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Post by bronzeknee on Oct 4, 2017 23:38:08 GMT -5
If you thought the Dash Robots were bad, wait until you face a high level Ember. It does slightly less DPS over 5 seconds than a Thunder (14,700 per second for Ember, 15,520 for the Thunder) but goes through Anciles and Physical shields and damage doesn't decrease with range, though it has less range than the Thunder (350m to 500m).
Just imagine a Thunder doing nearly full damage at 350 range. That is out of the range of Orkans, and it goes through all types of shields!
And after 5 seconds (which is how long it takes to unload a Thunder) it continues dealing damage at the same rate for 5 more seconds, and then reloads in just five seconds! A Lance with an Ember and two Tarans literally melts everything, the DPS is insane. And it can be yours for the low, low price of $149.95! If the Dash Robots couldn't convince you the game was pay to win, the Ember will, it is so ridiculously strong.
The Thunder is completely obsolete now, and burst damage in the game just keeps getting worse. Robots die faster than in War Robots, a Mech game, than characters do in Team Fortress now. War Robots is less and less becoming the spiritual phone successor to Mechwarrior.
It isn't even closed to balanced... it literally breaks the game. Point blank Thunder damage at 350 range, but it deals that DPS for twice the time a Thunder does and goes through all types of shields...the weapon is far more game breaking than any of the Dash Robots (though it does offer a nice counter to the Dashes).
I guess I know what my first component purchase should be.
And if you thought the title was click bait and that it couldn't be true, feel free to watch this guy mech everyone out and deal nearly 1 million damage in just over 4 minutes...
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Post by EatStinkyTofu on Oct 4, 2017 23:44:41 GMT -5
Yes it’s pretty crazy
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Post by ezekielcrow on Oct 4, 2017 23:57:53 GMT -5
That's pretty borked! Now I'm excited to try em out on my Carnage!...err, when the prices are more reasonable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2017 0:36:57 GMT -5
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Post by danny on Oct 5, 2017 1:06:14 GMT -5
I don't think you realise that these are probably under limited release until all of the data can be collected on it's use Hahaha! You're right. Pixonic is limiting its availability by raising prices so that it can make a careful study of the effect of this weapon on game balance. Don't worry, folks, once Pixonic has confirmed that the weapon is OP in about 9 months' time, it'll be suitably nerfed and then you can use your WP to obtain it.
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Post by T34 on Oct 5, 2017 1:13:13 GMT -5
Shiiit. This is not going in the right direction at all
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Post by roadbot on Oct 5, 2017 1:14:05 GMT -5
I don't think you realise that these are probably under limited release until all of the data can be collected on it's use Hahaha! You're right. Pixonic is limiting it's availability by raising prices so that it can make a careful study of the effect of this weapon on game balance. Don't worry, folks, once Pixonic has confirmed that the weapon is OP in about 9 months' time, it'll be suitably nerfed and then you can use your WP to obtain it. Also don't forget that by then we'll have a pulse weapon that does 15000 per second to any robot within 500 meters, for 5 seconds, with a 4 second reload, oh and the pulse goes thru walls and everything. Of course they will test it for another 9 months to determine if its balanced. Oh yeah and itll be used by 5s on a new robot that has 5 heavy slots, double ancile, 360 physical shield, moves at 50 kph, and is made out of a special material that makes it the only bot immune to the pulse weapon. Of course pixonic will be generous and let you get the robot for 10 trillion components that you can only win thru 6 different black markets, where each market has a section of the components you need, OR you can get it up front for $1000 and a wage garnishment contract where pixnonic gets only 50% of your total income per paycheck, also including even if your grandma give you 25 cents. Because pixonic is reasonable, of course. And none you dare say otherwise!
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Post by somepilot on Oct 5, 2017 1:17:11 GMT -5
Nice video, wanna see embers on carnage ?
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Post by danny on Oct 5, 2017 1:19:28 GMT -5
Hahaha! You're right. Pixonic is limiting it's availability by raising prices so that it can make a careful study of the effect of this weapon on game balance. Don't worry, folks, once Pixonic has confirmed that the weapon is OP in about 9 months' time, it'll be suitably nerfed and then you can use your WP to obtain it. Also don't forget that by then we'll have a pulse weapon that does 15000 per second to any robot within 500 meters, for 5 seconds, with a 4 second reload, oh and the pulse goes thru walls and everything. Of course they will test it for another 9 months to determine if its balanced. Oh yeah and itll be used by 5s on a new robot that has 5 heavy slots, double ancile, 360 physical shield, moves at 50 kph, and is made out of a special material that makes it the only bot immune to the pulse weapon. Of course pixonic will be generous and let you get the robot for 10 trillion components that you can only win thru 6 different black markets, where each market has a section of the components you need, OR you can get it up front for $1000 and a wage garnishment contract where pixnonic gets only 50% of your total income per paycheck, also including even if your grandma give you 25 cents. Because pixonic is reasonable, of course. And none you dare say otherwise! How dare you.
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on Oct 5, 2017 1:30:09 GMT -5
gad, talk about boring. when are they going to sell the button that you win when it's pushed.
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Post by llama4president on Oct 5, 2017 1:30:24 GMT -5
Higher Damage than Thunder - Check
Ignores Energy Shields without having lower dps - Check
Ignores Phisical Shields without having lower dps - Check
Does splash damage without having lower dps - check
Does have high Burst damage while having low reload time - check
Deals full damage independently of range - Check
Costs 150€ - Check
Whale Heavy Mount - Check
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Post by T34 on Oct 5, 2017 1:38:43 GMT -5
Ahhh, just one more comment quickly.
Seems the trend continues where one OTT development after another pushes the game into extreme P2W.
This is the answer to those who suggested to keep calm and let's discuss matters constructively with pixonic. That includes some of the youtubers! The Pix survey is another example.
Unless a player is willing to fork out lots of money on a continuous basis this game is pointless at the top. The old enjoyment can be had at lower leagues but even there the changes have moved the game towards the dark side.
On another note regarding the tempest. I have 3 at L12. The recent 5% buff does not seem to reflect reality. IMO the tempest got a much bigger buff or the bullet spread has been reduced at the distance. It's now a serious weapon. Will need further testing tho as it's still at early stages of eveluation. So a big caveat in regard to the tempest matter.
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Post by Payxonic on Oct 5, 2017 1:39:19 GMT -5
-i cant even... every addition gets greedier and OP-ier. Goodbye ancilot, it has been a good run
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Post by roadbot on Oct 5, 2017 1:39:37 GMT -5
gad, talk about boring. when are they going to sell the button that you win when it's pushed. Only $500!... Per battle! xD
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Post by K A Z on Oct 5, 2017 1:41:48 GMT -5
I understand now - the War Robots slowly evolves towards Pacman. Make your Pacman (bot) eat the magic bead (mount the Ember thingy) and as a mighty Pacman (Pilot) you can immediately devour (roast) all the bad ghosts (red bots). Tactical complication of the same level just the price tag is a bit off.
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Post by bronzeknee on Oct 5, 2017 1:43:52 GMT -5
The game just feels like a beta test right now.
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Post by piginapoke on Oct 5, 2017 1:48:32 GMT -5
You can forget the thunder at 500m range. Spread is so wide it wouldn't tickle let alone damage. Thunder effective at 300-350 Max. You can nibble an ancile at 500m but hardly worth the effort.
Came across a lancelot with ember. He must have been at a party roasting marshmallows because he was firing from 600mtrs. By the time he was 350m my tempest (2xlvl 11 1 xlvl 10) fury had already taken him out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2017 2:25:59 GMT -5
I haven't yet fought an ember, so I look to threads like this for info... But the message is all over the place. Ember is OP, I killed an ember np, tempest is 「deteriorated bum-bum」, pix sucks. I would like to hear from an actual ember battle vet please. Your thoughts?
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Post by K A Z on Oct 5, 2017 2:40:15 GMT -5
You can forget the thunder at 500m range. Spread is so wide it wouldn't tickle let alone damage. Thunder effective at 300-350 Max. You can nibble an ancile at 500m but hardly worth the effort. Came across a lancelot with ember. He must have been at a party roasting marshmallows because he was firing from 600mtrs. By the time he was 350m my tempest (2xlvl 11 1 xlvl 10) fury had already taken him out. Yet another proof, that spending this sort of cash on mobile game is usually not an exact indication of intelligence or skill.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2017 2:44:51 GMT -5
At least you can't equip an Ember on a Dash bot LoL.
Anyway, In my opinion, it has no sense that this weapon can bypass energy shields: the force field should be able to reject fire! Moreover, this is the WORST-looking flamethrower I've ever seen in a videogame, and I'm not talking about the firing effect (which is not so good) but about the weapon model itself.
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Post by WilsonK on Oct 5, 2017 2:46:24 GMT -5
Ember is like a cross-breed of Plasma & Rockets. Goes through shields, has "a little bit of splash radius", and a range of 350m... I'd love to have an Emberage (Ember Carnage) sometime moving forward, don't need to waste time breaking those shields anymore, my Ember will melt ANYTHING!
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Post by moses on Oct 5, 2017 3:18:47 GMT -5
I haven't yet fought an ember, so I look to threads like this for info... But the message is all over the place. Ember is OP, I killed an ember np, tempest is 「deteriorated bum-bum」, pix sucks. I would like to hear from an actual ember battle vet please. Your thoughts? I have come up against it on two occasions so far, one on an inquisitor and the other with two on a carnage. Honestly I was underwhelmed, had no problem dealing with them. Plasma griff / anything with a few tarans will still take out the. Carnage before it gets more than 50% of your health. Inquistor stealth means he has a time advantage, but still orkans the job. since it was close to day 1 after the iOS update I guess the pilot had not had time to get used to it as yet so maybe with practice it becomes more deadly.
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Post by Robotor Affan on Oct 5, 2017 3:23:44 GMT -5
I've encountered one. Ember took my full health leo (level 9) is few secs (like a blink of an eye) Seriously it is OP
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Post by _psychø on Oct 5, 2017 3:29:52 GMT -5
Are you saying that the game wasn't broken since 3.0? ARE YOU???!!
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Post by ezekielcrow on Oct 5, 2017 3:36:07 GMT -5
Maybe Pix can make a little more by selling the Ember DiY home kit?
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Post by imnobody on Oct 5, 2017 3:52:00 GMT -5
*throw in towel. if you want to be a god you have to pay your way to be a God. ?firetruck? this game, I am unsintall this game when BoT get release. This game has become no more of a skill strategy game situation, it has become who has the latest toy out and who can out mech their opponent before timer run out.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Oct 5, 2017 4:22:01 GMT -5
Naaa, what's broken are the fancy expensive L12 robots wielding their fancy L12 Ember, and by my "completely obsolete" L11 Thunders no less. Seriously, the Thunders are doin just fine wrecking reds, Ember and the Inquisitor were really easy to deal with. Just another bot and weapon to learn tactics against = fun. I'm sure they can be powerful opponents, but I have yet to experience either of them as OP.
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Post by NerFB on Oct 5, 2017 5:03:20 GMT -5
I haven't yet fought an ember, so I look to threads like this for info... But the message is all over the place. Ember is OP, I killed an ember np, tempest is 「deteriorated bum-bum」, pix sucks. I would like to hear from an actual ember battle vet please. Your thoughts? I have come up against it on two occasions so far, one on an inquisitor and the other with two on a carnage. Honestly I was underwhelmed, had no problem dealing with them. Plasma griff / anything with a few tarans will still take out the. Carnage before it gets more than 50% of your health. Inquistor stealth means he has a time advantage, but still orkans the job. since it was close to day 1 after the iOS update I guess the pilot had not had time to get used to it as yet so maybe with practice it becomes more deadly. Likewise, I came across a pilot with 4 Embers ( Kerrchinggg, ?), he lost but did a lot of damage on Shen.
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Post by hyderier on Oct 5, 2017 5:40:24 GMT -5
I guess I know what my first component purchase should be. I hope you are thinking "nothing" here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2017 5:41:08 GMT -5
I have come up against it on two occasions so far, one on an inquisitor and the other with two on a carnage. Honestly I was underwhelmed, had no problem dealing with them. Plasma griff / anything with a few tarans will still take out the. Carnage before it gets more than 50% of your health. Inquistor stealth means he has a time advantage, but still orkans the job. since it was close to day 1 after the iOS update I guess the pilot had not had time to get used to it as yet so maybe with practice it becomes more deadly. Likewise, I came across a pilot with 4 Embers ( Kerrchinggg, ?), he lost but did a lot of damage on Shen. Edit With that hangar his stats should be considerably higher, so I’m guessing that’s a pretty bad player. 3 ork haechis alone is enough to do more than a million damage in every game. Doesn’t say much about the ember itself if the guy doesn’t know how to play.
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