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Post by joshfishyu on Nov 26, 2017 9:15:55 GMT -5
I am too weak, couldn't resist the temptation of getting my first dash bot and bought a Bulgasari...
After trying a few battles against full clan squads with lots of Lancelots ,dash bots, even Inquisitor with Ember, all I can say is dash bots are really firetruck op.
I know how it's feel like when you use Griffins or Rogatka against those abominations, but only when you pilot one yourself, you will really understand how firetruck op it is! I can dodge orkans with grace and even single-handed defeated 3 Lancelots in Yamantau, and my Bulgasari is only lv.8! It's insane and really need serious some balance imo... although I just bought one myself...
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Post by shivaswrath on Nov 26, 2017 9:26:06 GMT -5
So annoying...
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 26, 2017 9:51:31 GMT -5
SO its 100 USD..any takers? Remember that in 3.1 you used to get a Dash (on average), maybe 10k gold and a whole bunch of gold items for $100 (or 13k BM keys). I'd still say it's crazy to spend that kind of money on a game where you know that (a) the stuff will be OP for a few months at most until some even more OP stuff comes (or it's nerfed), and (b) you still can't compete with the whales after spending that ridiculous kind of money because you won't get Mk2 Shocktrain builds.
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Post by amidf on Nov 26, 2017 10:03:20 GMT -5
Does anyone remember the supposed boycott of Pixonic?
Expecting people to band together in pursuit of a common goal in a game filled with damage [nice ladies], tankers, and campers was pretty naïve.
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Post by todd74 on Nov 26, 2017 10:09:14 GMT -5
Yep, also got an offer for inquisitor and ember for the same price. To be honest I will probably get a Haechi, I’ve been sitting on some iTunes vouchers kind of waiting for this to pop up. I’ll go for a run first and think about my priorities in life, what’s important what’s not, etc etc. By the time I get back from the run the wife will have rolled out of bed, started some mindless argument with one of the kids about Rice Krispies on the sofa, or something like that. (No doubt, I will certainly have done something to have caused the crisis). Then after listening to the madness for half an hour I will probably just buy an imaginary robot, at least my six year will be supportive of my decision, he likes robots and has a very loose grasp of the real value of money. Dude ... Seriously are you looking into my window and typing about my life? Is this that Arnold Sawrzeneggger movie when he has a twin cyborg clone..... funny crap man made my Day
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Post by weaksauce on Nov 26, 2017 10:29:51 GMT -5
I wonder how the whales who spent $300+ on their dash bots are feeling Like frunobulax said, It probably sucks for some. But most of the whales got there dash bots before the components. In the first 2 weeks of keys and chests it was easy. My first $99 worth of keys got me 3 dash bots. My second $99 got me 2 more. And my 3rd $99 got me 3. The 4th and final $99 got me 2 more. Ended up with 3 Kumiho, 3 Haechi, 4 bulg. $99 for one bot, lmao nope. $400 for 50+ bots (10 dash bots) and 100+ weapons, tons of gold and silver....yeahhhhhhh. After the whales got to get everything they wanted on the cheap, they started the components system to milk everyone else for the long run.
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Post by snk on Nov 26, 2017 10:49:02 GMT -5
Couple of these bots = PS4 + VR + few games........ I will get the PS4. Especially PS4 doesn’t need more $$$ for MKII
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Post by joshfishyu on Nov 26, 2017 11:01:25 GMT -5
Couple of these bots = PS4 + VR + few games........ I will get the PS4. Especially PS4 doesn’t need more $$$ for MKII Steam is on sale now... I just traded my chance to get GTA5, Nier, and a couple of indie games I always want to play for a Bulgasari... I guess I have to wait for winter sales now...
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Post by hyderier on Nov 26, 2017 11:13:42 GMT -5
Couple of these bots = PS4 + VR + few games........ I will get the PS4. Especially PS4 doesn’t need more $$$ for MKII Steam is on sale now... I just traded my chance to get GTA5, Nier, and a couple of indie games I always want to play for a Bulgasari... I guess I have to wait for winter sales now... I just shelved my Android War Robots (FBGR likely to follow at start of next event) and got €60 worth of old goodies from Steam. When I think what I would hsve gotten for that money in War Robots (nothing I could use in my hangar...), I can't but smile sadly at the lost potential of War Robots.
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Post by deputy666 on Nov 26, 2017 11:19:25 GMT -5
I got the promotion this morning. VERY tempted. No way I will ever get one otherwise. This is the only forum I am on where the members are so worried about "other people's money". Who cares if some guy buys ALL the stuff from the Black Friday sales? It's not YOUR money. You didn't earn it. So much whine on here that the forum should provide free cheese to go with it.
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Post by weaksauce on Nov 26, 2017 11:26:43 GMT -5
PS5 is not far away, expected to come in at $500 or less in a year or so 2018-19ish depending on what you read. Might be better to save up for that and not buying a outdated PS4 that came out half a decade ago.
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Post by mallexx222 on Nov 26, 2017 12:03:03 GMT -5
Yep, also got an offer for inquisitor and ember for the same price. To be honest I will probably get a Haechi, I’ve been sitting on some iTunes vouchers kind of waiting for this to pop up. I’ll go for a run first and think about my priorities in life, what’s important what’s not, etc etc. By the time I get back from the run the wife will have rolled out of bed, started some mindless argument with one of the kids about Rice Krispies on the sofa, or something like that. (No doubt, I will certainly have done something to have caused the crisis). Then after listening to the madness for half an hour I will probably just buy an imaginary robot, at least my six year will be supportive of my decision, he likes robots and has a very loose grasp of the real value of money. Well its not like you can anything (of use?) for the family since you have the vouchers already..Get that Haechi buddy, Imaginary bots are subservient. ? Actually Pix is giving a Haechi away during the X-Mas event so you could just grind one out. I would get the Bulgasari in that case assuming you got a Kumiho during the Halloween event you would have all three. If you are into collections anyway. Also not that IMHO I think this is Pix last ditch effort to capitalize on the Dash bots before nerfing them back to the player test server recommendations. I predict it will happen after the X-Mas event so I would consider that, of course I could always be wrong, before buying. I think Pix WILL do this to restore game balance before it puts out the next wave of OP mechs and weapons. (The cycle begins a new.) Happy Hunting.
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Post by amoebastudios on Nov 26, 2017 12:18:13 GMT -5
So much whining.
Compared with previous deals on bots and other free-to-play games, $99 is a fair price how OP the dash bots are. And to be honest, they did provide a way to grind these bots out. It'll take 1-2 months of buying components with WSP to get a Haechi. Which is not terrible compared to other freemium games I've played.
It sucks for people that are playing for free (like I am) that we'll soon see a ton of dash bots on the field. Oh wells, at least I've grinded out a Haechi with the WSP and gold I had saved up. The redemption rate for components have also gotten a lot better for me in the past week or so. 1300 WSP for 120 Haechi components, where it used to be like 1700.
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Post by amidf on Nov 26, 2017 12:22:40 GMT -5
I got the promotion this morning. VERY tempted. No way I will ever get one otherwise. This is the only forum I am on where the members are so worried about "other people's money". Who cares if some guy buys ALL the stuff from the Black Friday sales? It's not YOUR money. You didn't earn it. So much whine on here that the forum should provide free cheese to go with it. Maybe you don't care if your neighbor buys a drumset either. Thing is, I am playing against these whales and their triple Mk2 orkan dashnozzles. Their expenditures allow them to club my gold, silver, and wsp bots to pieces. With the current matchmaker pitting me against players with more than 3x my league points, I can't get away from them either (equivalent of wearing earplugs). The good news is it is easier to change games than change houses.
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Post by ΜØØSE on Nov 26, 2017 12:25:49 GMT -5
The last thing I'm going to do is reward Pixonic for their bull「dookie」.
Besides, why would I drop hard warned cash on something that will eventually be nerfed? I already already spent hundreds on Furys, Lancelots and their upgrades when they were the top of the meta. Not getting wallet-「grape」 twice.
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Post by amidf on Nov 26, 2017 12:31:05 GMT -5
So much whining. Compared with previous deals on bots and other free-to-play games, $99 is a fair price how OP the dash bots are. And to be honest, they did provide a way to grind these bots out. It'll take 1-2 months of buying components with WSP to get a Haechi. Which is not terrible compared to other freemium games I've played. It sucks for people that are playing for free (like I am) that we'll soon see a ton of dash bots on the field. Oh wells, at least I've grinded out a Haechi with the WSP and gold I had saved up. The redemption rate for components have also gotten a lot better for me in the past week or so. 1300 WSP for 120 Haechi components, where it used to be like 1700. 1-2 months if you already had a wsp stockpile. 1300 wsp for 120 Haechi components is 108k wsp. That takes 6 months to produce. Sure, you can convert gold to wsp. But unless you have that stockpiled too, it is going to trim only a month off and leave you with nothing. That's to get the first bot. You need a hangar full of the new bots to compete with the whales. But don't worry, the whales are already equipping their second and third hangars to optimize for each class of map. Some people love to trick out their Honda Civics. They can spend their money how the like, but when they're racing up and down the street making atrocious amounts of noise, their expenditures are to the detriment of the people around them.
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Nov 26, 2017 12:34:58 GMT -5
I wonder how the whales who spent $300+ on their dash bots are feeling Like frunobulax said, It probably sucks for some. But most of the whales got there dash bots before the components. In the first 2 weeks of keys and chests it was easy. My first $99 worth of keys got me 3 dash bots. My second $99 got me 2 more. And my 3rd $99 got me 3. The 4th and final $99 got me 2 more. Ended up with 3 Kumiho, 3 Haechi, 4 bulg. $99 for one bot, lmao nope. $400 for 50+ bots (10 dash bots) and 100+ weapons, tons of gold and silver....yeahhhhhhh. After the whales got to get everything they wanted on the cheap, they started the components system to milk everyone else for the long run. You must be quite lucky. The first dash bot game was set up with odds that it would cost on average over $400 per dash bot. The fact that you hit 10 of them for that amount means you probably should've bought a few lottery tickets that week.
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Post by hi5 on Nov 26, 2017 12:47:57 GMT -5
Happy shopping to those who want to buy these offers. For myself, there is nothing Pix can do or offer to get me to spend any money on a game they own. They’re permanently on my naughty list.
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Post by hyderier on Nov 26, 2017 12:48:36 GMT -5
I got the promotion this morning. VERY tempted. No way I will ever get one otherwise. This is the only forum I am on where the members are so worried about "other people's money". Who cares if some guy buys ALL the stuff from the Black Friday sales? It's not YOUR money. You didn't earn it. So much whine on here that the forum should provide free cheese to go with it. Well, the thing is Pay2Win. In P2W games, you have those who pay to win over those who don't. And while some games are like this from the start, War Robots actually used to be a competitive game, where spending money would just speed things up, and you wouldn't have to spend more than you would spend on, say, WoW. Completely reasonable, even generous considering you could do it even paying nothing. And then people started to be ok with paying two console/PC games prices for single item in a mobile game. This combined with these expensive items being game-breakingly OP... The issue I have with other people's money is, they are paying to enable this, paying to ruin a game that used to be good. That's the reason for whining. I mean, I just came to conclusion that Android War Robots has no future for me and uninstalled it yesterday. Soon FBGR will follow, I am sure, thanks to these latest sales, which people are asking here if they should pay. Sure, pay to drive "content" away. Just be prepared to pay more to go full Mk2-12 DIESS hangar, or you will soon be the "content" to those who do.
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 26, 2017 12:49:54 GMT -5
I got the promotion this morning. VERY tempted. No way I will ever get one otherwise. This is the only forum I am on where the members are so worried about "other people's money". Who cares if some guy buys ALL the stuff from the Black Friday sales? It's not YOUR money. You didn't earn it. So much whine on here that the forum should provide free cheese to go with it. The problem is (a) the exploitation of gambling instincts and (b) the fact that the competetive balance of the game is upset by this pay to win approach. Upsetting competetive balance is a business decision. We may not like it, but it's Pixos decision. But the exploitation thing is despicable. I don't give a 「fluffernutter」 about how much people spend who can afford it. I do care about kids that are lured into gambling away money they don't have.
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Post by DarkVagabond on Nov 26, 2017 12:50:12 GMT -5
I considered it briefly, but then I remembered I have principles....
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Post by Domino on Nov 26, 2017 13:01:11 GMT -5
Does anyone remember the supposed boycott of Pixonic? Expecting people to band together in pursuit of a common goal in a game filled with damage [nice ladies], tankers, and campers was pretty naïve. Saw this coming a mile away. First 300 then 100 then 80 then 50. Pix won't be happy until everyone has a Dash so the only way to survive is to have a dash everything else is fodder Keep feeding the hand that slaps you
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Post by amoebastudios on Nov 26, 2017 13:11:21 GMT -5
So much whining. Compared with previous deals on bots and other free-to-play games, $99 is a fair price how OP the dash bots are. And to be honest, they did provide a way to grind these bots out. It'll take 1-2 months of buying components with WSP to get a Haechi. Which is not terrible compared to other freemium games I've played. It sucks for people that are playing for free (like I am) that we'll soon see a ton of dash bots on the field. Oh wells, at least I've grinded out a Haechi with the WSP and gold I had saved up. The redemption rate for components have also gotten a lot better for me in the past week or so. 1300 WSP for 120 Haechi components, where it used to be like 1700. 1-2 months if you already had a wsp stockpile. 1300 wsp for 120 Haechi components is 108k wsp. That takes 6 months to produce. Sure, you can convert gold to wsp. But unless you have that stockpiled too, it is going to trim only a month off and leave you with nothing. That's to get the first bot. You need a hangar full of the new bots to compete with the whales. But don't worry, the whales are already equipping their second and third hangars to optimize for each class of map. Some people love to trick out their Honda Civics. They can spend their money how the like, but when they're racing up and down the street making atrocious amounts of noise, their expenditures are to the detriment of the people around them. Just ran the numbers. If you play a minimal amount you can get 1150 WSP a day using the gold you get from completing daily missions to buy the first few tiers of WSP. That is around 3 months of just doing daily tasks. If you play more than that then the time can be easily cut down to 2 months. Still very doable. And you're also working toward another weapon at the same time. I usually wait until there's a haechi + shocktrain WSP offer for 1300'ish WSP before I buy. So really not that bad. If you're not willing to wait a couple of months to grind something for freemium games then these type of games are really not for you.
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Post by ΒΣRΖΣRKΛ²³ on Nov 26, 2017 14:28:00 GMT -5
$99 is a fair price how OP the dash bots are.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH SMH...NO. cant believe people fall for that. 50 for a lance is too much to begin with. Should open leyes though.. "Things get better", "Pixonic will right the ship" ..."this game is dying..." no. The Whiners will quit, but with every whiner quitting the whining will get quiter..and the next Robot "Dominator" will cost 400$ Shhh is pretty serious for me.. cant even motivate me to tank down to Gold prior to the next event. Right now when i have time to waste i Netflix, search for another War Robots 1 year ago, even read some stuff or do some home office. I mean how boring is that ?
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Post by hi5 on Nov 26, 2017 14:32:22 GMT -5
1-2 months if you already had a wsp stockpile. 1300 wsp for 120 Haechi components is 108k wsp. That takes 6 months to produce. Sure, you can convert gold to wsp. But unless you have that stockpiled too, it is going to trim only a month off and leave you with nothing. That's to get the first bot. You need a hangar full of the new bots to compete with the whales. But don't worry, the whales are already equipping their second and third hangars to optimize for each class of map. Some people love to trick out their Honda Civics. They can spend their money how the like, but when they're racing up and down the street making atrocious amounts of noise, their expenditures are to the detriment of the people around them. Just ran the numbers. If you play a minimal amount you can get 1150 WSP a day using the gold you get from completing daily missions to buy the first few tiers of WSP. That is around 3 months of just doing daily tasks. If you play more than that then the time can be easily cut down to 2 months. Still very doable. And you're also working toward another weapon at the same time. I usually wait until there's a haechi + shocktrain WSP offer for 1300'ish WSP before I buy. So really not that bad. If you're not willing to wait a couple of months to grind something for freemium games then these type of games are really not for you. Valid points. However, the risk is that 3 months may bring a new OP bot and weapon set making your grinding less relevant. And the component structure (unlike Ag, Au, WSP) means you can’t apply your grindings to the new gear. IMO the components are a direct response to players grinding and hoarding flexible currency to get new gear without spending.
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 26, 2017 14:52:44 GMT -5
The inquisitor or the bulgasari? I can't really see the inquisitor a better banger. The Inquisitor can hold an Ember. Pair that with Tarans and you can kill any bot in the game within 7 seconds, except for a Bastioned Raijin. Unless of course that bot has a decent pilot that uses cover. The INQ is a good robot, but I find the Haechi much better. Of course, I have a biased view of that bot, and I think neither are worth $100.
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 26, 2017 14:55:44 GMT -5
Compared with previous deals on bots and other free-to-play games, $99 is a fair price how OP the dash bots are. And to be honest, they did provide a way to grind these bots out. It'll take 1-2 months of buying components with WSP to get a Haechi. Which is not terrible compared to other freemium games I've played. And the really sad thing is that you're right. It has become pay 2 win, and $99 for a Haechi along with $200 to fast-upgrade is probably the cheapest way to buy wins. Of course, that's exactly why I hardly play anymore.
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Post by moses on Nov 26, 2017 15:05:24 GMT -5
1-2 months if you already had a wsp stockpile. 1300 wsp for 120 Haechi components is 108k wsp. That takes 6 months to produce. Sure, you can convert gold to wsp. But unless you have that stockpiled too, it is going to trim only a month off and leave you with nothing. That's to get the first bot. You need a hangar full of the new bots to compete with the whales. But don't worry, the whales are already equipping their second and third hangars to optimize for each class of map. Some people love to trick out their Honda Civics. They can spend their money how the like, but when they're racing up and down the street making atrocious amounts of noise, their expenditures are to the detriment of the people around them. Just ran the numbers. If you play a minimal amount you can get 1150 WSP a day using the gold you get from completing daily missions to buy the first few tiers of WSP. That is around 3 months of just doing daily tasks. If you play more than that then the time can be easily cut down to 2 months. Still very doable. And you're also working toward another weapon at the same time. I usually wait until there's a haechi + shocktrain WSP offer for 1300'ish WSP before I buy. So really not that bad. If you're not willing to wait a couple of months to grind something for freemium games then these type of games are really not for you. Exactly. Also that is 3 months for a haechi, but you are also getting other components at the same time and they are higher components per deal so yu should be closing in on 2 component bots plus a weapon in 3 months. Also there should be a few extra components coming via BM to help a little. I think the prices are crazy, but I have 4000 inquisitor components now so hope that within a month or so I will have got the next 16x 360 inquisitor components to get it over the line.
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Post by mechanized on Nov 26, 2017 15:20:42 GMT -5
If anyone is interested I am selling my lawn mower for $15,000. But just for black friday you can have it for $5k. Bargain. LMAO, that's a steal !!
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 26, 2017 15:30:16 GMT -5
Just ran the numbers. If you play a minimal amount you can get 1150 WSP a day using the gold you get from completing daily missions to buy the first few tiers of WSP. That is around 3 months of just doing daily tasks. If you play more than that then the time can be easily cut down to 2 months. Still very doable. And you're also working toward another weapon at the same time. I usually wait until there's a haechi + shocktrain WSP offer for 1300'ish WSP before I buy. So really not that bad. If you're not willing to wait a couple of months to grind something for freemium games then these type of games are really not for you. It has been established in another thread that the offers dry up once you reach certain component thresholds. I think people with 8k Haechi components reported that they don't get any Haechi deals at all. I have ~5k Haechi components and get only deals that are at best 1:10 components to WSP, usually more like 1:20. So apparently you can't get a Haechi by grinding.
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