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Post by dashbotzop on Dec 6, 2017 14:28:22 GMT -5
Just asking which is better and which I should go for.
Currently have Orkan/Pinata griffin.
Keep as is or convert to Orkan/Aphid?
Thanks
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Dec 6, 2017 14:38:44 GMT -5
No need to choose one over the other. Play both as the mood suits you. They are both fun, the DB will have more power, but so what, just have fun eh!
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Post by Koalabear on Dec 6, 2017 14:54:39 GMT -5
DB Griffin has more brute burst damage. Stuka or Aphid Griffin has more play variability and longetivity. Basically, that means that you have the ability to shoot over obstacles, softening up a target before you jump in for the kill. Plus, unlike a Taran/Aphid Griffin, you can still play the lazy way and just hit the big red button to fire the Aphids. Sure, you fire off 2 Orkans too, but they reload in a second, while if you do that with Tarans, you've wasted a precious shot!
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Post by moody on Dec 6, 2017 16:53:50 GMT -5
Other thing is that aphids, if they all hit, have a better dpm than pinatas.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 6, 2017 17:01:15 GMT -5
Other thing is that aphids, if they all hit, have a better dpm than pinatas. Which, if you take into account that hitting from above tends to make them all hit if they do, makes Dreadnought a good map to run it. |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Dec 6, 2017 17:38:03 GMT -5
Other thing is that aphids, if they all hit, have a better dpm than pinatas. Which, if you take into account that hitting from above tends to make them all hit if they do, makes Dreadnought a good map to run it. This is precisely why the Aphex Griffin is gonna be a blast to have on that map eh!?! Haha, only said Aphex (Vortex Aphid) cuz I listen to Aphex Twin. |
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Post by moody on Dec 6, 2017 18:12:31 GMT -5
Which, if you take into account that hitting from above tends to make them all hit if they do, makes Dreadnought a good map to run it. This is precisely why the Aphex Griffin is gonna be a blast to have on that map eh!?! Haha, only said Aphex (Vortex Aphid) cuz I listen to Aphex Twin. Good name if it goes through  |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 7, 2017 8:56:48 GMT -5
Which, if you take into account that hitting from above tends to make them all hit if they do, makes Dreadnought a good map to run it. This is precisely why the Aphex Griffin is gonna be a blast to have on that map eh!?! Haha, only said Aphex (Vortex Aphid) cuz I listen to Aphex Twin. That's a name I haven't heard of in a while... he/they (never found out how many were in the "band") will twist a mind up in a Gordian knot! |
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Post by F-A-H-Q on Dec 7, 2017 9:47:10 GMT -5
Two different play styles. Aphids are to use from cover, DB is a pure one hit killer.
I've never had much patience for wearing reds down.
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Post by Blurred Vision on Dec 7, 2017 9:59:02 GMT -5
I prefer the DB Griff, as it's one of three or four legit one-punch knockout threats in the game.
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Post by Scuzzbopper on Dec 7, 2017 11:30:49 GMT -5
Which, if you take into account that hitting from above tends to make them all hit if they do, makes Dreadnought a good map to run it. This is precisely why the Aphex Griffin is gonna be a blast to have on that map eh!?! Haha, only said Aphex (Vortex Aphid) cuz I listen to Aphex Twin. I wasn't impressed by the Vortex on the test server. Needs a bit more damage IMHO to warrant a spot over an Ork in that build. I rotate through the 4 main builds for a Griffin regularly just for variety. I am currently on the plasma after running the Pin/Tulu DB for some time. Before that the Stuka build and before that the Pin/Ork DB. When I start having a bad run of luck with one, I switch to another. |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Dec 7, 2017 11:32:07 GMT -5
This is precisely why the Aphex Griffin is gonna be a blast to have on that map eh!?! Haha, only said Aphex (Vortex Aphid) cuz I listen to Aphex Twin. That's a name I haven't heard of in a while... he/they (never found out how many were in the "band") will twist a mind up in a Gordian knot! Haha, yep. It’s just one guy |
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Dec 7, 2017 12:07:48 GMT -5
This is precisely why the Aphex Griffin is gonna be a blast to have on that map eh!?! Haha, only said Aphex (Vortex Aphid) cuz I listen to Aphex Twin. I wasn't impressed by the Vortex on the test server. Needs a bit more damage IMHO to warrant a spot over an Ork in that build. I rotate through the 4 main builds for a Griffin regularly just for variety. I am currently on the plasma after running the Pin/Tulu DB for some time. Before that the Stuka build and before that the Pin/Ork DB. When I start having a bad run of luck with one, I switch to another. I agree the Vortex needs a bit more of a bite, but it is nevertheless a fun build. I’m mostly with F-A-H-Q, but sometimes I’m in the mood to play a bit more relaxed than intense brawling. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 7, 2017 12:23:09 GMT -5
Well, it's not like you can go by the Test Server to tell how bad or good something will be upon release... AHEM shocktrain AHEM.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 7, 2017 12:24:13 GMT -5
But, again... DB is all risk, all reward. Vortex/Aphid is less risk for pretty damn good reward... if played well.
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Post by AzureAura on Dec 7, 2017 12:27:59 GMT -5
I still would use a Leo instead.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 7, 2017 12:37:07 GMT -5
I still would use a Leo instead. The Aphex Griff would be more fun for me... and damned useful on PP, DC, Moon, and Dreadnought. I love Aphid Pattons and Jesses though, and that plays into it. I would rather run either than a Leo with Aphids... Griff would feel more like those Aphid boats than the Leo to me. Nothing wrong with it... however... as with an Ancile it's pretty damned useful. |
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Post by AzureAura on Dec 8, 2017 9:10:19 GMT -5
I still would use a Leo instead. The Aphex Griff would be more fun for me... and damned useful on PP, DC, Moon, and Dreadnought. I love Aphid Pattons and Jesses though, and that plays into it. I would rather run either than a Leo with Aphids... Griff would feel more like those Aphid boats than the Leo to me. Nothing wrong with it... however... as with an Ancile it's pretty damned useful. You mean those pothead things? With the setup I have, those things are bulky and usually survive my pinata volley. I admit they are useful but once they fire all aphids, they're pretty defenseless. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Dec 8, 2017 9:41:28 GMT -5
The Aphex Griff would be more fun for me... and damned useful on PP, DC, Moon, and Dreadnought. I love Aphid Pattons and Jesses though, and that plays into it. I would rather run either than a Leo with Aphids... Griff would feel more like those Aphid boats than the Leo to me. Nothing wrong with it... however... as with an Ancile it's pretty damned useful. You mean those pothead things? With the setup I have, those things are bulky and usually survive my pinata volley. I admit they are useful but once they fire all aphids, they're pretty defenseless. Ahhh well it sounded like you meant that you liked the Leo for Aphids... we weren't even talking about Pinatas! LOL. But yeah, Aphid Leos have to play a very careful game... with their HP it is kind of a waste... which is another reason why I like Patton or Jesse. Leo has more use as a Tempest/Molot bot or a short ranged Pinata, Mag, or Punisher bot... agreed there. |
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Post by RightOn on Dec 8, 2017 12:49:59 GMT -5
I like Taran and Aphid. You have better DPM and you can throw people off with Aphids. You don't have as much alpha strike power though.
Oh, and bullet hose (punisher) is ahem, pretty punishing. It's probably the best Griffin build currently.
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Post by snk on Dec 9, 2017 9:37:09 GMT -5
They both viable, but play very differently. DB Griffin is LOS red then unload your weapons, use jump to retreat or dodge damage and still unloading. StUKa Griffin play more like Aphid Gepard, keeps hitting red behind anything or stay out of LOS, only use Orkan when you have to or finish off a damaged red bot. DB is more offensive, StUKa is more defensive. Just remind you, Aphids has 10 second reload time, while Piñata got smart reload.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Dec 9, 2017 12:08:01 GMT -5
Not a big fan of aphids with orkans. I mean, it's fun, and it can be effective, depending, but when I strap 2 orkans on a griffin, I do it to make things die. Fast. And a db is far more deadly in this regard. Both are fine tho. Try it out, you may like it. I ran 2 stukas for a long time.
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