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Post by inesb on Nov 14, 2017 6:05:33 GMT -5
Pixonic has created a "Leavers Queue" to prevent tanking and misuse of the ranking system. I have never been in that Leavers Queue and I don´t know much about it, but I read here a lot of it. People are discussing here about it. Some complain that they are in there for no reason, others brag that they are tanking and have tricks to bypass Leavers Queue. I often have matches where teammates destroy 4 of their bots right at the start and then run suicide with the last one. I often get annoyed about losing games because my team is outnumbered after less than half of the time. Maybe that´s not always because of tankers or leavers, but it´s annoying anyway. I think Pixonic should do much more to encourage players to fight till the end and survive the whole game. I think surving the game should be a prerequisite for getting any gold rewards. If a player does most damage or most beacons but mechs out before the match ends, then the second best should get the gold.
Maybe another point that could encourage people more could be a clearer and better silver reward payout system and a better repair cost system. Nobody really knows how silver reward and repair costs are calculated. Ditching bots for nothing should become really expensive, much more expensive as if they die from enemy fire.
Then, I have two more suggestions. First, I suggest that silver reward payout should be cut for players that mech out. The earlier he mechs out, the more it is cut. And what is cut should be distributed to the remaining players as compensation for being outnumbererd. I think, if a player mechs out
-after less than 5min, then 100% of his silver earnings should be taken and distributed among the remaing teammates
-after more than 5 but less than 6min, then 90% of his silver earnings should be taken and distributed among the remaing teammates
-after more than 6 but less than 7min, then 70% of his silver earnings should be taken and distributed among the remaing teammates
-after more than 7 but less than 8min, then 50% of his silver earnings should be taken and distributed among the remaing teammates
-after more than 8 but less than 9min, then 25% of his silver earnings should be taken and distributed among the remaing teammates
-after more than 9 but less than 10min, then 5% of his silver earnings should be taken and distributed among the remaing teammates
Of course a player who mechs out may not benefit from other teammates that mech out later. For example: If player A mechs out after 4min and player B mechs out after 7min, then player A doesn´t get anything from player B. First 100% of A´s silver earnings are distributed among B, C, D, E & F, then 50% of the silver earnings of player B (which include 20% share of A´s) are distributed among C, D, E & F.
My second suggestion for intensifying this mech-out-penalty is a participation fee for each battle. Not much, but if players have to invest silver first to take part in a battle, then they want to get this investment back. And they only get it back if they survive the battle. I think at the start of a battle every player should put a pledge in a kind of trust fund, and at the end of the battle it is paid back, but only to those who survived. The participation fee could increase with the league. In bronze league it could be only 10 silver for example, in gold league it should be more. And in expert league it should be so much that it would become really expensive if someone wants to tank back to lower leagues.
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Post by 7iquid on Nov 14, 2017 6:19:50 GMT -5
Good post but one question: if a player mechs out / suicides early in game then he will earn very little gold, silver, au etc. This will leave very little to distribute among remaining players.
The kind of play you describe is more about getting the -22 league points than anything else...
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Post by inesb on Nov 14, 2017 6:39:54 GMT -5
Good post but one question: if a player mechs out / suicides early in game then he will earn very little gold, silver, au etc. This will leave very little to distribute among remaining players. |
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Post by wildboar on Nov 14, 2017 7:33:30 GMT -5
Maybe if the silver fee for dropping a bot is based on the % health left on the bot ... that way it becomes expensive to drop 4 healthy bots... I guess they would just suicide them
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Post by AzureAura on Nov 14, 2017 7:59:32 GMT -5
I honestly think this punishes those who get blitzed and get meched out really early on, and it doesn't do much for people who quit the battle as they score 0 damage and gain little silver. It also doesn't address the tanker problem as they can just drop to lower leagues and club new players to regain the silver they lost dropping as their bots are more than enough to survive the battle.
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Post by ᕲΣΣᕲƧ on Nov 14, 2017 9:49:12 GMT -5
So the player who hides in the back and contributes almost nothing gets the rewards while the player who leads the charge, does the most damage, caps the beacons that wins the game, and does most of the work gets nothing?
Yeah try again please.
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Post by Ⓑⓞⓑ Ⓓⓨⓛⓐⓝ on Nov 14, 2017 10:09:04 GMT -5
Didn't read post because of hideous green text and formatting.
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Post by Paps on Nov 14, 2017 10:16:01 GMT -5
Pass.
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Post by inesb on Nov 15, 2017 6:39:15 GMT -5
So the player who hides in the back and contributes almost nothing gets the rewards while the player who leads the charge, does the most damage, caps the beacons that wins the game, and does most of the work gets nothing? Yeah try again please.
My second thought was to give compensation to those who were left behind. Someone who fights outnumbered should be rewarded.
(***which means the earlier they mech out)
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Post by Blight Thunder on Nov 16, 2017 1:25:31 GMT -5
Pixonic has created a "Leavers Queue" to prevent tanking and misuse of the ranking system. I have never been in that Leavers Queue and I don´t know much about it, but I read here a lot of it. People are discussing here about it. Some complain that they are in there for no reason, others brag that they are tanking and have tricks to bypass Leavers Queue. I often have matches where teammates destroy 4 of their bots right at the start and then run suicide with the last one. I often get annoyed about losing games because my team is outnumbered after less than half of the time. Maybe that´s not always because of tankers or leavers, but it´s annoying anyway. I think Pixonic should do much more to encourage players to fight till the end and survive the whole game. I think surving the game should be a prerequisite for getting any gold rewards. If a player does most damage or most beacons but mechs out before the match ends, then the second best should get the gold.
Maybe another point that could encourage people more could be a clearer and better silver reward payout system and a better repair cost system. Nobody really knows how silver reward and repair costs are calculated. Ditching bots for nothing should become really expensive, much more expensive as if they die from enemy fire.
Then, I have two more suggestions. First, I suggest that silver reward payout should be cut for players that mech out. The earlier he mechs out, the more it is cut. And what is cut should be distributed to the remaining players as compensation for being outnumbererd. I think, if a player mechs out
-after less than 5min, then 100% of his silver earnings should be taken and distributed among the remaing teammates
-after more than 5 but less than 6min, then 90% of his silver earnings should be taken and distributed among the remaing teammates
-after more than 6 but less than 7min, then 70% of his silver earnings should be taken and distributed among the remaing teammates
-after more than 7 but less than 8min, then 50% of his silver earnings should be taken and distributed among the remaing teammates
-after more than 8 but less than 9min, then 25% of his silver earnings should be taken and distributed among the remaing teammates
-after more than 9 but less than 10min, then 5% of his silver earnings should be taken and distributed among the remaing teammates
Of course a player who mechs out may not benefit from other teammates that mech out later. For example: If player A mechs out after 4min and player B mechs out after 7min, then player A doesn´t get anything from player B. First 100% of A´s silver earnings are distributed among B, C, D, E & F, then 50% of the silver earnings of player B (which include 20% share of A´s) are distributed among C, D, E & F.
My second suggestion for intensifying this mech-out-penalty is a participation fee for each battle. Not much, but if players have to invest silver first to take part in a battle, then they want to get this investment back. And they only get it back if they survive the battle. I think at the start of a battle every player should put a pledge in a kind of trust fund, and at the end of the battle it is paid back, but only to those who survived. The participation fee could increase with the league. In bronze league it could be only 10 silver for example, in gold league it should be more. And in expert league it should be so much that it would become really expensive if someone wants to tank back to lower leagues.
First, stop with the green. Second, people could just not move at the back while there team is disadvantaged and mech out. That gives the tanker free silver for standing still |
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Post by weaksauce on Nov 16, 2017 1:32:30 GMT -5
So the player who hides in the back and contributes almost nothing gets the rewards while the player who leads the charge, does the most damage, caps the beacons that wins the game, and does most of the work gets nothing? Yeah try again please. This comment so solidly answered the OP that this thread should have auto locked right as Deeds hit "Enter" |
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Post by hon_shu on Nov 16, 2017 1:38:50 GMT -5
DUDE, YOU FORGOT THE CAPS.
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Post by rdood on Nov 16, 2017 3:48:15 GMT -5
I barely make 100k every battle after the repair costs even when I hit 1mill, being punished for meching out first would widen the gap between noobs and everyone else by making them do 5x the work for 1 upgrade.
No
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Nov 16, 2017 5:14:23 GMT -5
Then, I have two more suggestions. First, I suggest that silver reward payout should be cut for players that mech out. The earlier he mechs out, the more it is cut. And what is cut should be distributed to the remaining players as compensation for being outnumbererd. I think, if a player mechs out
My second suggestion for intensifying this mech-out-penalty is a participation fee for each battle. Not much, but if players have to invest silver first to take part in a battle, then they want to get this investment back. And so there was that everyone stayed at spawn point lobbying hydras and spirals at each other. And there was much snoozing. |
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Post by AzureAura on Nov 16, 2017 7:10:58 GMT -5
Then, I have two more suggestions. First, I suggest that silver reward payout should be cut for players that mech out. The earlier he mechs out, the more it is cut. And what is cut should be distributed to the remaining players as compensation for being outnumbererd. I think, if a player mechs out
My second suggestion for intensifying this mech-out-penalty is a participation fee for each battle. Not much, but if players have to invest silver first to take part in a battle, then they want to get this investment back. And so there was that everyone stayed at spawn point lobbying hydras and spirals at each other. And there was much snoozing. This is exactly how the game would play out if players got penalized for meching out early, knife fighting would end, spydras would rule the meta, even more people would leave even the ones that paid money, anciles would become the dominant sheld type and the game would end as we know it. |
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Post by The VVatcher on Nov 16, 2017 7:21:24 GMT -5
It felt like I just stared at the Matrix
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Nov 16, 2017 8:02:46 GMT -5
It felt like I just stared at the Matrix  |
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Post by SuperHero on Nov 16, 2017 8:17:16 GMT -5
And so there was that everyone stayed at spawn point lobbying hydras and spirals at each other. And there was much snoozing. I hope you meant LOBBING Hydras and Spirals. Because I suddenly had a vision of Hydras and Spirals trying to convince members of Congress of their effectiveness. |
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Nov 16, 2017 8:22:05 GMT -5
And so there was that everyone stayed at spawn point lobbying hydras and spirals at each other. And there was much snoozing. I hope you meant LOBBING Hydras and Spirals. Because I suddenly had a vision of Hydras and Spirals trying to convince members of Congress of their effectiveness. I blame my phone's autocorrect. The news of war robot being just a test before real life introduction of gladiatorial robot fights to the death in the United States is fakenews. In other news, the Russians were totally in contact with the White House because of the elections and nothing but the elections. It's just a case that a candidate who dealt with boxing and WWE won them. Or that Walking War Robots and WWE are so similar. Nothing to see here. |
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Post by operator8472 on Nov 16, 2017 10:59:28 GMT -5
So the player who hides in the back and contributes almost nothing gets the rewards while the player who leads the charge, does the most damage, caps the beacons that wins the game, and does most of the work gets nothing? Yeah try again please. That's a normal game as things are now. Do the damage, run get the beacons, get blizted, and thanks to other players who dont know how to cap a beacon, voila, U get nada. Frankly I"m a newb and I'm already fed up with the script kiddies and dummies who can't cap a beacon! So much so, I'm no longer playing it. Yeah that's right I'm no longer going to serve as cannon fodder so Pixonic has someone for ppl to blow up. They can create a damn bot in their game to do that. |
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Post by javelinaut717 on Nov 16, 2017 11:05:21 GMT -5
.....why green?
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Post by operator8472 on Nov 16, 2017 11:05:34 GMT -5
I hope you meant LOBBING Hydras and Spirals. Because I suddenly had a vision of Hydras and Spirals trying to convince members of Congress of their effectiveness. I blame my phone's autocorrect. The news of war robot being just a test before real life introduction of gladiatorial robot fights to the death in the United States is fakenews. In other news, the Russians were totally in contact with the White House because of the elections and nothing but the elections. It's just a case that a candidate who dealt with boxing and WWE won them. Or that Walking War Robots and WWE are so similar. Nothing to see here. No it's not. the United States already has a "war mech" it's called the M1Abrahams perhaps you have heard of it? Saddams Russian made T-72's sure did, when we cut htrough them and destroyed them all in about five days time. ROFL And I thought it's NO politics here? Did I misread that in the TOS? Just asking cause well I cld comment but wont cause I'm not sure and dnt want to get in trbl. ROFL |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 16, 2017 11:24:17 GMT -5
So the player who hides in the back and contributes almost nothing gets the rewards while the player who leads the charge, does the most damage, caps the beacons that wins the game, and does most of the work gets nothing? Yeah try again please. SNIP....Frankly I"m a newb and I'm already fed up with the script kiddies and dummies.... SNIP I am fairly certain I saw one of them Script-Bots the other day in FB/GR for the first time while in a match. It was a sniper that did OK damage during the game... but stayed in the same position pretty much. Nothing to be concerned with, on the whole, at this point as that mirrors most campers' activities in low level-ish games. However... after I was the last Blue alive... and was taking the Home beacon that that sniper was 200m away from, he never looked at me and kept shooting towards the CB every 20 secs or so. Again, I was the last blue alive and no Red was near there. Wonder how many of those are out there on FB/GR as it has got to be easier to hack since it is PC based. |
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Nov 16, 2017 11:28:58 GMT -5
I blame my phone's autocorrect. The news of war robot being just a test before real life introduction of gladiatorial robot fights to the death in the United States is fakenews. In other news, the Russians were totally in contact with the White House because of the elections and nothing but the elections. It's just a case that a candidate who dealt with boxing and WWE won them. Or that Walking War Robots and WWE are so similar. Nothing to see here. No it's not. the United States already has a "war mech" it's called the M1Abrahams perhaps you have heard of it? Saddams Russian made T-72's sure did, when we cut htrough them and destroyed them all in about five days time. ROFL And I thought it's NO politics here? Did I misread that in the TOS? Just asking cause well I cld comment but wont cause I'm not sure and dnt want to get in trbl. ROFL You do realize, yes, that we were joking about fictional weapons lobbying the congress and the russians interfering in teh American elections in order to introduce gladiatorial robo-fights, don't you? Because if you don't, you need help. Good help. |
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Post by SuperHero on Nov 16, 2017 11:34:01 GMT -5
No it's not. the United States already has a "war mech" it's called the M1Abrahams perhaps you have heard of it? Saddams Russian made T-72's sure did, when we cut htrough them and destroyed them all in about five days time. ROFL And I thought it's NO politics here? Did I misread that in the TOS? Just asking cause well I cld comment but wont cause I'm not sure and dnt want to get in trbl. ROFL You do realize, yes, that we were joking about fictional weapons lobbying the congress and the russians interfering in teh American elections in order to introduce gladiatorial robo-fights, don't you? Because if you don't, you need help. Good help. Besides, it’s meant to an M1 ABRAMS! Im on a spelling tyrant roll!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 4:23:31 GMT -5
Rise of the Faders. They're everywhere!
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Post by jester911 on Nov 20, 2017 13:38:02 GMT -5
No more GREEN outs!!!
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Post by Roninsedge on Nov 21, 2017 19:43:28 GMT -5
I go hard but it's tough when no one else tries to win. I tend to mech out but will be left alone a lot or followed by cossacks using me as a meat shield. My heavies shouldn't be the primary capper. I can't wait to unlock my 5th slot then get a rogata for capping. Add in the small pool of players on Amazon servers and I see this a lot.  I was spawn camped and my last two mech went down in seconds. |
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Post by porkchopexpress on Nov 21, 2017 20:17:24 GMT -5
No it's not. the United States already has a "war mech" it's called the M1Abrahams perhaps you have heard of it? Saddams Russian made T-72's sure did, when we cut htrough them and destroyed them all in about five days time. ROFL And I thought it's NO politics here? Did I misread that in the TOS? Just asking cause well I cld comment but wont cause I'm not sure and dnt want to get in trbl. ROFL You do realize, yes, that we were joking about fictional weapons lobbying the congress and the russians interfering in teh American elections in order to introduce gladiatorial robo-fights, don't you? Because if you don't, you need help. Good help. you take your meds today? ? |
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Post by Gdu4ever on Nov 27, 2017 22:20:16 GMT -5
Not completely agreeing but the participation fee part is just excellent.
It can not only deal with the mech out problem, but also punishes tankers.
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