Superb (and hilarious) new player guidance
Jan 12, 2017 13:31:29 GMT -5
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Post by Dredd77 on Jan 12, 2017 13:31:29 GMT -5
Found this on the Walking War Robots Reddit and had to share. Author is Dimanovic.
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Regarding beacons, I would rather a teammate who grabs beacons and barely does any damage (e.g., Cossack) than someone who thinks they're doing damage (and almost never really are) and is definitely not grabbing any beacons (e.g., Natasha).
As a general guide through the player levels:
Levels 1 to 4: Cossack > Destrier. Focus on beacons. Beacons win the game far more often than killing the other team's entire lineup.
Level 5: Schutze with ECC Thunder is the best Ag(Silver) bot available.
ECC Thunder says it has a range of 500. Don't believe it. It is barely scratching the paint at that range. Use obstacles for protection and try to get up close, under 250, before you even start shooting your Thunder. The closer, the better.
Level 8: BOA with ECC Thunder is the best Ag bot. For the Medium slot put anything for now. The Thunder will do all the work. BOA is an amazingly effective and cheap bot. It has some of the highest HP, is surprisingly fast, and the Heavy/Medium weapon slot combination is nothing to laugh at. You can hold your own at the highest levels of competition with maxed out BOAs.
Level 10: Put S-25 Tulumbas on your BOA's medium slot.
Save Gold for additional room in your hangar. There is no weapon or bot that will give as much of a boost as having more room in your hangar. Once you get your 4th slot an argument could be made for getting a Gepard to speed up how often you come in #1 with the most beacons (for max gold per match). But definitely get 4 slots before spending gold on anything else.
Level 20: Start switching those Tulumbas out for E-SG Tarans.
Long-term you'll eventually want to try different bots and weapons, but really the BOA is enough to keep you competitive. Eventually switch out the E-SG Tarans for R40M Orkans.
To save you resources here's some bots and weapons that are pretty much complete garbage. I'm sure somebody will disagree but they're wrong
GARBAGE WEAPONS
Light
The only worthwhile Light weapons cost Au and WP. Ag Light weapons all stink. So as quickly as possible get bots that don't use Light slots until much later when you can afford Au and WP weapons.
AC Molot- Punisher is better but even those stink.
AT Spiral- Someone will come to the defense of Spirals. I almost never seen anyone rank #1 for damage on any tier who was using Spirals.
GAU Punisher- Somewhat effective at low tiers on a G.I. Patton, but a Schutze or BOA with a Thunder is way better than a Patton with Punishers.
GEKKO XX- Fun and kinda cool to purposely mix the colors into a rainbow, but garbage.
Écu- If you want armor just get a bot with better HP. Don't waste a weapon slot. The only exception might be a Patton with burst weapons like Pins; 3 pins and a shield for protection to they recharge.
CRV Pin- Not entire "garbage," but Pinatas are way better.
SM NORICUM- GARBAGE, GARBAGE, GARBAGE. This weapon is more annoying to your own teammates than to the enemy.
Medium
AC Molot T, GAU Punisher T, Écu- Ditto their Light counterparts above.
SMS Hydra- Hydras are perhaps debatable. I've never seen someone rank high using Hydras.
Heavy
Ancile- Use a stronger bot if you want HP.
KwK 448mm- Sniping sucks. ETC Kang-Dae is better anyway.
ETC Kang-Dae- Sniping sucks. E-WW Trebuchet is better anyway.
Zeus- Fun and annoying to the enemy. I was reluctant to include this on the list. But again, I've never seen anyone get the top Total Damage spots using these.
Zenit- see SM Noricum
E-WW Trebuchet- What part of "Sniping sucks" do you not understand?! HRS Trident is better anyway.
HRS Trident- Sniping sucks! But alright then, if you're absolutely hellbent on doing it this is the way to go. And a Fury with three of these almost redeems snipers. Almost.
Yup, you read that list right: Every Heavy weapon is junk compared to the ECC Thunder!
GARBAGE BOTS
Light
Destrier- I wish they made these little guys viable, but what do ya expect of the starter bot?
At higher tiers Light bots tend to get eaten up quickly. But at lower tiers they're the way to go. And even at high tiers they all can have the place (Except Cossacks. Cossacks will get torn apart FAST at higher tiers).
Medium
Vityaz, Gl. Patton, Golem- It's not so much that these are "garbage" but that the other options are all such great bots that it ends up making these three look bad by comparison.
Heavy
Leo- Never seen a Leo rank high on damage.
Natasha- It's possible my impression of the Natasha is tainted by all the useless snipers using these. On low-mid tiers a Natasha with two Thunders is a terrifying sight and I keep my distance. But that's just it; Natashas are so incredibly slow all you have to do is keep your distance, pick off their teammates and grab beacons while the Natasha drags along not really contributing anything to its team.
tl;dr? By Currency:
Ag(Silver) weapons are pretty much all garbage except the ECC Thunder, and Ag bots are mostly garbage except Cossack, Schutze, BOA, and Griffins.
Au(Gold) weapons and bots are worthwhile except GEKKOS.
WP weapons and bots are worthwhile except maybe Hydras (Taran is better) and Trebuchets (Tridents are better... But seriously, just don't snipe).
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Regarding beacons, I would rather a teammate who grabs beacons and barely does any damage (e.g., Cossack) than someone who thinks they're doing damage (and almost never really are) and is definitely not grabbing any beacons (e.g., Natasha).
As a general guide through the player levels:
Levels 1 to 4: Cossack > Destrier. Focus on beacons. Beacons win the game far more often than killing the other team's entire lineup.
Level 5: Schutze with ECC Thunder is the best Ag(Silver) bot available.
ECC Thunder says it has a range of 500. Don't believe it. It is barely scratching the paint at that range. Use obstacles for protection and try to get up close, under 250, before you even start shooting your Thunder. The closer, the better.
Level 8: BOA with ECC Thunder is the best Ag bot. For the Medium slot put anything for now. The Thunder will do all the work. BOA is an amazingly effective and cheap bot. It has some of the highest HP, is surprisingly fast, and the Heavy/Medium weapon slot combination is nothing to laugh at. You can hold your own at the highest levels of competition with maxed out BOAs.
Level 10: Put S-25 Tulumbas on your BOA's medium slot.
Save Gold for additional room in your hangar. There is no weapon or bot that will give as much of a boost as having more room in your hangar. Once you get your 4th slot an argument could be made for getting a Gepard to speed up how often you come in #1 with the most beacons (for max gold per match). But definitely get 4 slots before spending gold on anything else.
Level 20: Start switching those Tulumbas out for E-SG Tarans.
Long-term you'll eventually want to try different bots and weapons, but really the BOA is enough to keep you competitive. Eventually switch out the E-SG Tarans for R40M Orkans.
To save you resources here's some bots and weapons that are pretty much complete garbage. I'm sure somebody will disagree but they're wrong
GARBAGE WEAPONS
Light
The only worthwhile Light weapons cost Au and WP. Ag Light weapons all stink. So as quickly as possible get bots that don't use Light slots until much later when you can afford Au and WP weapons.
AC Molot- Punisher is better but even those stink.
AT Spiral- Someone will come to the defense of Spirals. I almost never seen anyone rank #1 for damage on any tier who was using Spirals.
GAU Punisher- Somewhat effective at low tiers on a G.I. Patton, but a Schutze or BOA with a Thunder is way better than a Patton with Punishers.
GEKKO XX- Fun and kinda cool to purposely mix the colors into a rainbow, but garbage.
Écu- If you want armor just get a bot with better HP. Don't waste a weapon slot. The only exception might be a Patton with burst weapons like Pins; 3 pins and a shield for protection to they recharge.
CRV Pin- Not entire "garbage," but Pinatas are way better.
SM NORICUM- GARBAGE, GARBAGE, GARBAGE. This weapon is more annoying to your own teammates than to the enemy.
Medium
AC Molot T, GAU Punisher T, Écu- Ditto their Light counterparts above.
SMS Hydra- Hydras are perhaps debatable. I've never seen someone rank high using Hydras.
Heavy
Ancile- Use a stronger bot if you want HP.
KwK 448mm- Sniping sucks. ETC Kang-Dae is better anyway.
ETC Kang-Dae- Sniping sucks. E-WW Trebuchet is better anyway.
Zeus- Fun and annoying to the enemy. I was reluctant to include this on the list. But again, I've never seen anyone get the top Total Damage spots using these.
Zenit- see SM Noricum
E-WW Trebuchet- What part of "Sniping sucks" do you not understand?! HRS Trident is better anyway.
HRS Trident- Sniping sucks! But alright then, if you're absolutely hellbent on doing it this is the way to go. And a Fury with three of these almost redeems snipers. Almost.
Yup, you read that list right: Every Heavy weapon is junk compared to the ECC Thunder!
GARBAGE BOTS
Light
Destrier- I wish they made these little guys viable, but what do ya expect of the starter bot?
At higher tiers Light bots tend to get eaten up quickly. But at lower tiers they're the way to go. And even at high tiers they all can have the place (Except Cossacks. Cossacks will get torn apart FAST at higher tiers).
Medium
Vityaz, Gl. Patton, Golem- It's not so much that these are "garbage" but that the other options are all such great bots that it ends up making these three look bad by comparison.
Heavy
Leo- Never seen a Leo rank high on damage.
Natasha- It's possible my impression of the Natasha is tainted by all the useless snipers using these. On low-mid tiers a Natasha with two Thunders is a terrifying sight and I keep my distance. But that's just it; Natashas are so incredibly slow all you have to do is keep your distance, pick off their teammates and grab beacons while the Natasha drags along not really contributing anything to its team.
tl;dr? By Currency:
Ag(Silver) weapons are pretty much all garbage except the ECC Thunder, and Ag bots are mostly garbage except Cossack, Schutze, BOA, and Griffins.
Au(Gold) weapons and bots are worthwhile except GEKKOS.
WP weapons and bots are worthwhile except maybe Hydras (Taran is better) and Trebuchets (Tridents are better... But seriously, just don't snipe).
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