What build is the strongest mid range Currently?

Someone started a similar thread some days ago, although he didn’t include builds with components bots or weapons. The Fury Zeus won the poll with a huge advantage (31 votes vs 3). In my opinion, the best “classic” midrangers are the Zeus Fury and the Tempest Fury: the first is probably better when going solo, the second is excellent at suppressing enemies so it’s a precious bot in clan battles. Of course a ST Haechi/Bulgasari can deal more damage, but it’s impossible to obtain unless you pay huge sums or spent most hours of the day grinding in the last event.

I've been playing since September so I have no experience with Fury or Bulgasari. In my experience though I would say the Natasha with Thunders/Magnums is best. It just rips through anything in Silver or even Gold 3. The exception is the odd Haechi or Bulgasari.

The Thunder Magnum Natasha is a close range build. We are talking about midrangers (500m - 600m). Anyway, the build you're talking about is not good even as a brawler, although it could be somewhat ok in lower leagues.

Ancile/thunder/magnum is good. Natasha might be slow, but this setup is ok for defending a beacon. It is fine at the lower leagues, but higher up you see a lot more plasma than you used to (to counter haechi) so this is pretty much garbage up there. 

My favorite midrange build (since i am too poor for a fury) is a zeus gekko natasha. It's better IMHO, because a maxed gekko can do more than a maxed zeus can in a full clip. Yes, it takes 2 extra seconds (reload while firing) to fire a gekko, but the extra damage is worth it. Plus, gekkos have 1100 m range, so you can almost half a maxed (not mk2) haechi's health by the time it gets into zeus range. So if I am correct, and do correct me if i'm wrong, a zeus gekko natasha should do more damage than a zeus fury in a full clip. 

Natasha and fury stats are the same, same health at every level and same speed. Only difference is the hardpoints.

I agree.

Something else that comes into play in MRS is how you want to apply damage.

As far as team damage goes, the shocktrain is undefeated.

For mid range sustain, Molots and Tempests are king.

For poke, tridents/tulumbas/pins still fairly strong with full damage and high splash and maximum range.

At MRS/Capper Flex, the Zeus/Scourge/Pin is the most useful.

And then the bot type: the closer you are to flexing [sic], the more mobility you want.

Sustain builds will want higher durability, so if you’re going gunhose, get muscle bots.

Poke and flex builds need the speed.

Hardpoints = firepower. More guns, more power but (usually) less mobility.

A Tempest Carnage has slightly less (the difference is really low) firepower than a Molot Griffin. It's not enough, in my opinion, altough the Tempest Carnage is much better than a Molot Griffin due to its high mobility.

No, a Tempest/Molot T Lancelot has more firepower and it also has much greater durability against the weapons which can hit you more often when you run Tempests: Zeus, Gekkos and Trebuchets.
In terms of relative firepower, a Molot T delivers 1.74x the damage of a light Molot, while a Tempest 2.67x. So, the Lancelot has a firepower of 6.15 Molots, while the Tempest Carnage only 5.34.

I think it's very close. The Shocktrain is OP. But the Zeus Fury is the king. 

Shocktrain got a slight nerf with the Xmas patch, as all shield bots should block the laser now. 

I don't know about Champion league, but when I get pulled into a Champion game, I hide behind a rock until someone kills the Shocktrain reds. I let the laser guys duke it out first, before I join the fray. I also run multiple shield bots depending on the day (Ancilot, Thunder Orkan Lancelot, Galahad, Rhino {Not all at once]). 

I am aware of the damage of each.  I have been running 3 tempests (now I have 4) since the summer event and have used it in nearly 4000 wins in 5 months running it mostly on carnage, lance, and Leo.  I agree with you that energy weapons are an achilles heel for any carnage and tempest carnage is more vulnerable than a zeus carnage because it spends more time in the open.  That said, my personal experience is that tempest carnage is the best of the three for the reasons I have given.  It is more survivable, faster, and the ancile is more important in the mid-to-long range than the lance's shield because of the frequency of missile attacks, the 2x damage that all kinetic weapons now do to physical shields and the ability the ancile to both regenerate and protect allied bots.  For me, there is no comparison.    Here is a typical example  of gameplay I recorded right after I made the comment about tempest carnage.  Note how much more quickly you can get to the center beacon with a carnage than a lance, how the carnage protects basically all of the bots around it with the ancile, how it is itself the most durable bot in the scrum before enentually getting overrun after helping to hold the beacon against a couple of waves in winning domination play against E/M/C level opponents with a level 12/9 tempest carnage.  Also note that some of what I was doing would not have been possible in a lance because the firing angle for the side weapons is worse than having it on top b/c you need to expose the bot to incoming attack.     

I should add a Tempest Carnage, when I meet them in iOS Champions League, they hit like a car. But most Tempest in my League is Fury, they hit like a truck. It is like 2 Taran on Kuminho vs 3 Taran Bulgasari.

I think Carnage die faster to ST, Zeus, Scourge and Tempest. At least in iOS Champions League, which 80%-90% run them as mid range. RDB and Trident probably only 10%-20% of mid range in my League. But still, your point is valid and thanks for your input.

I have a tempest fury, zues fury, scourgasari and a winasari.

All of them are brilliant but ST and Scourge are the best.

Scourgasari is not very popular but is easily the best suppression bot in game.

I was actually just about to throw in Temp Carnage as an honorable mention. Played it for the first time yesterday and had an absolute blast. Most fun I’ve had playing the game in months. I got on LINE app afterwards and was asking “why do I not hear much about this setup and why has no one told me how awesome and fun it is!!??

I was running my Temps on a Raijin and the damage is great but it’s sooo slow and such a pain to slowly crawl over a few feet to get a clear shot, another thing that’s great about the Carnage’s mobility is that you can actually play the Temps like Punishers if you want at times and then if things start to get hectic, you can fall back pretty quick.

I’m sure it’s probably not the best but as I said, certainly an honorable mention.

I didn’t vote cause I have experience with very little on the list so I feel I’m not equipped enough to answer that. I will say RDB should be crossed off the list. It’s just not that great. Not in the bubble bath of Ancile that is today’s Meta. Even Scourge Gekko Griff is a better option IMO. I’m using on of those now in my range hangar.

I also have a Zeus Fury and it does a great job but I don’t run it much anymore cause it’s boring to me. I’m 2k components away from a 3rd Tempest and I cant wait to slap them on the Fury (I’m a huge kinetic fan lately).

Anyway, I’m pretty sure one of the Dashies with Shocktrains or even Scourges is the best. There’s a reason champ league hangars are dominated with them and it ain’t cause they suck.

12's.  You won't get much fun out of any of them until you have at least 2 of them at level 8.