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Post by tristan on Sept 25, 2017 7:54:32 GMT -5
How can victories % and other statistics drop from 66% to 38% in 4-5 games?
Yes, I lost couple of battles, but if it is 50 games average, then it's not mathematically possible. Or there's some other math in use in War Robots?
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Post by kukurukukuk on Sept 25, 2017 8:08:20 GMT -5
My guess is that generally the latest games weigh more when the average is calculated. I have seen it happen before, but by a much smaller amount. However, it IS strange. My stats have reached an all time low in just a few games. There is something very weird about that.   These pics are 4-5 games apart. Some facts for the games in between: - My lowest damage was 350k - My highest damage was 800k - I did not tank - I have won at least two out of five games So, according to these screens, I have won one game while my consecutive wins have gone up from 11 to 17. Go figure. I will not even try to rationalize the damage average. It makes no sense at all. Something is very glitchy today. |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Sept 25, 2017 14:39:24 GMT -5
I must have gotten everybody's wins, then. I was on a pretty lengthy losing streak last night and my win pct never went down from 58%. Am I slipping into the twilight zone.....
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Post by inspirace on Sept 25, 2017 15:21:48 GMT -5
drunken Russians ...
sorry for stereotyping, but it is weird. never happened to me until yesterday (and today I haven’t yet played).
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Post by targetnumber2 on Sept 25, 2017 15:34:17 GMT -5
I was in a very bad loosing streak a few weeks ago, my win percentage went down to 38% then I won a single game and it went up to 40%, I continued to lose about 10 more games and my win percentage stayed at 40%. I sent a bug report to pix but they responded with the typical "its calculated based on the last 50 battles", I'm not sure if it is a bug or if pix is deliberately not showing the true stats but it's very weird.
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Post by GuitarGuy on Sept 25, 2017 15:56:50 GMT -5
I notice "cycles" the game puts me though, I will get a couple of days of more wins than losses, followed by a couple of days of getting totally beat down. Pix says they ONLY match off league points. All the data ive collected suggests win percent and how much average damage you do is factored in as well. I have a goof off account that just turned level 30 and has bots and weps at level 7 average. I am gold league 1 with 2159 league points but with a 450k ave damage. I get higher than most I think in damage for my weapons and past 6 games I have yet to see a gold league player on either side. Its all Diamond. This account is rarely played and holds less than 30 cups on average. If it was true its only based on league score there in no way I should see all diamond pilots most every game. In fact, there should be more gold league players out there than diamond. Funny. they say its only one thing that the MM runs on, sure... thats why it takes 2 minutes sometimes to get a match, but yet old MM that factored in multiple things could consistently give you a game in 30 seconds or less, and according to Pix there are more people playing now than back in 2016. Personally, I dont buy any of what they say when it comes to the MM. Its stacked against you to force a certain win stat plain and simple. This is the main reason many elite clan players will only play in squad and never solo. They know with over 70% win stats from squading, they would get totally beat down with no team to help them if they went solo. Many of them wont allow there egos to get crushed like that so its squad only or they dont play.
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Post by karlhungus on Sept 25, 2017 16:41:17 GMT -5
There's a nasty bug.
I got catapulted from gold to some league with a red flame to private league before being dumped in bronze with an 8% win ratio. I've played about 1500 games so no way is this possible even on a bad losing streak. I messaged pix and they fobbed me off with we'll pass your message on to the game team. My win ratio has built as if it was reset to 0% as I'm back near 70% after a day of play (sorry everyone who got clubbed coming back up :/)
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Post by sandman on Sept 25, 2017 16:48:04 GMT -5
This post isn't about the swings that we all know match monkey puts us through, as some above have interpreted it. There's a new bug where players' stats take a drastic dive for no reason. I have at least 2 clan mates who have had this happen. One of their pages says they're averaging 1.1 kills, just over 100k damage, when just last night he was over 500k. And no, he's not a tanker
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Post by kukurukukuk on Sept 25, 2017 16:54:32 GMT -5
This post isn't about the swings that we all know match monkey puts us through, as some above have interpreted it. There's a new bug where players' stats take a drastic dive for no reason. I have at least 2 clan mates who have had this happen. One of their pages says they're averaging 1.1 kills, just over 100k damage, when just last night he was over 500k. And no, he's not a tanker Yes and it started today. Yesterday I was averaging 600k. |
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Post by moody on Sept 25, 2017 17:21:50 GMT -5
This post isn't about the swings that we all know match monkey puts us through, as some above have interpreted it. There's a new bug where players' stats take a drastic dive for no reason. I have at least 2 clan mates who have had this happen. One of their pages says they're averaging 1.1 kills, just over 100k damage, when just last night he was over 500k. And no, he's not a tanker Agreed. We have a clanmate who has also dropped from a 600k average to a 100k average in a few games, and a clan leader who has dropped 150k without playing. Also, someone in wolf clan with a similar thing happening. Along with undocumented changes in league point distribution ( negatives for second place loss. -22 for 5th place loss). |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 17:26:03 GMT -5
I notice "cycles" the game puts me though, I will get a couple of days of more wins than losses, followed by a couple of days of getting totally beat down. Pix says they ONLY match off league points. All the data ive collected suggests win percent and how much average damage you do is factored in as well. I have a goof off account that just turned level 30 and has bots and weps at level 7 average. I am gold league 1 with 2159 league points but with a 450k ave damage. I get higher than most I think in damage for my weapons and past 6 games I have yet to see a gold league player on either side. Its all Diamond. This account is rarely played and holds less than 30 cups on average. If it was true its only based on league score there in no way I should see all diamond pilots most every game. In fact, there should be more gold league players out there than diamond. Funny. they say its only one thing that the MM runs on, sure... thats why it takes 2 minutes sometimes to get a match, but yet old MM that factored in multiple things could consistently give you a game in 30 seconds or less, and according to Pix there are more people playing now than back in 2016. Personally, I dont buy any of what they say when it comes to the MM. Its stacked against you to force a certain win stat plain and simple. This is the main reason many elite clan players will only play in squad and never solo. They know with over 70% win stats from squading, they would get totally beat down with no team to help them if they went solo. Many of them wont allow there egos to get crushed like that so its squad only or they dont play. It's not just league points. I wish it was. I'm also Gold1 in my smurf account. 4slot 7/7.5. My first match of the day is usually 80% of the time in Gold tier. Then I score near the top, and next game is Diamond 3. Then if I do good, next game is D1 where I can get 1 Expert in there. Usually get a smack down, and it's back to low Gold game where I get more Gold3 than before and even a Silver or 2 in there. And then the cycle repeats. I'm stuck in Gold1, so my league points has been very consistent last few days. About 50 points from Diamond. My avg dmg is kinda too high for Gold1 player, and win is hovering just north of 50%. Not sure how putting me in D1 game with Expert w hanger up to 10/11 is good idea. Little me got 4 slotter, 7/7.5. Half of D3 is tanker league now. Either get legit 5 slot 8/8 or 4 slot 8/9. Or rejects who can't hack it in Expert with 5slot 9/10. Gold is interesting because you have legit Gold players who can bust out 800K any game w their lvl 6 or 7 Thunders. So my avg dmg is high, but I may not score top so very little points gained. So I have to balance aggression in Gold with Diamond games where there are tankers who can blow me out of the water. |
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Post by WilsonK on Sept 25, 2017 22:47:25 GMT -5
How can victories % and other statistics drop from 66% to 38% in 4-5 games? Yes, I lost couple of battles, but if it is 50 games average, then it's not mathematically possible. Or there's some other math in use in War Robots? Theoretically impossible, if not it really is just the statistics algorithm getting screwed up. Anyhoos, why be bothered with statistics? Just saying  |
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Post by debian on Sept 26, 2017 7:21:24 GMT -5
Yap ... i can confirm that ... it happened to me about few hours ago ... sudnely my "3 MAIN STATS" decresed arround 60%
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Post by tristan on Sept 26, 2017 9:45:14 GMT -5
How can victories % and other statistics drop from 66% to 38% in 4-5 games? Yes, I lost couple of battles, but if it is 50 games average, then it's not mathematically possible. Or there's some other math in use in War Robots? Theoretically impossible, if not it really is just the statistics algorithm getting screwed up. Anyhoos, why be bothered with statistics? Just saying Yeah, you're right - doesn't really matter too much... Of course, number of invites is much lower with poor stats  |
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Post by debian on Sept 26, 2017 16:19:20 GMT -5
average from last 50 batles stats got a kind of reset ... . are just the 3 statistics ( nº bot killed average + damage average + victory average)... not a big deal. After few batles the stats will get real again. But i confess ... its annoying .
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Post by GuitarGuy on Sept 26, 2017 16:55:29 GMT -5
I notice "cycles" the game puts me though, I will get a couple of days of more wins than losses, followed by a couple of days of getting totally beat down. Pix says they ONLY match off league points. All the data ive collected suggests win percent and how much average damage you do is factored in as well. I have a goof off account that just turned level 30 and has bots and weps at level 7 average. I am gold league 1 with 2159 league points but with a 450k ave damage. I get higher than most I think in damage for my weapons and past 6 games I have yet to see a gold league player on either side. Its all Diamond. This account is rarely played and holds less than 30 cups on average. If it was true its only based on league score there in no way I should see all diamond pilots most every game. In fact, there should be more gold league players out there than diamond. Funny. they say its only one thing that the MM runs on, sure... thats why it takes 2 minutes sometimes to get a match, but yet old MM that factored in multiple things could consistently give you a game in 30 seconds or less, and according to Pix there are more people playing now than back in 2016. Personally, I dont buy any of what they say when it comes to the MM. Its stacked against you to force a certain win stat plain and simple. This is the main reason many elite clan players will only play in squad and never solo. They know with over 70% win stats from squading, they would get totally beat down with no team to help them if they went solo. Many of them wont allow there egos to get crushed like that so its squad only or they dont play. It's not just league points. I wish it was. I'm also Gold1 in my smurf account. 4slot 7/7.5. My first match of the day is usually 80% of the time in Gold tier. Then I score near the top, and next game is Diamond 3. Then if I do good, next game is D1 where I can get 1 Expert in there. Usually get a smack down, and it's back to low Gold game where I get more Gold3 than before and even a Silver or 2 in there. And then the cycle repeats. I'm stuck in Gold1, so my league points has been very consistent last few days. About 50 points from Diamond. My avg dmg is kinda too high for Gold1 player, and win is hovering just north of 50%. Not sure how putting me in D1 game with Expert w hanger up to 10/11 is good idea. Little me got 4 slotter, 7/7.5. Half of D3 is tanker league now. Either get legit 5 slot 8/8 or 4 slot 8/9. Or rejects who can't hack it in Expert with 5slot 9/10. Gold is interesting because you have legit Gold players who can bust out 800K any game w their lvl 6 or 7 Thunders. So my avg dmg is high, but I may not score top so very little points gained. So I have to balance aggression in Gold with Diamond games where there are tankers who can blow me out of the water. Yup. Pixonic refuses to be honest about the MM and insists its all League points and nothing else. My wife has a master degree in decision sciences and works for UPS corporate as Director of Global Sales Compilation for the whole planet. She has no interest in War Robots but I explained to her the basics of it and she said she would crunch some numbers from data off matches for me and see if she could show how it really works. Even in our brief conversation about it she said theres no way there getting accurate matches if thats all they use. Again, this kind of math is over my head ( I sell guitars and make records) but its totally her wheel house. It will be interesting what she comes up with. |
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Post by WilsonK on Sept 26, 2017 22:13:20 GMT -5
Theoretically impossible, if not it really is just the statistics algorithm getting screwed up. Anyhoos, why be bothered with statistics? Just saying Yeah, you're right - doesn't really matter too much... Of course, number of invites is much lower with poor stats Hahaha!! Oh well. "Number of invites" shouldn't be the reason that you're gonna enjoy the game though! |
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Post by zed252000 on Sept 27, 2017 2:35:06 GMT -5
Are the game modes related to the difference in Average Damage percentages?? Are you playing more for Domination, Or Beacon Rush??
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