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Post by Strayed on Jan 30, 2017 3:51:10 GMT -5
Just wondering whether or not a DB rhino could take out an aniclot. The DB griff seems too fragile and slow to do it. The thunder orkan lancelot is just too slow in general. The DB Galahad doesn't have enough durability with shield down or enough to resist an Orkan Lancelot setup. It doesn't have enough firepower to deliver a decisive blow either.
I'm thinking that the DB rhino could charge into the anicle while tanking damage from either two tarans or two orkans(orkans will damage the rhino quite a bit but won't kill it outright or cripple it enough) and unload from point blank at an inescapable range(even with rush).
Plasma seems like it could do the job as well(with the recent lancelot shield nerf), but all plasma bots might be exposed(with possible exception of Plasma Galahad/Gareth) for too long.
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Post by Loop_Stratos on Jan 30, 2017 5:00:56 GMT -5
Plasma Gala is a counter that takes time, but fails if it's flanked.
Cornershooting with a plasma bot might work if it packs tarans.
T/O Lance might be able to do it, with Thunder to wreck shield then unload orks. Not sure how it fares the orkan duel however.
These are theoritical, since I hardly face one enough to be a problem.
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Post by challenger on Jan 30, 2017 5:40:24 GMT -5
My experience is that pdb galahad is a great counter to taran ancilot.
Orkan ancilot is harder to beat but still posible.
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Post by Deadalready on Jan 30, 2017 5:49:48 GMT -5
Aphids seem to have been buffed to do extra damage to shields at moment
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Post by Fιεχροιητ™ on Jan 30, 2017 7:09:01 GMT -5
I might have to try the DB Rhino out later... Thing is, clans out there run multiple of these at a time and taking out even one of them is terribly hard with any setup.
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Post by buzzard on Jan 30, 2017 14:04:32 GMT -5
Just wondering whether or not a DB rhino could take out an aniclot. The DB griff seems too fragile and slow to do it. The thunder orkan lancelot is just too slow in general. The DB Galahad doesn't have enough durability with shield down or enough to resist an Orkan Lancelot setup. It doesn't have enough firepower to deliver a decisive blow either. I'm thinking that the DB rhino could charge into the anicle while tanking damage from either two tarans or two orkans(orkans will damage the rhino quite a bit but won't kill it outright or cripple it enough) and unload from point blank at an inescapable range(even with rush). Plasma seems like it could do the job as well(with the recent lancelot shield nerf), but all plasma bots might be exposed(with possible exception of Plasma Galahad/Gareth) for too long. I run an orkan ancilot. The only thing that has been able to take me down solo is a bot sporting lvl 12 weapons (my ancilot is 7/8). Possibly at range on an open map it can be done since lance is pokey when rush isnt active. The only way I can see an equally leveled bot soloing an ancilot is if the ancilot pilot doesn't know what he is doing and the other has some serious skills. |
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Post by ☆ CORVUSNEX ☆ on Jan 30, 2017 14:29:34 GMT -5
Just wondering whether or not a DB rhino could take out an aniclot. The DB griff seems too fragile and slow to do it. The thunder orkan lancelot is just too slow in general. The DB Galahad doesn't have enough durability with shield down or enough to resist an Orkan Lancelot setup. It doesn't have enough firepower to deliver a decisive blow either. I'm thinking that the DB rhino could charge into the anicle while tanking damage from either two tarans or two orkans(orkans will damage the rhino quite a bit but won't kill it outright or cripple it enough) and unload from point blank at an inescapable range(even with rush). Plasma seems like it could do the job as well(with the recent lancelot shield nerf), but all plasma bots might be exposed(with possible exception of Plasma Galahad/Gareth) for too long.
I run an orkan ancilot on Android and so far it seems the only way to bring one down is combined fire. I have played probably 60 matches or so since I brought the Ancile up to level 11 and every time the bot has died it has been to massed fire.
I have dueled a couple of DB Rhinos but each time the result was inconclusive due to outside interference from either side. Most DB pilots will empty their rockets into the shield at first opportunity, resulting in moderate damage to the Ancilot. Dual maxed Orkans does about 2/3 damage to the Rhino, so then it comes down to who can blow off weapons before the Rhino's Pinatas reload.
I contend that the Ancilot isn't meant to go 1v1 against other heavies. I treat it as an escort bot, to get my teammates into a heavily contested area and help keep them alive while providing a couple of Orkans or Tarans in support. My Ancilot draws heavy fire because I am always escorting my teammates lancelots, rhinos and griffins into heavy firefights and it tends to draw A LOT of enemy fire.
Funny enough, the first time I faced a red team ancilot, it was on PP and it died pretty quickly from the combined fire from my TT Fury and a blue team Rhino.
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Jan 30, 2017 14:50:25 GMT -5
The Ancilot is a team effort...when you see one, all guns focus on it... Jumping inside the shield with a leveled DBG works when you have team mates helping out.
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Jan 30, 2017 15:26:33 GMT -5
Setups like that take one directly facing, and at least one in another direction (that's preferably plasma)
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Jan 30, 2017 15:38:27 GMT -5
I use Plasma Gals against Ancilots and you can break their physical shields easier now.
I see more if the Taran/Ancil Lances than the Orkan/Anvil Lances and the Orkan versions are dead meat to my Plasma Gal. The use of the Ancil makes Orkan Lance easier to kill since there's no Thunder to contend with and I just need to stay outside 305m to get the kill.
For my Plasma Gal to kill the Ancile/Taran Lancelot, I have to hope for an ambush or a 2-vs-1 engagement --- or get an ideal corner firing position and hope to get lucky. Otherwise, if I have to fight them 1-vs-1, I'll just try to at blow off some of their physical shields and hope the pilot is a bad gunner --- cause otherwise I'm sacrificing my Plasma Galahad just to make the Lance easy meat for the next guy.
IMO, the Ancilot is a decent setup, but it has to be used either in 2-3s or backed by mid-range support, otherwise it just doesn't have the firepower to go 1-vs-1 without listing big chunks of its physical shield and HP (that Ancil/energy shield glitch is a real pain and I hope it gets fixed soon cause that shield HP isn't what you think).
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jan 30, 2017 16:56:47 GMT -5
I face dB rhinos often on android. The only time this works is when they have help. Otherwise I just laugh, and my ancile is only lvl 10 atm. Concentrated effort seems best, but everyone in the near vicinity needs to be on board.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 16:57:50 GMT -5
I thought the rocket galahad was the best ways to kill an Ancile Lancelot.
It is fast enough to get within the shield and fast enough to retreat
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Jan 30, 2017 18:20:45 GMT -5
Pretty much covered by many here..
Plasmahad can wear down a shield section and maintain distance from an ork Ancilot.
Thunder ork Lance (imo) probably the best equipped assuming you can cover distance and get nice and close quickly so Orks are effective. (thunder to bust down the shield and get 90% of rockets on target).
DBs can either bear hug, or single fire pinatas to bust the shield and then unload Orks. You probably won't kill the Ancilot, but you'll at least have him pretty hurt.
Other than that it's all about multiple guns on the Ancilot. Need 2v1 whenever possible.
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Jan 31, 2017 2:33:19 GMT -5
Been thinking of a pun ork rhino build as an anti ancilot build. Punishers to burn the shield down (and keep it down) and unload with Orks when they're vulnerable.
I just don't have maxed punishers to test it out. May try it on the next TS. Build is largely bot specific though, so it'd definitely be situational.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Jan 31, 2017 2:52:08 GMT -5
its not a bad idea, though i cant see that a taran/ancile lancelot would even choose to engage with any type of rhino in the first place  . As for the orkan/ancile variant, i definitely wouldnt advise attempting a kill with any type of rhino |
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Post by Strayed on Jan 31, 2017 2:55:37 GMT -5
A db rhino can take out an orkan anicle lancelot depending on whether or not rush is recharged.
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Jan 31, 2017 3:33:27 GMT -5
A db rhino can take out an orkan anicle lancelot depending on whether or not rush is recharged. Yep, done the bear hug a few times with success. Always nice to catch a Taran Lancile when their Tarans and rush are on cooldown. |
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Jan 31, 2017 3:35:00 GMT -5
its not a bad idea, though i cant see that a taran/ancile lancelot would even choose to engage with any type of rhino in the first place . As for the orkan/ancile variant, i definitely wouldnt advise attempting a kill with any type of rhino True that. Just been kicking ideas around on "how" to effectively engage a Lancile. Keeping the shield down is the biggest hurdle, which incidentally makes firearms pretty valuable. |
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Post by [AURA] Pîśtäçhįø on Jan 31, 2017 3:40:28 GMT -5
Stalker magnums if I'm right. Activate stealth then circle him. Don't know if it's gonna work.
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Jan 31, 2017 3:48:22 GMT -5
I face dB rhinos often on android. The only time this works is when they have help. Otherwise I just laugh, and my ancile is only lvl 10 atm. Concentrated effort seems best, but everyone in the near vicinity needs to be on board. Concentrated efforts can work against 1, but it's pretty futile when you face 2 or 3 or, like yesterday when my team had the misfortune of being MMed with a full squad of Clan ranked 2, 6 of them at once and maxed (how that happened I don't know, the highest bot of all sick of us was a 10/10 Griffin withnot even that stellar of win %) |
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Jan 31, 2017 7:44:52 GMT -5
Aphid Stalker:
Enter ancile when you recognise that the Lance has just fully unloaded, whether it be Orks or Ts.
Discharge aphids when inside ancile, and stay inside.
Stealth when the Lance has its guns facing you, should have about 5sec left on the Aph reload.
When there's 3 seconds of stealth left, discharge aphids again then seek cover.
Rinse and repeat.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Jan 31, 2017 7:49:26 GMT -5
Orkan Cossack:
PUP (Pull-Up and Peek) at the Lance's weapon range +50m.
Recognise who the Lance is targeting; if the Lance is seeking a target, just buzz off and do whatever else you could be doing.
If the Lance is locked and loaded on a target, fly in to directly behind the Lance.
If a team mate has a thunder, let them do their thing and be patient, then unload.
If you're in this alone, get your orkan just inside the ancile (when you're behind the Lance and completely unnoticed) and unload.
Immediately create separation with a hop-back, then seek cover.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Jan 31, 2017 7:55:08 GMT -5
Thunder Carnage:
Always keep that ancile nullified.
Although this sacrifices stealth, it opens options for team mates.
Recognise if the Lance is hunting or scanning for prey. If the Lance is scanning, do a quick scan yourself and reassess the situation.
If the Lance is on the hunt, flank the Lance, keeping the ancile down and closing ground until within 150m.
When inside 150m, activate rush and stick your thunders into the Lance's back, circle strafing at point blank until the job is done.
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Post by Thunder Carnage on Jan 31, 2017 7:56:59 GMT -5
Thunder piñata Leo:
Take down Ancile with Thunder, even at 500m it takes max damage from the Thunder.
Unload piñatas onto Lancelot and run to cover.
If Lancelot is distracted, flank and spank that 「bum-bum」 with your Thunder
If Lancelot is actively targeting you, run and hide until Piñatas are loaded, then pop out, do your business, then head behind cover(Leo is faster than the Lance without rush). If it has cornered you, walk directly onto its shield, the Leo will climb it and as it is tall af, the thunder will be above the shield. Tank the damage while you empty the thunder, you will most likely cripple it and/or blow off its ancile, if you don't outright kill it.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Jan 31, 2017 7:57:50 GMT -5
ECU Cossack:
Cap side beacon.
Press "menu".
Press "Leave Battle".
Press "OK".
Click the home button.
Tap and hold the War Robots application button until all applications vibrate and display a monochrome X in the top right-hand corner of each box.
Locate the X assigned to the War Robots application, and press it.
Press "OK".
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. As for the orkan/ancile variant, i definitely wouldnt advise attempting a kill with any type of rhino 
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