inspirace
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Post by inspirace on Oct 25, 2017 1:48:13 GMT -5
first shot:   I exchanged fire with the Taran Bugasari and lost ~24k hp while killing it, and took the second shot:   and the third shot hit from behind me through a blue Raijin to finish me. seeking cover to no avail. I thought at first a red Gekko Gep somehow sneaked into our home base (so fast??):  and this guy stayed in his Shcok-Haechi for almost the entire battle:   ... the damage burst is insane, didn’t take a half sec to remove >45K hp from me. no way to evade them unless you just hide within a ... Faraday box? and Pix is developing a weapon that goes through a cover/building/etc, right? sonic boom-kind of thing? |
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Post by ᥣᵃᵛᵃʲᵃᵛᵃ on Oct 25, 2017 1:57:35 GMT -5
Wow! Just wow. So Shocktrain Haechis to look forward to now, eh? Not seen one yet - I thought the Zeus Embers were awful (when red)!
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Post by NerFB on Oct 25, 2017 2:22:18 GMT -5
first shot: I exchanged fire with the Taran Bugasari and lost ~24k hp while killing it, and took the second shot: and the third shot hit from behind me through a blue Raijin to finish me. seeking cover to no avail. I thought at first a red Gekko Gep somehow sneaked into our home base (so fast??): and this guy stayed in his Shcok-Haechi for almost the entire battle: ... the damage burst is insane, didn’t take a half sec to remove >45K hp from me. no way to evade them unless you just hide within a ... Faraday box? and Pix is developing a weapon that goes through a cover/building/etc, right? sonic boom-kind of thing? I’m seriously impressed that you took screenshots in the middle of a fire fight like that. Just how much money is in that Hangar? Man, just get a life.... |
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Post by The VVatcher on Oct 25, 2017 2:22:42 GMT -5
Yeah these things are gona be a problem. Btw you can shield it though. Both the initial shot and the ricochet shots. This might be why I'm seeing more Galahads.
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inspirace
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Post by inspirace on Oct 25, 2017 2:26:05 GMT -5
first shot: I exchanged fire with the Taran Bugasari and lost ~24k hp while killing it, and took the second shot: and the third shot hit from behind me through a blue Raijin to finish me. seeking cover to no avail. I thought at first a red Gekko Gep somehow sneaked into our home base (so fast??): and this guy stayed in his Shcok-Haechi for almost the entire battle: ... the damage burst is insane, didn’t take a half sec to remove >45K hp from me. no way to evade them unless you just hide within a ... Faraday box? and Pix is developing a weapon that goes through a cover/building/etc, right? sonic boom-kind of thing? I’m seriously impressed that you took screenshots in the middle of a fire fight like that. Just how much money is in that Hangar? Man, just get a life.... I recorded the battle and took screenshots from the video  |
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Post by inspirace on Oct 25, 2017 2:30:06 GMT -5
Yeah these things are gona be a problem. Btw you can shield it though. Both the initial shot and the ricochet shots. This might be why I'm seeing more Galahads. yeah, I guess it can be blocked. just the dmg dealing is so fast, perhaps faster than Zeus zaps. and it can bend through teammates and hit from behind, like the third shot in the OP... |
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Post by fιяєfℓαмє on Oct 25, 2017 3:45:56 GMT -5
It's like a chain lazers or chain red gekkos. I've seen opponents using this on a galahad with magnums on springfield map, and a haechi with 1 shocktrain and 2 orkans.
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Post by _psychø on Oct 25, 2017 7:21:18 GMT -5
It seems like three maxed Shocks do similar damage to two Zeuses, except that the Zeus doesn't bounce from a bot to other, has shorter reload time and range, but I believe they'll buff it and turn it into a holy weapon because it costs 10k components and not 1500 Au.
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Post by zeframmann on Oct 25, 2017 7:44:39 GMT -5
I'm guessing they buffed the hell out of it since it went on the test server, because when I tried the bloody things a fully charged burst from three barely shaved 10% of a Griffin while taking longer to reach that point than a Trebuchet.
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Post by Domino on Oct 25, 2017 7:53:49 GMT -5
I'm guessing they buffed the hell out of it since it went on the test server, because when I tried the bloody things a fully charged burst from three barely shaved 10% of a Griffin while taking longer to reach that point than a Trebuchet. Does the Ember sound familiar, same thing. Sucked on TS, but live it's a monster. |
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Post by ezekielcrow on Oct 25, 2017 8:02:03 GMT -5
Awesome images! Good to get any info about shocktrain. Any idea if the ricochets will hit objects in the air?
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Post by TravLar on Oct 25, 2017 8:11:17 GMT -5
I also came across a Shocktrain Haechi, he was on my team. It makes quite a distracting sound but I guess you want to know its around. This guy ran it from beginning to end of match and did 900k+ damage. You'll see they're only level 8 which is worrying.
I thought it was totally unfair. That precious cover at Canyon? Useless. Watching 3 Reds carefully to fire and stay alive - and doing a great job of it? Pointless. Want Shocktrain requires you to do is: well that blue is about 50m away, plus that blue looks about 150m from him in LOS and then in LOS of him might be the guy firing the Shocktrain. So if I go... Where exactly? With no line of sight from the red to A, to B, to me? Come on!! What a load of wrap!
Pix has got Luck and Chance on the brain! Or they're building a juvenile version where you just point and shoot and enjoy the explosions and take the hits and whatever happens happens.
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Post by TravLar on Oct 25, 2017 8:13:16 GMT -5
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Post by NerFB on Oct 25, 2017 8:23:54 GMT -5
I'm guessing they buffed the hell out of it since it went on the test server, because when I tried the bloody things a fully charged burst from three barely shaved 10% of a Griffin while taking longer to reach that point than a Trebuchet. Yup, I’ve noticed a few weapons behave differently in Live to Test, looks like the step up from L8 to L12 transforms them. Scourage was “yawn, tell me when you’re finished tickling me” on Test, and takes chunks out of Kbots now. |
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Post by inspirace on Oct 25, 2017 10:04:58 GMT -5
It seems like three maxed Shocks do similar damage to two Zeuses, except that the Zeus doesn't bounce from a bot to other, has shorter reload time and range, but I believe they'll buff it and turn it into a holy weapon because it costs 10k components and not 1500 Au. more like three lvl12 Shocks fully charged (assuming that’s what hit me) do the damage of three lvl11 Zeuses (~45K) to the first target in chain alone.
so it’s like a Zeus Fury has an Ancile shield, runs, and dashes, in terms of the burst damage, plus it can hit additional targets, some even behind a cover. a Zeus Fury instead can hit more often (every 5 sec vs fully charging Shocks seem to take max 21sec, they can hit faster with less dmg if needed, like Trebs, like the third shot which took ~10sec) and may have a longer range (600m vs 500m) |
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Post by bronzeknee on Oct 25, 2017 10:52:42 GMT -5
We are fast approaching the point when there will be a $1,000 weapon that will just kill all the enemy Robots on the field instantly.
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Post by moflete on Oct 25, 2017 11:22:36 GMT -5
I thought by the first pic that you were being gekkoed and the thing had punched out your Griff's belly XD
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Post by blackhand7 on Oct 25, 2017 11:41:05 GMT -5
We are fast approaching the point when there will be a $1,000 weapon that will just kill all the enemy Robots on the field instantly. I was thinking the same thing.... smart bombs. Reload time = 5 seconds. |
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Post by ΜØØSE on Oct 25, 2017 12:17:51 GMT -5
We are fast approaching the point when there will be a $1,000 weapon that will just kill all the enemy Robots on the field instantly. ...and it takes little to no skill. At least before, we could rest on the thought that many of the whales lack skill and can be overcome with guile. So much for that. |
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Post by ᎶƦ℮℮ƊᎽ ƤΛƝƊΛ on Oct 25, 2017 14:01:39 GMT -5
I think I posted a couple weeks ago that this weapon on a Dash bot would be incredibly OP. Some people said I was crazy. Now imagine a clan with 6x Shocktrain Haechi. They’d basically kill your entire team in under 10sec and then spawn camp you.
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Post by noobcake on Oct 25, 2017 14:42:20 GMT -5
Yeah these things are gona be a problem. Btw you can shield it though. Both the initial shot and the ricochet shots. This might be why I'm seeing more Galahads. It isn't the shocktrain that is bringing the galahad back but plasma. The meta flipped from a 4:1 splash to plasma ratio to a 1:4 ratio after the release of dash bots. That's why the Lancelot has made a triumphant return in champion league and the Galahad is showing signs of coming back from the dead. |
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Post by Estoplast on Oct 25, 2017 14:53:55 GMT -5
Mr Manni from youtube said its much more op than Ember Fury
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Post by moflete on Oct 25, 2017 15:00:27 GMT -5
We are fast approaching the point when there will be a $1,000 weapon that will just kill all the enemy Robots on the field instantly. Yes, some spy pics reveal the development of a weapon consisting of a gigantic magnet that you can deploy 100 m above the reds spawn, so al re-spawning bots are automatically sucked by this gigantic plate while the blues enjoy some popcorn from across the field.... |
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Post by _psychø on Oct 25, 2017 15:22:41 GMT -5
It seems like three maxed Shocks do similar damage to two Zeuses, except that the Zeus doesn't bounce from a bot to other, has shorter reload time and range, but I believe they'll buff it and turn it into a holy weapon because it costs 10k components and not 1500 Au. more like three lvl12 Shocks fully charged (assuming that’s what hit me) do the damage of three lvl11 Zeuses (~45K) to the first target in chain alone.
so it’s like a Zeus Fury has an Ancile shield, runs, and dashes, in terms of the burst damage, plus it can hit additional targets, some even behind a cover. a Zeus Fury instead can hit more often (every 5 sec vs fully charging Shocks seem to take max 21sec, they can hit faster with less dmg if needed, like Trebs, like the third shot which took ~10sec) and may have a longer range (600m vs 500m) Still seems like the Zeus is better overall. |
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Post by zeframmann on Oct 25, 2017 17:33:08 GMT -5
I'm guessing they buffed the hell out of it since it went on the test server, because when I tried the bloody things a fully charged burst from three barely shaved 10% of a Griffin while taking longer to reach that point than a Trebuchet. Does the Ember sound familiar, same thing. Sucked on TS, but live it's a monster. And just just like the ember, this thing desperately needed another round on the test server that it didn't get. Basically one week, make a few changes, and then shove it out the door without seeing of the changes weren't too much. |
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Post by inspirace on Oct 25, 2017 17:40:51 GMT -5
more like three lvl12 Shocks fully charged (assuming that’s what hit me) do the damage of three lvl11 Zeuses (~45K) to the first target in chain alone.
so it’s like a Zeus Fury has an Ancile shield, runs, and dashes, in terms of the burst damage, plus it can hit additional targets, some even behind a cover. a Zeus Fury instead can hit more often (every 5 sec vs fully charging Shocks seem to take max 21sec, they can hit faster with less dmg if needed, like Trebs, like the third shot which took ~10sec) and may have a longer range (600m vs 500m) Still seems like the Zeus is better overall. Zeus is a heavy weapon. with Shocktrains, now a Haechi can carry a Zeus Fury’s burst dmg potential, plus chain-lightening capability ... |
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Post by Joopiter on Oct 25, 2017 18:49:00 GMT -5
We are fast approaching the point when there will be a $1,000 weapon that will just kill all the enemy Robots on the field instantly. I've said this before.... Pix at some point will create an EMP based weapon. Freezes reds for some terrible duration. You spend enough and get it, well then you can just kill at your leisure. |
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Post by islandmojo671 on Oct 25, 2017 20:03:29 GMT -5
I also came across a Shocktrain Haechi, he was on my team. It makes quite a distracting sound but I guess you want to know its around. This guy ran it from beginning to end of match and did 900k+ damage. You'll see they're only level 8 which is worrying.
I thought it was totally unfair. That precious cover at Canyon? Useless. Watching 3 Reds carefully to fire and stay alive - and doing a great job of it? Pointless. Want Shocktrain requires you to do is: well that blue is about 50m away, plus that blue looks about 150m from him in LOS and then in LOS of him might be the guy firing the Shocktrain. So if I go... Where exactly? With no line of sight from the red to A, to B, to me? Come on!! What a load of wrap!
Pix has got Luck and Chance on the brain! Or they're building a juvenile version where you just point and shoot and enjoy the explosions and take the hits and whatever happens happens.
thats it!! Im staying in silver & gold league if thats whats waiting for me in higher leagues. |
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Post by Dredd77 on Oct 25, 2017 21:01:34 GMT -5
I jammed three of these on a Bulgasari, and they're pretty solid. I like the noise they make, though it's hard to tell sometimes if the weapon chained or not. I disagree about the "easymode" concerns. Sure they may need to tinker with the balance, but spatial relationships are absolutely fair game for design space.
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Post by northempire on Oct 25, 2017 21:36:15 GMT -5
Holy trebusheet! The omega beams kills faster than an RDB!
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