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Post by Fredrick on Aug 2, 2017 10:42:25 GMT -5
Vote 3 times for your favorite setups.
I thought to myself, instead of making new bots, try making existing bots better with existing special features. It wouldn't be that hard to implement. I do not see these bots often if at all in Diamond 1 and above. I don't think all bots should be top tier bots, but these guys have such a short life span. These upgrades would be in effort to keep them viable for a little longer. This poll is just for light bots. Check out the poll for Medium bots here: war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/thread/12335/special-abilities-medium-bots
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Post by Fredrick on Aug 2, 2017 10:48:30 GMT -5
 Just because?...
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Post by mijapi300 on Aug 2, 2017 10:54:14 GMT -5
Schutze with rush and Ancile. Just because it would be fun to rush up on someone with that thunder. Cossack with Ancile. Would just be extra annoying, but still vulnerable to what usually ends up killing it (plasma). Destrier (other). Blow up! I want to run my Destrier up inside an Ancilot bubble and then blow the m fer up! |
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Post by Fredrick on Aug 2, 2017 11:00:06 GMT -5
Schutze with rush and Ancile. Just because it would be fun to rush up on someone with that thunder. Cossack with Ancile. Would just be extra annoying, but still vulnerable to what usually ends up killing it (plasma). Destrier (other). Blow up! I want to run my Destrier up inside an Ancilot bubble and then blow the m fer up! Schutze with rush + ancile would be pretty sweet! It is already a fast little dude - Wiki says it tops out at 55 - so it's rush would be crazy fast and more than make up for it's lack of firepower! Destrier lol - Like the Soviet Anti tank dogs! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 11:00:54 GMT -5
How about Lancelot with no Ancile and no Rush?
Or Griffin with a 'Hop' instead of a Jump?
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Post by Fredrick on Aug 2, 2017 11:03:49 GMT -5
Fredrick you have to be inclusive in a poll. There must always be two sides. Right now I can pull out a max Vityaz, Golem and Patton slap some max weapons on them and use them in Masters. I like em' the way they are. I guess the reason for the poll was that I don't see them much - I can't remember the last time I saw Vityaz. I see golem rarely and patton is a bit limited in scope (mainly, aphids or gekkos). I guess you could have voted (Other) three times  |
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Post by Fredrick on Aug 2, 2017 11:05:54 GMT -5
How about Lancelot with no Ancile and no Rush? Or Griffin with a 'Hop' instead of a Jump? Your comments always brighten my day! |
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Aug 2, 2017 11:09:22 GMT -5
Not every Mek needs to be a Special Forces one.
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Post by Jame-thon on Aug 2, 2017 11:12:28 GMT -5
None of the above. I want a Destrier with a doomsday button. Just as (3) lancelots circle and trap the lone fawn, I mean Destrier, it unleashes it's secret move...A circle radius of 12 feet all around him start to glow on the ground, and a heavenly beam comes from the clouds and instantaneously the enemies all get destroyed. Cost of using this special ability is must have (4) bots in your hanger and all of them get destroyed leaving you with just your destrier left. lol.   (warcraft daydream moment there). A guy can dream right? |
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Post by zerosoul on Aug 2, 2017 11:16:04 GMT -5
Gepard with Rush should be only choice and only because it is a gold bot.
Again- just NO to Ancile on any of these bots
Most of these are beginner bots for a reason
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Post by mijapi300 on Aug 2, 2017 11:18:05 GMT -5
None of the above. I want a Destrier with a doomsday button. Just as (3) lancelots circle and trap the lone fawn, I mean Destrier, it unleashes it's secret move...A circle radius of 12 feet all around him start to glow on the ground, and a heavenly beam comes from the clouds and instantaneously the enemies all get destroyed. Cost of using this special ability is must have (4) bots in your hanger and all of them get destroyed leaving you with just your destrier left. lol. (warcraft daydream moment there). A guy can dream right? You took my idea a step further. |
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Post by oninotaki on Aug 2, 2017 11:46:55 GMT -5
I have been thinking about this a lot myself. I don't think light robots need 2 abilities, but agree they need a boost. I would like to see the following:
Gepard: Rush (it is named after cheetahs after all)
Schultz: max 144k hp (41k less than Boa which is how much less the Boa has than the Leo) I really like the idea of their being a light, medium, and heavy bot who's special ability is just a ton of hp.
Cossack: built in ancile. A mobile ancile could be really fun.
Destrier: Lancelot style shield just enough to teach new players about shields.
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Post by Fredrick on Aug 2, 2017 11:51:12 GMT -5
I have been thinking about this a lot myself. I don't think light robots need 2 abilities, but agree they need a boost. I would like to see the following: Gepard: Rush (it is named after cheetahs after all) Schultz: max 144k hp (41k less than Boa which is how much less the Boa has than the Leo) I really like the idea of their being a light, medium, and heavy bot who's special ability is just a ton of hp. Cossack: built in ancile. A mobile ancile could be really fun. Destrier: Lancelot style shield just enough to teach new players about shields. Funny you mention shields - I almost added that as an option. I wanted abilities that could be added without changing the look of any of the bots. Once we get into physical shields - things get really interesting! |
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Post by cheap on Aug 2, 2017 11:57:22 GMT -5
i say a shutze with rush and a ability called M.O.T( moment of glory) where you are invulnerable for 10sec and a dmg bonus of 30%, but at the cost of 2/3 of your hp of when you clicked it.
one can only dream (sigh)..
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Post by Fredrick on Aug 2, 2017 12:12:29 GMT -5
i say a shutze with rush and a ability called M.O.T( moment of glory) where you are invulnerable for 10sec and a dmg bonus of 30%, but at the cost of 2/3 of your hp of when you clicked it. one can only dream (sigh).. I like thinking outside of the box! |
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Post by Koalabear on Aug 2, 2017 13:18:54 GMT -5
Why put rush on a Gepard? It's already darned fast. Better to give it Dash instead. Aphid Gepards are already annoying. Imagine one with Dash!
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Post by Fredrick on Aug 2, 2017 13:35:14 GMT -5
Why put rush on a Gepard? It's already darned fast. Better to give it Dash instead. Aphid Gepards are already annoying. Imagine one with Dash! someone would complain if it was left out... |
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Post by Prowler on Aug 2, 2017 13:40:55 GMT -5
Yes bring back the ostrich army ! Rush and shield
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Post by tonyfla on Aug 2, 2017 14:47:19 GMT -5
Not every Mek needs to be a Special Forces one. Leg soldiers in the Army used to call them Special Feces. But always quietly and never to their faces. ? To you guys who say these bots do not belong in upper tiers, why is that? Personally, I'd love to see every bot viable all the way through the game when fully leveled. But I'm guessing there's something that I'm missing. Clue me in? Oh, and jumping Gepard with Ancile. Hell yeah! |
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Post by Fredrick on Aug 2, 2017 15:13:08 GMT -5
Not every Mek needs to be a Special Forces one. ...To you guys who say these bots do not belong in upper tiers, why is that? Personally, I'd love to see every bot viable all the way through the game when fully leveled. But I'm guessing there's something that I'm missing. Clue me in?... this |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 16:11:54 GMT -5
Not every Mek needs to be a Special Forces one. Leg soldiers in the Army used to call them Special Feces. But always quietly and never to their faces. ? To you guys who say these bots do not belong in upper tiers, why is that? Personally, I'd love to see every bot viable all the way through the game when fully leveled. But I'm guessing there's something that I'm missing. Clue me in? Oh, and jumping Gepard with Ancile. Hell yeah! Because it is designed to be weak, and have limited firepower/health to limit their effectiveness above lower leagues, where pilots are still learning how to grasp the controls of the game. What is the point of buying an Lancelot with 5000 gold, when you can buy a destrier with 50k ag? |
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Post by oninotaki on Aug 2, 2017 21:13:10 GMT -5
Leg soldiers in the Army used to call them Special Feces. But always quietly and never to their faces. ? To you guys who say these bots do not belong in upper tiers, why is that? Personally, I'd love to see every bot viable all the way through the game when fully leveled. But I'm guessing there's something that I'm missing. Clue me in? Oh, and jumping Gepard with Ancile. Hell yeah! Because it is designed to be weak, and have limited firepower/health to limit their effectiveness above lower leagues, where pilots are still learning how to grasp the controls of the game. What is the point of buying an Lancelot with 5000 gold, when you can buy a destrier with 50k ag? As someone who has happily spent a few hundred on this game I would buy special bots even if silver bots had similar powers. I bought the rogatka even though the griffon is a silver bot, and I would do the same for other bots. I also understand game design enough to know that as a game goes on the stuff available at the beginning of the game was designed without knowing what abilities would come later. Because of this I am very pro a game getting a rebalance every couple of years where all the things in the game are rebalanced with what is in the game at that point not just what was in the game in the beginning. Currently it seems like all silver bots were designed with only the ecu and ancile shield in the game. The spider bots, and carnage are designed to not greatly unbalance that, and because of that 2 of the 3 bots are a bit lacking. The Brit bots were then designed with the knowledge the developers gained from having robots with built in shields. The WW bots are a bit lacking because no robots in the game has those abilities so the developers had to be conservative with them. After all of this it seems like the developers have decided the game's balance is a bit more robots then they thought and now we have the dash bots and the fancy stealth griffon coming. With all of these changes that have been made to the game I would like to see the silver bots, gepard, fury, WP bots, and WW bots rebalanced after the 4 bots in the pipe line have been released. Jump: Cossack, Vityaz, griffon Lancelot style shield: Destrier, Golem, Natasha exceptional HP: Schutze, Boa, Leo rush: gepard, carnage, rhino brit bots: Garett, Galahad, Lancelot (would like its shield to be like the other two, remove rush, increase base speed) spider bots: Fujin, Rajin, and a new light bot w/ancile Increase base speed, fast & immobile style stealth bots: stalker, and new medium and heavy bots w/stealth WW bots: Jesse, doc, butch with a little tweak of some kind Dash bots: mk1,2, & 3. Stealth jump: new light bot, rogatka, heavy bot in pipe line That just leaves the Fury and Patton. I am not sure what to do with them. Maybe enhanced sensors that list the bot type and level under the pilots name so you can tell what bots are behind cover and not just that there is a bot behind cover. For symmetry and a light bot with that ability too. |
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Post by WilsonK on Aug 2, 2017 21:22:01 GMT -5
Schutze with rush and Ancile. Just because it would be fun to rush up on someone with that thunder. Cossack with Ancile. Would just be extra annoying, but still vulnerable to what usually ends up killing it (plasma). Destrier (other). Blow up! I want to run my Destrier up inside an Ancilot bubble and then blow the m fer up! Cossack with Ancile? No problem! *All plasma units target that beer keg delivery bot! We need that keg of beer!*  |
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Post by oakwhelie on Aug 2, 2017 21:37:16 GMT -5
Because it is designed to be weak, and have limited firepower/health to limit their effectiveness above lower leagues, where pilots are still learning how to grasp the controls of the game. What is the point of buying an Lancelot with 5000 gold, when you can buy a destrier with 50k ag? As someone who has happily spent a few hundred on this game I would buy special bots even if silver bots had similar powers. I bought the rogatka even though the griffon is a silver bot, and I would do the same for other bots. I also understand game design enough to know that as a game goes on the stuff available at the beginning of the game was designed without knowing what abilities would come later. Because of this I am very pro a game getting a rebalance every couple of years where all the things in the game are rebalanced with what is in the game at that point not just what was in the game in the beginning. Currently it seems like all silver bots were designed with only the ecu and ancile shield in the game. The spider bots, and carnage are designed to not greatly unbalance that, and because of that 2 of the 3 bots are a bit lacking. The Brit bots were then designed with the knowledge the developers gained from having robots with built in shields. The WW bots are a bit lacking because no robots in the game has those abilities so the developers had to be conservative with them. After all of this it seems like the developers have decided the game's balance is a bit more robots then they thought and now we have the dash bots and the fancy stealth griffon coming. With all of these changes that have been made to the game I would like to see the silver bots, gepard, fury, WP bots, and WW bots rebalanced after the 4 bots in the pipe line have been released. Jump: Cossack, Vityaz, griffon Lancelot style shield: Destrier, Golem, Natasha exceptional HP: Schutze, Boa, Leo rush: gepard, carnage, rhino brit bots: Garett, Galahad, Lancelot (would like its shield to be like the other two, remove rush, increase base speed) spider bots: Fujin, Rajin, and a new light bot w/ancile Increase base speed, fast & immobile style stealth bots: stalker, and new medium and heavy bots w/stealth WW bots: Jesse, doc, butch with a little tweak of some kind Dash bots: mk1,2, & 3. Stealth jump: new light bot, rogatka, heavy bot in pipe line That just leaves the Fury and Patton. I am not sure what to do with them. Maybe enhanced sensors that list the bot type and level under the pilots name so you can tell what bots are behind cover and not just that there is a bot behind cover. For symmetry and a light bot with that ability too. thats what they're doing in test server. All wsp bot except stalker got buff. Silver medium bot got buff as well, and natasha and fury. Not exactly the way you describe it tho |
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Post by oninotaki on Aug 2, 2017 21:53:09 GMT -5
As someone who has happily spent a few hundred on this game I would buy special bots even if silver bots had similar powers. I bought the rogatka even though the griffon is a silver bot, and I would do the same for other bots. I also understand game design enough to know that as a game goes on the stuff available at the beginning of the game was designed without knowing what abilities would come later. Because of this I am very pro a game getting a rebalance every couple of years where all the things in the game are rebalanced with what is in the game at that point not just what was in the game in the beginning. Currently it seems like all silver bots were designed with only the ecu and ancile shield in the game. The spider bots, and carnage are designed to not greatly unbalance that, and because of that 2 of the 3 bots are a bit lacking. The Brit bots were then designed with the knowledge the developers gained from having robots with built in shields. The WW bots are a bit lacking because no robots in the game has those abilities so the developers had to be conservative with them. After all of this it seems like the developers have decided the game's balance is a bit more robots then they thought and now we have the dash bots and the fancy stealth griffon coming. With all of these changes that have been made to the game I would like to see the silver bots, gepard, fury, WP bots, and WW bots rebalanced after the 4 bots in the pipe line have been released. Jump: Cossack, Vityaz, griffon Lancelot style shield: Destrier, Golem, Natasha exceptional HP: Schutze, Boa, Leo rush: gepard, carnage, rhino brit bots: Garett, Galahad, Lancelot (would like its shield to be like the other two, remove rush, increase base speed) spider bots: Fujin, Rajin, and a new light bot w/ancile Increase base speed, fast & immobile style stealth bots: stalker, and new medium and heavy bots w/stealth WW bots: Jesse, doc, butch with a little tweak of some kind Dash bots: mk1,2, & 3. Stealth jump: new light bot, rogatka, heavy bot in pipe line That just leaves the Fury and Patton. I am not sure what to do with them. Maybe enhanced sensors that list the bot type and level under the pilots name so you can tell what bots are behind cover and not just that there is a bot behind cover. For symmetry and a light bot with that ability too. thats what they're doing in test server. All wsp bot except stalker got buff. Silver medium bot got buff as well, and natasha and fury. Not exactly the way you describe it tho It is great to hear that they are thinking about this stuff! Do you know where can I find the details of those buffs? I don't play on test server at all, but like to stay informed lol |
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Post by Cjax on Aug 2, 2017 21:58:14 GMT -5
Only voted once, gepard other. Schutze, destrier and cossack don't need specials as they are just beginner bots everyone should learn on but aren't for top tier. However, Gepard is a gold bot. It's useless in the current meta but 1 thing could change that. Rush! For balance it doesn't need the ancile though.
Just think, for 10 seconds out of 30 that thing is the fastest bot in the game. Don't know if they could keep the same parameters for rush as with carnage or lance though. At +66% that would put it's speed at 96! Sure would be fun though. But in it's current form it's the last bot any experienced player would spend gold on.
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Post by oakwhelie on Aug 2, 2017 22:01:42 GMT -5
thats what they're doing in test server. All wsp bot except stalker got buff. Silver medium bot got buff as well, and natasha and fury. Not exactly the way you describe it tho It is great to hear that they are thinking about this stuff! Do you know where can I find the details of those buffs? I don't play on test server at all, but like to stay informed lol dunno, it was several weeks ago, they haven't list it again yet. But fro. Memory: Carnage: ancile regeneration 1% > 3% Ancile reappearing threshold 10% > 20% Rhino: Rush 50 > 60 Default speed 25 > 30 Raijin: +10% speed Fujin: +10% speed +10% ancile hp Boa: +10% hp Vityaz: +10% hp Golem: +10% hp Patton: +10% hp +speed (dont remember how much) Fury&natasha: +10% hp +10% speed Jesse: +10% hp Butch: +10% speed |
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Post by oakwhelie on Aug 2, 2017 22:03:33 GMT -5
Only voted once, gepard other. Schutze, destrier and cossack don't need specials as they are just beginner bots everyone should learn on but aren't for top tier. However, Gepard is a gold bot. It's useless in the current meta but 1 thing could change that. Rush! For balance it doesn't need the ancile though. Just think, for 10 seconds out of 30 that thing is the fastest bot in the game. Don't know if they could keep the same parameters for rush as with carnage or lance though. At +66% that would put it's speed at 96! Sure would be fun though. But in it's current form it's the last bot any experienced player would spend gold on. gonna zip around with that thing. Might actually spend gold on it even though there are other things i could spend gold on |
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Post by cheap on Aug 2, 2017 22:21:40 GMT -5
raijin definitely needs a speed boost. gep needs a chaff ability so its harder to hit. i would like that don't know about anyone else.
edit: or gep could get a mirage ability where 2 or 3 pop up and you gotta decide which to lock onto. but might not be possible might lag the game to much.
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Post by VivaLaResistance on Aug 2, 2017 23:38:40 GMT -5
Just had a conversation earlier today about a similar idea, same concept.
Rather then trying to come up with all these cool new weapons that just absolutely suck, why not just create light and medium versions of some heavy weapons, light and heavy of some mediums, medium and heavy of some lights?
It would create a whole TON of new and different setups which would bring a lot more variety into the game without a ton of development.
Why isn't there a light version of an Ancile?
Why isn't there a light or medium version of a thunder?
I dunno, maybe I'm missing something. Maybe I should start a thread on it?
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