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Post by kyle000 on Oct 26, 2017 7:13:15 GMT -5
I leave the game immediately. Period.
I don't care if the Ember dude is blue or red, I don't care if this is going to get me into LQ, I will leave the game, and hopefully break the game.
Stupidest weapon ever. Penetrate both physical and energy shields? Pffftt! What kind of sorcery is this? Where is the strategy then?
Physical shield should hold up against flamethrower. Else why do all the dragonslaying knights hold a large as*s shield in one hand while fighting again fire breathing dragons. Learn your facts Pixo.
If they are not planning to nerf this stupid weapon, I will continue to leave the game, and hopefully frustrate other players while doing so.
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Post by zeframmann on Oct 26, 2017 7:17:17 GMT -5
Enjoy getting your posterior hammered in the LQ.
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Post by zigzak0110 on Oct 26, 2017 7:17:52 GMT -5
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Post by cypho on Oct 26, 2017 7:23:51 GMT -5
I'm not sure that actual, real world, physics has a huge amount to do with the game. It's not a simulator, it's a game. Pix can make a weapon or bot do whatever they want, as long as we all know what that is and can plan accordingly.
Do you quit when you see any energy weapon being used - coz they're not real either.
Quit matches for whatever reason you want, but that one seems a bit lame.
P.S. In case you're wondering, I don't have an Ember!
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Post by kyle000 on Oct 26, 2017 7:24:30 GMT -5
Enjoy getting your posterior hammered in the LQ. So far I am only encountering around 1 - 2 ember user in 10 matches. I am in Expert league. So, not going to go into LQ anytime soon. I don't believe leaving 1 - 2 matches out of 10 will get me into LQ. But if ember is becoming prevalent enough at my league, I hope LQ will be more fun then. Well as long as they have lesser ember user in LQ :/
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Post by kyle000 on Oct 26, 2017 7:26:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure that actual, real world, physics has a huge amount to do with the game. It's not a simulator, it's a game. Pix can make a weapon or bot do whatever they want, as long as we all know what that is and can plan accordingly. Do you quit when you see any energy weapon being used - coz they're not real either. Quit matches for whatever reason you want, but that one seems a bit lame. P.S. In case you're wondering, I don't have an Ember! No I just leave the game for ember. I just think it is stupid to have a weapon that penetrates both physical and energy shields. What is the strategy around this weapon? Own one and you own the world?
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Post by cypho on Oct 26, 2017 7:33:20 GMT -5
I'm not sure that actual, real world, physics has a huge amount to do with the game. It's not a simulator, it's a game. Pix can make a weapon or bot do whatever they want, as long as we all know what that is and can plan accordingly. Do you quit when you see any energy weapon being used - coz they're not real either. Quit matches for whatever reason you want, but that one seems a bit lame. P.S. In case you're wondering, I don't have an Ember! No I just leave the game for ember. I just think it is stupid to have a weapon that penetrates both physical and energy shields. What is the strategy around this weapon? Own one and you own the world? There is no arguing the Ember is over powered, but that's the game now. Either pay ridiculous sums of money to have the best kit, or don't and do one of three things: 1. Accept it, soldier on and likely get very frustrated 2. change your playing style and hangar to steer clear of top tier and play against similarly matched bots 3. quit the game altogether Personally, I like number two best. What you're doing will likely land you in LQ, where I am guessing you'll see even more embers than you currently do.
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Post by ezekielcrow on Oct 26, 2017 7:45:39 GMT -5
Personally, when I encounter someone with an OP item. I jump in my trusty Ork Rog and show the other pilot why he needs it.
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Post by drone42 on Oct 26, 2017 7:50:23 GMT -5
No I just leave the game for ember. I just think it is stupid to have a weapon that penetrates both physical and energy shields. What is the strategy around this weapon? Own one and you own the world? Own one and find yourself the target of every long range or mid-range weapon? Yes, the Ember is a nasty weapon. I’ve only come up against one once, and unfortunately I was in a Thunder Raijin. However, let’s take a look at a few things. - Ember Lancelot. Yes, it’s deadly. Yes, it has physical shields. But if you have an Ember, you don’t have an Ancile, so anyone with mid-range splash is going to have a field day against you, and anyone with Molots/Punishers isn’t going to be that unhappy either. On open maps on TDM or Domination, you’re probably dead. - Ember Leo. Tonne of health and a few light weapons as back-up. But no shields, fairly slow, and no access to Orkans/Tarans. - Ember Raijin. Good luck getting into range with full health on anything but Beacon Rush. Powerful if you can ambush someone, but probably rocket-fodder on most maps at higher tiers. - Ember Carnage. Possibly very, very deadly. But if you’re in range to use the Embers, the enemy is in range with plasma and has already been in range with Zeus/Trebs/Gekkos, all of which are nightmare-inducing for Carnages. - Ember Fury. If it gets in range, it will massacre anything except maybe a good Dash pilot. But it’s slow and bulky, and is going to be a rather high priority target. - Ember Natasha. Basically the same as the Ember Fury, but cheaper and gives more options with the light slots as well, although less brutal damage. - Ember Vityaz/Golem/Boa. I’d love to see one of these, even if it wrecks me. But if you’re crying about any loadout on a Medium Ag bot, then that seems a little ridiculous, no? - Ember Schutze. Funny idea, but not something we’re going to see. And I’m sure the hilarity of being killed by a Schutze is the annoyance of dying in that case. - Ember Butch. Not sure on the reload/cycle times, but might be able to do good damage if the times match up. However it’s fairly slow and apparently fairly fragile, so not a great bot to be diving into close-range with. - Ember Inquisitor. Probably the only bot that makes the Ember seem OP. Yes, it no longer has the shields a Lancelot would have. But stealth and jump means it is probably more likely to make it into combat with more health, and the stealth is a nightmare in a firefight. So yes, an Ember-wielding bot will cause a hell of a lot of damage under the right circumstances. But it’s limited to a few builds if you want to make the most of it, and there are ways to outplay those builds. It’s new, it’s scary, it’s powerful. But there will be counter-tactics. But look on the bright side: it can’t be mounted on a Dash bot.
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Post by Dredd77 on Oct 26, 2017 7:55:01 GMT -5
No I just leave the game for ember. I just think it is stupid to have a weapon that penetrates both physical and energy shields. What is the strategy around this weapon? Own one and you own the world? Own one and find yourself the target of every long range or mid-range weapon? Yes, the Ember is a nasty weapon. I’ve only come up against one once, and unfortunately I was in a Thunder Raijin. However, let’s take a look at a few things. - Ember Lancelot. Yes, it’s deadly. Yes, it has physical shields. But if you have an Ember, you don’t have an Ancile, so anyone with mid-range splash is going to have a field day against you, and anyone with Molots/Punishers isn’t going to be that unhappy either. On open maps on TDM or Domination, you’re probably dead. - Ember Leo. Tonne of health and a few light weapons as back-up. But no shields, fairly slow, and no access to Orkans/Tarans. - Ember Raijin. Good luck getting into range with full health on anything but Beacon Rush. Powerful if you can ambush someone, but probably rocket-fodder on most maps at higher tiers. - Ember Carnage. Possibly very, very deadly. But if you’re in range to use the Embers, the enemy is in range with plasma and has already been in range with Zeus/Trebs/Gekkos, all of which are nightmare-inducing for Carnages. - Ember Fury. If it gets in range, it will massacre anything except maybe a good Dash pilot. But it’s slow and bulky, and is going to be a rather high priority target. - Ember Natasha. Basically the same as the Ember Fury, but cheaper and gives more options with the light slots as well, although less brutal damage. - Ember Vityaz/Golem/Boa. I’d love to see one of these, even if it wrecks me. But if you’re crying about any loadout on a Medium Ag bot, then that seems a little ridiculous, no? - Ember Schutze. Funny idea, but not something we’re going to see. And I’m sure the hilarity of being killed by a Schutze is the annoyance of dying in that case. - Ember Butch. Not sure on the reload/cycle times, but might be able to do good damage if the times match up. However it’s fairly slow and apparently fairly fragile, so not a great bot to be diving into close-range with. - Ember Inquisitor. Probably the only bot that makes the Ember seem OP. Yes, it no longer has the shields a Lancelot would have. But stealth and jump means it is probably more likely to make it into combat with more health, and the stealth is a nightmare in a firefight. So yes, an Ember-wielding bot will cause a hell of a lot of damage under the right circumstances. But it’s limited to a few builds if you want to make the most of it, and there are ways to outplay those builds. It’s new, it’s scary, it’s powerful. But there will be counter-tactics. But look on the bright side: it can’t be mounted on a Dash bot. Great take. When I got mine I slapped them on a Fury, and while yes, you ladle out the damage, you don't tend to stick around long enough to really contribute to the match. I'm down to running just one now, on the Inquisitor.
I've reeeeally thought about trying Boa or- yes- Schutze though.
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Post by Refuse2GrowUp on Oct 26, 2017 8:15:56 GMT -5
Physical shield should hold up against flamethrower. Else why do all the dragonslaying knights hold a large as*s shield in one hand while fighting again fire breathing dragons. Learn your facts Pixo. Can't help but LOL. How many dragon slaying knights have you known?? Since there is no basis for a rational conversation here, I will simply point out that Shrek fought a dragon and had only a tin suit and a donkey Edit: Following your rationale, I will point out that a knife can penetrate kevlar, where as many small caliber bullets cannot. Yet, as the saying goes, you don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
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Post by vinceh on Oct 26, 2017 8:46:28 GMT -5
I understand the cry that ember is overpowered. It can be mitigated by staying behind cover more... Well. It makes Griff/Rog death button that much good.
It definitely sucks for the ancilot though. To think that I have just enjoyed mine for a couple of months...
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Post by darkknight on Oct 26, 2017 8:52:53 GMT -5
Keep a mid range bot ( grif with tumblas pins) and kill it from dist...griff with tumblas and pins could work in almost all maps I guess unless u are in too high league where it’s full of dashes specially ..works against kumiho ,bulgasari and inquisitor too if u keep a distance and play smartly
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Post by TravLar on Oct 26, 2017 9:01:04 GMT -5
Enjoy getting your posterior hammered in the LQ. No need to go into the leavers queue, don't just "Leave Game", you're not penalized for changing bots. Change bots to your last bot and fight to till he's killed, then you can leave the game. I don't fight with or against DIES (Dash, Inquisitor, Ember and Scourge) either. They're buying into Pix's BS and part of the problem.
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Post by ♧SGT FURY 24/7♧ on Oct 26, 2017 9:11:47 GMT -5
I go at them like any other red. They draw a lot of attention, too, so you'll have help unless you've wandered away by yourself somewhere. Even Forrest Gump knew that in combat it's not good to be alone. He went and found Bubba anyway tho.
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Post by TravLar on Oct 26, 2017 9:34:31 GMT -5
Personally, when I encounter someone with an OP item. I jump in my trusty Ork Rog and show the other pilot why he needs it. Gallant but wishful thinking. Taran Ember Inquisitor smoked my Rog long before his cloak ended. Haechi eats Rogs for breakfast. And you'll be lucky to land more than half your Orkans on Kumi and he hits you with the same loadout - if he even wants to fight, if he doesn't he'll be watching his tail disappear into the distance.
I admire the positive attitude but its not realistic. It takes two blues to take on an OP bot, that leaves 4 to take on the other five.
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Post by drone42 on Oct 26, 2017 14:01:09 GMT -5
Great take. When I got mine I slapped them on a Fury, and while yes, you ladle out the damage, you don't tend to stick around long enough to really contribute to the match. I'm down to running just one now, on the Inquisitor. I've reeeeally thought about trying Boa or- yes- Schutze though. Ember Schutze = return of the Death Ostrich? Ember/Taran Boa could actually be a good choice. Small profile makes it harder to hit, it has a lot of health, and it may have the element of surprise because most people don’t look at a Boa and worry about it being a major threat (in comparison to seeing a bot with an Ancile, or a bot that can jump/Dash). Ember/Taran/Magnum Golem might be quite good for corner-shooting the Ember, which could be fairly brutal.
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Post by hyderier on Oct 26, 2017 14:14:00 GMT -5
Ember Vityaz/Golem/Boa. I’d love to see one of these, even if it wrecks me. But if you’re crying about any loadout on a Medium Ag bot, then that seems a little ridiculous, no? I think exactly that was OPs point ;-) Ember-Magnum-Taran Golem. 206K HP. Full damage equivalent to Leo from 350M. Small target (for Thunders/Punishers). Medium speed. I would be worried...
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Post by inspirace on Oct 26, 2017 14:15:24 GMT -5
I leave the game immediately. Period. I don't care if the Ember dude is blue or red, I don't care if this is going to get me into LQ, I will leave the game, and hopefully break the game. Stupidest weapon ever. Penetrate both physical and energy shields? Pffftt! What kind of sorcery is this? Where is the strategy then? Physical shield should hold up against flamethrower. Else why do all the dragonslaying knights hold a large as*s shield in one hand while fighting again fire breathing dragons. Learn your facts Pixo. If they are not planning to nerf this stupid weapon, I will continue to leave the game, and hopefully frustrate other players while doing so. whatever the reason, you are ruining and wasting ~10min of eleven other people, by intentionally leaving a battle. I suggest just stop playing until Ember is nerfed to your satisfaction.
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Post by moflete on Oct 26, 2017 14:32:01 GMT -5
No I just leave the game for ember. I just think it is stupid to have a weapon that penetrates both physical and energy shields. What is the strategy around this weapon? Own one and you own the world? There is no arguing the Ember is over powered, but that's the game now. Either pay ridiculous sums of money to have the best kit, or don't and do one of three things: 1. Accept it, soldier on and likely get very frustrated 2. change your playing style and hangar to steer clear of top tier and play against similarly matched bots 3. quit the game altogether Personally, I like number two best. What you're doing will likely land you in LQ, where I am guessing you'll see even more embers than you currently do. 4. Pinch a couple of sausages and t-bones on your tridents / molots / punishers / trebs, approach the ember assassin, close enough to get them to your preferred cooking point, but not so close to also get your inners fried, and enjoy a bbq watching a nice fight.
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Post by drone42 on Oct 26, 2017 18:44:15 GMT -5
Ember Vityaz/Golem/Boa. I’d love to see one of these, even if it wrecks me. But if you’re crying about any loadout on a Medium Ag bot, then that seems a little ridiculous, no? I think exactly that was OPs point ;-) Ember-Magnum-Taran Golem. 206K HP. Full damage equivalent to Leo from 350M. Small target (for Thunders/Punishers). Medium speed. I would be worried... My point is that medium Ag bots have a tonne of disadvantages. None of them have built in physical shields or anciles. None of them have any special abilities. They have inferior firepower to heavy bots, but are worse at beacon-capping than most medium bots (and some heavy bots). With the exception of the Boa, most of them are fairly weak in terms of HP. If you’re complaining about them, then there’s probably something wrong, no matter the loadout they have.
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Post by 7iquid on Oct 26, 2017 19:01:07 GMT -5
I go at them like any other red. They draw a lot of attention, too, so you'll have help unless you've wandered away by yourself somewhere. Even Forrest Gump knew that in combat it's not good to be alone. He went and found Bubba anyway tho. Then he got shot in the burr-tocks.
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Post by anjian on Oct 26, 2017 19:13:21 GMT -5
Well I just got my first. I am thinking of putting it with my Leo.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 20:35:20 GMT -5
The first time I met an Ember, my Ancilot got melted and thought wow, this could be OP.
Then the 2nd, 3rd, 4th time I met one, I got not a scratch on me and killed it.
I thought this thing is a joke. Free $$ for me.
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Post by WilsonK on Oct 26, 2017 22:29:04 GMT -5
You could always stay out of 350m range.. Embers do melt, but you can hammer those ember-wielders too.
But if you do insist on dropping the match and not care if you end up in LQ, then good luck. Don't bend over too much, you'll just get rear-ended hard.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 22:37:23 GMT -5
I leave the game immediately. Period. I don't care if the Ember dude is blue or red, I don't care if this is going to get me into LQ, I will leave the game, and hopefully break the game. Stupidest weapon ever. Penetrate both physical and energy shields? Pffftt! What kind of sorcery is this? Where is the strategy then? Physical shield should hold up against flamethrower. Else why do all the dragonslaying knights hold a large as*s shield in one hand while fighting again fire breathing dragons. Learn your facts Pixo. If they are not planning to nerf this stupid weapon, I will continue to leave the game, and hopefully frustrate other players while doing so. ember aLong with scourge and shock train are the answers to the dashes domination! they have been done for that very purpose!
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Post by karlhungus on Oct 27, 2017 0:23:28 GMT -5
I know people keep joking about pix inventing a weapon that kills everyone on the field but 「fluffernutter」 me if they haven't actually done it. Fire off an ember and apparently half of you would quit!
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Post by ezekielcrow on Oct 27, 2017 0:41:39 GMT -5
Personally, when I encounter someone with an OP item. I jump in my trusty Ork Rog and show the other pilot why he needs it. Gallant but wishful thinking. Taran Ember Inquisitor smoked my Rog long before his cloak ended. Haechi eats Rogs for breakfast. And you'll be lucky to land more than half your Orkans on Kumi and he hits you with the same loadout - if he even wants to fight, if he doesn't he'll be watching his tail disappear into the distance.
I admire the positive attitude but its not realistic. It takes two blues to take on an OP bot, that leaves 4 to take on the other five.
I've been able to smoke several kumihos, a few haechis and one bulgasaur. Still waiting to encounter an inquisitor though. I'm definitely more lucky than good. But its a good rallying point for my team to see that theyre not as feared. Not by everyone. Yes, I get my but kicked. A fair share of killer moves I try result in me getting wrecked. I may not win, but if I play my cards and movements right,red OP pilot WILL remember our encounter.
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Oct 27, 2017 0:58:56 GMT -5
Stupidest weapon ever. Penetrate both physical and energy shields? Pffftt! What kind of sorcery is this? Where is the strategy then? . I think the ember is way OP, but if you are looking for realism, that's basically what a flamethrower would do. They (of Molotov cocktail bottles) are used against tanks because the liquid would infiltrate the armour somewhere and hopefully start an internal fire and it's arguable the flame wouldn't be bothered by an electromagnetic field. Now, modern tanks are much better protected than WW2 ones (most are supposedly air tight to withstand a chemical attack), but, in practice they are still vulnerable, especially after having been hit by non penetrating shots that might have shaken things a bit apart. Now, if we want to talk about the distance that flame can go and the absence of dispersion, then... yeah, sorcery.
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Post by nosinov on Oct 27, 2017 1:15:33 GMT -5
Need to start a petition, so Pix inserts a "leave match cause of Ember", without LQ penalty.
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