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Post by Nexsan on Nov 6, 2017 17:49:08 GMT -5
Just finished the Raijin task the other day and am wondering if anybody here knows some good spots to climb off the top of their head, as well as how this function works in general. Advice would be appreciated.
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Post by nocluevok on Nov 6, 2017 17:50:36 GMT -5
Just finished the Raijin task the other day and am wondering if anybody here knows some good spots to climb off the top of their head, as well as how this function works in general. Advice would be appreciated. Anywhere I can get a clean shot at it would be great.?
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Post by darkknight on Nov 6, 2017 17:53:07 GMT -5
Poweplant top..u’ll become center of attraction for all jk...I really don’t think it’s climbing is of much use except in some long maps but I really love climbing with it lol
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Post by MahWaffle on Nov 6, 2017 18:23:17 GMT -5
For moon map, you can climb the lower walls of center building fairly easily to reach the 2nd floor and the top of that building. This definitely is much better than walking the long way around just to take out a red there or for a quick get-away from any possible madness below.
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Post by Replicant on Nov 6, 2017 18:27:24 GMT -5
Nexsan Of all the map locations, the best I've found is on Yamantau. You can climb on top of the roofing that covers one of the two connecting bridges. From that roof-top vantage you have good LOS on pretty much the whole map. As far as how it works in general - not nearly as well as it should. When you move up against a climbable surface, the leg animation will alter and the chassis will move a bit upward. The problem is you don't get any real feedback beyond that. There are lots of structures that are climbable from one side but not from another. Having a slightly angles surface to start with is often a positive sign, but its not a guarantee. As an example, on the moon map: you can climb up onto the central structure from the shear side near beacon B, but I haven't found any other good points on spawn point A - side of the map (besides the ramp). The best advice I can give is start a custom game and experiment.
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Post by moolamu on Nov 6, 2017 19:56:46 GMT -5
Not sure if still possible after its climbing abilities got reduced.
I used to climb on top of the rock pillars in Canyon with double Zeus. You get unprecedented line of sight on all reds, but so do they on you.
You could become the God of Thunder himself, smiting helpless knifers left and right, or get disintergrated by the million rockets and sniper fire coming your way.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 21:33:58 GMT -5
I have a post on Raijin climbing. The fighting part is kinda old now, because they nerfed the Raijin a week after I posted it. Yeah, I climbed pretty much on top of everything back in the day. If you can see it, you can climb it. Not anymore. Haven't bothered to run it much anymore. They keep on nerfing things. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/7553/raijin
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Post by moolamu on Nov 7, 2017 1:14:07 GMT -5
I have a post on Raijin climbing. The fighting part is kinda old now, because they nerfed the Raijin a week after I posted it. Yeah, I climbed pretty much on top of everything back in the day. If you can see it, you can climb it. Not anymore. Haven't bothered to run it much anymore. They keep on nerfing things. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/7553/raijinThat is... a seriously extensive guide for climbing. How much of it was nerfed? I was taking a break from War Robots when that happened.
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Post by DarkVagabond on Nov 7, 2017 3:06:00 GMT -5
Hey @gatsby Congrats on getting your Raijin. He can be a tough critter to take down when used well, or a giant sack of enemy silver when not. Raijin is best used as an alternative to the Fury by players stuck in the iOS Diamond 1/Expert 3 matchmaking hole. Since you often face maxed Champion League players, you often need a strong midranger to counter them. The Raijin has two physical shields, more HP than a Leo, the ability to climb high structures to make up for its low firing profile, AND in bastion mode it’s almost as powerful as a Fury. That’s a great resume on paper, but I’ll admit, I still prefer Zeus Carnage for the extra mobility in this situation, especially with so many dashbots with Orkans. However, the Raijin can in limited instances be more useful than a Fury, especially with two Zeus, Tempest or Thunders (Beacon Rush). @macwarrobots has already linked to his older post, which contains most of the good stuff you should be thinking about. To answer your question here are two of the best climbing spots for the Raijin. My favourite was always in Moon on the tower just right of spawn. You can climb it from here: Once you’re on top, you have many options for midrange (ignore my Thunders in the pic, it’s just a demo I did). From here you have the best midrange coverage of the entire field. I prefer it climbing the centre structure because you have more defensive possibilities. In the centre even an Orkan Rogatka can become a major problem. From the tower behind home beacon you can provide support fire for both side beacons, get snipers standing on the enemy hill on the other side, and sting enemies advancing on the home beacon before they even realise you’re there, as you are always out of their direct line of sight or they assume you are still at spawn behind the tower. Last but certaonly not least, you should be taking note of any Griffins or Rogatkas on the field and trying to hit them with Zeus at EVERY opportunity. Here are the target areas. Of course if you have multiples pushing home beacon, you should take cover. I recommend the position below. Just note that you will slowly slide down from here, but as long as you prop yourself up again every now and then you can hold it all day. You can also peek up again and take a shot once you’ve reloaded. Avoid bastion mode in this situation, that’s all. Here is the cover position: The other main map which has already been mentioned is Yamantau on the roof of the bridge. Starting out trying to climb it can be frustrating and time wasting if you don’t know what you’re doing. The key principle to any climbing with the Raijin is to keep your forward most facing leg on the structure you’re trying to climb at all times. Like this: Once you’ve practised that principle it’s amazing how reliably you can climb many structures without a 90 degree corner at the base. I hope this has been helpful. Let us know how you get on with it. DV
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Post by DarkVagabond on Nov 7, 2017 3:29:44 GMT -5
Just finished the Raijin task the other day and am wondering if anybody here knows some good spots to climb off the top of their head, as well as how this function works in general. Advice would be appreciated. It won’t let me add some of the images to my previous post. Files may be too big. The cover position in Moon map is just retreating back behind the tower and holding on in that position. Just let me know if anything else needs clarification. DV
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Post by seanh on Nov 7, 2017 8:32:49 GMT -5
Just got mine the other day on a new android account, if you figure out how to get it to climb out of the ‘useless sack of silver for the reds’ category into the ‘valuable / viable addition to my hanger’ category I would appreciate some instructions / demo.
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Post by Eurobercik on Nov 7, 2017 9:27:06 GMT -5
Also, while a bit hard, it's possible to climb from A to B beacon on Powerplant. It's faster than going around. (Also, you can "jump over" barrels and go straight from B to A).
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Post by TravLar on Nov 7, 2017 9:49:07 GMT -5
Just finished the Raijin task the other day and am wondering if anybody here knows some good spots to climb off the top of their head Maybe you could get to my ear and then go down the back of my neck and to my shoulder...
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Post by Nexsan on Nov 7, 2017 14:48:23 GMT -5
Just finished the Raijin task the other day and am wondering if anybody here knows some good spots to climb off the top of their head Maybe you could get to my ear and then go down the back of my neck and to my shoulder... Don't mince mah words Anyways thanks for the tips everyone. I rather prefer the mobility on a Carnage as well compared to the Raijin, but I wanted to experiment and try something new for FUN! To try out different angles on the maps that I hadn't access to before. I'll definitely be messing around with it on Moon for sure.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Nov 7, 2017 15:11:57 GMT -5
Just finished the Raijin task the other day and am wondering if anybody here knows some good spots to climb off the top of their head, as well as how this function works in general. Advice would be appreciated. For humors sake, just drop into a custom match by yourself and try stuff. But ffs remember, you're supposed to be shooting people, not 「wee-wee」ing around climbing 「dookie」.
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Post by masebot on Nov 7, 2017 15:24:58 GMT -5
I don't have a Raijin! I need a Raijin!
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Post by elcheapo on Nov 7, 2017 17:35:34 GMT -5
As a veteran Raijin pilot , my advice about climbing is don't waste your time climbing . Your job soldier is to kill robots , take beacons and sit your butt down in the middle of protected center points in Springfield , moon , and yamantau
BANZAI Raijin !!!
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Post by AVC on Nov 7, 2017 17:44:16 GMT -5
IRL, the high ground wins.No doubt. I have found in War Robots the high ground is like putting yourself on show for everyone to shoot at. I dont have a Rajin (yet, two more days and I will), but every Griff pilot who goes for high ground just paints a massive bulleye on himself (or herself), especially the centre of Powerplant. The only exception to this is the bendy roof on Shenzhen. Due to it's size Griffs can shoot and scoot by backing off a bit into cover. But if you have height plus you're out of range (maybe using trebs) it may well work. I have seen them many times on the dam wall in Springfield trebbing away and pretty much out of range of most everyone
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 8, 2017 6:13:00 GMT -5
I have found in War Robots the high ground is like putting yourself on show for everyone to shoot at. This. Robots have so much firepower, you'll go down very easily if you don't use cover. This is a game of paper rock scissors, and any successful pilot relies on picking the right matchups. Climbing clearly advertises that you have [rock], inviting all [paper] reds to hunt you while warning the [scissors] reds to stay away. (Well, or it used to be this way before we had Shocktrain Dash madness.) IMO climbing is only a good option if you're running a sniper, and have the physical shield block other sniper fire.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 19:53:04 GMT -5
IRL, the high ground wins.No doubt. I have found in War Robots the high ground is like putting yourself on show for everyone to shoot at. I dont have a Rajin (yet, two more days and I will), but every Griff pilot who goes for high ground just paints a massive bulleye on himself (or herself), especially the centre of Powerplant. The only exception to this is the bendy roof on Shenzhen. Due to it's size Griffs can shoot and scoot by backing off a bit into cover. But if you have height plus you're out of range (maybe using trebs) it may well work. I have seen them many times on the dam wall in Springfield trebbing away and pretty much out of range of most everyone I find this holds true. The high ground is still very important in this game, and I try to use it whenever possible. This was one of the reasons why the Raijin was nerfed. It could climb on top of everything, and gain a huge advantage. I used to stay alive the entire match with that thing and get 600-700K dmg with minimal scratches. Most don't even notice you're there, so you can just keep shooting at them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 20:05:33 GMT -5
I have a post on Raijin climbing. The fighting part is kinda old now, because they nerfed the Raijin a week after I posted it. Yeah, I climbed pretty much on top of everything back in the day. If you can see it, you can climb it. Not anymore. Haven't bothered to run it much anymore. They keep on nerfing things. war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/7553/raijinThat is... a seriously extensive guide for climbing. How much of it was nerfed? I was taking a break from War Robots when that happened. I climbed everything, I tried to reach everything and was successful most of the time. Sometimes it took days, before I got the right angle and figured it out. I even scaled the vertical buildings on Shenzhen. This was the hardest to do, and not practical during a match. I think they nerfed this, but I can't be sure since it was so hard to begin with. I didn't have custom mode back in the day, so I had to do it during live matches. I spent a week or so just climbing. So I don't want to bother again. So I don't know what's changed since I was really mad after the nerf. Climbing was one of its stated abilities, so it doesn't make sense to nerf one of its abilities. After that Raijin post, I don't share as much on here anymore because the Pixo spies are watching this forum. At least if it's what I consider clan secrets, meaning I will only share it with members of my clan. They have nerfed several things a week after I posted about it. I will share general tips and advice.
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Post by moolamu on Nov 9, 2017 0:14:19 GMT -5
For high ground to serve any purpose, it needs to be big enough for a bot to back off and use the ledge as a one-way cover.
A Griff jumping on top of a building the size of its own foot-print is just silly.
The Raijin brings his own cover so he's fine.
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Post by Estoplast on Nov 13, 2017 18:10:37 GMT -5
And all i wanted to say is, that black spider with Zeuses looks 「deteriorated bum-bum」.
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