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Post by geribaldi on Aug 26, 2017 9:19:29 GMT -5
Hey,
Before i try to start a discussion let me honest with you.
Im a cheater and hackdeveloper.
If you say now "we dont give hackers a platform to speak" i will respect that.
If you say "ok tell us what you want say" i will you give a look about the gameengine, why cheaters do what they do in War Robots, how they do it and how you can see who cheat and who not.
Im not interested to make advertising or persuade anyone to join the "darkside". I will only make something clear, especially why i started to hack that game and how pixonic handle that. I am in regular contact with pixonic.
If im allowed: here you see whats possible to hack
Cheers, geri
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Post by geribaldi on Aug 26, 2017 9:22:38 GMT -5
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Post by Firebeard on Aug 26, 2017 11:17:03 GMT -5
I follow Hacker News. Go ahead, please. I'm listening ..
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Post by GuitarGuy on Aug 26, 2017 11:19:31 GMT -5
Im curious for sure. I am seeing more and more "how was that possible?!" stuff more and more as I play high level champs. Id like to know if its really "Mad Skills" or just plain out cheating..And for the record, I have no interest in learning how its done, I just want to know what to look out for when I see players I think are cheating.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Aug 26, 2017 11:22:31 GMT -5
If there were a way to play hacks in a test or other isolated mode, I'd be all for it. But I don't think that's the case, which means you're messing around now with live players. So in my mind, it's as bad as intentionally tanking/fading when the rest of the team is trying to win a game.
That being said, I do think what you're able to squeeze out of the engine is pretty cool. I though the high altitude view over Shenzhen was pretty sweet -- there's a whole rest of the earth beyond the city that you never see in normal play.
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Post by Mammoth Mk-2 on Aug 26, 2017 11:23:29 GMT -5
I'm interested to find out why, and how to tell who's hacking (besides the obvious, flying/erratic movements) but not how to do it.
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Post by Kanshou on Aug 26, 2017 11:28:53 GMT -5
Cool. Just don't use it against me. Specially like the giant bot hack.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 11:34:06 GMT -5
That's interesting
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Post by shagot on Aug 26, 2017 11:45:12 GMT -5
Sorry, I see this just like a cheap hack promo.
Titles in attached hack video lead (by googling) to game cheat website where you can buy hacks.
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Post by tonyfla on Aug 26, 2017 12:07:20 GMT -5
What exactly is it that you're trying to achieve? Because it sounds like you want to get on the forum and be, if not a complete douchebag, then at least douchebag-adjacent. Far as I'm concerned, a deliberate cheater ranks somewhere between a used car salesman and a weeny-waver.
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Post by SuperHero on Aug 26, 2017 12:12:08 GMT -5
What's a weeny-waver?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 12:12:16 GMT -5
What exactly is it that you're trying to achieve? Because it sounds like you want to get on the forum and be, if not a complete douchebag, then at least douchebag-adjacent. Far as I'm concerned, a deliberate cheater ranks somewhere between a used car salesman and a weeny-waver. O...K? Does there need to be a reason? As long as it isn't used to tank, I don't mint, but whatever
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Post by geribaldi on Aug 26, 2017 12:25:50 GMT -5
What exactly is it that you're trying to achieve? Because it sounds like you want to get on the forum and be, if not a complete douchebag, then at least douchebag-adjacent. Far as I'm concerned, a deliberate cheater ranks somewhere between a used car salesman and a weeny-waver. I have a conscience conflict. Do i release my hacks to public and kill the game or not. That depends from uberclever guys as you tonyfla -sarkasm off- You are able to conduct a constructive discussion without insulting and stupid questions or not?
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Post by tonyfla on Aug 26, 2017 12:31:56 GMT -5
Guy who runs around in public flashing his 「wee-wee」 to women. Or...waving his weiner at them.
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Post by geribaldi on Aug 26, 2017 12:38:36 GMT -5
Sorry, I see this just like a cheap hack promo. Titles in attached hack video lead (by googling) to game cheat website where you can buy hacks. As i said in first post, im a hackdeveloper. Thats enough to let half smart people google for "geribaldi War Robots hack" and they will find me shortly. Another point against your arguing. How many cheaters you see every day on servers where you 100% know that they use hacks? 0? You can look at our website. Try to get a hack. We never released it. Make it sense to advertise a unreleased hack what nobody can buy? I think not
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Post by tonyfla on Aug 26, 2017 12:44:17 GMT -5
What exactly is it that you're trying to achieve? Because it sounds like you want to get on the forum and be, if not a complete douchebag, then at least douchebag-adjacent. Far as I'm concerned, a deliberate cheater ranks somewhere between a used car salesman and a weeny-waver. I have a conscience conflict. Do i release my hacks to public and kill the game or not. That depends from uberclever guys as you tonyfla -sarkasm off- You are able to conduct a constructive discussion without insulting and stupid questions or not? Meh, I personally have no interest in 'constructive discussion' with trolls who take something good and screw it up for everybody else just for the lulz. Since you aren't close enough for me to beat about the head and shoulders like you deserve, I'll just have to settle for insults. But then I'm not the only guy on the forum. Maybe you'll get lucky, and the others will want to hear your troll BS. They might even be willing to help you with your little conscience problem. Of course, a person with a conscience wouldn't have tried to hack the game in the first place. Either way, I don't have the patience to deal with you so talking to me any further would be pointless. Edited to add: 「whiskey tango foxtrot」 is going on with the forum lately??? We've had noobs crying because a free game isn't free enough, guys attacking a poster because his English isn't good enough for them, mods and others performing back-breaking mental gymnastics to defend the swastika, of all things (please don't even get started on that BS again), religious guys wanting to censor the forum over their personal beliefs, and now this jackhole making sideways threats to kill the game. Would it be just A-firetrucking-OK with you guys if we got back to lame jokes and robots blowing ?poo-poo? up?
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Post by krebby on Aug 26, 2017 12:51:53 GMT -5
I appreciate your honesty, and would ask you to take a moment and consider what you're trying to achieve here.
Hacking and cheating in a single-player game doesn't affect anyone except the cheater; hacking and cheating in an exclusively multiplayer game affects everyone playing. More importantly, a cheater relies on everyone else playing the game honestly in order to get his or her advantage. So a cheater needs the majority of players to be honest.
Honest players, on the other hand, do not need cheaters in order to enjoy the game. But cheaters drive away honest players from the game. After all, what's the point of playing if you encounter cheaters using hacks to give themselves absurd advantages? And as more and more honest players depart, it can create a vicious cycle that ruins the game for everyone (including the cheaters) eventually.
You say you're in contact with Pixonic. Good! I hope you're able to help Pixonic identify and protect the game from exploits like the ones you developed. If you do that then you're helping the game thrive and I applaud your efforts.
If, on the other hand, you're expoiting those hacks in order to cheat; If you're offering those hacks to others so they, too, can cheat; then I think your actions are harmful to the game you seem to enjoy enough to spend time developing hacks.
You seem to have technical skills. You seem to have enough integrity to explain your actions honestly. Combining those two aspects together could certainly help the game you enjoy to thrive by working with Pixonic to identify and disable exploits. Who knows? Pixonic seems very open to the community, and it is fairly common for game companies to hire people from its gaming community. I think helping create a game like war robots would be much more satisfying than selling a hack to a few unethical people who want unearned rewards.
EDIT: Changed a sentence for clarity.
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Post by bronzeknee on Aug 26, 2017 13:14:55 GMT -5
I don't think we should give hackers a platform to speak. They aren't worthy of respect; they want to piggy-back off the success of others by trying to ruin them. The fact he is "threatening" to release his hacks if we don't have an honest discussion is ridiculous and reveals he has no conscience conflict. You don't threaten people if you have conscience, you don't spend your time (read: money) on something if you have a conflicted conscience. You settle any conflicts you have with something before you invest a piece of your life in it.
And this is all just a thinly veiled advertisement for his hacks anyway, and he will release them and blame people like me for calling him what he is. Everyone knows you don't negotiate with terrorists, you let them do what they do, then you hunt them down, kill them, and throw them in the ocean, ala Osama Bin Laden.
Get this rubbish off the forum, we don't need be an accessory to tools like this guy. He can't ruin War Robots, he is just a loser clamoring for attention. And maybe he does get his 15 minutes of fame, and then he'll have and be nothing, because a hack developer is a nothing. It does nothing for anyone, and when he realizes that anyone includes himself, maybe he will grow up.
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Post by inspirace on Aug 26, 2017 13:23:59 GMT -5
Hey, Before i try to start a discussion let me honest with you. Im a cheater and hackdeveloper. If you say now "we dont give hackers a platform to speak" i will respect that. If you say "ok tell us what you want say" i will you give a look about the gameengine, why cheaters do what they do in War Robots, how they do it and how you can see who cheat and who not. Im not interested to make advertising or persuade anyone to join the "darkside". I will only make something clear, especially why i started to hack that game and how pixonic handle that. I am in regular contact with pixonic. If im allowed: here you see whats possible to hack Cheers, geri can you hackers do one of these? then I am willing to listen: (1) fix the MM, (2) reduce lags, (3) reduce splash dmg of rockets based on distances from the detonation center, (4) let Griffin and Rog jump in gradients, (5) show dmg, beacon capped/liberated, and time spent on the battlefield for each robot, after each battle, as a part of the battle report, (6) improve the hanger and weapon storage UI, let's begin with these,
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Post by @pricker on Aug 26, 2017 13:39:25 GMT -5
I suggest for everyone to stay away using hacks with your main account, sooner or later you get banned and lose everything
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Post by Electronetic on Aug 26, 2017 14:01:16 GMT -5
I found it interesting how one of the hacks basically pushes all the enemies in the air so that they can't move. How does your devices' processor not melt with all these things happening?
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Aug 26, 2017 14:40:34 GMT -5
Hey, Before i try to start a discussion let me honest with you. Im a cheater and hackdeveloper. If you say now "we dont give hackers a platform to speak" i will respect that. If you say "ok tell us what you want say" i will you give a look about the gameengine, why cheaters do what they do in War Robots, how they do it and how you can see who cheat and who not. Im not interested to make advertising or persuade anyone to join the "darkside". I will only make something clear, especially why i started to hack that game and how pixonic handle that. I am in regular contact with pixonic. If im allowed: here you see whats possible to hack Cheers, geri can you hackers do one of these? then I am willing to listen: (1) fix the MM, (2) reduce lags, (3) reduce splash dmg of rockets based on distances from the detonation center, (4) let Griffin and Rog jump in gradients, (5) show dmg, beacon capped/liberated, and time spent on the battlefield for each robot, after each battle, as a part of the battle report, (6) improve the hanger and weapon storage UI, let's begin with these, Now those would be some useful hacks I would support! I am against anything that takes away from fair competition! If you are in talks with Pix, that is a good thing! I am not afraid of change, those that are get left behind! SoCal
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Post by Dredd77 on Aug 26, 2017 14:53:06 GMT -5
I'm going to lock this thread. geribaldi, regardless of what one might think of what you do as a hobby, I at least note that you tested the waters rather than blasting it all over the forum, so thanks for that. However, this topic is against this forum's Code of Conduct, and therefore prohibited. There's another War Robots players forum out there with a higher discourse tolerance you might try, or the Facebook Group. Alternately, feel free to DM me to see if there's opportunity for a guest piece on MECH*SPECTRUM.
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Post by Dredd77 on Aug 26, 2017 14:54:32 GMT -5
Edited to add: 「whiskey tango foxtrot」 is going on with the forum lately??? We've had noobs crying because a free game isn't free enough, guys attacking a poster because his English isn't good enough for them, mods and others performing back-breaking mental gymnastics to defend the swastika, of all things (please don't even get started on that BS again), religious guys wanting to censor the forum over their personal beliefs, and now this jackhole making sideways threats to kill the game. Would it be just A-firetrucking-OK with you guys if we got back to lame jokes and robots blowing ?poo-poo? up? Take a few days off, and look what happens... Looks like I missed a few things. Mods defending swastikas?
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