends...right this way.
You are correct runamok there were no issues with the old system of match making but to quote a popular song phrase 'Welcome to the new age' and it is indeed radio active.
Happy Hunting as always.
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Post by bronzeknee on Feb 7, 2018 14:32:25 GMT -5
This really has nothing to do with number of players, it is matter of organization. Saying we don't have enough players is unnecessarily shielding Pixonic, let's not do that. If you add a 5th random mode, and give bonus rewards for people who play it, you can use those players to fill wherever necessary. That would function properly if the rewards from the random mode were sufficiently high (ie 30-50% of the player base queues random, and are used to fill whatever is being queued up by people who select a mode at the time). The reason Pixonic doesn't do that is because they want to sell additional hangers. They've said as much in response to players who have questioned it, talked about how players need to "adapt" to the circumstances of the battle. Yes I agree they are pushing hangers like a Dealer in a High School... but, on iOS Europe Champ there just aren’t enough pilots to support 5 modes. This afternoon I’ve just seen the same pilots time and again on Random, as I’m not waiting for KotH. There would really only be 4 modes effectively, random is just a choice that would fill other queues.
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