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Post by arakos on Oct 18, 2017 16:25:05 GMT -5
Just made some maths. How much would cost 10k components of a particular item if I am to buy them using similar offers? 180 Kumiho components and 360 Haechi components for 900! gold = The Haechi would cost 25.200 gold! (and you would have 80 Haechi components and 5.040 Kumiho components left) - THIS OFFER WAS GREATLY IMPROVED THE SECOND DAY180 Kumiho components and 360 Haechi components for 3.200 WSP! = The Haechi would cost 89.600 WSP! (and you would have 80 Haechi components and 5.040 Kumiho components left, like above) - THIS OFFER WAS IMPROVED THE THIRD DAYYou need 28! offers like these to complete your bots PS: Darkangel and KaneoheGrown have completed the maths in a most complete and efficient way, take a look at their posts below. Thank you guys! 2nd PS: Offers are much better the second day. As an example, the gold offer for Haechi components (1.430 for 1k gold) is 3.575 times better. Same with WSP ones. Let's hope this continues this way  3rd PS: On third day the offers are better than first as well. Actually we can get the WSP offer above for exactly half price: 1.600 WSP 4th PS: Everyone please check noobcake's post, it summarizes offers costs vs profits |
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Post by bronzeknee on Oct 18, 2017 16:28:07 GMT -5
Well, hopefully you'll earn some in the BM too... but what else are you going to spend your WSP and AU on if you have everything you need anyway?
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Oct 18, 2017 16:30:43 GMT -5
I'm saving all my Au to build my very own Gepard hangar. Then I'll be unstoppable.  |
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Post by loki777 on Oct 18, 2017 16:31:08 GMT -5
I'd pay 89k so for a dashbot
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Post by kukurukukuk on Oct 18, 2017 16:33:09 GMT -5
They are thick.
And they only want our money.
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Oct 18, 2017 16:37:51 GMT -5
It's sick. 15K WSP for Rhinos and Raijins, and 10 times that much for a K-Bot. I'm sorry, but nothing imported from Korea is worth that much. I loved my Galaxy Note 7, and look how that turned out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 16:37:57 GMT -5
Already did the math at another thread. I'll copy and paste it here. If you wanted to get the Kumiho and a Haechi, you'd have to pay 50K gold If you wanted to get the Haechi and half a Kumiho, you'd have to pay 25K gold If you wanted to get a Tempest and 1/3 of a Bulgasari, you'd have to pay 10.5K gold If you wanted to get a Bulgasari and 3 and a half Tempests, you'd have to pay 35.7K gold If you wanted to get an Inquisitor and 12 Scourges, you'd have to pay 83.3K gold If you wanted to get a Scourge and 1/10 of an Inquisitor, you'd have to pay 7K gold If you wanted to get a Kumiho and 2 Haechis, you'd have to pay 180K WSP If you wanted to get a Haechi and 1/2 a Kumiho, you'd have to pay 90K WSP If you wanted to get a Tempest and 1/3 a Bulgasari, you'd have to pay 37.5K WSP If you wanted to get an Inquisitor and 12 Scourges, you'd have to pay 317K WSP If you wanted to get a Scourge and 1/10 of an Inquisitor, you'd have to pay 26.5 WSP Read more: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/15714/joke-wsp#ixzz4vtkIn35r |
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Oct 18, 2017 16:46:12 GMT -5
Just for giggles, I burned some WSP on the Tempest,Bulgasari component package. As I suspected, it was a one off deal. It immediately closed after I made the sale. I couldn't do a second, similar transaction even if I wanted to.
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Oct 18, 2017 16:51:08 GMT -5
Actually, for the pictures posted here, that doesn't seem to be in line with OP, but it would rather seem that they worked out an average 5:1 to 4:1 WSPs to Component ratio as a basis and, with the offers, that goes down to 3:1, which is much, much better than what I had hoped for. WHICH makes me think that the actual offers are not standard, but depending on the individual player (which is not at all surprising, all considered) and that all these calculations are futile. I'd suggest people starting to post offers and their tier and hangar level, to see if we can figure out how the offers are made. |
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Oct 18, 2017 17:01:21 GMT -5
Similar to Darkangel's calc. I just ran out Avg au and wsp generation per day (and conversion of Ag to Wsp).  |
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Post by shagot on Oct 18, 2017 17:04:15 GMT -5
I got some offers, for example 180 kumino/360 haechi, which equals to 88k wsp for 1 haechi, 1/5 kumino.
gold - same thing, 900 gold offer, 25K gold for 1 haechi, 1/5 kumino.
And offers are valid for 24 hours, even if I would go to invest gold/wsp, it would take some time to get new bot. lol, you are willing to spend fortune of gold, and have to wait one (1) ! month to get it!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 17:25:32 GMT -5
I'm curious if we will all get the same offers, or if the numbers will vary based on amounts of resources you own or hangar levels. Those conversion rates are okay I guess. Still expensive, but better pricing than buying them direct. There is a gold offer iirc for 24500 au for 99.99, so if someone utilized that, and then got enough component for gold type offers, they could in theory get a dash for $99.99. I take it no ember component offers have been seen yet? I hear (  ) it' s super powerful. |
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Post by bronzeknee on Oct 18, 2017 17:34:48 GMT -5
Similar to Darkangel's calc. I just ran out Avg au and wsp generation per day (and conversion of Ag to Wsp). This assumes we are going to get offers everyday... has that been confirmed? |
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Post by wildboar on Oct 18, 2017 17:35:27 GMT -5
the offers are bobbins... like IP - something else to forget about in the game & find my happy place...
I have 2.5k Au ... what to do ... get a big toe of a Bulgasari or a complete Rogatka...? hmmm let me think ...
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Post by CrownBlack on Oct 18, 2017 17:36:19 GMT -5
I said this on another thread but will repeat it. There is no way in hell Pix will sell a dash for wsp. You are going to need gold or rm and a lot of time to get one. Wsp didn't cost anything to get so why would Pix let anybody get a dash for it???
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Post by arakos on Oct 18, 2017 17:40:55 GMT -5
Already did the math at another thread. I'll copy and paste it here. If you wanted to get the Kumiho and a Haechi, you'd have to pay 50K gold If you wanted to get the Haechi and half a Kumiho, you'd have to pay 25K gold If you wanted to get a Tempest and 1/3 of a Bulgasari, you'd have to pay 10.5K gold If you wanted to get a Bulgasari and 3 and a half Tempests, you'd have to pay 35.7K gold If you wanted to get an Inquisitor and 12 Scourges, you'd have to pay 83.3K gold If you wanted to get a Scourge and 1/10 of an Inquisitor, you'd have to pay 7K gold If you wanted to get a Kumiho and 2 Haechis, you'd have to pay 180K WSP If you wanted to get a Haechi and 1/2 a Kumiho, you'd have to pay 90K WSP If you wanted to get a Tempest and 1/3 a Bulgasari, you'd have to pay 37.5K WSP If you wanted to get an Inquisitor and 12 Scourges, you'd have to pay 317K WSP If you wanted to get a Scourge and 1/10 of an Inquisitor, you'd have to pay 26.5 WSP Read more: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/15714/joke-wsp#ixzz4vtkIn35r...If you wanted to get a Bulgasari and 3.45 Tempests, you'd have to pay 129.6K WSP |
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Post by Anon O. Mous on Oct 18, 2017 17:45:21 GMT -5
All I can say is, they had better sweeten the offer a whole lot before I part with any more of my hard earned WSP's. I can always find uses for them, even it's outfitting all my light hardpoints with Magnums. I'm not using all of my Griffins. I can dress them and my Rhino up to be PDB's. Wouldn't be my first choice, but I can do it if the component offers don't get better.
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Post by BigDud on Oct 18, 2017 17:51:50 GMT -5
Lol. I took all the offers. Who knows. Maybe in a year ill get a scourge!
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Post by AηɗυηєɗнєƖ [ǀƬA] on Oct 18, 2017 17:55:02 GMT -5
Wsp didn't cost anything to get so why would Pix let anybody get a dash for it??? the offers may be idiotic, but this isn't true. People who have large quantities (from 50k+) of WSP have bought them, not raised them with the 40 free ones. WSPs cost silver and silver, at some point, turns out to be amore precious commodity than gold in War Robots. |
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Post by shagot on Oct 18, 2017 18:00:30 GMT -5
There is a gold offer iirc for 24500 au for 99.99, so if someone utilized that, and then got enough component for gold type offers, they could in theory get a dash for $99.99. Oh god, what a bargain, we are happy now if we can get one (1) bot for 99$ only! And we only have to wait one month to collect all components for those 99$! And some ppl said things arent going to get better..pff.. we just had to wait for this bargain |
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Post by CrownBlack on Oct 18, 2017 18:00:33 GMT -5
Wsp didn't cost anything to get so why would Pix let anybody get a dash for it?hey ?? the offers may be idiotic, but this isn't true. People who have large quantities (from 50k+) of WSP have bought them, not raised them with the 40 free ones. WSPs cost silver and silver, at some point, turns out to be amore precious commodity than gold in War Robots. They bought them with silver earned from the game and not by using real $$ to acquire it. True some people may have bought gold to buy it but hey we aren't all brain surgeons. I can start the shop going again and make more and not cost me a dime. So if it's free to me then why would Pix let me buy something that "valuable" for free?? |
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Post by arakos on Oct 18, 2017 18:01:06 GMT -5
I'm curious if we will all get the same offers, or if the numbers will vary based on amounts of resources you own or hangar levels. Those conversion rates are okay I guess. Still expensive, but better pricing than buying them direct. There is a gold offer iirc for 24500 au for 99.99, so if someone utilized that, and then got enough component for gold type offers, they could in theory get a dash for $99.99. I take it no ember component offers have been seen yet? I hear ( ) it' s super powerful. No Embers yet, I think Keep in mind you'd have to wait 28 days to get the Haechi. 72 days for a Bulgasari. 84 days for an Inquisitor. If you pay both gold and WSP, then "only" half that And we don't know if these offers will be renewed day after day |
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Post by grendelsbot on Oct 18, 2017 18:07:40 GMT -5
I said this on another thread but will repeat it. There is no way in hell Pix will sell a dash for wsp. You are going to need gold or rm and a lot of time to get one. Wsp didn't cost anything to get so why would Pix let anybody get a dash for it??? I have offers right now for Dash components for WP. All three of them as a matter of fact. Looks like hell is different. It's not much components but it's at least something. I had over 100K WP a month ago. Down to over 50K now. So not like I am short of any. By my calculations I can have a Haechi for 88K WP. I may spend everything if they offer me it multiple times. 10,000 divided by 360 components in the offer which is 27.7. 27.7 times 3200 WP(cost of the offer) = 88,888 WP. I think that's not too bad. EDIT: They end it once you do it one time. So that sucks. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 18:13:30 GMT -5
I'm curious if we will all get the same offers, or if the numbers will vary based on amounts of resources you own or hangar levels. Those conversion rates are okay I guess. Still expensive, but better pricing than buying them direct. There is a gold offer iirc for 24500 au for 99.99, so if someone utilized that, and then got enough component for gold type offers, they could in theory get a dash for $99.99. I take it no ember component offers have been seen yet? I hear ( ) it' s super powerful. No Embers yet, I think Keep in mind you'd have to wait 28 days to get the Haechi. 72 days for a Bulgasari. 84 days for an Inquisitor. If you pay both gold and WSP, then "only" half that And we don't know if these offers will be renewed day after day Yeah, its certainly not great. What I think is worse, is they keep saying there will be more ways to earn components. So even if you take these offers, you may regret it, if there are better methods coming. I have just resigned myself to not being able to get an ember. The same way I expect to never own a Lamborghini. It sucks, but it is what it is. I still enjoy playing, even though it would be funner to use the new gear. |
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Post by arakos on Oct 18, 2017 18:19:17 GMT -5
No Embers yet, I think Keep in mind you'd have to wait 28 days to get the Haechi. 72 days for a Bulgasari. 84 days for an Inquisitor. If you pay both gold and WSP, then "only" half that And we don't know if these offers will be renewed day after day Yeah, its certainly not great. What I think is worse, is they keep saying there will be more ways to earn components. So even if you take these offers, you may regret it, if there are better methods coming. I have just resigned myself to not being able to get an ember. The same way I expect to never own a Lamborghini. It sucks, but it is what it is. I still enjoy playing, even though it would be funner to use the new gear. I haven't bought any offer yet. Will wait for next days offers, I need more data. Right now I dislike the prices and also the fact that you have to buy two different components. |
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Post by roadbot on Oct 18, 2017 18:22:32 GMT -5
Just made some maths. How much would cost 10k components of a particular item if I am to buy them using similar offers? 180 Kumiho components and 360 Haechi components for 900! gold = The Haechi would cost 25.200 gold! (and you would have 80 Haechi components and 5.040 Kumiho components left) 180 Kumiho components and 360 Haechi components for 3.200 WSP! = The Haechi would cost 89.600 WSP! (and you would have 80 Haechi components and 5.040 Kumiho components left, like above) You need 28! offers like these to complete your bots PS: Darkangel and KaneoheGrown have completed the maths in a most complete and efficient way, take a look at their posts below. Thank you guys! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL  |
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Post by grendelsbot on Oct 18, 2017 18:24:59 GMT -5
I took all the WP offers as WP is just sitting there and I would like the middle Dash. The lower one I'll win in the event. The other stuff I don't care about but I did all WP offers anyway. Needless to say I'm closest component wise with a Tempest at over 1500 components even though I already have 4 Tempest. Just my luck. Second is the Haechi with over 500 components. Only 9500 more to go!
You earn 3500 WP a week not including the bonus one for 60 and if you wanna buy more for gold (never do that). So if this offer for the Haechi components came up once a week you would be on the plus side by 300 WSP. Easy stuff. Just being patient. Plus will be earning components in the BM and maybe other methods as yet determined. Hopefully these offers come up once a week at least. If so it's 6 months. And that assumes not getting components any other way. So let's make it 4-5 months. Reasonable.
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Post by KaneoheGrown on Oct 18, 2017 18:38:57 GMT -5
Similar to Darkangel's calc. I just ran out Avg au and wsp generation per day (and conversion of Ag to Wsp). This assumes we are going to get offers everyday... has that been confirmed? Agreed, this has the broad assumption of having the offers available regularly. My calcs are based solely on how much time and resources are required to generate the Au or Wsp for a bot. All of these can be "sped up" if you tweak your Au or Wsp income. E.g. your average Au per day is over 70, or you spend Au for some additional Wsp daily. I just wanted to baseline how long these two bots will take. It's still going to be a substantial amount of time and effort. If you double all of my average currency counts (140 Au or 1100 wsp each day) you'd cut the timelines in half. |
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Post by hon_shu on Oct 18, 2017 18:40:22 GMT -5
Not to ruin your math here, but since there are two unknowns in each "equation", you'll need at least another set of offers to determine the actual price of each item. Unless the relative pricing of buying components with RM is factored in, which I haven't seen yet done.
In any case, I don't understand why the new stuff is still roughly 10 times more expensive than any previously released stuff. Well, I do understand it, it comes down to a greedy money grab by the developers of this game. And they haven't moved an inch away from it.
All the while the community was hoping for a clear gesture, read, significantly reduced prices in line with previous content. Well, the gesture was there, but it looks a lot like a middle finger from where I'm standing.
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Post by imnobody on Oct 18, 2017 18:49:20 GMT -5
it look this is the first transaction converting to components, this must be the first phase then it get easier from there on i assume. i think will see this more often in the future (still stingy handing out reward).
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