|
|
Post by Uhnonimis on Oct 7, 2017 13:32:43 GMT -5
I mentioned this in another thread, but thought it merited a thread of its own. There are some bots out there that many think are wonderful, but really aren't all that great. Conversely, there are some widely disparaged bots that probably shouldn't be.
My own candidate for most overrated bot is the Griffin. The bot many say to put several of in your hangar. But should you? Really? Good firepower, but certainly nothing special for a heavy. A special ability that can put you *into* danger, and a *long* cooldown. Not all that much in the way of hit points.
Honestly, I am not sure what bot to name as most underrated. But if there ends up being a consensus (which I doubt!), and I don't have one, it might convince me to give it a try.
|
|
|
|
Post by Eurobercik on Oct 7, 2017 13:52:42 GMT -5
I don't know which bot could be overrated. All "meta" bots are actually good, so there's no overrated bots.
About underrated: My candidate would be Raijin. He does great in defence, and is not a "walking bag of silver", if piloted correctly.
Also, Natasha. There are jokes that she's big, ugly, slow sniper bot, but actually, she has equal firepower to Fury, she's the best sniper bot (maybe excluding Treb Butch), can do great in midrange, and is ridicolously cheap to buy and upgrade.
Well, I'm sure someone will mention Boa and Golem - but I haven't played any of them, so I cannot say much.
|
|
|
|
Post by shakingrabbit on Oct 7, 2017 13:56:20 GMT -5
I think Griffin's overrated-ness is due to his versatility not so much his pure stats.
The Lancelot/Ancilot is over-rated IMO. It is only when they come in packs are they too much.
Most under-rated: the Aphid Gepard. I know many forsake him when the MM switched over but with Aphids, he's still a ton of fun, fast and can dish out good damage. 1v1, the speed of the Gepard to dodge Aphids from an Aphid Patton is greater than the extra Aphid on the Patton. I'd prefer him over the Aphid Patton for sure.
|
|
|
|
Post by tonyfla on Oct 7, 2017 14:13:06 GMT -5
I think the Rhinos are overrated. They're so easy to kill with rockets, missiles, and machine guns. Always happy to see them on red team - unless the player has gone off script and put Tulus/Pins on them. That can screw with my style a bit. Gotta go with Eurobercik on the Natasha. Definitely underrated and for the reasons he gave. |
|
|
|
Post by arakos on Oct 7, 2017 14:14:42 GMT -5
I don't know which bot could be overrated. All "meta" bots are actually good, so there's no overrated bots. About underrated: My candidate would be Raijin. He does great in defence, and is not a "walking bag of silver", if piloted correctly. Also, Natasha. There are jokes that she's big, ugly, slow sniper bot, but actually, she has equal firepower to Fury, she's the best sniper bot (maybe excluding Treb Butch), can do great in midrange, and is ridicolously cheap to buy and upgrade. Well, I'm sure someone will mention Boa and Golem - but I haven't played any of them, so I cannot say much. Agree. The Natasha is also VERY cheap and fast to upgrade (better than any other heavy) |
|
|
|
Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Oct 7, 2017 15:07:09 GMT -5
I don't see the Griffin as overrated. Maybe it seems that way because pilots are too aggressive with them and use the jumps too much for offensive rather than defensive purposes and get killed to quickly in them. I DO actually see Lances as overrated. I don't think they are absolutely necessary anymore like everyone makes them out to be. I don't know which bot could be overrated. All "meta" bots are actually good, so there's no overrated bots. About underrated: My candidate would be Raijin. He does great in defence, and is not a "walking bag of silver", if piloted correctly. Also, Natasha. There are jokes that she's big, ugly, slow sniper bot, but actually, she has equal firepower to Fury, she's the best sniper bot (maybe excluding Treb Butch), can do great in midrange, and is ridicolously cheap to buy and upgrade. Well, I'm sure someone will mention Boa and Golem - but I haven't played any of them, so I cannot say much. Gotta go with Eurobercik on the Natasha. Definitely underrated and for the reasons he gave. I have a Blaze Nat sitting in my storage hangar. Been contemplating buying a couple Zeus' lately. I don't feel like buying another Carnage nor would I really want to run 2 in a game and I really love my Thunderage. If I buy the Zeus' I could swap them out for the Thunders on my Carnage occasionally but what would really seal the deal for me is if I knew they'd also work out well on the Natasha. I NEVER see a Zeus Nat. Anyone have experience? |
|
|
|
Post by danny on Oct 7, 2017 15:07:49 GMT -5
Yup, when my base is overrun, I just love to respawn in my Natasha. Its firepower is amazing. Sure to get at least a couple of kills.
|
|
|
|
Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Oct 7, 2017 15:13:54 GMT -5
Yup, when my base is overrun, I just love to respawn in my Natasha. Its firepower is amazing. Sure to get at least a couple of kills. You're running it with Zeus'? Sorry not trying to hijack the thread. Just a few simple responses is good enough for me. |
|
|
|
Post by _psychø on Oct 7, 2017 15:43:01 GMT -5
Overrated: Lancelot, I dint find it so interesting and fun but on uses them and they become a Must starting from diamond.
Underrated: Raijin, I find it better than the Fury in many ways, it may have a bit less firepower but it's cheaper, has a shield and can climb things and cross some barriers that the fury can't.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Karma:
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 15:44:44 GMT -5
The Griff's stats are irrelevant. It's the DPS the bot puts out that makes it what it is. 4 hardpoints that can carry munitions of the same type, as opposed to leo and tasha, which are offset by their heavy hard points.
Rhino is not overrated, just a high skill cieling in terms of using one effectively.
There aren't really any overrated bots, just over stated ones, which is a completely different issue.
My vote for the most underrated bot is Boa. It's the only medium bot that can take a full DB salvo to the face without shielding, and has a comparable burst potential as Carnage when equiped with Thunder/Ork.
|
|
|
|
Post by threl on Oct 7, 2017 18:04:33 GMT -5
Not really overrated, but after Adrian recorded that video about Noricum pattons, I saw days of them on the blue team. Yes, they’re buffed, no, they’re not good unless they’re maxed and/or you have an insane amount of situational awareness. I’d say the most underrated is the Taran/punisher fujin. It’s situational and dies a lot, but there’s no other bot that can get blitzed by a death button and come out as the victor.
|
|
|
|
Post by danny on Oct 7, 2017 21:35:53 GMT -5
Yup, when my base is overrun, I just love to respawn in my Natasha. Its firepower is amazing. Sure to get at least a couple of kills. You're running it with Zeus'? Sorry not trying to hijack the thread. Just a few simple responses is good enough for me. Haha, of course not. Just the standard Thunder-Punisher combination. |
|
cero39
Destrier
Posts: 42
Karma: 23
|
Post by cero39 on Oct 7, 2017 22:09:05 GMT -5
Overrated: Tarancilots. I enjoy taking them out with my punisher griffin.
Underrated: orkan doc. I've run a few dozen games with it and have had tremendous fun. Great when teaming up with more durable bots up front
|
|
|
|
Post by ᕲΣΣᕲƧ on Oct 7, 2017 23:01:31 GMT -5
So many people don't take my Temptest Carnage seriously. That's gotta be very close to the top of the list of underrated bots.
|
|
|
|
Post by oakwhelie on Oct 7, 2017 23:19:11 GMT -5
The Griff's stats are irrelevant. It's the DPS the bot puts out that makes it what it is. 4 hardpoints that can carry munitions of the same type, as opposed to leo and tasha, which are offset by their heavy hard points. Rhino is not overrated, just a high skill cieling in terms of using one effectively. There aren't really any overrated bots, just over stated ones, which is a completely different issue. My vote for the most underrated bot is Boa. It's the only medium bot that can take a full DB salvo to the face without shielding, and has a comparable burst potential as Carnage when equiped with Thunder/Ork. yup, i had more success with ork thun boa than thun carnage. Killing a full health bot with boa is more guaranteed because of its durability which allow it to keep going even if it takes the first hit from reds. I saw an ancile taran boa once which last longer than some ancilot. The speed allow it to quickly run away once the ancile is depleted and move to cover to corner shoot when plasma red appear. May not be that effective but i tried it and its fun. |
|
|
|
Post by xXrobotrippinXx on Oct 7, 2017 23:19:55 GMT -5
So many people don't take my Temptest Carnage seriously. That's gotta be very close to the top of the list of underrated bots. That's how I feel about my Gunship Griff. |
|
zeusius
Recruit
......
Posts: 2
Karma: 1
|
Post by zeusius on Oct 8, 2017 1:12:56 GMT -5
What is a Gunship Grif?
|
|
|
|
Post by hyderier on Oct 8, 2017 3:19:34 GMT -5
Overrated: Anything I don't have: Lancelot, Fury, Raijin, Dashes, Inquisitor
Rated just right: Griffin. Also WW bots, even though I don't have them.
Underrated: Everything else I actually run regularly: Rog, Rhino, Carnage, Natasha
This might be a bit subjective opinion, but it is based on my experience of not running the bots I list as overrated.
|
|
|
|
Post by hyderier on Oct 8, 2017 3:21:51 GMT -5
It's usually Molot Griffin, though it could also mean Punisher Griffin (which is called leadhose Griffin by some), or a mix of these, depending on who is using the term. If you want to be understood by everybody, better just say "Molot Griffin" or "Punisher Griffin". |
|
|
|
Post by dreamslayer28 on Oct 8, 2017 3:35:48 GMT -5
I mentioned this in another thread, but thought it merited a thread of its own. There are some bots out there that many think are wonderful, but really aren't all that great. Conversely, there are some widely disparaged bots that probably shouldn't be. My own candidate for most overrated bot is the Griffin. The bot many say to put several of in your hangar. But should you? Really? Good firepower, but certainly nothing special for a heavy. A special ability that can put you *into* danger, and a *long* cooldown. Not all that much in the way of hit points. Honestly, I am not sure what bot to name as most underrated. But if there ends up being a consensus (which I doubt!), and I don't have one, it might convince me to give it a try. Overrated? Something like the Leo in some instances - its RDB can't go up against the RDB of a Griffin, its DB can't go up against the DB of a Griffin and its Plasma setup can't go up against the Plasma of a Griffin. I've seen this way too many times in Gold and Diamond...however, with the Ember, this notion would change soon. Underrated would be Boa. Strong, yet underutilized by many. No need to elaborate. |
|
|
|
Post by Strayed on Oct 8, 2017 3:40:25 GMT -5
The Griff's stats are irrelevant. It's the DPS the bot puts out that makes it what it is. 4 hardpoints that can carry munitions of the same type, as opposed to leo and tasha, which are offset by their heavy hard points. Rhino is not overrated, just a high skill cieling in terms of using one effectively. There aren't really any overrated bots, just over stated ones, which is a completely different issue. My vote for the most underrated bot is Boa. It's the only medium bot that can take a full DB salvo to the face without shielding, and has a comparable burst potential as Carnage when equiped with Thunder/Ork. yup, i had more success with ork thun boa than thun carnage. Killing a full health bot with boa is more guaranteed because of its durability which allow it to keep going even if it takes the first hit from reds. I saw an ancile taran boa once which last longer than some ancilot. The speed allow it to quickly run away once the ancile is depleted and move to cover to corner shoot when plasma red appear. May not be that effective but i tried it and its fun. The thunder orkan boa actually used to be a meta bot until the rhino came along. |
|
|
|
Post by MCYL on Oct 8, 2017 8:08:08 GMT -5
Underrated: the Quad zeus Butch because...just kidding
|
|
