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Post by ༒ƜƦƛƖƬӇ༒ on Nov 18, 2017 20:35:57 GMT -5
The Hover bot is dumb.. Just sayin.. Might as well just paint a target on yer bum..
I tried it last week on the test server, wasn't impressed.. It flys very high.. and is slow in the air.. Gimmie my Griff and my Rogs..
The Storm.. kinda the same thing.. Not impressive.. Gimmie my Orks and Puns
The Shocktrain nerfs.. I guess not enough, I mean Shocktrain is baddazz.. it is OP and will stay that way.. but much on the same level as the Dash bots..
I am not going to cry about it.. If I start seeing a lot of them, I will just take 2 Leo's and load them up with Artillery that is lvl'd up and kill from above.. I have no issue in fighting fire with fire that I can afford..
I do well with Artillery bots.. Nori's and Zenits can be very destructive and can change a game when you know how to lead with them..
New Map is very cool.. y'll should dig it.. it is a ton of fun, provides some very interesting play.. To me, it is much different than anything else we currently have..
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New weapon on the current test server is like a Aphid but medium slot.. It gives more damage than an Aphid.... Put it and an Aphid on a Griff.. it will be an interesting build..
I actually think they need to buff the new weapon just a bit.. But I am sure I am in the minority on that..
Cheers..
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Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Nov 18, 2017 21:16:41 GMT -5
I’m very pleased with the ad option. I can’t spend more money on the game than the 600Au for 0.99 deal when it pops up every few days. Ill be more than happy to view stupid ads to help speed up upgrades instead of wasting small chunks of gold on it.
Dreadnought: I saw some video on the new map and though it was textureless, the layout is incredibly awesome! I’m super psyched about it! Looks like it’s got something for everyone. I ABOSOLUTELY LOVE the different levels & if I’m not mistaken, isn’t there a closed building or 2 that has a roof that you can go in?? Like a closed room or 2 with a door and a couple windows?? If so that’s frickin’ awesome. I’d like to see more of that. Protection from arty and possibly Hydras, though Hydra’s may still find their way in through an open window ( or a tiny crack in the wall ?).
While I agree that The Shocktrain and Haechi nerfs are too small, it’s better than nothing. Should still make a somewhat significant difference. I think back to the -5% Thunder nerf and how much of a difference that measly 5% difference seemed to make. It’s a step in the right direction but both Haechi and ST will almost certainly still be OP.
Let’s see.. what else..? The buffs are AWESOME. I feel like they were set up just for me ? I Just got my first Tempest 2 days ago and have it upgrading to 8 now. Gonna try it on my Leo and my Golem along with some newly buffed molots! Hopefully the Molot buff covers the Molot T as well. Aside from running them with my Tempest, I’d love to bring back my counter-sniper MoloGekko or full Molo Rhino for some matches. Just got my first Scourges from the event so I’m happy about the buff there as well. I don’t have much to run them on but I’ve been running 1 of them on my Golem with a Zeus & Gekko and it’s loads of fun. To top off the rebalance, they nerfed Hydras a little and that makes me happy too.
I’m indifferent to the Hangar deck thing for 2 reasons.
#1 - I’ll never have enough Au that I would consider spending that much on something so stupid. I could probably come up with 30 other things I’d rather spend gold on.
#2 - At that price I highly doubt there will be enough people (at the level I play at) dropping the Au on it to have much effect on the matches I play in. I honestly don’t even expect to notice a bit of difference.
Last and almost least, the Hover and Storm. 2 more things I’m indifferent to. Since both items will likely be component priced I doubt they will end up in my hangar for a long, long time. I still have a ton of catching up to do with the other component bots/weapons that I can’t even think about that right now. Hopefully neither are OP. Remember, just cause things are weak in the TS doesn’t mean they’ll be the same when they go live! Not too worried about it though. My Zeus Fury will strike those hovering hotshots right out the damn sky.?
Did I miss anything?
All in all the update looks great in text. Hopefully it plays out that way.
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Post by bronzeknee on Nov 18, 2017 21:19:59 GMT -5
I actually think they need to buff the new weapon just a bit.. But I am sure I am in the minority on that.. Because weapons outscale armor, level 8 weapons seem weaker versus level 8 robots than level 12 weapons versus level 12 robots. So I want you to remember what you said about the Vortex... It is exactly why the Ember and Shocktrain got released as they are after seeming "weak" on the test server. Pixonic really should set the test server to level 12. |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Nov 18, 2017 21:50:06 GMT -5
Hover bots have a broad skill curve. Thay can be pretty awesome when played right. I think Im ok with the latest weapons except the shocktrains, storm and vortex included. They add to the game but only seem OP on the haechi. Pix will have to nerf haechi a bit more. Ads are good as stated earlier. As for hangars, i think it would be ok only if pixo added to the post game prizes to iron man hangars as a nod to skill. (I know they wont).
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Post by aceboy44 on Nov 18, 2017 22:02:11 GMT -5
The Hover bot is dumb.. Just sayin.. Might as well just paint a target on yer bum.. I tried it last week on the test server, wasn't impressed.. It flys very high.. and is slow in the air.. Gimmie my Griff and my Rogs.. I was going to pay for the Hover bot with RM when it came since I wanted to remove my thunder leo and replace it with something FUN to play (like the Inquisitor but $300 is insane.) Oh well, thanks for the heads up  |
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Post by Strayed on Nov 18, 2017 22:03:44 GMT -5
I actually think they need to buff the new weapon just a bit.. But I am sure I am in the minority on that.. Because weapons outscale armor, level 8 weapons seem weaker versus level 8 robots than level 12 weapons versus level 12 robots. So I want you to remember what you said about the Vortex... It is exactly why the Ember and Shocktrain got released as they are after seeming "weak" on the test server. Pixonic really should set the test server to level 12. It used to be at level 12, but I'm guessing that they changed it to level 8 to hoodwink players into letting op weapons onto the live server. |
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Post by Poopface on Nov 18, 2017 23:13:38 GMT -5
Uh uh. There is no new poop. I’m the same old poop. Just floating around here. I refuse to be flushed. I’m that floater that refuses to go down the drain. You’re stuck with me. |
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Post by leavemealone on Nov 18, 2017 23:49:24 GMT -5
The hoover is only good for target pratice.
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Post by amidf on Nov 19, 2017 0:15:24 GMT -5
The hoover is only good for target pratice. I dunno. I think the hoover will really clean up. |
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Post by ༒ƜƦƛƖƬӇ༒ on Nov 19, 2017 1:05:23 GMT -5
I’m indifferent to the Hangar deck thing for 2 reasons. #1 - I’ll never have enough Au that I would consider spending that much on something so stupid. I could probably come up with 30 other things I’d rather spend gold on. #2 - At that price I highly doubt there will be enough people (at the level I play at) dropping the Au on it to have much effect on the matches I play in. I honestly don’t even expect to notice a bit of difference. I didn't even bring up the multiple hangers option.. because only those with a TON of cash can do anything with them.. UNLESS you are a tanker.. You have to level up 10-Bots for 2 Hangers AND pay 7500 AU for the privilege of spending that kind of money to lvl up 5 more slots of Bots and weapons.. Now can you imagine the cash you would have to have to level up FIVE (5) Hanger Decks?  ? INSANE... TANKERS/SEAL Clubbers on the other hand will now be able to switch quickly between their lvl 1 hanger and their MK2/lvl 12 hanger.. Who the heck has the cash to lvl up 5 hangers.. Here I have an extra 20-grand.. freaking crazy.. let me give you 7500 AU so I can spend more money.. OH yeah and I will watch some AD's too.. It almost makes it so you have to wash the stink off you after playing a game.. sheesh.. |
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Post by ༒ƜƦƛƖƬӇ༒ on Nov 19, 2017 1:06:15 GMT -5
The hoover is only good for target pratice. I dunno. I think the hoover will really clean up. lol.. as only Hoovers can do..  |
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Post by ༒ƜƦƛƖƬӇ༒ on Nov 19, 2017 1:07:22 GMT -5
Uh uh. There is no new poop. I’m the same old poop. Just floating around here. I refuse to be flushed. I’m that floater that refuses to go down the drain. You’re stuck with me. I shall make a South Park reference.. and call you "Mr Hankey" for short.. |
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Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Nov 19, 2017 1:48:32 GMT -5
I’m indifferent to the Hangar deck thing for 2 reasons. #1 - I’ll never have enough Au that I would consider spending that much on something so stupid. I could probably come up with 30 other things I’d rather spend gold on. #2 - At that price I highly doubt there will be enough people (at the level I play at) dropping the Au on it to have much effect on the matches I play in. I honestly don’t even expect to notice a bit of difference. I didn't even bring up the multiple hangers option.. because only those with a TON of cash can do anything with them.. UNLESS you are a tanker.. You have to level up 10-Bots for 2 Hangers AND pay 7500 AU for the privilege of spending that kind of money to lvl up 5 more slots of Bots and weapons.. Now can you imagine the cash you would have to have to level up FIVE (5) Hanger Decks? ? INSANE... TANKERS/SEAL Clubbers on the other hand will now be able to switch quickly between their lvl 1 hanger and their MK2/lvl 12 hanger.. Who the heck has the cash to lvl up 5 hangers.. Here I have an extra 20-grand.. freaking crazy.. let me give you 7500 AU so I can spend more money.. OH yeah and I will watch some AD's too.. It almost makes it so you have to wash the stink off you after playing a game.. sheesh.. I’m not worried about it effecting the game in any way - positive or negative. Even tankers/clubbers are not going to be willing to drop 7500Au just to make their tanking ventures more convenient. That’s silly. They are gonna tank no matter what. I don’t see this affecting it one way or the other. The whales are the ones who can afford it but I don’t even see them having much need for it. Most of them are champs and are gonna stick with their best 5 bots no matter what to compete at the highest level. I can’t see them having much interest in “a spare hangar” As for myself, I already have enough leveled bots/weapons for 2-3 hangars.. That’s what I do. I collect. Keep everything at 9 and then just keep adding what I don’t have and build my collection because I enjoy variety and having many options at my disposal. If the extra hangar(s) were much more reasonably priced, this would be right up my alley. But it’s far from a necessity. If I feel like running a particular setup on a particular map I’ll just keep running it and wait till i land on the map I want. What would REALLY make me happy is if we could take weapons off a bot that’s in storage to put on a hangar bot without having to move the one in storage into the current hangar first AND/OR transfer any weapons from any bot to another without having to manually unequip and equip them. Just have the weapons that are on bots show up in inventory with a small banner that says “in use” and then if you choose to select it, it just comes off the old bot and onto the new one. |
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Post by hi5 on Nov 19, 2017 2:27:31 GMT -5
The hoover is only good for target pratice. I dunno. I think the hoover will really clean up. No way, it’s just gonna suck. |
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Post by ༒ƜƦƛƖƬӇ༒ on Nov 19, 2017 7:45:25 GMT -5
I didn't even bring up the multiple hangers option.. because only those with a TON of cash can do anything with them.. UNLESS you are a tanker.. You have to level up 10-Bots for 2 Hangers AND pay 7500 AU for the privilege of spending that kind of money to lvl up 5 more slots of Bots and weapons.. Now can you imagine the cash you would have to have to level up FIVE (5) Hanger Decks? ? INSANE... TANKERS/SEAL Clubbers on the other hand will now be able to switch quickly between their lvl 1 hanger and their MK2/lvl 12 hanger.. Who the heck has the cash to lvl up 5 hangers.. Here I have an extra 20-grand.. freaking crazy.. let me give you 7500 AU so I can spend more money.. OH yeah and I will watch some AD's too.. It almost makes it so you have to wash the stink off you after playing a game.. sheesh.. I’m not worried about it effecting the game in any way - positive or negative. Even tankers/clubbers are not going to be willing to drop 7500Au just to make their tanking ventures more convenient. That’s silly. They are gonna tank no matter what. I don’t see this affecting it one way or the other. The whales are the ones who can afford it but I don’t even see them having much need for it. Most of them are champs and are gonna stick with their best 5 bots no matter what to compete at the highest level. I can’t see them having much interest in “a spare hangar” As for myself, I already have enough leveled bots/weapons for 2-3 hangars.. That’s what I do. I collect. Keep everything at 9 and then just keep adding what I don’t have and build my collection because I enjoy variety and having many options at my disposal. If the extra hangar(s) were much more reasonably priced, this would be right up my alley. But it’s far from a necessity. If I feel like running a particular setup on a particular map I’ll just keep running it and wait till i land on the map I want. What would REALLY make me happy is if we could take weapons off a bot that’s in storage to put on a hangar bot without having to move the one in storage into the current hangar first AND/OR transfer any weapons from any bot to another without having to manually unequip and equip them. Just have the weapons that are on bots show up in inventory with a small banner that says “in use” and then if you choose to select it, it just comes off the old bot and onto the new one. well, I kinda a disagree on a few points.. When I was playing Alpha Wars and dropping up to 400 bucks a month..and I was going to spend that kind of money here.. Personally i would have 3 hangers.. Whales have much more leveled, because if I was them, I would have everything leveled, so I can choose for what I am feeling for the day.. but to have a mid-range Hanger, a Brawler Hanger and a Sniper hanger.. and say a mixed back of just for the fun of it hanger.. I would do that.. then if I am just grinding for the day I can swap hangers as I choose for each map or for a mood change, instead of manually changing out the bots, I can just switch on the fly.. That is a whale's dream.. it would be mine.... I was playing Dash's on Valley, then got dropped in Yam, I would love to run a mix of Snipers (butch's) and a few brawlers.. maybe a Spiderbot to protect center beacon) It also would be the epitome of coolness to brag about the hangers and what I have in them.. and back in my AW days.. 50-bucks was nothing.. I could spend that in a battle for a map..or 3 times that battling for a map.. If I was a tanker.. I also would love to have a lvl1 hanger.. just so if I landed on a map I hated, I could drop in my lvl 1 Cossacks with ecu shields.. Its a convenience thing if I am trying to tank down to bronze.. but find a map I feel like playing.. I can swap it out.. maybe not for most tanker/leavers.. but I would be into it if I was.. Just leaning back on all my psyche classes from back in the day on why ppl do what they do.. Tho I was in Human Behavior Sciences .. it kinda fits the bill for both ends of the game.. And btw.. I did what I did in AW because I had the disposable income..the game was my social life.. I enjoyed controlling the biggest and baddest assets in the game.. and I enjoyed the feeling of looking on a chart and seeing my gamer name in the top tiers... It is also why I do not begrudge those in this game that play that way.. because if I was monetarily where I was a few years back.. I would snap up a couple hangers and be leveling my own hangers in a NY minute.. |
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Post by danny on Nov 19, 2017 8:54:59 GMT -5
Because weapons outscale armor, level 8 weapons seem weaker versus level 8 robots than level 12 weapons versus level 12 robots. So I want you to remember what you said about the Vortex... It is exactly why the Ember and Shocktrain got released as they are after seeming "weak" on the test server. Pixonic really should set the test server to level 12. It used to be at level 12, but I'm guessing that they changed it to level 8 to hoodwink players into letting op weapons onto the live server. This is so insightful. |
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Nov 19, 2017 9:23:17 GMT -5
It used to be at level 12, but I'm guessing that they changed it to level 8 to hoodwink players into letting op weapons onto the live server. Not like they needed the players' permission and, by the general feeling about how much Pix's listen to the feedback, that they actually care about what they think.... Besides, shocktrain is OPed at level 8 as well. With 3 mounted on an haeci or bulga and hitting 2,5 bots average per shot, that gets to 446.002 damage per minute while shooting from relative safety. I think they introduced it as an anti-orkan dashes weapon, not wanting to nerf the bots, and it got out of hand. |
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Post by joshfishyu on Nov 19, 2017 9:58:36 GMT -5
I think they introduced it as an anti-orkan dashes weapon, not wanting to nerf the bots, and it got out of hand. Introducing 3x$100 weapon to counter $250 bots? Hmmm... |
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Post by _psychø on Nov 19, 2017 10:15:11 GMT -5
I'm kinda position about the upcoming things, but I had the same feelings before the dash bots come out, so I'm not sure yet, we'll have to wait until they actually make it into the live server.
Let me explain what I like about each one.
First thing, its obvious that Pixonic is running out of ideas by making a medium Aphid, medium Thunder, medium Gekko (Scourge), medium Zeus (Shocktrain) and a heavy Molot (Tempest), and Pix is also promoting the Medium weapons, it's even more obvious when you compare them to the heavy and especially light weapons.
But hey, back on topic:
The Glider bot, it's not better than my Rogatka, sure it has a bit more firepower, and it's ability is a bit dumb, but at least it's something that might not be overpowered like the recent bots, I think we need weak things that might cost silver or gold, people will probably make use of them.
The Storm, even though it looks more like a light weapon (I wouldn't complain if I see a Patton with four of those), but at least it's something for close range, could be a new toy to pair it with Punishers on a Griffin.
The Hellburner, once again, a kinda dumb bot with a weird ability, nothing jaw dropping but I like it honestly, we need light bots, and I always wanted to run a Schutze but I was never able to, so it might be an improved Schutze, it's not worth components or $300 though.
The Vortex weapon, again, a medium weapon for the dashers, everyone thinking it'll benefit the dash bots, and they aren't wrong, but at the same time, it'll be good to pair with Aphids on a Griffin, three or four on a Fujin or a Doc, I wouldn't complain if I see them on a Doc, sure it'll be like an improved Aphid Patton but dint forget that the Doc itself isn't a cheap bot.
And finally the Dreadnought map, it's pretty cool, maybe it's big as Canyon but it got a lot of room for brawling, it's theme is actually cool.
After all, that's just my opinion about the new stuff, I'm not saying that I love what Pix is doing, and not saying that they can't buff the new weapons and bots until they're unbearable, but we all have to wait and see how will they look like when they make their way into the live server.
Cheers!
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Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Nov 19, 2017 17:24:26 GMT -5
I’m not worried about it effecting the game in any way - positive or negative. Even tankers/clubbers are not going to be willing to drop 7500Au just to make their tanking ventures more convenient. That’s silly. They are gonna tank no matter what. I don’t see this affecting it one way or the other. The whales are the ones who can afford it but I don’t even see them having much need for it. Most of them are champs and are gonna stick with their best 5 bots no matter what to compete at the highest level. I can’t see them having much interest in “a spare hangar” As for myself, I already have enough leveled bots/weapons for 2-3 hangars.. That’s what I do. I collect. Keep everything at 9 and then just keep adding what I don’t have and build my collection because I enjoy variety and having many options at my disposal. If the extra hangar(s) were much more reasonably priced, this would be right up my alley. But it’s far from a necessity. If I feel like running a particular setup on a particular map I’ll just keep running it and wait till i land on the map I want. What would REALLY make me happy is if we could take weapons off a bot that’s in storage to put on a hangar bot without having to move the one in storage into the current hangar first AND/OR transfer any weapons from any bot to another without having to manually unequip and equip them. Just have the weapons that are on bots show up in inventory with a small banner that says “in use” and then if you choose to select it, it just comes off the old bot and onto the new one. well, I kinda a disagree on a few points.. When I was playing Alpha Wars and dropping up to 400 bucks a month..and I was going to spend that kind of money here.. Personally i would have 3 hangers.. Whales have much more leveled, because if I was them, I would have everything leveled, so I can choose for what I am feeling for the day.. but to have a mid-range Hanger, a Brawler Hanger and a Sniper hanger.. and say a mixed back of just for the fun of it hanger.. I would do that.. then if I am just grinding for the day I can swap hangers as I choose for each map or for a mood change, instead of manually changing out the bots, I can just switch on the fly.. That is a whale's dream.. it would be mine.... I was playing Dash's on Valley, then got dropped in Yam, I would love to run a mix of Snipers (butch's) and a few brawlers.. maybe a Spiderbot to protect center beacon) It also would be the epitome of coolness to brag about the hangers and what I have in them.. and back in my AW days.. 50-bucks was nothing.. I could spend that in a battle for a map..or 3 times that battling for a map.. If I was a tanker.. I also would love to have a lvl1 hanger.. just so if I landed on a map I hated, I could drop in my lvl 1 Cossacks with ecu shields.. Its a convenience thing if I am trying to tank down to bronze.. but find a map I feel like playing.. I can swap it out.. maybe not for most tanker/leavers.. but I would be into it if I was.. Just leaning back on all my psyche classes from back in the day on why ppl do what they do.. Tho I was in Human Behavior Sciences .. it kinda fits the bill for both ends of the game.. And btw.. I did what I did in AW because I had the disposable income..the game was my social life.. I enjoyed controlling the biggest and baddest assets in the game.. and I enjoyed the feeling of looking on a chart and seeing my gamer name in the top tiers... It is also why I do not begrudge those in this game that play that way.. because if I was monetarily where I was a few years back.. I would snap up a couple hangers and be leveling my own hangers in a NY minute.. I understand your reasoning for believing it will effect the game and I have considered those things too, especially the first point about whales not having a particular “best” hangar because they have so much leveled. At the level I play at (D1) I don’t have to worry about too much of that though ?. I usually expect the worse but in this case I don’t expect to see much difference - with the tankers or otherwise. However, You certainly could be right though. Your points are valid. I guess we will see. Only time will tell. |
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