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Post by borisbaddenov on Nov 1, 2017 10:03:53 GMT -5
Hi Are there resources that ya'll can point me to that will help me become a better pilot? I've watched some of Adrian's YouTube - but he's bots and weapons are all maxed, and I can't help but think that is an advantage. There must be some "help" for new-ish pilots like myself. My bots are mostly L8 and they mostly have L8 or L9 weapons. I am in Diamond II - and I lose a LOT. I'm so bad I don't even know where to start. Any hints? Thanks! Boris
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Post by _psychø on Nov 1, 2017 10:24:56 GMT -5
Maybe you should show us your hanger so we could help you better?
However some of the best things you can do are:
Using cover A LOT and anytime, you anything as a cover, and I mean Anything, but don't be hiding behind a thin pole when you're being attacked by Tridents. Always keep your weapons reloaded after engagement, you don't want to engage again with half a clip. Don't rush at anything especially the beacons in Beacon Rush. Don't chase enemies, they could be leading you to an ambush. Cornershoot a lot when you can to avoid taking damage but don't try to when someone is trying to kill you with rockets. Stick to the walls to avoid getting hit by a surprising Aphid attack or Hydras. Don't jump when you see a red with trebs or Zeus if you use Griffin or a jumping bot, they might be waiting for you. Always try to see what your enemy is using to understand their weapons range and stay out of it. Don't stick to your teammates to not get hit by rockets when someone is firing at your mate. - Capture beacons. Keep your hanger leveled up. Be patient.
Good luck!
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Post by GuitarGuy on Nov 1, 2017 10:47:11 GMT -5
Hi Are there resources that ya'll can point me to that will help me become a better pilot? I've watched some of Adrian's YouTube - but he's bots and weapons are all maxed, and I can't help but think that is an advantage. There must be some "help" for new-ish pilots like myself. My bots are mostly L8 and they mostly have L8 or L9 weapons. I am in Diamond II - and I lose a LOT. I'm so bad I don't even know where to start. Any hints? Thanks! Boris Sure Adrian is maxed. But the people he plays against ( Like me) are Maxed too and he never fails to impress with his skills. Adrian has excellent situational awareness and is extremely patient. Those tactics rule regardless of tier. The key to improving is understanding the dominance bar, beacon control and the all important Close Quarter Combat. Range is fun, but learning how to use cover and effectively corner shoot will take you much farther in the game then sniping in my opinion. Start at the beginning. Look at your hangar. how many slots is it? how much range do you carry in it? The tough spot is when you have to be honest with yourself, can this loadout capture and hold a beacon? If the answer is no, then reassess why its there. There are lots of videos out there on tactics, I feel one of the best ways to learn is being on voice coms with someone way better than you and have then show you stuff. Even if its a custom match and you dont get any rewards the knowledge you gain will be invaluable.
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 1, 2017 11:03:26 GMT -5
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Post by Estoplast on Nov 1, 2017 11:09:21 GMT -5
Movement plus using team, surroundings and opportunities. Of the more popular youtubers besides Adrian i suggest Predator. Also from Vox. I have not browsed youtubers very much, but i think he is one of the best i have seen. Blitheran can move well also. A bit arrogant and maybe too aggressive style of play for some taste, but thats OK. And mr Stew Pendous is just sorta cool guy who kinda seamlessly somehow plays quite well. And he often explains things. Dynamics of the game change quite often, so you have to filter relevant data. Core basics are still the same as any that type of play. No doubt, there are much better players out there, but i have not bothered with search. Since they have quite a lot of videos i somehow have stumbled upon them.
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Post by stokr on Nov 1, 2017 11:23:17 GMT -5
Movement plus using team, surroundings and opportunities. Of the more popular youtubers besides Adrian i suggest Predator. Also from Vox. I have not browsed youtubers very much, but i think he is one of the best i have seen. Blitheran can move well also. A bit arrogant and maybe too aggressive style of play for some taste, but thats OK. And mr Stew Pendous is just sorta cool guy who kinda seamlessly somehow plays quite well. And he often explains things. Dynamics of the game change quite often, so you have to filter relevant data. Core basics are still the same as any that type of play. No doubt, there are much better players out there, but i have not bothered with search. Since they have quite a lot of videos i somehow have stumbled upon them. Predator is my favorite choice for vids. I also found the few Nix made very helpful.
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Post by F-A-H-Q on Nov 1, 2017 11:36:34 GMT -5
Get in a clan. Squads are where strategy is developed, which does translate to solo play. In reference to Adrian, he is an excellent team player, when I play against his clan it is almost frightening how well they play as a team. Why learn this? Well, no matter solo or in squad you are on a team. Learning how to recognize what to do, where to go, and how to partner with others is the key to success in this game. Unless you are a freak of nature, it is always best to be with a partner. Many load outs are killed most efficiently by 2 bots focusing fire on them. Same holds true for holding a beacon. As Guitar Guy mentioned, cover and situational awareness is key. Know where the reds are, know what their load out is, and know when to wait and when to attack. You can learn this by squadding in a clan. Listen to your clan mates, many of them have more experience than you, and I get the sense you want to learn.
In regards to your hanger, do not mix ranges. Do not make a bot that does everything (example, a gekko, punisher, taran, tulumba griff). These load outs essentially do nothing.
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Post by The VVatcher on Nov 1, 2017 13:30:42 GMT -5
Get your stuff leveled up. You wana get everything to 9 by Diamond 1. And level 10 by the time you get to Expert. That will help immensely.
But first step is to get hangar advice from the good people here. That way you will know which stuff you should proceed to level.
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Post by maverick on Nov 1, 2017 15:12:52 GMT -5
Get your stuff leveled up. You wana get everything to 9 by Diamond 1. And level 10 by the time you get to Expert. That will help immensely. But first step is to get hangar advice from the good people here. That way you will know which stuff you should proceed to level. No wonder I keep getting blown away, I'm in Expert and struggling, most of my bots are level 7 and weapons from 6 - 10. I upgrade as quick as I can (not using gold) but it's a long slow process.
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Post by MΞCHДИISΓIC on Nov 1, 2017 15:44:30 GMT -5
Great advice so far and you are already on the right track by coming to the forums for info. People mention situational awareness. Pay attention to the arrows on the side of the screen marking reds and blues. They are hugely useful. I thinking the biggest thing that improved my game when I was new was really learning the ranges of all weapons so you can work the boundaries to your advantage and make good decisions on targets.
Edit- just noticed you”re in expert so I am sure you have the basics. I agree with the post calling for hangar advice. Post your profile
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Post by crazynutz on Nov 1, 2017 20:26:43 GMT -5
I got some advise for you. Get out your wallet and drop about $1500. Next thing you'll notice 1.3 mill max damage with an average around 800000. No problem right?
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Post by metal on Nov 2, 2017 5:09:51 GMT -5
Stew pendous and Manni are the best referral if you are looking for non maxed player.
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Post by TravLar on Nov 2, 2017 5:48:35 GMT -5
Well OP, you've got plenty of good advice above!
I've learnt so much here I'll always be grateful. Load-outs, hangars, how spend resources, handling different leagues and so on.
I like to watch the end of the match if I've mech-out, especially if there's a red who was really problematic during the game or if a player was doing well with I load-out I use. What spots does he choose, what targets, what's his technique, etc... I learnt a lot that way.
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 2, 2017 6:14:55 GMT -5
Get your stuff leveled up. You wana get everything to 9 by Diamond 1. And level 10 by the time you get to Expert. That will help immensely. But first step is to get hangar advice from the good people here. That way you will know which stuff you should proceed to level. No wonder I keep getting blown away, I'm in Expert and struggling, most of my bots are level 7 and weapons from 6 - 10. I upgrade as quick as I can (not using gold) but it's a long slow process. Stock heavy AG robots at level 7 will get you to Champion on facebook gameroom, easily. RDB Griffin, PDB Griffin, Thunder Punisher Leo, that's all you need there. Such statements should be taken with a grain of salt. Lineups that are Champion on FB or Amazon would be low Silver on Android and Gold on iOS.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Nov 2, 2017 6:27:43 GMT -5
Hi Are there resources that ya'll can point me to that will help me become a better pilot? I've watched some of Adrian's YouTube - but he's bots and weapons are all maxed, and I can't help but think that is an advantage. There must be some "help" for new-ish pilots like myself. My bots are mostly L8 and they mostly have L8 or L9 weapons. I am in Diamond II - and I lose a LOT. I'm so bad I don't even know where to start. Any hints? Thanks! Boris Recognize that you are already ahead of 80% of the playing population simply because you are blaming your tactics, not your hangar. It stuns me how much we talk about bots and weapons but rarely mention tactics. Already some great tips here. Here is a few extra. Don't chase your losses. This is HUGE. So many people chase losses in this game. If someone kills you, forget about exacting revenge. If the beacon you wanted doesn't get flipped or you lose control, don't just charge back to it Assess the battle without ego or frustration. Stay cool! Team up. I first hit diamond with a 3 bot 6/7 hangar and was getting CREAMED. I turned this around by never venturing out alone and picking another player who looked liked they knew what they were doing and helped them out. This does not mean shadowing them all the time, you want to split up and hit the targets they hit from a different angle (most of the time). At the same time never be afraid to hitch a ride behind a tarancilot It's a bloody long way across SF, Yama or Canyon when you are desperately underleveled. Plan your hangar and be frugal. Have an EXACT plan for your hangar and keep chipping away. Don't waste a single resource, ever.
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Post by Estoplast on Nov 2, 2017 6:41:59 GMT -5
Plan your hangar and be frugal. Have an EXACT plan for your hangar and keep chipping away. Don't waste a single resource, ever. That's some good advice right there.
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Post by SuperHero on Nov 2, 2017 6:50:45 GMT -5
Greetings Boris.
Before anything, I'd actually suggest posting your hangar here for folks to comment on. They might be brutal and perhaps give conflicting suggestions, but most of it will be decent advice.
Just saying your bots and weapon levels is not enough because you could even say you're maxed but only have 5 Level 12 Cossacks. Even the tactics being suggested by the wise folks here will be for nothing if you are using a Level 9 Natasha with a Molot/Thunder/Nashorn/Noricum.
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 2, 2017 6:53:17 GMT -5
Lots of good advice here on how to get better. I've learned a lot too ever since I joined. But, here's my advice. If you want to have fun, and continue to have fun for a long time in this game, explore, explore, explore. Use the tips here so that you don't waste too much time/silver/gold while you're exploring. But I find I have tons of fun just messing around on my own. I don't squad much, and I'm just part of a clan simply to be part of a clan. Find your groove and get into your comfort zone. I'm going back and forth between D2 and D3 these days, and I'm running a mostly 8/8 light and medium hangar. Why? Because I find light and medium bots to be more fun to play for me. D2 and D3 is a good place for me too, but I guess when my stuff starts getting to be level 9, I'll probably have to start trying to get into D1 to avoid clubbing too many seals.
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Post by killmall420 on Nov 2, 2017 6:53:20 GMT -5
Why do you go up so fast? Stay in gold league tell yourready to move up lvl 7 8 or 9 your to weak. To more up it just get harder to win . when event going on stay as low as you can when you get kill in event just kill no beacon then when you get beacons just do beacon use fast Bots die fast move on then when you get win team up with clan just 1 or guys to time with this is the best way to get the task's to me in game right now no need to move up to many new not and weapons till your hanger is strong
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Post by Uhnonimis on Nov 2, 2017 6:54:55 GMT -5
Read Musashi's 'A Book of Five Rings'. It is a classic by the most famous swordsman of medieval Japan. Understanding its application to War Robots will both help you with your tactics and with attaining a mindset conducive to success.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Nov 2, 2017 7:03:12 GMT -5
Why do you go up so fast? Stay in gold league tell yourready to move up lvl 7 8 or 9 your to weak. To more up it just get harder to win . when event going on stay as low as you can when you get kill in event just kill no beacon then when you get beacons just do beacon use fast Bots die fast move on then when you get win team up with clan just 1 or guys to time with this is the best way to get the task's to me in game right now no need to move up to many new not and weapons till your hanger is strong I personally disagree with this. I have always played above my weighr and am a MUCH better player for it. The higher the league, the more advanced the tactics. Playing in a lower league will not prepare you for the tactics used higher up! If you can do ok underleveled, and stick it out. As you get better loadouts, you'll have the skills and experience to get the most out of them.
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Post by borisbaddenov on Nov 2, 2017 7:57:03 GMT -5
First photo are the bots and weapons I am currently taking into battle. Second hangar shows additional mechs in the garage, and a few additional weapons. I th8nk I left out a Galahad with L9 Plasma. I have 18000 WSP saved up. I was thinking weapons for the Fury
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Nov 2, 2017 9:19:24 GMT -5
First photo are the bots and weapons I am currently taking into battle. Second hangar shows additional mechs in the garage, and a few additional weapons. I th8nk I left out a Galahad with L9 Plasma. I have 18000 WSP saved up. I was thinking weapons for the Fury You are doing really well and have made some good choices. Do you have a favourite? That fury and zeuses are GOLD when you are struggling. I scored a Fury and 3 zeuses in an event and it utterly changed the game for me in diamond. I put all my resources into levelling those zeuses to L10 and getting my fury to L9 because you need as much speed as you can get. In really tough battles your on a lot of maps that Fury is what kept me in the game and off the bottom of the damage table I'd like to know which setups you love before giving more advice but you should definitely make getting a third Zeus and leveling up a Zeus Fury your top priority. I'd also be looking at converting one of those Griffs to plasma. PDB still play well and can really hold a Haechi up (Do not jump if you haven't seen him dash in the last 30 seconds unless it's into solid cover)
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 2, 2017 9:25:11 GMT -5
The higher the league, the more advanced the tactics. Playing in a lower league will not prepare you for the tactics used higher up! If you can do ok underleveled, and stick it out. As you get better loadouts, you'll have the skills and experience to get the most out of them. Actually, it's surprising what you can do shorthanded. My usual Android hangar is level 10, recently dropped to Diamond 1. I tried to set up a 6-pack hangar with everything level 4 to 6 and only 2 heavy robots. Ran this for a few battles, won and ended up top 3 in damage in most of them, going against level 10 competition. If you know you have the weaker robots you will often be extra careful, which helps your battle skills enormously.
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Post by frunobulax on Nov 2, 2017 9:29:05 GMT -5
First photo are the bots and weapons I am currently taking into battle. Second hangar shows additional mechs in the garage, and a few additional weapons. I th8nk I left out a Galahad with L9 Plasma. I have 18000 WSP saved up. I was thinking weapons for the Fury I'm thinking Zeus Gekko Natty. You do have 2 Zeus and the Gekkos. Natty is on par with Zeus Fury DPS-wise and much cheaper and quicker to upgrade (7 days and 25 million to level 12, compared to 16 days and over 60 million for the Fury). Plus, you get added range with the Gekkos. And if you're not sure if you can hit a target behind cover, "feel" with a Gekko, if the red cross appears for a hit then go for that red button.
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Nov 2, 2017 9:33:39 GMT -5
The higher the league, the more advanced the tactics. Playing in a lower league will not prepare you for the tactics used higher up! If you can do ok underleveled, and stick it out. As you get better loadouts, you'll have the skills and experience to get the most out of them. Actually, it's surprising what you can do shorthanded. My usual Android hangar is level 10, recently dropped to Diamond 1. I tried to set up a 6-pack hangar with everything level 4 to 6 and only 2 heavy robots. Ran this for a few battles, won and ended up top 3 in damage in most of them, going against level 10 competition. If you know you have the weaker robots you will often be extra careful, which helps your battle skills enormously. Spot on, you can't rely on damage to save you so you MUST pick the right target at the right time. It was when I was getting smashed in diamond I mastered peering around corners, knowing the range of EVERY red on the map from me as well as collecting as much information as possible on what exactly they had in the field and responding accordingly. Now that I've got some bigger guns I still maintain the same awareness. Mentally I think about "Big kill / Little Kill". A big kill is a kill you MUST make to win the game, protecting or stealing an important beacon or stopping a monster red, it means I am mentally ok with losing or crippling my bot to get it done. A little kill is your normal play for damage or just general brawling, to score a little kill I am only willing to sacrifice 20% health MAX to get it done and use patience and discipline to get it right. All that thinking came from playing under-leveled and having to know exactly what I'm walking into
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Post by mechtout on Nov 2, 2017 9:38:02 GMT -5
Op has too much mid and long range to get wins imo. Get more tarans and orkans so you can close in to take back beacons
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Post by borisbaddenov on Nov 2, 2017 9:40:29 GMT -5
First photo are the bots and weapons I am currently taking into battle. Second hangar shows additional mechs in the garage, and a few additional weapons. I th8nk I left out a Galahad with L9 Plasma. I have 18000 WSP saved up. I was thinking weapons for the Fury You are doing really well and have made some good choices. Do you have a favourite? That fury and zeuses are GOLD when you are struggling. I scored a Fury and 3 zeuses in an event and it utterly changed the game for me in diamond. I put all my resources into levelling those zeuses to L10 and getting my fury to L9 because you need as much speed as you can get. In really tough battles your on a lot of maps that Fury is what kept me in the game and off the bottom of the damage table I'd like to know which setups you love before giving more advice but you should definitely make getting a third Zeus and leveling up a Zeus Fury your top priority. I'd also be looking at converting one of those Griffs to plasma. PDB still play well and can really hold a Haechi up (Do not jump if you haven't seen him dash in the last 30 seconds unless it's into solid cover) My favorite bots are probably the Lance and the Rogatka. I like the Lance because it seems like it can really take a beating, and I like the Rog cuz it moves well. I can have a Plasma Griffin - but one of the Tarans would only be L5 for now. I have a total of 9 Level 9 Magnums left over from way back when Mag/Geppards were the thing. I do have the gold for a 3rd Zeus - but was leaning towards WSP weapons for the Fury - not sure which of the two to select yet
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Post by FlashAhAhh on Nov 2, 2017 9:40:30 GMT -5
First photo are the bots and weapons I am currently taking into battle. Second hangar shows additional mechs in the garage, and a few additional weapons. I th8nk I left out a Galahad with L9 Plasma. I have 18000 WSP saved up. I was thinking weapons for the Fury I'm thinking Zeus Gekko Natty. You do have 2 Zeus and the Gekkos. Natty is on par with Zeus Fury DPS-wise and much cheaper and quicker to upgrade (7 days and 25 million to level 12, compared to 16 days and over 60 million for the Fury). Plus, you get added range with the Gekkos. And if you're not sure if you can hit a target behind cover, "feel" with a Gekko, if the red cross appears for a hit then go for that red button. And this is where to OP needs to make his own decisions. I personally don't like the natty build. The beauty of Zeus is that whopping burst. You can hit, hide, hit. hide, it's totally possible to take down plasma bots INSIDE their range once you master the 5 second turn in and out of cover. Natty has to spend a lot more time outdoors to get those gekkos hitting. The gekkos on the Natty also aren't elevated so natty has to expose her chest above cover to fire them, whereas the zues can just pop his weapons over the top and be immune to hits and there are a LOT of good spots to do this. That being said, you aren't wrong in anyway in what you said or for recommending it. This one is pure personal preference.
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Post by islandmojo671 on Nov 2, 2017 23:11:21 GMT -5
I learned alot from watching manni,stew pendous,foggy 1 gaming, and adriannnnnnn. patience is the key and shooting before red rounds a corner helped me alot. Also to reload before ingaging the enemy. got caught so many time jumping infront of a red with no ammo....lol
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