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Post by tharsis on Nov 27, 2017 17:23:50 GMT -5
Lets face it this game has been thrown off the limbo as far as balance goes after the release of the Korean bots. There have been many suggestions from the community to either ban the dash bots or make them available to everyone. The problem with making them accessable to everyone is that it would make every single bot (besides the griffin, ancelot, fury and mabey carnage) obsolete. The problem with banning them is that pix is greedy and wont do it because pulling 300$ from a sucker who is willing to pay them to win is just too good of an offer for them to pass. So the question is what could be done to balance the already existing problem. Well I noticed that the lance has a special rush ability and it gave me the idea that adding a slightly more powerful rush to the gallahad could allow the plasmahad to have a way to counter the haiechi or kumhio. I'm not saying give the gallahad a dash ability, I'm saying give it one of those turbo rush abilities like the lance has. The combination of the physical shield, rush ability and plasma could allow the gallahad to become a meaningfull way of countering a dash bot (unless it has shock trains). I look at the gallahad every day and I just feel like it wants to rush. What do u guys think about this. Yes yes fix the mm would be the better way to go but we all know pix dosent care about fixing the mm. Oh and even with the rush abilities the dashes would still have the upper hand so the whales would continue to spend on them so I doubt it would cause much harm to pix and their stash of benjamins. |
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Post by TheWWRNerdGuy on Nov 27, 2017 17:43:20 GMT -5
Galahads are much cheaper than Kbots. If the Galahad had that ability, the game would be even less balanced.
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Post by Nexsan on Nov 27, 2017 17:49:38 GMT -5
First off, Pix can't get rid of the Dash bots for the exact reason you described; people payed for them. Whether the community likes it or not, they are here to stay. Dash bots are unbalanced. The solution would be to balance them, not create a new mechanic for a single robot i.e. Galahad. This includes removing the Dash's ability to store two dashes, lowering the ability recharge rate, among other things (my opinion). Yes, the Galahad and Gareth aren't as noteworthy as they were before the new rocket mechanics were implemented to things like Pinatas, Tulumbas, and Pins were introduced. They need some sort of hp buff. The pace of the game needs to slow down. Making the Galahad even faster with a similar rush ability to that of the Lancelot will not help in that regard. Attention should be focused adjusting the Dash bots.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Nov 27, 2017 17:59:18 GMT -5
When the Galahad first came out it was faster then it is now with the shield to the side. I mean it was way fast.. And they nerfed it because too many people complained. K-Bots are OP on purpose to give them validity to there price. Pix isnt going to nerf them to make those who dont have them feel better about it. That is just not reality from a business stand point.
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Post by tharsis on Nov 27, 2017 18:17:31 GMT -5
When the Galahad first came out it was faster then it is now with the shield to the side. I mean it was way fast.. And they nerfed it because too many people complained. K-Bots are OP on purpose to give them validity to there price. Pix isnt going to nerf them to make those who dont have them feel better about it. That is just not reality from a business stand point. agreed. If I was one of those whales I wouldn't spend on a dash bot If it didn't have the OP ability of a double dash. Atleast I wouldn't spend 300 on them. And we all know at this point that pixonic has shown its greedy colors so nerfing the dashbots to a point where they are balanced would only happen if pix was developing an even more powerfull one. (lets just hope that they don't make one that can teleport or go supper sayjin. but guitar guy u have a point. It would make no sense business wise. That's why I mentioned a rush ability for a galahad. It would give us atleast a paintball gun to face our opponents with mini guns instead of facing them with slingshots. basically we would atleast have some form of defense because currently, unless we are sporting zeuses on fast bots like carnage or furys or plasma on griffins, we are pretty much fighting our enemy with sling shots. |
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Post by T34 on Nov 27, 2017 18:21:19 GMT -5
I loved that bot. It was a super star. But he got old and relatively slow. In an ork haechi or bulgie when facing a galahad its just a matter of paying attention when to lift the finger off the red button in order to save amo. Saddens me to see how easily those former superstars go down. Really does.
But I suppose this outcome is related to the evolution of the game and to monetisation. There is no turning back for the time being. maybe before the next OP bot releases Pix will give them a big buff. For the time being they are destined to remain in obscurity and sip early grey tea with the other brit bots and the rhino while reminiscing about their glory days.
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Post by T34 on Nov 27, 2017 18:27:57 GMT -5
When the Galahad first came out it was faster then it is now with the shield to the side. I mean it was way fast.. And they nerfed it because too many people complained. K-Bots are OP on purpose to give them validity to there price. Pix isnt going to nerf them to make those who dont have them feel better about it. That is just not reality from a business stand point. agreed. If I was one of those whales I wouldn't spend on a dash bot If it didn't have the OP ability of a double dash. Atleast I wouldn't spend 300 on them. And we all know at this point that pixonic has shown its greedy colors so nerfing the dashbots to a point where they are balanced would only happen if pix was developing an even more powerfull one. (lets just hope that they don't make one that can teleport or go supper sayjin. but guitar guy u have a point. It would make no sense business wise. That's why I mentioned a rush ability for a galahad. It would give us atleast a paintball gun to face our opponents with mini guns instead of facing them with slingshots. basically we would atleast have some form of defense because currently, unless we are sporting zeuses on fast bots like carnage or furys or plasma on griffins, we are pretty much fighting our enemy with sling shots. Pix will nerf the dash bots into near balance (directly or indirectly) before the next major OP bot release. Prior to the nerfing they will be sold at huge discount levels and will be easily obtainable via the gambling mechanisms. |
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Post by cmdrperalta on Nov 27, 2017 18:32:06 GMT -5
Dash bots were introduced to force ppl to upgrade. They are perfectly balanced for what they were created to do.
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Post by hi5 on Nov 27, 2017 18:36:31 GMT -5
It’s been said to death by many better than me, but worth repeating as often as possible: bring back the ability to outrun/backpedal rockets and Gala/fast bots become viable again.
Might even bring balance to the force here in War Robots as an indirect nerf to Ork Haechi. And if all physical shields blocked shocktrain, you’ve got yourself a stew!
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Post by tharsis on Nov 27, 2017 18:42:08 GMT -5
First off, Pix can't get rid of the Dash bots for the exact reason you described; people payed for them. Whether the community likes it or not, they are here to stay. Dash bots are unbalanced. The solution would be to balance them, not create a new mechanic for a single robot i.e. Galahad. This includes removing the Dash's ability to store two dashes, lowering the ability recharge rate, among other things (my opinion). Yes, the Galahad and Gareth aren't as noteworthy as they were before the new rocket mechanics were implemented to things like Pinatas, Tulumbas, and Pins were introduced. They need some sort of hp buff. The pace of the game needs to slow down. Making the Galahad even faster with a similar rush ability to that of the Lancelot will not help in that regard. Attention should be focused adjusting the Dash bots. Just like guitar guy said. It makes no business sense to nerf the Korean bots. It makes sense to us because we are the player base who are in this for the joy playing a video game. However on the other side of the table is a company that is now run by a bigger company that only cares about money and has no love for the game. Idealy under the hypothetical circumstances that we lived in a parallel universe where pixonic cares about its player base, I would definetly agree with u that just balancing the Korean bots by limiting their dashes or shield regeneration abilites would be the way to go. But since we don't live there we have to look for other ways to make balancing sound attractive to pixonic. Think about it if u could lessen the hate coming from the player base without completely turning off the whales that fund your company as a CEO would u do it? Belive me the hate that is being projected on their facbook page, twitter page and wiki forums is really turning off newer players. And if u argue that there are tones of players that don't read wiki forums or go on fb then that nice fat ancelot or haiechi frying your noob [use ur imagination] in bronze should be enough to turn them off. Like I said in my above response to guitar man. What u are saying about balancing the dash and regeneration abilities, will only happen when pixonic developes something more OP and basically starts to put those dashes on clearance. |
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Post by tharsis on Nov 27, 2017 18:53:36 GMT -5
I loved that bot. It was a super star. But he got old and relatively slow. In an ork haechi or bulgie when facing a galahad its just a matter of paying attention when to lift the finger off the red button in order to save amo. Saddens me to see how easily those former superstars go down. Really does. But I suppose this outcome is related to the evolution of the game and to monetisation. There is no turning back for the time being. maybe before the next OP bot releases Pix will give them a big buff. For the time being they are destined to remain in obscurity and sip early grey tea with the other brit bots and the rhino while reminiscing about their glory days. Don't even get me started, my rhino is in that situation right now and if I buy a gallahad it will only be because I like the bot, and not because I intend to take it to top tier. I faced a tanker yesterday from a well known tanking clan and I faced his 12/12 plasma gallahad with a base leo with base thunder and pinatas. Offcoarse he melted my leo but not without him losing 80% of its HP. And then offcoarse I pulled out the last stand lance and blew him away only to get killed once again by his orkan haiechi after. anyways yes that's exacaly what will happen. better than my raijin though (favorit bot in the game) atleast the brits and rhino had their days to shine. The raijin on the other hand never did unless it was in high bronze-mid silver. With pixonics buffs to the raijin I had hope that they would make it a viable bot by increasing its speed (because that's what kills a rajin) but instead they increased the speed on the zenits and now my raijin cant even live in silver anymore. so its either camper natashas or orkan griffins. So I retired my raijin |
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Post by tharsis on Nov 27, 2017 18:57:35 GMT -5
It’s been said to death by many better than me, but worth repeating as often as possible: bring back the ability to outrun/backpedal rockets and Gala/fast bots become viable again. Might even bring balance to the force here in War Robots as an indirect nerf to Ork Haechi. And if all physical shields blocked shocktrain, you’ve got yourself a stew! oh yeah I remember those days. Those were the days where I really wanted a galahad and hated when I had to face one with any of my bots. but had to pull myself back from it then since I only had 3 slots. now I have 5 and well I'm fu%*ed |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Nov 27, 2017 19:02:05 GMT -5
How exactly is giving a rush ability to a bot that's SUPER vulnerable to splash give it the magical ability to counter a bot that sports 3 orkans?
Galahdas aren't out of the meta because they aren;t fasst enough, they are out because they die to the most commonly used gold weapon in the game. And they die horribly to it. Same goes for the rhino. It sucks just as bad because it can't evade the things it is most vulnerable to, just like the galahad.
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Post by tharsis on Nov 27, 2017 19:34:00 GMT -5
How exactly is giving a rush ability to a bot that's SUPER vulnerable to splash give it the magical ability to counter a bot that sports 3 orkans? Galahdas aren't out of the meta because they aren;t fasst enough, they are out because they die to the most commonly used gold weapon in the game. And they die horribly to it. Same goes for the rhino. It sucks just as bad because it can't evade the things it is most vulnerable to, just like the galahad. Ur right the gallahads main problem is that its squishy not speed. However any player that is unfortunate to battle dashes on a regular basis knows that the nature of these bots (except mabey bulgasari) is to hit and run, or fight by dashing from cover to cover. A plasmahad with a rush ability not only has a better survival chance when it meets the orkan ones but it also has the extra speed to help it get to a strategic position to fire at the dash while its reloading. shure the haiechi can dash away but it makes it a lot harder to escape. And if u get an angle u can pound it with plasma. Offcoarse u wouldn't go one on one with it u would still have to utilize team work to bring it down but it becomes easier with the extra speed.
Now the gallahad is fast. But I own a kumhio ( which I got by completing the Halloween tasks) and I can dash circles around a gallahad even a maxed out one. however my weakness with the the dash is when my teammates get killed around me and I get surrounded or stuck in a place with no cover. even if I can keep good dps with tarans the bot is pretty much toast (level 10 kumhio) I can probably escape once but at the cost of 70-80% of my HP. so imagin if a relatively easy to get gold bot aquires more speed and has plasma that can bypass an ancil. The point is this has a better chance of getting considered as a balance act by pix before doing what they really should be doing which is fixing the MM and balancing the dash and shield of the robot(s). Which wouldn't make sence to nerf the dashes completely because they want people to spend 300 on them. so I thought a different/compromising approach had a better chance to be considered by pix.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Nov 27, 2017 19:41:34 GMT -5
Rush isn't going to save a galahad. Just ask any fossilized lance that doesn't have an ancile. And to be clear, anciles are almost worthless on a lance vs 3 orkans. And galahads can't have anciles.
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Post by tharsis on Nov 27, 2017 21:02:25 GMT -5
Rush isn't going to save a galahad. Just ask any fossilized lance that doesn't have an ancile. And to be clear, anciles are almost worthless on a lance vs 3 orkans. And galahads can't have anciles. ur missing the point. The point is to have an extra claw to fight with. Something that could somewhat be considered by pixonic since its obvious that they don't want to nerf the Korean bots or fix match maker which would be the fixes to this problem. But I do comprehend that in champion league it wouldn't make a difference since its infested with dash bots. However the majority of the player base is not in champion league. The majority of the player base is in bronze silver and gold. with moderate amounts from diamond until u hit master and then ur talking about the 10% of the player base. my suggestion was aimed at the majority unfortunately for those of u in higher tiers like expert ,champion and master, well u will just have to keep spamming them with plasma griffins or zeus furys. In lower tiers where there is less of them it can allow you're plasmahads to get into position where they can actually hit it. In lower tiers people have issues just tying to land a shot since they move so fast and most people are not used to them. Anyways its just a suggestion. I comprehend why it sound ridiculous to someone playing in champion league. lol yes the fossilized lances I learned that real fast. sadly the future dosent look bright for the gallahad. But I would much rather have a rush ability like that than have snalil pace that the gallahad currently has (its still fast but its speed dosent accommodate for its squishiness) |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Nov 27, 2017 21:07:50 GMT -5
I'm not missing a thing.
If you want to give the galahad a speed buff, that's one thing. But to do it under the auspices that it would make it competitive, it's not a thing.
Galahads are no longer competitive. They die horribly to orkans, which dash bots can carry 3 of. So giving the galahad a rush under the premise that it would be some sort of counter to dashes is just foolishness. They'll still get vaporized, on the spot.
It wouldn't do a thing to make them more competitive, but it certainly would make them more fun.
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Post by kingdavid1 on Nov 27, 2017 21:14:10 GMT -5
Something just that popped in my head that would help is a new game mode. Hear me out. What if there was a mode where you chose your own map you played in? Yeah yeah I know people would become all snipers or brawlers but I'm sure pix could add a drawing mechanism to it where you have to pick a certain group of bots you'd have ready for that mode. Just a thought but I would love being able to chose my map and take in my batch of bots randomly.
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Post by Gdu4ever on Nov 27, 2017 21:20:44 GMT -5
Just reduce the double dash to one dash, done.
Simple, direct, effective, reasonable.
but not gonna happen - expectable.
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Post by tharsis on Nov 27, 2017 21:25:35 GMT -5
I'm not missing a thing. If you want to give the galahad a speed buff, that's one thing. But to do it under the auspices that it would make it competitive, it's not a thing. Galahads are no longer competitive. They die horribly to orkans, which dash bots can carry 3 of. So giving the galahad a rush under the premise that it would be some sort of counter to dashes is just foolishness. They'll still get vaporized, on the spot. It wouldn't do a thing to make them more competitive, but it certainly would make them more fun. yeah title is off but not all dashes carry orkans. some carry plasma. and like I said u are not going one on one with it and u certainly are not rushing it. orkans take a long time to reload after firing a full volley which gives ample time to fire. once they rush away to their corner use ruse ability and stay on their 「bum-bum」 and get as many shots as u can while its trapped by your teammates. Unfortunatly there is one flaw to this plan that I didn't think about and that's that people in lower tiers don't utilize teamwork. so yeah scratch this from the list of balancing. But u know what ur right it would make them a hell of a lot more fun to play with. Pix should implement it anyways I really hope the gallahad dosent die completely. it can barley survive in silver as it is. I don't know how people play them in higher tiers. I certainly wouldn't. |
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Post by Lynx on Nov 27, 2017 22:00:54 GMT -5
I'm not missing a thing. If you want to give the galahad a speed buff, that's one thing. But to do it under the auspices that it would make it competitive, it's not a thing. Galahads are no longer competitive. They die horribly to orkans, which dash bots can carry 3 of. So giving the galahad a rush under the premise that it would be some sort of counter to dashes is just foolishness. They'll still get vaporized, on the spot. It wouldn't do a thing to make them more competitive, but it certainly would make them more fun. yeah title is off but not all dashes carry orkans. some carry plasma. and like I said u are not going one on one with it and u certainly are not rushing it. orkans take a long time to reload after firing a full volley which gives ample time to fire. once they rush away to their corner use ruse ability and stay on their ?bum-bum? and get as many shots as u can while its trapped by your teammates. Unfortunatly there is one flaw to this plan that I didn't think about and that's that people in lower tiers don't utilize teamwork. so yeah scratch this from the list of balancing. But u know what ur right it would make them a hell of a lot more fun to play with. Pix should implement it anyways I really hope the gallahad dosent die completely. it can barley survive in silver as it is. I don't know how people play them in higher tiers. I certainly wouldn't. Well,my Galahad does pretty good in expert with punishers.The trick is to strip the ancile from afar after which Haechis decide not to bother you.The only threat to that build is RDBs and tridents |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 27, 2017 22:03:11 GMT -5
Out of box, If they cant nerf the Kbots and the old bots need a bit of a boost to be relevant, why doesnt Pixo just offer a V2 upgrade only for legacy bots. Upgrades can be paid for in wsp points and are proprietary to the particular bot based on balance and customer feedback. They can also slow down the game by reintroducing backpedalling (faster for lights slower for heavy bots). Upgrades can be in the form of what OP was mentioning. Different bots get different augmentations and balance could be reintroduced this way. That or point based hangars.
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Post by tharsis on Nov 27, 2017 23:24:57 GMT -5
Something just that popped in my head that would help is a new game mode. Hear me out. What if there was a mode where you chose your own map you played in? Yeah yeah I know people would become all snipers or brawlers but I'm sure pix could add a drawing mechanism to it where you have to pick a certain group of bots you'd have ready for that mode. Just a thought but I would love being able to chose my map and take in my batch of bots randomly. That's actually a great idea however phoenix has already reached out to pixonic and sujested this and they told him that they didn't want to give the player the choice of maps because they didn't want people to be fully optimized for a map. here is a link to the video 4:25-5:50 is where he talks about that and explains why. however if u haven't watched the full video I recommend u do.
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Post by tharsis on Nov 27, 2017 23:27:44 GMT -5
Just reduce the double dash to one dash, done. Simple, direct, effective, reasonable. but not gonna happen - expectable. reducing the dash would not allow the seal clubbing haiechis to run away from those scary deserters that could scratch their paint job if they somehow manage to get the shield down. hense the pay to win whales would not buy them |
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Post by tharsis on Nov 27, 2017 23:36:07 GMT -5
Out of box, If they cant nerf the Kbots and the old bots need a bit of a boost to be relevant, why doesnt Pixo just offer a V2 upgrade only for legacy bots. Upgrades can be paid for in wsp points and are proprietary to the particular bot based on balance and customer feedback. They can also slow down the game by reintroducing backpedalling (faster for lights slower for heavy bots). Upgrades can be in the form of what OP was mentioning. Different bots get different augmentations and balance could be reintroduced this way. That or point based hangars. that's a great idea and one I have never heard but thought of before. The only issue with that is that pix would not want us to have upgrades that could counter any OP bots they release. Imagin if whales had to actually use skill to win fights against seals. They wouldn't pay the 300$+ it takes to get the bot. But now we are getting somewhere. U know sometimes I wonder if somone up there is really trying to bring down this game and squeeze it to the max for money b4 it goes out. But yet that dosent make sense if they are starting their war robots virtual reality venture. hmm sorry off topic but yes I like ur idea |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 28, 2017 0:43:51 GMT -5
Out of box, If they cant nerf the Kbots and the old bots need a bit of a boost to be relevant, why doesnt Pixo just offer a V2 upgrade only for legacy bots. Upgrades can be paid for in wsp points and are proprietary to the particular bot based on balance and customer feedback. They can also slow down the game by reintroducing backpedalling (faster for lights slower for heavy bots). Upgrades can be in the form of what OP was mentioning. Different bots get different augmentations and balance could be reintroduced this way. That or point based hangars. that's a great idea and one I have never heard but thought of before. The only issue with that is that pix would not want us to have upgrades that could counter any OP bots they release. Imagin if whales had to actually use skill to win fights against seals. They wouldn't pay the 300$+ it takes to get the bot. But now we are getting somewhere. U know sometimes I wonder if somone up there is really trying to bring down this game and squeeze it to the max for money b4 it goes out. But yet that dosent make sense if they are starting their war robots virtual reality venture. hmm sorry off topic but yes I like ur idea Thanks! It wouldnt actually be a direct kbot counter but it does address concerns on both sides. Pixo can probably even limit it to top voted mechs per weight class. It would just allow legacy mechs to be more competitive against the field and maybe even add a new dimention to the play. I just think that the power gap between legacy and neo mechs should be narrowed to a point where skill can once again be more crucial to game outcome. |
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Post by tharsis on Nov 28, 2017 1:39:54 GMT -5
that's a great idea and one I have never heard but thought of before. The only issue with that is that pix would not want us to have upgrades that could counter any OP bots they release. Imagin if whales had to actually use skill to win fights against seals. They wouldn't pay the 300$+ it takes to get the bot. But now we are getting somewhere. U know sometimes I wonder if somone up there is really trying to bring down this game and squeeze it to the max for money b4 it goes out. But yet that dosent make sense if they are starting their war robots virtual reality venture. hmm sorry off topic but yes I like ur idea Thanks! It wouldnt actually be a direct kbot counter but it does address concerns on both sides. Pixo can probably even limit it to top voted mechs per weight class. It would just allow legacy mechs to be more competitive against the field and maybe even add a new dimention to the play. I just think that the power gap between legacy and neo mechs should be narrowed to a point where skill can once again be more crucial to game outcome. tell me about it my girlfriend just upgraded her legacy mechs (fujin and patton) a little too much. And although a taran fujin and a mag patton are a force to be reckoned with they are no match for 12/12 hangers with taran/ork lancelots, shocktrain Korean bots and zeus furys. she is pretty damn good and gets top most of the time but now she barley gets 3rd place. And no she is not in LQ since all the bots she playes are high silver to low gold and gold and keys are being rewarded so its not LQ. Omg those shock trains are unreal how does a game developer allow such a weapon to enter this game in the first place, and worse allow whales to use them against pattons. no one stands a chance against those even high ranked mechs fear them. Is someone going on an all out "I hate humanity" temper tantrum up in the ranks of pixonic management? I just wonder if the pixonic employees are fearing for their jobs now that there is an imminent player exodus on its way when BOT comes out. |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 28, 2017 1:47:56 GMT -5
Stay at the lower leagues. Its easily more fun. Just keep weapons at around lv6. And you should come down naturally. I run mid and light bots exclusively. Usually at lv7 but up to lv9 when i need the speed.
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Post by tharsis on Nov 28, 2017 2:01:37 GMT -5
Stay at the lower leagues. Its easily more fun. Just keep weapons at around lv6. And you should come down naturally. I run mid and light bots exclusively. Usually at lv7 but up to lv9 when i need the speed. by what ur saying it sounds like u are playing on IOS. she playes on IOS as well(which is easier than android) but honestly she is in low silver and unfortunately her mechs weapons are at level 9 so yeah. but I did warn her. But she is stuburn and now she is paying for it. yes low leagues are more fun. I love the variety but slowly the Korean bots are making their way down there. They are starting to become a more common sight in high silver instead of an occasional sight. |
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Post by Refuse2GrowUp on Nov 28, 2017 2:44:00 GMT -5
Lets face it this game has been thrown off the limbo as far as balance goes after the release of the Korean bots. There have been many suggestions from the community to either ban the dash bots or make them available to everyone. The problem with making them accessable to everyone is that it would make every single bot (besides the griffin, ancelot, fury and mabey carnage) obsolete. The problem with banning them is that pix is greedy and wont do it because pulling 300$ from a sucker who is willing to pay them to win is just too good of an offer for them to pass. So the question is what could be done to balance the already existing problem. Well I noticed that the lance has a special rush ability and it gave me the idea that adding a slightly more powerful rush to the gallahad could allow the plasmahad to have a way to counter the haiechi or kumhio. I'm not saying give the gallahad a dash ability, I'm saying give it one of those turbo rush abilities like the lance has. The combination of the physical shield, rush ability and plasma could allow the gallahad to become a meaningfull way of countering a dash bot (unless it has shock trains). I look at the gallahad every day and I just feel like it wants to rush. What do u guys think about this. Yes yes fix the mm would be the better way to go but we all know pix dosent care about fixing the mm. Oh and even with the rush abilities the dashes would still have the upper hand so the whales would continue to spend on them so I doubt it would cause much harm to pix and their stash of benjamins. Sorry I'm not taking the time to read others replies (will do so later), so forgive me if I am echoing others thoughts. I do not think buffing one bot will in anyway provide a more balanced game. The only way to obtain balance is to nerf OP bots or buff numerous bots to make them more competitive with OP bots. Suggesting to buff only a single bot might make it a more balanced game for you, but that is only because of a bias and personal play style. I fully expect the dash bots, or any new, premium content, to be slightly more powerful that existing equipment. But the key word there is slightly. Maybe a 10-15% advantage, or power creep, over existing game content. This provides a slight edge to indice sales, but doesn't fullymake it P2W, and keeps the emphasis on skill - tho admittedly if two equally skilled players go head-to-head and one has newer gear, that player would win, but such is life. Pix made the new bots and weapons significantly stronger than existing bots/weapons and that is what most players have issue with. Plus the shocktrain was implemented in a way that completely ruins team play. Simply, nerf the dash bots, shock train, and inferno (ninja nerfed in 3.4?) or buff several preexisting bots to make them more competitive with new stuff (and thus mitigate reasons for players to request refunds due to nerfs). |
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