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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Nov 20, 2017 14:57:34 GMT -5
? have 13k wsp and everything that i can buy with wsp (carny stalky 4 tarans 4 mags 2 trebs 2 trids) now im going to buy rhino but i have huge question marks in my head first of all is it still viable? Sure it's hard to maneuver but it's not a very good brawler (low HP) and it's very weak against rocket (rdbs and db everywhere) is it better than Griffin? Well it's jump ability is works for only getting in trouble my hanger is level 8 kumiho with level 9 orks All 9 pdb griff All 9 tharnage 7/7/8/8 rdb 5/5/7/8 stuka griff is rhino better platform for orks?
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Post by eco on Nov 20, 2017 15:10:05 GMT -5
Rhino is fast you can run for beacons and relocate quickly or get into a good shooting position. He has the second strongest shield. You can block three tarans for a while. It may take awhile to get used to.
Orkan, taran, tulumbas are good on rhino. I use him with tulumbas
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Post by elcheapo on Nov 20, 2017 15:34:28 GMT -5
You can get a nice shiny rhino in a few days or you can wait a year or two for that dash bot.......
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Post by F-A-H-Q on Nov 20, 2017 16:18:18 GMT -5
The decision to get a rhino or not really should depend on what level you are at. If you are seeing dash bots, or lots of DB's, then a rhino is a waste of silver and WSP. I have no idea what Android gold is like. From what I have heard, its a bit more like iOS expert, which is a real mess of a league as you have kind of everything and most often players that choose range over brawlers. They have also leveled up these range bots to a respectable level. I would apply your WSP to a haechi. Get leveling up a triad of orks or tarans in the mean time.
In the end, if you intend on staying a long time in your current league, I would match what would do best to that level of play. Rhino can be amazing, or can be a decent bag of silver earned fast.
Rhino also has a very steep learning curve.
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Post by inspirace on Nov 20, 2017 16:53:29 GMT -5
? have 13k wsp and everything that i can buy with wsp (carny stalky 4 tarans 4 mags 2 trebs 2 trids) now im going to buy rhino but i have huge question marks in my head first of all is it still viable? Sure it's hard to maneuver but it's not a very good brawler (low HP) and it's very weak against rocket (rdbs and db everywhere) is it better than Griffin? Well it's jump ability is works for only getting in trouble my hanger is level 8 kumiho with level 9 orks All 9 pdb griff All 9 tharnage 7/7/8/8 rdb 5/5/7/8 stuka griff is rhino better platform for orks? I still run a Plasma Rhino on master@ios league. if a Plasma Griff has a place in your hangar, so is Plasma Rhino. sure it cannot jump avoid rockets, but it can go places faster and effective against plasma and other sniper bots, especially Zeus bots that infest DM mode battles atm. Taran, Taran, Taran, Shield (enemy zaps the Shield with Zeus), Taran, Taran, Taran, Shield (enemy zaps shield again), enemy dies ... is the rhythm for a plasma Rhino (of course will not work if the Zeus bot keep calm and wait, but they rarely do when charged, even at expert+ league) here’s an example: ... EDIT: for Orkans I prefer Rog, Doc, and Griff. and don’t ask me about Dashes and Shocktrucks ... not something I can get any time soon,
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Post by Thunderkiss on Nov 20, 2017 17:07:29 GMT -5
Depends on what you want to do. Do you want to kill rhinos in a haechi, or be killed by haechi in your rhino?
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Post by DarkVagabond on Nov 20, 2017 17:26:11 GMT -5
Hi ᒪΛᏟIΛ I have to say if youâre really serious about getting a Haechi then the most effective way is to drop some money on discount gold and use it on lucky spin and try to win the components there by renewing it three times. Be prepared to use between 15,000 and 30,000 Au depending on how lucky/unlucky you are. Thatâll probably mean around 90 - 100 euros/dollars. If youâre not willing to do that (letâs face it, most people arenât) then you would have to earn at least 100k WSP, and thatâs if theyâre offering the good Haechi WSP deals. I had 50k WSP and I targeted deals with the Kumiho and Haechi. I have none left and I only have about 2500 Haechi components. So consider whether you really wanna wait that long. I am in iOS Champion League and I use a Rhino every match, using the DB setup exclusively. I must hasten to add that I am the exception and not the rule. You do not see very many Rhinos at top tier play. For me the Rhino fulfills a particular function in my hangar - late game beacon capper. I also have a Kumiho which i open the match with and it does great. Then I have a Tarancilot, an Orkancilot and a PDB Griffin to choose from. So sometimes I donât even get to play the Rhino if things go according to plan. But I got sick of not being able to control my fate if no one goes for beacons later in the match. So I swapped my DB Griffin for DB Rhino. Griffin is normally better than Rhino, but there are a couple things the Rhino does better. Beacon capping weâve already said. One specialty of the Rhino is what I call the âcan openerâ. This is where you charge into a Tarancilotâs chest and unload your wad under his Ancile. You need to get good at this though, otherwise youâll find it becomes a one way trip. A Rhino can also be the perfect option mid game if you have an enemy Zeus Fury that is slaughtering your whole team from 600m. Hunt that 「cotton headed ninny muggins」 down under the protection of your shield and unleash hell once in range. Your Griffin would be powerless in this situation for example. Is Rhino good? It CAN be if you find youâre not meching out too often, you have excellent situational awareness and ability to read the flow of the match. Otherwise your Stuka Griffin is a better bot for surviving longer, chipping away with Aphids and pop tarting to use the Orkans. Hope that sheds some light on your choice DV
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Post by NerFB on Nov 20, 2017 18:01:06 GMT -5
So true DarkVagabond, I've been in a few with DV, and it's got down to the grim last minutes, and seeing that dark green camouflage Rhino has been a TFFT moment... It needs real guts and practice, but facing a Tarancilot just keep going into the bubble. You can almost see it dawning on them. And the damn thing is way faster than the official stats. Easy kills next year ( if you're lucky) = Heachi Great skill learning curve and laugh out loud moments now = Rhino
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Post by T34 on Nov 20, 2017 18:56:23 GMT -5
Hi ᒪΛᏟIΛ I have to say if you’re really serious about getting a Haechi then the most effective way is to drop some money on discount gold and use it on lucky spin and try to win the components there by renewing it three times. Be prepared to use between 15,000 and 30,000 Au depending on how lucky/unlucky you are. That’ll probably mean around 90 - 100 euros/dollars. If you’re not willing to do that (let’s face it, most people aren’t) then you would have to earn at least 100k WSP, and that’s if they’re offering the good Haechi WSP deals. I had 50k WSP and I targeted deals with the Kumiho and Haechi. I have none left and I only have about 2500 Haechi components. So consider whether you really wanna wait that long. Good points above.
Personally I would not buy WSP or gold bots using valuable and scarce resources unless you are really sure about what you are doing. Just use silver gear for the time being.
If you pick up good Haechi offers the Rhino is worth quarter of a haechi. If you are willing to spend money on the game as DV said above, buy discounted gold. Alternatively start saving gold like crazy. Collect components till you hit that 6600 mark and then spin the Royale to finish it off. Than you avoid the potential of good offers not coming your way. Save 10800 gold. Less if you are prepared to top up your gold after unlucky spins. expect a 2 month cycle.
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Post by DarkVagabond on Nov 21, 2017 0:53:47 GMT -5
? have 13k wsp and everything that i can buy with wsp (carny stalky 4 tarans 4 mags 2 trebs 2 trids) now im going to buy rhino but i have huge question marks in my head first of all is it still viable? Sure it's hard to maneuver but it's not a very good brawler (low HP) and it's very weak against rocket (rdbs and db everywhere) is it better than Griffin? Well it's jump ability is works for only getting in trouble my hanger is level 8 kumiho with level 9 orks All 9 pdb griff All 9 tharnage 7/7/8/8 rdb 5/5/7/8 stuka griff is rhino better platform for orks? I still run a Plasma Rhino on master@ios league. if a Plasma Griff has a place in your hangar, so is Plasma Rhino. sure it cannot jump avoid rockets, but it can go places faster and effective against plasma and other sniper bots, especially Zeus bots that infest DM mode battles atm. Taran, Taran, Taran, Shield (enemy zaps the Shield with Zeus), Taran, Taran, Taran, Shield (enemy zaps shield again), enemy dies ... is the rhythm for a plasma Rhino (of course will not work if the Zeus bot keep calm and wait, but they rarely do when charged, even at expert+ league) here’s an example: ... EDIT: for Orkans I prefer Rog, Doc, and Griff. and don’t ask me about Dashes and Shocktrucks ... not something I can get any time soon, Love the vid man. This is exactly what it’s like when Rhino works well. Getting to beacons quickly, taking out a challenger, then holding it. I also like how you use the assault mode to run sideways to cover towards the end, thus saving your life. I also do this a lot - it’s often the only way to avoid becoming a bag of enemy silver.
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Post by inspirace on Nov 21, 2017 0:59:11 GMT -5
... Taran, Taran, Taran, Shield (enemy zaps the Shield with Zeus), Taran, Taran, Taran, Shield (enemy zaps shield again), enemy dies ... is the rhythm for a plasma Rhino (of course will not work if the Zeus bot keep calm and wait, but they rarely do when charged, even at expert+ league) here’s an example: Love the vid man. This is exactly what it’s like when Rhino works well. Getting to beacons quickly, taking out a challenger, then holding it. I also like how you use the assault mode to run sideways to cover towards the end, thus saving your life. I also do this a lot - it’s often the only way to avoid becoming a bag of enemy silver. thanks DV, you are kind if you liked the video, please check these out, too: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/post/213970/threadit's more of "save a Rhino" moments than a good Rhino piloting... a Rhino trying to survive in increasingly harsh wild, with a little help from friends
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Post by elcheapo on Nov 21, 2017 3:22:38 GMT -5
The best things in life are free . That makes Rhino the best .
Even if you buy one hoochie coochie bot , you still gonna get whupped by the sad person who bought three or four . Dash bots will also be replaced sooner or later .
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Post by Nexsan on Nov 21, 2017 15:04:04 GMT -5
Get a Rhino! I still use one w/ Orkans/Magnums (Hellfire?) in Domination. Not as useful in Beacon Rush, but I don't participate in that mode if I can help it.
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Post by hyderier on Nov 21, 2017 15:15:59 GMT -5
Why are you playing this game? The answer depends on that!
Rhino is a fun, challenging, fast bot. Power and speed. Almost like a really crappy version of a Bulgasari.
OTOH Rhino is also total waste of WSP if you want to eventually get good gear. Actually most bots are total waste of resources if you want that... But getting them will take around 5 months per Dash I recon (counting both WSP and Au offers and only taking good offers towards set goal), if you don't waste Au or WSP on anything else (and stick with 4 slots until you have 2 Dashes, because 2 upgraded Dashes are easily worth 3-4 other bots, in skilled hands).
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Post by Nexsan on Nov 21, 2017 15:34:53 GMT -5
A Rhino fits my needs in Domination for capturing and holding Beacons. At the same time it's not a solo bot even though it can hold its own pretty well. Has a high skill curve to use but it's still a viable platform. Yes, a Haechi is more effective overall, so if it's achievable for you then go after that. Otherwise, get a Rhino and learn how to use it to the best of its abilities with the rest of us poor sods.
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Post by ᒪΛᏟIΛ on Nov 21, 2017 15:35:14 GMT -5
? have 13k wsp and everything that i can buy with wsp (carny stalky 4 tarans 4 mags 2 trebs 2 trids) now im going to buy rhino but i have huge question marks in my head first of all is it still viable? Sure it's hard to maneuver but it's not a very good brawler (low HP) and it's very weak against rocket (rdbs and db everywhere) is it better than Griffin? Well it's jump ability is works for only getting in trouble my hanger is level 8 kumiho with level 9 orks All 9 pdb griff All 9 tharnage 7/7/8/8 rdb 5/5/7/8 stuka griff is rhino better platform for orks? I still run a Plasma Rhino on master@ios league. if a Plasma Griff has a place in your hangar, so is Plasma Rhino. sure it cannot jump avoid rockets, but it can go places faster and effective against plasma and other sniper bots, especially Zeus bots that infest DM mode battles atm. Taran, Taran, Taran, Shield (enemy zaps the Shield with Zeus), Taran, Taran, Taran, Shield (enemy zaps shield again), enemy dies ... is the rhythm for a plasma Rhino (of course will not work if the Zeus bot keep calm and wait, but they rarely do when charged, even at expert+ league) here’s an example: ... EDIT: for Orkans I prefer Rog, Doc, and Griff. and don’t ask me about Dashes and Shocktrucks ... not something I can get any time soon, ? think griffin is better platform for pdb because of jump ability and speed but
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Post by inspirace on Nov 21, 2017 16:12:56 GMT -5
I still run a Plasma Rhino on master@ios league. if a Plasma Griff has a place in your hangar, so is Plasma Rhino. sure it cannot jump avoid rockets, but it can go places faster and effective against plasma and other sniper bots, especially Zeus bots that infest DM mode battles atm. ... EDIT: for Orkans I prefer Rog, Doc, and Griff. and donâ??t ask me about Dashes and Shocktrucks ... not something I can get any time soon, Ä° think griffin is better platform for pdb because of jump ability and speed but Plasma Griffin is a great setup for sure, a beast in a heated multi-vs-multi combat. it does have a jump every 25sec, which you can limitedly use for avoiding rockets and also finding a shooting window during the a jump from, ideally, one cover to another, Plasma Rhino has much faster ground speed while in a rush (â??Assault modeâ? is the name but rarely used for attack these days). so it can run for beacons. plus, against plasma enemies, its shield provide a great protection which a Griff lacks. consider your Plasma Griff met a Zeus Carn, a Tarancilot, all kinds of Treb/Gekko/Scourge/Shocktruck ?poo-poo?s, etc, which especially abundant in Domination battles: a Plasma Griff will have to hide and nothing much to do except for waiting for a shielded teammates. a Plasma Rhino can win 1-vs-1 against most of those listed above, or at least hold position against multiple of them. high level Magnums can deal damage while you are hiding behind the shield, and whenever you see a window of the enemy weapon recharging, you can unleash your Tarans while repositioning, you can use a DB Rhino, but I prefer the DB setup on Griff/Rog/Doc. when I build the second hangar for larger maps, I may buy another Rhino with DB as a beacon runner in there, ... and Griff jump. I feel a Griff jumps too high with too long cool-down. not available often enough and exposing the bot to ebpnemy plasma weapons for too long and too high. hence, I feel a Rog is a better carrier of Tarans among jumping bots, I still like DB, Stuka, and RDB Griff setups. the long jump can extend these Griffsâ?? range, to finish off a target far away - which feels great. but this should be used with caution, otherwise especially the DB Griff will become a suicidal 1-vs-1 bot exchange ticket,
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Post by jlr on Nov 21, 2017 21:12:11 GMT -5
I use both! Hellfire rhino and pdb griff. If in doubt about choosing between items for your hangar, take all of them.
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Post by U Camp = I Camp on Nov 22, 2017 14:16:41 GMT -5
now im going to buy rhino but i have huge question marks in my head first of all is it still viable? is it better than Griffin? is rhino better platform for orks? - Yes, it's still viable...to a degree, but that's very dependent on your platform, league, and especially skill with it. Even then, a Griff might still be overall better to use. - Imho, generally no. Except in these areas, capping beacons and getting there quickly w/ lots of punch. - Imho, db load out on a rhino is the best version of the rhino. That build just has good synergy. But is it the better platform for orks? Compared to what, a Griff? Imho...no. Good luck with your decision.
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Post by shivaswrath on Nov 22, 2017 21:55:05 GMT -5
13k won't get you close to a haechi.
It'll take nearly 100k++ WSP.
Get the rhino and enjoy.
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